 Hi, this is James Randi, and I've prepared this short video so that our viewers and readers will understand better what Penn Gillette of Penn and Teller actually said on Friday, June 20th, at the amazing meeting number six, which was, incidentally, a great success. Penn is outspoken, to say the least. He's frank. He tells people what he thinks as he thinks it. He made a very succinct statement, as you'll see, which was not well represented in Newsweek on their internet blog. I think that the reporter who talked about that in the blog was not quite careful enough to explain exactly what Penn said. Well, now you'll know, because this is the entire segment in which he deals with the situation at hand. He was asked about science and all kinds of things during the interview, and answered all the questions very well. This particular one, however, got a lot of attention on Newsweek and came in for some criticism. So let's take a look at Penn Gillette Friday, June the 20th, in Las Vegas, at Tam Six. Here's what he said. A bit of my bullshit detector goes off like crazy over global warming and every fucking thing Al Gore says. He seems to me like a lion sack of shit who's wrong about everything. He seems that way to me, but my feeling on that is a feeling. If there's one thing we all believe, it's that that's not enough. I still try to read about the climate change and the environmentalism and all that stuff. I try to read. I try to ask friends who are smarter than me, which is virtually all my friends. And I just haven't got an answer. I just don't know. I believe, it feels to me like in 30 years, they're going to look back at the environmental movement like Hula Hoops. The one thing I'm almost sure of, but I say almost and I mean it, is it seems like conservation has to be bullshit. It's never worked in history. We didn't save tin by conserving tin. We saved tin by inventing aluminum. There's cases like that over and over again. We're not going to save the planet if indeed the planet is in jeopardy by driving slower and smaller cars. That is clearly bullshit. But the environmental movement, I just don't know. And I'd love to be able to grow a dick and say that it's bullshit. I don't believe in any of it and just walk around strutting, but I can't bring myself to do that because really smart people have made really compelling arguments and I'm completely and utterly stymied. The one thing we're pretty sure of is that carbon credits are bullshit.