 Welcome back. It's still the breakfast and plus TV Africa and time to look at what the papers this morning these papers have for us It's a Monday and to be expected a lot. We packed into the papers today, and we have joining us Public Affairs Analyst open up or in Kottariya. It's in Kottariya. Good morning to you. Thanks for joining us Fantastic fantastic, let's dive right in beginning with the leadership on Monday bold headline from the leadership this morning 2023 presidency Uncertainty over Jonathan's PDP membership with the following writers ex-president has not resigned from the party aid We're not aware of his resignation PDP and I'm not sure if he's still a member Says Suley Lamedo. Quite interesting debate on whether Goodluck Jonathan is a member of a PDP or not I'm missing Kottariya. Is Dr. Goodluck Jonathan still a member of the people's Democratic Party as far as you're concerned I don't know if he's still a member of the PDP or if he has defected to the 80s Because the time when the air was so filled with news of his life in depression to 80s and that is to allow the south-south That was the argument. The south-south Compute to Stenio that was truncated by the election of President Mahmadi Buhari Because you know like I think Stenio is a good look was an accidental President as a result of the demise of Yeratweb And so the south-south which was the constitutional requirement Which is the constitutional obligation No other person would have been as a president of Goodluck Jonathan Even that that was almost in prostitution which was called by a lot of President Goodluck Not unless he continued and then There was some left sort of crisis until the National Assembly Gentrally and minted that part of the constitution And so Goodluck emerged and they felt it took the place of the north And prostitution in his re-election beat it 20 to 30 Now Buhari left. They what they want to do is A lot of people also have the argument that if it's not a fact There is no such thing as not central, not east, not not west They don't believe in that When they say north they are talking about the north When they say south they are talking about what we call the southwest The south-south and the southeast That is the way they look at it So if Goodluck should come for another four years They need to go back to the north That is the thing That's why people were angry for Goodluck to return to office Because definitely he wasn't going to spend more than four years in office If it is not because that's consular permission maximum And for four years So that they can go back to the north For those who believe that they are politically smart They know for that That is the fact police because any other south-south now will do another eight years And they are in a hurry that the president should go back to the north So we don't know for now I'm giving the frequent basis of Goodluck, Jonathan To Asura Okay, you know a lot of people here have started with an interpretation All kinds of interpretations into that piece And they've seen Mr. President doing very comfortably With Goodluck taking over from him And this is also in tandem with the north end Somehow of presidentally in tandem with the north end calculation Where he's going to spend those four years and he's going to come back to us But I cannot categorically say it for now Even if you let me do I'm sorry So Mr. Senkotaria why do we have a sort to interrupt you sir But why do we have this this this speculation Bearing in mind the former president dr. Jonathan has not Maybe like obolusia go ambassador did atone his pdp membership card In public he has not made any public statements resigning from the party Everybody must not be an ambassador At first show, I mean Is that living net? It's either you say you've designed for politics I think that is what you don't need to start here in your time I mean that was super clear Well, I was at that and like I said the frequent basis to Asura You know Goodluck himself has not said anything And that also to a very large estes Try to strengthen that too much because he has never denied Not accepted And in a situation where you don't deny I mean there is this belief that if there was no ounce of hate in it You would have come out to say no I am not good to compare but you kept silent And so it is that well, let's say we are still negotiating. Let me see if I'm going to get if I'm promised the ticket by the president I will defect because if there is no he didn't deny it And that is what has Strengthen the belief that oh the negotiations are still on some say is that if he wants the president's 100 percent assurance That he's going to give him the ticket For him to defect. You know, they really have that approval I think so it is the frequent basis of the president the former president to Asura and the non-denier Of this part or rumor that he was going to defect that has made more persons believe That negotiations are ongoing and he's just waiting for Asura from the president Okay, interesting If gov. Nobike even gov. Nobike said he's good luck because at the first two cases he's not going to support it Which means a lot of people read many things on that that probably the governor coming from his I Have been this position would have gotten wind of good luck and possible Discussion to the apis so all these things are not to talk of the unnerving man Who doesn't have access to certain information would have to be from all the you know, it's just that that's why You know who believe that he might I put up one could tell you how do you perceive? We all know where you were in river state as I was we've had a You know frequent interaction, you know on on on radio Your own political history. Well, let me not go into your analysis here But um, you you have knowledge you have knowledge in in in politics. You have been an insider and your wealth of the the kickback or the the backlash, let me say Or the the rejection of the all progressives congress By those in the south south and southeast of nigeria in the 2015 elections And the massive overwhelming votes for dr. Goodluck jonathan In in those elections. We go to 2019. There was also massive rejection of the apc in the presidential vote Because uh, there was a massive rejection of the president the apc in the presidential vote while the pdp won The the the presidential vote in the south south and southeast If if if it turns out, you know, we don't know what will happen But if it turns out that's what sully lamido is saying is true And if it turns out that um, dr. Jonathan pops up on the ticket of the apc Do you suspect that southerners will Will change their approach towards the all progressives congress very quickly, please you know, you know, yes, you know the the situation we talked about The truth about this is that in 2015 A lot of us believe that Goodluck jonathan is wonderful even though Uh, his presidency Did not positively positively impact the south south that much. He had to admit that if i may turn Of the ban there, I would do more things south south. I followed that He said that he put that up there So, um It was like a brilliant support You know, he supported you to your brother. That was the support we get a goodluck jonathan in 2015 And that's why the whole south south because the son of one of us Rather the whole south south put that for goodluck jonathan He rejected the apc. It really had nothing to do with the fact It really had nothing to do with ideology Not not fact is not ideal. It has to do with the individual and that's why it's doubtable that I am one of those That confirmed it's a clean country That you vote for party that not for individual because in my day I would vote for individual In today goodluck jonathan the first of the eighties although who rejected goodluck jonathan who rejected uh Eighties in 2015 and 2018 will vote for goodluck jonathan from the south south. I can tell you that Of course, I'm not saying country should be hard to let to say My major is to vote because they'll say this is our hope to let us I'll call it the better assistant to win. The same thing we think it's hard has to do With the individual and where he comes from not necessarily the party No Okay, interesting analysis open up on the chair. Thank you very much for that. Let's um Let's stay with uh the leadership newspaper and uh, of course, there was a lot of uh, uh, Bruja permit my use of the word Last week when um, bola admettinable Went or departed to the uk First uh, some sources were telling the newspaper press that uh, he was going to see his doctor Some sources then his spokesman came out and said no He's going for some meetings political meetings and then some other source said oh, he's going to see his family Um, um, but but we we were told he'd be back after seven days and some nigerians, especially legosian said, aha Let's see if we can come back after seven days And then if he doesn't come back after seven days, we can begin to talk Tillable has returned into the country back to nigeria after seven days in the uk It was There was a rejection. It was rejected by his spokesman You know, he said he went for Okay Out of 365 days, we have a president Just maybe Maybe maximum of a hundred days or 50 days a night Is either out of medical trip or he's going on one conference that has no impact no possible impact on the nation I haven't said that my brother to answer your question Tillable was On medical trip and tillable is safe and no nigerians should go popular Maybe miss mr. Guthrie. I don't know we we don't have his medical records. Um, it to be fair for us to say he's sick Maybe we can we can we can say you feel you can say you feel he's not fit You know We all are aware that he was in the hospital or personalized for how long from union to the u.s If the president gives you that day, initially the denying it onto the president vice president all kinds of persons visited We're all aware of that. That's what said And now he's gonna get when you look at tillable tillable, you know tillable If I told somebody that they think the sickness is just one the first thing tillable and we'll see If we listen to the way he talks Tillable has been sick Tillable has a government given from tillable now. That's the truth So He's not fit that's what you say Okay, so you're saying I think we've taken away the words We've taken here and we're using sound feet I fact You know, you know, we've been having this conversation. It's been on and off You know even on on radio and um, we have to look for different words to describe these things like feet sound Even stout is a word that can be used in that I never knew before Okay, interesting interesting. Um, let's um Let's go. Let's go a family kerbs media coverage of aspirants visit to IBB this this seems a bit worrying. Um, you're aware, but Okay, at the top of the leadership newspaper family kerbs media coverage of aspirants visit to IBB aspirants being a plural there and you're aware of um The the godfathery row of godfatherly row that uh, IBB has been playing over the years And um as it was in the last election with this time too, it seems that everyone who goes there will get his endorsement You know, he's endorsed Osiba Joe. He's endorsed tillable. Um, he's endorsed Orges or color before now, but not really technically endorsed in Orges color But he keeps it seems to endorse anyone who goes there. Um, now we're hearing his family's curbing Media coverage of the visit of those aspirants. Do you think this is something worrying? Uh, I strongly believe, uh, you can imagine what I'm thinking The man is The man is no longer He's not he's he's okay But but let me just say, uh, I don't think he's, uh, Okay, okay, so you you're trying to say I can help you you try and say he's not young anymore It is not young anymore I don't want to talk about sanity It is not so No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. I think people will get the point It's not the Maradona of, of we used to know, or the Even genius we used to know. So let me just make it up that Okay I really believe the family have said one or two inconsistencies and so on And they're just trying to project the image of the man IBB Okay All right And a lot of people feel the same as having that class. I believe he can give that to him. He may have endorsed a lot of people, but he didn't secretly work for somebody. And he has his own privilege. I mean, he has the salams and so on. There are two ways of life. There are two ways of life. I don't have the whole reason. Yeah, what do you make of this whole, I mean, there's been talk over the years in Nigeria There are king-makers in the land. These are the people who, if you are going to be president, they determine who will be the next president. And IVB's name is always mentioned in that breath. Is this really the case? Is this really the case? IVB has a rich, but I think it's been, for now, overrated. For now, it's been overrated. IVB doesn't have that cloud that another IVB has. No more. I don't think IVB can influence outside of Nigeria's state government. I don't think IVB can influence even Nantan government. They are no respected. No doubt about that, because of the Nantan culture. No respect. I have to be respected. But I don't think it can really influence political decisions. I don't think so. I don't think so. Sincerely, I don't think so. I don't think it has that kind to influence political decisions. Oh, right. I watched the recent interview. You could just be out of cuts. You could just be out of cuts. The visit. And of course, for media please. Okay. I watched the recent interview on online media and put out with Ibrahim, but most of the Banguida, right there at the hilltop, you know, or rock top residents, at least former presidents like Obasanjo as well. They seem to like to stay in hilly or rocky environments. And let's not go into that. But he sounded really... I know you're right, Bill, in touch with us. Wish I did. You tell me. But let's not go there. Let's not go there. But he sounded really in control, really aware of national issues and really okay, despite his age. Yeah, but like you just said, you have just one person, one position and only one person occupying that position and you're just 20 person. What about people? What about other people? But in another way, they can also argue that if not we really did endorse for probably what he did, was to extoll their qualities, their petitions. I think the only person I think he actually endorsed was the vice president. I think the rest is just extolling their petitions. I don't know why he actually... Okay, all right. Actually you may endorse for the vice president. We'll have to cross check what he said to Tinibu. I may have to check what he said to Tinibu. Well, I don't even know what he said to Tinibu, but he said he was just a political excursion. Oh, okay. All right, let's leave it at that. He has so much money to clear out. Okay, we're not going too much of the sports per se, but there's one aspect of the Senegalese defeat of Egypt, Senegal in last night won their first... No, no, I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere. Trust me. Trust me. No, no, trust me. Well, you've not invited me to play golf with you, so, you know. But anyway, one of the noticeable aspects of this African Cup of Nations final, and I'm gonna get you here, Punebo, is the fact that Paul Bia was in the stadium. And when it was time for the cup to be handed over to the Senegalese captain, for him to take to his team so they could lift it up, the FIFA president and the Cup president told the Senegal captain to follow them to the stands, the presidential stand, where Paul Bia was seated. He didn't come down to hand the cup over to the Senegal captain. So they had to climb up the steps to the presidential stand, and then Paul Bia stood up and gingerly, he didn't even hold the cup, he just touched it as the FIFA president held it with the Cup president. What's your take on... But Cameroon has organized a successful competition with many beautiful stadiums being built. What's your take on the Paul Bia situation in the light of the Afghan that has just held and what we saw last night, like I've just said, described to you? Paul Bia is a high-to-power fan. I rather die in the middle of a game than falling. Paul Bia is a football fan. He's not shaking. He's not shaking. And then the officials are fighting away. That's why I get there for Bia to walk down. Most times, he's been assisted. It's helping to move. Paul Bia is sick. He's always, he's never expected him to walk down. I've already told him to walk up to the presidential to hand the cup over, for him to hand the cup over to Bia. Paul Bia is not well, he's not well. It has nothing to do with arrogance of power. No, no, no, not with that, not with that. He's not well. He's not like a piece. He told me. So, he didn't have to be assisted. He's sick, he's sick. Any distant honorable man would have just left office. But the man was dying of it. I pray he dies enough. But I pray he dies so too. I didn't see any gray hair on him. No, I rest. Yeah, the guy is dying. He's dying here. Or maybe he doesn't have gray hair. God created him to die with. You know, if the president is using a dye, he's going to shoot for that. But he will not be able to use the dye. But forget it. Forget it. It was the president of Vicarterio Aguilini. I don't forget. Don't forget that. But don't forget that a man at 60 could be as weak as a man who is 80. Who are you referring to? It's all the person. I don't know who you think. It's not the person you think you are. But they are actually not aware of that. I don't think they are denied. Of course, I don't live in Cameroon, so I wouldn't know. So you are saying Nigeria should not have a pob. You have a situation in 2023. I'm trying to understand whether that's what you're saying. We've been close to the pobias. The situation must have been in the calendar. Because even the situation will find ourselves in. I mean, it's quite, it's, we've tried to manage it. And God has helped us. But you can imagine the effects of having such a president. I'm very sorry to say. So if the pobias only got its tax ahead of what they have in Nigeria, so I will know man will reach Nigeria a pobias person. Not pobias. And I thought we are saying we don't want, we don't want a tinibu. That's why we say we don't want a tinibu. Because that we need nothing. Any years of tinibu will take us to pobias. Well, last time I checked, he's in his 60s. I know, of course, you can argue that his daughter, his daughter is still celebrated. Is it that he was nine years old or so? I can't remember quite the gap when he gave birth to his daughter. I don't know. They gave you a pobias sign. They gave you a pobias, he made your grandfather celebrated his 50 second birthday. Few days ago, they gave you a pobias and they're looking for the somewhere here. You know, you understand that kind of thing. Let's move straight to the punch in newspaper with the following headlines. The big one there, NIMC. A portal breaks down. Banks, telcos, passport issuance suffer. And with the following riders, downtime enters sixth day. MTN Glow Airtel, others suspend same replacement and acquisition. Immigration may rebook passport applicants' appointments as glitch stalls, NIN verification. And telcos lose millions, customers verification affected. NIMC apologizes as engineers battle crisis. At the top of the front page, investors commit 3.36 trillion there to federal government bonds in 12 months. Over subscription hits 1.61 trillion there. Details on page 32 of the punch in this paper. External reserves slide to four months low as at 39.98 billion dollars. Federal government school feeding suffers setback. Pupils wait in vain for vendors. I was paid for only three months in 2021, says contractor. And FGE making payments for school feeding ministry insists. ICPC scores UCHNCDC 24 hours low on ethics compliance. All platform explosions, seven missing, one dies, three alive, says FEMM. Really sad one there. White American prostitute jail 12 months for 57.8 million Naira fraud in Quarra state. That's bizarre. Ondoplan's TSA implementation to block leakages, Cotail fraud. Police arrest Benine's alleged trans-border kidnapper recover 2.3 million Naira. And at the bottom of the front page, Ayatollah supporters lampoon, Aribeshola's ex-commissioner for attacking governor. Housewife, 30, stabs 18-year-old husband's nephew to death, overbroken mirror in Ogun. Bizarre, yet again. Dismissed DPO fleeing kingpin, arrested. And the L.A. seizes 22, 160 kg cocaine in legal sport. Those are stories coming from the punch newspaper. Let's go straight to the nation newspaper with the following headlines on the front page. The big one there. Arsobegain's mobilization for another strike in Vastis, the writer, final decision slated for February 14th. What a day to choose for final decision. Oni's defection to ABGA unsettles PDP, fireshade 6 unity. Oni's defection to ABGA unsettles PDP, fireshade 6 unity. General Minima's passport seized over probe into 3.8 billion Nara fraud. And another one, money leads Senegal to Afghan glory. I take you to Abandoned Benware in Trying Time says O Tom. We take two more stories from the nation newspaper, Ondo government's firm Disagree, Ondo government firm Disagree on OML108 fire report. Five killed in cow clash. And finally, no territory under terror group, federal government insists. No territory under terror group, federal government insists. And there's a picture of Mr. President Mahoud Buhari in Ethiopia at the AU summit, having handshake with the Ethiopian president. Let's move straight to the next newspaper. And this time it's the Daily Independent with a big one. Regulation damaged effects market may undervalue banks. Regulation damaged effects market in May undervalue banks with a rider analyst say with Basel 3, lower liquidity lenders at risk of pressured margins. At the top of that front page, APC convention Buhari yields to governors as consensus candidates emerge this week. Marriage that produced APC not working says ex governor. FGM Nigeria has a third highest number of mutilated women says UDSF. You have insecurities left to Southeast Baran says Esima president, FPSO in Feno, cops recovered three crew members alive. SEPCO really sad one there. And federal government lists three privatized universities or rather three privatized firms from BPE monitoring and Buhari Ethiopian PM Ahmed meet over rising spate of coups in Africa. We go back to Puna Buen Kutaira now who is still standing by to give us expert analysis on the stories of Puna Buen Kutaira. Let's stay with the Daily Independent and the story on the top left corner of that front page. The APC convention is really a touchy issue and of course parallel ex-goals and chairman in different states in some states like Aqaibam State I think they had three party chairman at a time after those parallel congresses. The paper I see in President Buhari is yielding to the governors as consensus candidates are emerging this week. What are your thoughts on what is going on ahead of a convention expected to hold this month? Well, the party has recognized this elected chairman and they've been sworn in. So in the eyes of the party, the chairman of the committee, the federal state, those that have been sworn in. But now, those that are agreed, I think the party should reach out to them in another situation but keep their things there. Otherwise it's going to lead to mass defection from the party. It's not that they have an option of leader going to court, but I don't think they really want to come out of it. But that is all about the court. It's all about trying to smoothing out the rats in the party by approaching them, dealing with them. In the case of reverse state, I think it's going to be extremely difficult, it's not impossible. I'm using reverse state as an example because it depends on the genesis of the crisis and the depth of the crisis. Let's give you the depth of the crisis. When a crisis is echo-based, it becomes extremely difficult. But when it is ideological-based, you can switch to a very large list. Superiorism is a very large list. You could prevail with your friends in parties accepting whatever party or the outcome in terms of reconciliation and transition. But when it is echo-based, I can tell you that the wisdom of the cleaning party of the cloud is the question of I will not capitulate. Because if I do, then I've rubbish myself, I've rubbish my emails, I've rubbish my personality. So that is the problem in reverse state. Now, you have two factions. I don't want to duplicate any faction. But you have two factions, two major factions. You have the multisubstantial faction. You have the routinely animated faction. For example, I'm using that as an example. Now, the faction that is this one in the routinely animated faction led by Peke, so Peke, he make up Peke, sorry, Pepe. Now, these are not factions. They didn't have a multisubstantial group to cause. So that would be a massive faction. Because the future, there is this animosity that the manual faction will never ever want to see the routinely animated faction. It happened in 2019, when they had to go to court. And as a result of that, APC was not allowed to kill the candidate in the election. And the situation has worsened. It has faster. There is the same movement worsened. So why are a lot of who commented in the women-led reconciliation or care-taker community that they have done this, they have done well? Governors have defected. Not boom, boom, boom. It is not a chance for the governments to defect. They trust not defected on their own. Because they believe that APC is a better ground for them. These are the issues that we would have addressed. Because these issues are not new. They've been there. They would have called for the various factions and reconciled them. Even if it might approach Mr. President to have a meeting with them. That's it. Okay. The government was defecting as such. Those governments that defected did not defect because of boom. They defected because they saw APC as a better ground. A ground that will work at their own ambition. Not because of boom. So even in summary, what I'm saying to you in summary is that approaching the convention, I mean, I see problems. Not that these other ones that we are not inaugurated will want to cause any problem at the convention. I mean, you have security there. But if we are going beyond that, we are talking about, we are trying to have an attrition reduction to catch up and not to catch up from the fact. Okay, we have to pull the plugs now. Yeah, I think it's usefulness. It should be doing it. All right, we have to pull the plugs now, Uponabu and Kateria, but before you go, just in one sentence, can the APC surmount its challenges? Yes or no? All right, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Uponabu and Kateria has been our guests this morning on Off the Press. Here's a public affairs analyst. We appreciate the time. Up next, we have major discussions, but let's take a check. I don't happen today in history. We'll be right back.