 Welcome to the Saturday morning live cast whether you're here in person or you're you're watching later on And one of the recordings like this give us an upvote down there underneath there with a little upvote Not christine's picture the brady bunch but down underneath I want to say welcome to the only wiki Tree We are the wiki Which is the biggest most wonderful community of collaborative genealogists Anywhere in the world we work together to contribute to build a wonderful shared tree where we have one ancestor live profile And that person is connected to everybody else on the tree. So that's fun So you're gonna hear us talking about connections today, but mainly Mainly today, we're just going to say good morning and then i'm going to throw it over to greg and see what kind of Weirdness he's got going on if you notice he thinks it's still christmas What's up with that? I do want to say good morning to a lot of our people brian you win your whoopee button today or winky button You're in your first at 825 goodness, um at tukla. Hello on m from amanda From melbourne austria. Hello susie karta from minnesota christine miller from montana jory jordan from south africa lisa gervais from right up the street from me and uh stitsville or carp or Somewhere over there canada somewhere. I've forgotten Um, I do know but I can't think of it right now, of course um, missouri at ducalus from missouri Crystal j. Yeah, lisa's gonna become a knock on my door. I know where you live um D. Spencer car, uh veg beauty from new york city mary slepty. Hey mary It's my sister from another mother, uh from western pennsylvania So i'm in foresters here from wales and other wales won't wait. Where's helary gadsby? She's usually hanging out together at a coffee shop watching us Uh, let's see lisa gervais expecting some snow this afternoon and into tomorrow here in ottawa Yes, we are and it snowed last night and yesterday a little bit Uh day melin the first good morning from north wales. We've got two from north wales now susie karta's here julie barthamas From illinois from asia Asia genealogy up and pronounce that correctly. Good morning from illinois Julie says she'll be knocking on your door later for coffee chris ferriello is here and he's uh, italian by way of somewhere in massachusetts. We won't give away Again, uh, let's see margaret tolls here from tennessee patricia jackson Is here from kentucky victor is here. Hey victor. How are you doing? snowy day in saint louis Or saint louis, whichever you want to pronounce that Real gear. Is that steve greenwood? Yeah, it is steve. Yeah, it is Smash that like button and stuff. I like that Vicki beyond blanco's here. Audrey martin Tree climbers here looking forward to this. What is she looking forward? We're having christmas in january Um, let's see janet aisles. Hey janet. I always love janet when she comes in And I I like seeing there's more canadians popping up. I tell you Even canadians. I never knew about I'm not even gonna say You already outed me and you're in trouble christine Uh, let's i've been in trouble all week steve and domestowitz and john tiner from ireland. Let's do spencer car Lots of extra people in here today david randall Oh, let's see. Have I got everybody? I believe I have christ swine And there we go hillary gatsby pulls in the the real for the last people coming in To have a good morning said to you welcome to the live cast and I am going to automatically Step back and join my coffee and watch this alpha thon What are we doing today? I'm doing fine. How are you? I'm doing okay. Great. Great. Well, thanks everyone for joining us for the 12th day of elfmas I even get I even get promoted in I just zipped across you got to be over here on the canadian side little elf magic You have the canadian side of the kind of blew your little tassel back there when you moved over So, yeah, welcome everyone. Um, so for the regular listeners of the saturday morning roundup We are doing something a little different. There was a question of There were profile there were profiles and we may Mention those topics, you know later on after we go through all the elves But we're not gonna I'm certainly not going to talk about those profiles this week And I don't know if we even have a time for a question that we call probably we'll handle those next week or whatever But we are going to focus on we are focusing on the elves and the 12th day of elfmas So this is the final. This is the big reveal after the secret santa 2023 challenge So for the last two weeks our elves have been very very busy working away hard At solving as many wishes as they can Right. Yes. I was just thinking that maybe we should point out that aside from our regular people that are here That's the in greg. Good morning y'all. Uh, we also have christine daniels Aowyn the elf She's she's so she's she's so cute and julie rickett What can I say about julie? She's so cute No, that's okay That's fine. Yes. So my uh, my lead my co-lead elves were chris are christine and kathy who are there And awyn of course is elf number zero the original elf the forest elf And she's been great help in getting this all organized and julie is our Discord elf and she has been amazing because every single elf who joined Um julie had to manually put them into the secret santa channel. So that was a lot of work Well, especially at the beginning when they were coming fast and furious and you were just keeping up But the fast the the the discord channel was amazing because we had Um over 80 of the elves were using discord and that was really lively for communication and collaboration and uh Great stuff. So thank you very much for both of you for all of that and awyn was doing g to g posts regularly about our 12 days of elfness. So and that was very cool too. I just did the last one Oh, you did a oh excellent. I haven't actually read it, but I'm sure it'll be good. So, um Why don't we we're gonna start off with stats because you know, I love stats So we'll start off with that and then a little bit of song And then we'll go into looking at some of the wishes. So first of all Here are the stats We had no, uh, there we go Overall we had 128 elves all together Um, that's including the the five elves here as well 128 elves working on on the secret santa this year 324 wishes came from our original g to g post's wishes accepted And then there were 15 additional wishes that came from the question of the week That was similar and and close enough that we could turn them into wishes that we could try and solve So 339 total wishes that were made that we were looking at Of those 339 we had a record 77 of those wishes actually granted It's amazing Which is an amazing like that's twice the number that we were able to solve from last year. Wow um Now some of those that are mark solved are maybe half solved like if it asks for parents and you got one or One and maybe not both. We may have marked it as solved Um And some of them we may have jumped the gun and say a solved one We just had lots of research notes that point in the right direction But may not but most of the ones that are solved um are actually, you know answered the question But some of them may be a slightly, you know You might need to do a little bit more work to to get there But you there are definitely On either all the way or almost all the way 19 people worked The elves worked on and were just solid brick walls and no matter what they could do They couldn't get any further But they added research notes and they made notes of what they found or didn't find So that's that will continue to further your research 79 other wishes where research not solved but again research notes added and so that's helpful Seven wishes were given that were just unworkable because no initial profile was given originally. We actually had some some guests um members add wishes. So those are people who haven't actually um completed the um the wiki tree um What it's called The honor code signing the honor code so they don't act. They're not a working wiki tree genealogist Oh, yeah, it was I was gonna say terms and conditions. That's not exactly that. It's there's another word for it. That's better So some of those came from from from uh Baby wiki trees or wiki trees in training. I guess you might we might say um, and We have over we had at this the last count 502 profiles In the secret santa category. So any profile that would worked on or created Was added to this category or at least most of them were there may even be more profiles out there that don't don't have the category added But at least 502 of them were so like so 502 times we remembered to do that 502 So that's pretty wild. They're definitely not all on there. They're not all on there Yeah, well and the cool thing is now with the my connections you can click on that and you can see Which one of those profiles you're act like so some of these are actually cousins of mine that I never even knew And so on So that's kind of cool um So those are the stats which are all very impressive Um, almost as impressive as the song that goes along with the Yeah, people are saying in the chat. They can't wait to hear the rest of the song Okay, so here is the song and I'll just start at the time. I'm not going to sing all 12 verses. I can just sing the final verse Okay To be here. We actually had a little Come on We would not even have to look at any of the wishes if we start But we did actually have a choir Kathy and tia and uh vicki joined me yesterday on a zoom call but unfortunately It uh, if you ever try sing together on a zoom call, it does not turn out pretty so To save us all embarrassment. I won't pray play that recording for you. Um I think next year if we record separate track. Anyways, it didn't work out So you're just going to get a solo version So here we go On the 12th day of elf miss the elves all gave to me Dozens of wishes granted 11 new baptisms 10 french soldiers nine brick wall standing eight direct ancestors seventh great-grand parents six occupations rose golden street Three fourth great-grandma's parents three generations to who british husband and a dad's family on wiki tree I love it Yes, so that was fun On core yes, we're the next one Um Well, in fact, there was a song that was penned by one of our elves tia velker Um, and we called it sourcing bells to the tune of you know, what? Um, so maybe at the end of the off-cast we can sing that one together Yeah So I can't continue that's Talk about the hook got the hook Um, so we did something unique this year isn't we had um We had an elf an elf cast for the 12 days of elf miss starting on box and day the 26 Up to uh yesterday and each of these of course were the theme of that and you can see all of those youtube videos if you go check out the links that A went and put in the g to g posts um, but also in the We had we of course used a free space page To keep track of everything that we were doing And this is what the elves all had access to and that we used it To categorize the all the wishes that we were looking at so you can see here if I zoom in a little bit maybe so there's a box of wishes And christine and kathy did the bulk of all of this organizing in terms of reading all the wishes categorizing them and then Uh, they put them in a in a spreadsheet. We have a little secret spreadsheet over here Which has a lot of all the details color coded and and whatnot um and then uh I transferred it to the free space page with a little bit of uh little magic there and uh, this is what we worked on We're I'm going to add the lyrics to those to the 12 days Um to that as well as the sourcing bells Carol and when I do the final g to g thank you post To summarize the whole secret santa challenge I will have a link to this page so that people can can see that as well And uh and check it out. So if you made a wish Um, then once I make that post you can come to this page look up your wish and then see what What people found, um, you can actually see who worked on your wish and give them a little thank you Um, and you can also and see any notes that they wrote But of course on the profiles themselves most of the else added research notes anyways, so I'm going to zip down So the this has been reorganized so that the wishes at the top are the ones that we didn't quite solve So some of them you'll say they'll say either looked at or research Basically, those mean the same thing Um, here's one that's partly research and there's some dna pending so that we can solve it after that um But then here's the list of all the solved wishes and so um I think I'm going to turn it over to pristine just to sort of take it from here and I will just click on tabs and um Try and be quiet So Well, I'm just going to refer to my notes and you can uh follow along how you So, um What was wish 12? Uh, there's a research note on um on the profile for wish 12 I do have it marked as solved So this was for Catherine stoner And What were they looking for? So k knight was looking for her parents um, and then There's a huge note here that you can read about finding her parents and identifying the area in the state where We think she was from so I think there was a little bit of maybe confusion or mistranscription at one point Where the city name was or the county name was katie instead of kato Or maybe it was a short form for something which has really gone through a lot of there's a lot of detail um on the profile about uh, what was looked at And where to find all of that information. Um, it's not totally solved in that she doesn't have profiles made for her parents But I think there's a lot of, um information there that could potentially lead to parents in the future And a lot of these I mean a lot of these brick walls are brick walls because of the time Period that we're looking at So I noticed that a lot of the a lot of the profiles that were in the states were very very early like Early 1800s even into the 1700s and I don't research a lot in the state So I don't know what kind of records are out there But I do know that anybody who picked up any of these wishes had a really difficult time For the most part looking and finding this the source records that they needed And if it turns out to be a brick wall, then you know that somebody else has looked at it And we've all collaboratively done as much as we can at this time What are you on next 18? So we wish 18. Yeah Looking for Looking for parents or more information on this profile And that was the theme of a lot of them So this is john stevens from 1801 in england The england uh team had a lot of work to do and they came through flying colors on a lot of profiles And john stevens does have parents Has parents so he is the son of john stevens and elizabeth Unknown maiden name And there was no evidence that he had a middle name So that was taken out But they did do a thorough search of the birth records in the dorset history center And other dorset Sources milk from that one So yeah Parents for john. Yeah In which 20 you covered on the 11th day so you can watch that youtube video Wish 21 this was a this was a wish for a complete transcription There was a will that the wishy was working on and had most of it done on their own But then there was a portion at the bottom that was written in latin And who knows how to read latin anymore elves do So the rest of the transcription was completed including the latin Which turned out to be a standard paragraph with no actual Information But at least you know now, you know, there you know it's just some standard Terms and conditions that they were putting in the register boiler latin boilerplate, right? Who knew Okay, wish 24 was also was there our lead the first day of alfamus and that was with margaret Told meredith. Yep did a great job starting us off And really I got to give kudos to to margaret because when we asked her to come on she was She was right there and did no problem I'll be happy to do that and then she said after we talked about she said can I sort of talk about my methodology and how I Used to solve the wish which was wonderful and and great and if I wish I wish I had Sort of paid a more attention or been more on the ball So I could have shown screenshots of where she was going. She led us all through it But we I wasn't sharing the where where she led us But that sort of That changed how we did the rest of the elf casts and we use that Theme of it was fantastic technology and how to find those sources and whatnot And I think it really enhanced the elf cast Okay, um So on to wish 28 Wish 28 was Yes, they found the parents of Whitburn That was an australian wish Patrick yeah and margaret from ireland Wish 30 wish 30 was another brick wall wish for peter petersen And peter has parents Look at pierce and I and he also has an ancestor tab You can he's a little more than parents. Look at that Wow That's very impressive Right. Yeah Can I have parents? No, you can't have parents. You can have a whole ancestral tree And it really does again amaze me that um A lot of the elves who Can work have the ability to work in areas where You don't know how to work right can just Go and magically find Piles and piles of records and create lovely enormous trees it was We had some really good if you haven't seen the elf mess videos They were absolutely fantastic. We learned so much about researching In europe And we all wish we had had scribes who were as diligent as the german as the germans and deed Yeah Okay 32 32 death record. Yeah there was um There's just notes on that profile The wish was granted by mary sluffy and karen low. They found an obituary and a clipping um Mary went so far as to a call the cemetery where the rest of the family is buried Um, she's in uh houston and added their page and pull on the family plot as an image for her husband And then emma offered to also look at the dna if she thought that would be useful nice 35 which 35 was presented on the third day of elf mess That was the first day when we had elf dany guttnacht from germany And dany did some crazy amazing work. It was Yeah, that was fantastic And when we talk about detail in the baptism it not hotels you wear the the order like the third child But it'll also say the second son of the family third child the second like It's so detailed. That was just anyways It made us very very jealous. Yes And then the wish 42 was the second day of elf mess and moving on And then 47 was the tenth day of elf mess all of these Early wishes we lined up because I needed to find ones that match the the numbers of the of the lyrics So that's why the earlier ones got on elf mess more more often Well after greg decided to do 12 days of elf mess and then I realized what we were up against Yes, I had to quickly go around And find Profiles that match the the one through 12 criteria. Yeah, that's right Uh wish 52 Yeah, wish 52 was looking for information on a birthplace and elizabeth now does have a birthplace at duchess new york That's duchess county There's a duchess county Yeah, oh Okay duchess with a t though Oh Interesting. Yes And she also has parents Good stuff Yeah, 55 Uh 55 Oh, this was one of those negative ones. Wasn't it? I don't know that did you look at this one? Yeah, I did briefly. Yeah, so Go ahead So in this one we wanted they want to find out um Yes, they wanted to prove so anna anna was mentioned in a father's will um But they wanted to have proof of that and The elves when they looked through it, they realized that the solemn and hansen Um who wrote the will bequeathed to his daughter anna hanson who was unmarried but This anna hanson was definitely married in in 182 when the father passed away Because she was already married and had children six children by then so it could not have been the same anna hanson And so they they detached the the parents so So in some in one sense, it's sort of a negative It's a negative find but that's important to know and so that we can Continue this question. Yeah, that's where we get into conflation and we start When we had and we had a lot of that too I mean, we always do where we have people with the same name and then you have to Really be careful to make sure you're not Getting two of the mixed up Uh, and then David randall hadn't had a wish that was solved by danie on wishmaker's record for edward Which reads on monday the june 19th the priest mr. Everett baptized a legitimate child who was born on the 13th Same month at 3 a.m. In first house number 141 Giving him the names yohan hindrack edward. The father is mr. Philip airline owner of a lithographic company here This was the one where He knew that he must be connected to there was a family and they were all the photographers And he knew that he must be connected But he wanted to confirm without being able to read any of the german records And danie was able to confirm that he The immigrant ancestor did belong to the lithographic family Uh in germany And again in a show of like amazing german records it gives Everybody's name house number Where they were from mother's maiden name everything Yeah, if you can read the script If you well, yes, we had a lesson on reading german script as well. That's right And then the god parent of Edward was The brother of the child's mother so if he gets an uncle as well on there bonus. Yeah So that's the type of record. I always love looking at the original records. They're just so cool And there's such a variety from this And Number 59 was another one solved by danie another danie wish he added a bunch of siblings and he added parents as well to that Look at all those siblings and parents. Yeah Wish 61 Wish 61 Any information For robertson I think that was looked at So we have a the biography is filled out there's some censuses added to it so Uh children so there's lots of information now added that wasn't before Claire worked on that Quite a bit. There's um, if you in the changes laws, there's a lot of edits A lot of bio improvements lots of research notes A lot of times when you're when i'm trying to look at these profiles and see like if it's been Fulfilled to which what the wish he wanted You have to go into the changes log and see like because all of the information becomes seamless When you're creating when the alpha goes in and just makes a lovely biography for the profile Yeah But there's tons of information there Uh, which 72 was presented on the fourth day of alfamus another danie. That's the one where danie Um leads us through how to uh, how to interpret the german script Um, and there's some the handwriting is not quite the same as the cursive that That you know, I learned here in canada Um, so it's very interesting and there's some special characters. Um, so that's a really neat one to watch if you haven't already seen it Uh wish 74 hang on It's back up one second. Oh, I want to go back to uh wish 64 which was a dna wish Oh That was for The profile is rhymer 570 r y m e r So emma had to look for at this one. Um, and she was she got Close but not Entirely able to solve it Um, somewhere in that tree. There's some endogamy. So that makes the dna a little less Um easy to Um go through Uh, so she wasn't able to pinpoint the answer But she does have hints and she did um a good research note. I think on that profile She did find christina living in william scott's household in 1860 and she had already suggested That his family was the possible birth father And that's scott 60204 She's also waiting for another dna test to come through so that she can do more Um, another analysis from another person Okay, so that's one that's kind of there but still has potential to be completely solved okay So And then my next one I had was 74 Mm-hmm That one was solved by gwenna All right looking for wishes before The person was born right? Yes And the biography you can see starts at the birth where he was working Yeah, and I don't think she was able to find anything Um, this oh, yeah, this was the guy who moved so he was I think he was um likely that he was born in wales But then he moved to london and again being in Being between wales and england with a very common name that could be misspelled as davis Um, it wasn't something that was able to be He wasn't able we couldn't nail him down Because there's too many options, but she did leave um Quite a bit of notes on the on the bottom there for For kala to go over Yeah If we if we tracked the number of lines of research notes added collectively during this challenge, it would be amazing. Oh Yeah And then I had 75 which was a brick wall And again notes upon notes upon notes Mm-hmm. This is a huge Um long profile and then there's also questions So they had uh, they had nine verified children um They then they had some questions about you know, why did somebody? Have a certain name. Where did that where did that name page come from? um, why was The one son the only living child that wasn't mentioned in the will That might be an awkward question But uh, yeah this bank had a lot of lives And 76 was another brick wall mm-hmm and stanley Uh worked on that one did a lot of work And he found a birth record. There's the birth record from Family search Because i'm not connected now our friend kathy down below She did amazing work by going to the family search center and getting how many records do you think you or images? Did you find kathy over the the whole quest? Maybe a handful of them um I thought you were you had a lot more that you were posting in the discord I think it looked like it because I think I went and um Got them and then forgot that I had gotten them Oh no because I didn't mark On the page that I had gotten them so that's On my suggestion list of what to do for next year is a better way of I see but were you marking I don't know that I got them. Were you fast at retrieving them the second time around? Yes But it also helps when I have links to the index page. Yeah That's right and then how many of those records were Actually, do they have the information that was required? Um, did they hold the clue necessary they'll hold the clue that's right that I don't know. Um But I was I do have um all the images that I did get I do have them So I can access them at at home So and there was one that was on there for a look up um And I tried finding the name you haven't gotten into it yet But I couldn't quite find it. So I just grabbed all the images for that year Oh There was only like a handful for each year. So So a little bit more work for the elf to do to ours for the profile manager to do. Yes Okay, wish 80 looks looks difficult Uh wish any insult That's wow. But look at the ancestor tab Okay, so this is There we go. So Christina and Richovich Ancestors Wow Look at that. This was D's wish and uh It cut salt So they found all of those ancestors in Croatia amazing This get Thanks So and Anyone else who's in the chat here you can uh, or you can pipe in too if you there's something interesting you see or if you have any questions Um onto 83 looking for birth information Let's see Yeah Yeah, again, this is another like early one 1820 scotland. Um, so I think that it was Yeah, it was looked at but you know Sometimes the sometimes the things that we're looking for just aren't there right But uh, there's a good research note And uh, hopefully Tracy can go from there I do like how everybody's using more research knows that's such a valuable way to document stuff. We did and I Emphasize that it's a good example set. Yeah. Yeah I I do want to mention about scotland is that one of the members of the project went through um and pulled out all the scotland wishes and Kind of threw it out. There's a little bit of a mini challenge for the scotland project if anyone wanted to Work specifically on those and I think But that was A really good idea. So that might be something we want to follow up on next year is maybe try and Um Get some of these projects involved And see if they can help with some of these Yeah, that was helpful And then I have um, it's not marked. I don't think um, if you have an ear less for 86 Which of 86 86 I don't have 86 mark there, but let me just hear 86 was something that uh Here it is we were You don't have 86, but you edited the geography. I know This is one that we were working on in discord yesterday. Um, and I think it was celia that was um looking for Yes, celia did a lot of work on this family for steven and found Uh lots of records and I was able to help her out with a bunch of newspaper clippings So, um, mary does have parents and I If you go to john right And then john actually had three wives, right And it's just a huge extended family and we were um Celia was just making you know more and more and more children Yes So I think in the original profile mary was written as the daughter of john and eva But based on the marriage dates there and the fact that um It looks like Her mother had to have been maria right Who passed away when she came over so she probably was raised by eva Hmm Yeah, I think that was what's a widower to do with a bunch of children Well, just find someone And then find someone else after that Oh And then if you have 87 87 is another dna wish Okay Okay that emma worked on Um, so she was looking for uh the parents of that profile And they're not connected yet Okay, um Oh actually, yeah, so There is she's not sure who the exact father is But she does have a relation. So there's a another profile It's lassiter 224 that is either Um The pro James left by it last or is either the son or the grandson Of lassiter 224 And then there's another last or profile Um That is last year 344 and that one is also a grandson but doesn't Either doesn't have a known father or maybe There's just too many sons to pick from and we just haven't found the the paper trail. So Genetically they're related But paper wise they haven't been figured out yet Cool, does that make sense? Yeah, and emma did a lot of those dna searches and wishes Yeah, there was also in that wish was for Patterson Harriet Patterson. So that's james's wife Her father is james s Patterson and then his mother is listen to dire And then that tree from lucinda goes up and think as well Very cool And then the third one that she had was Willie may Hughes Again, not really sure who the father Exactly is but his father is a son of wade Hampton Hughes And his wife Um elizabeth this Patrick, okay, and then emma will be sending out Nice, yeah wish 88 number of keys on a keyboard Just in case you you know, it's been a while since we talked about there any numbers Oh I I noticed a lot of Fibonacci comments in the comments. Oh, yes. There we go. Thank you. Those are my teeth So Robert has a, um, mother He does not have a father Um So Yeah, this was Yes, I looked at this one. Okay. Now. I know who he is Um, there was a question on this one because he got married in england But all of the records said that he was born in pennsylvania And that just seems like a really weird thing So they couldn't figure out was he really born in pennsylvania? Where was he born? Where did he come from? So they did actually confirm that he was born pennsylvania And now I can see that they've attached a mother He was married the first time um To sarah in england And then I believe they came over They either once they came over to canada or then he came over they were getting the next step But then he got yes born in pennsylvania Came to scatch one So he's born pennsylvania and then he gets married in england and then somehow ends up in canada And then gets remarried To a second wife who's from ontario And then have and then they have smart children and then she They both die in enamel vc Yeah Wow So yeah, there was a lot of there was a lot of tracking done on that On that one he was hard to pin down Especially with a name like robert davidson again Yeah, it's um and I think some of the records were possibly davison Yeah, in the research shows uh his parents are noted as robert davison with no d and margaret suell Interesting Yeah, but again lots and lots of nodes Which 91 from mason bunker Uh, yes, uh dunia Did that one? Mm-hmm And I think she was able to confirm Through reading a record That uh his parents are yohan carl filipas and ava maria Kaiser and again if you click the ancestor tab He got some extra you got some grandparents too Nice Yeah, very cool And I also notice uh sticker added for the hess name study now. Was that there before or after? I'm not sure But cool that they added that and look at our little sticker here our secret scientist. Yeah 92 looking for parents in scotland Um So they do have parents now. I don't know how you find parents in scotland for somebody born in 1830 It's just it blows my mind But his uh father is hugh cameron and his mother's name is cunningham And her last name is mcphadson Which has to be Barely easy to track He would think uh-huh And again, there's some notes On the bottom of a possible gravestone You would be amazed at some of these names that you think would be unique Oh turn out to be very common in a certain area, which is the area that you're looking at I think ceilia ran into that as well ceilia did a lot this week Yeah, yeah, there was two weeks I was reading a conversation about How many people can there possibly be named fetna? And turns out I think there was two of them and I didn't fall I don't get to the end of the that I didn't follow the end of that trail, but I don't know if it was two of them They were just into separate places or what it was, but there was a lot of um There's a lot of frustration going on on that one. Yeah So we've got up to wish 100 right now. All right. So wish 100 is solved by mason funker Irving Marsh has a father Yay And what was that? It was any information on the great-grandfather. Yeah So we actually have a bit of a biography here about So there we go 103 Yeah, he added mason added children and research notes to Irving Oh 103 Looking for the whereabouts of the great aunt. Let's see if we can find her I haven't marked his soul. We found her in loggeville mirror machine North in new Brunswick And again, that's an area where I'm just amazed that people can find Records because I mean Yeah, 1892 and In the Brunswick. Yeah There we go. And some good research notes here with links to number of different sites There was a yeah, I did look at this one briefly There was a lot of research notes here, but again, it's a it's a name thing like her name was Geneva But then she shortened it to Eva So when you're trying to track A girl who changes her name Yeah, I wouldn't have thought of Geneva going to Eva, but it makes sense when you listen to it, right? Yeah, yeah, and then um, and then of course being either king or wilson. Those are very common as well Okay, but look at there's a research note on guitar. Who knew that we had wiggy tree profiles with guitar Okay, so there we go even marry guitar There you go It's probably I wonder what nationality that is It's probably not pronounced guitar might be guitar I don't know, but I wonder if there's a piano Piano There's a john piano. Okay. Sorry. That's my little digression for today. I had to digress at least once, right? Yes I got it. I got it. Okay Geet's hard Was the original spelling And it's from the ancient germanic personal name Widdhard W-i-d-h-a-r-d composed of elements Of wood forest and hard strong Habitational name of guitar The name of several places in the southern part of france Oh Thank you Excellent. That's great Oh, okay We're not going to be able to get through all of these are we christine? No I you know what I tried in the thing. We're so used to greg running over Oh, I know on the saturdays that you know, well, yeah I tried so hard to make notes. I've got notes and notes and notes and Honestly, it's yeah. No, there's no way to do it in an hour for sure um Yeah, so I don't know. Do we want to we're getting close to an hour. What's our goal here? Do we want to How Well, that's a third of them, right that you would yeah If they if they're equally spaced that would be about a third of them So, uh, I don't know if we if people will want to stick around for the entire list Um, can you just go through the list and then people can when they have access to the page? Then they can go to the profiles and check out the profiles. Yeah, I think that's what we will end up doing So for those whose wishes are beyond this, um Why don't I I have some notes so I can just talk without you trying to keep up? Well, you talk and I will try I'll I'll find them or I won't find them We'll make it a challenge in our document in the secret santa reveal document I have a bunch that are listed and I tried to put all the The profiles there. So I'm just going to start, um, okay with that one Um, let's see. We talked about 100. So the next one I had was 130 I had that marked as a third solved. So there was uh, it was who are the parents of my either my great-grandfather Okay, um, there was a couple of profiles there Or catherine fall my great-grandmother Um ross worked on the father of catherine fall and created and sourced um her father So that was partially done The other two were it's a question of between poland and russia And I know it's very difficult when we have borders that change constantly in And I know that a lot of those researchers And we talked about researching in poland and germany and all of these places And it comes down to Do we know a little bit farther down Other than country can we get it down a little bit farther so that we know which um Which region which canton That we need to look in because as danny was telling us earlier in the week If you can find The area that they are that they came from Then you can get the specific parish register and look at all those parish registers But without that it's kind of fun trying to find a needle in the haystack Yeah Wish 139 Celia worked on this one and did a free space page for her research on that Look at that This is very impressive. Look at that. Wow. I love these elves. I just don't know when you slept And I just don't know when you ate food or slept You must have just been running on I love that. It's like a running commentary Side trip back to the family. Oh back to what we know, but I love it It's it's fantastic. That was really well done And a conclusion Okay She got her She she passed her high school english essay class right now Oh And then 189 was another DNA wish And the parents are not attached as of yet. I think Emma was going to do that maybe later today But her the father of Goldie is Andrew Sylvester Lange and her mother is Lucille May Barkas And they also have profiles Nice And then I think also that those um I think her tree kind of goes Maybe not the father but the mother Click on is she attached to her? Lucy Okay, no, maybe not Anyway, she's got piles of family cool Lots of lots of profiles done there Uh wish 221 I have Linda chicken was able to find a world war one military record and a pension and pension information from The Iowa old age tax assistance records Which named his parents John Peter's son and Melinda Chapin And then she found three siblings for frank cool Wish 230 this was an interesting one too. This was one of the ones that we were thinking of doing for the sixth day of Elvis, but we switched and did a different one Elf Kirby worked on this one and found a bunch of newspaper clippings. This guy was really interesting. He was This is very cool. He was in the employ of the town of the County or whatever and they were they had charged him with embezzlement of funds over The span of a number of years And so she found all these clippings about you know How good of a person he was and all the evidence against him and the other guy that they were looking at to charge as well And the very last Document that they that she found was the indictment Decision is expected later today And that was it So we still don't really know what happened But we have a better idea of what was going on with all these clippings. We just We uh We don't know what the outcome was. Were they all from the same newspaper? Yep, I think so So they're all from Chicago. Well, many were from Chicago to do Chicago Tribune. Yeah I wonder if we if you just looked at the next few Days of the newspaper if you I think if somebody wanted to take the time and go and look at that next That next paper and then try to read through it, but just trying to do a search Did not yield. Yeah anything on that one. Yeah, I was curious about this one as well So I looked an indictment doesn't mean that they were criminal It means that they if they were indicted that means that there's grounds for criminal charges, right? Yep But it doesn't necessarily mean that the criminal case went forward Right and one thing I found I searched for Francis a becker the person who was Who was expected to be denated against as well. Okay And he was on trial. He did go to trial and his case was all about corruption in the in the Chicago police Oh, no And sorry, Joe Um and his went to trial and because some of the other stuff claimed that Giles was um Uh was that there was some political interference with his his uh Charge, I'm wondering if they went for the larger fish and just left Henry jiles as well So that's a theory that um, I'm throwing out there And I added yeah, maybe I want to know Because he he didn't die in prison No, no, he was free after that and then moved on to other places. So we don't know But we don't know like was he fine. Did he you know time served? You know, yeah Very plea deal someone says maybe Yeah, uh, then I have that's an excellent suggestion Betsy just to go through the paper because maybe it just wasn't Indexed or you know, you know how sometimes the indexing puts strange numbers letters in and so you Right. I mean, it's if that newspaper had taken the care to cover it in detail up to that point. Yeah Yes, why would they drop it? Why wouldn't they say? Yeah Good point All right, 233 was a brick wall from don Watson Um We did a whole day on brick walls the ninth day was the elves were saying yeah, we didn't under this one But I think it's it's still brick walled. There's no, um, there's lots of notes on the profile Yes, I didn't put the link in here. Sorry. That's why it's um There's lots of notes on the profile to aid future researchers I feel this brick wall is breakable to music advanced research methodologies and offline records But could not break it with the records available. It's being online, right Uh, 241 was marked assault Uh, David said there's a very good chance that the possible parents mentioned in the profile research notes are the correct ones There's a birth record for john in 63 in old them and a census record for old them in 71 from family search that links these people together Uh, wish to 55 was super easy. That was just somebody helping needing help to Get their account back in order And I'm a kathy and and elf julie for the win Uh wish 259 from harvard williams fine ancestors of his paternal grandfather And he now has parents Okay, I have to talk about 288. Okay, because this was jinx's wish and I love jinx to death because Jinx worked so hard on my english lines before and she does so much work for the english project And in the true spirit of giving she asked for something Not for herself But for an unrelated Unconnected profile of a notable And al lisa who I also adore Went ahead and created those profiles And now that uh that notable is connected And it was a mexican Notable There we go Did you find it? Yes Yes Look at that. I don't know if they have I don't know if lisa Oh, yes, lisa's there. Yeah. Oh, no, you can click on the ancestors tab over there. Oh, sorry Your your show's a bit different in mine Oh There we go. Yep, and she was so lisa was um Able to connect him to the tree twice for two different lines Nice Yeah, I think the connection through one of his in-laws or niece. Yes, I think so It was uh one of the kids got married and then through that american line, which is super easy was connected nice 289 was solved for peter burkey Elf dany again was to the rescue on this one and found baptisms for um Three different profiles and then connected Burkey two to his parents So there's a huge Uh, there's a huge ancestor tree again on that one 291 oh, you're you're whipping along you're getting there 291 after we solved that one I again I didn't get to Mm-hmm. I promise every year I will be more and more organized. Oh, that's okay I think it was we were all a little overwhelmed at over 300. That's right. It was a lot to manage this year. There we go Yes, 20 born on christmas day. He was impressed. Look at that Um, and then 293 elf susan worked on that one um I think that was the one they they wanted A connection between the husband and the wife But we weren't really sure what The spirit of the wish was joseph was already connected to the tree Um, and then susan was going to work on the wife's family And then joseph was also he falls under the usb h um, so I just I left that one there, but I think Without a little more clarification. I'm not really sure what we were going for but usb h is the us black heritage project. Yeah Yeah, yes Uh wish 300 was solved elf claire again Was working on this one Uh, she was able to find alexander after the 1891 census And then she found his marriage record And he got married to a girl named janet and watson And she knows how they met because they were both employed at an asylum and ran for sure He was an asylum attendant And she was a nurse And they went on to have two sons alexander and sandal And then alexander died in 1941 at the age of 66 Wow, uh wish 305 uh lisa again Found a record that I should have known to look for myself, but It is what it is Uh, so she found uh this woman. Um, she lived in ontario and she died She lived and died in ottawa and she was buried in beechwood cemetery Which is a huge cemetery in ottawa and they of course have a huge cemetery register Which happens to be online and it named her parents as william and an And I had found another record that referenced william and an So we know what her parents names were we just We need to still work on finding them. It looks like an probably died Fairly young we've tried I tried tracking her siblings And was not terribly successful in that But they seem to have kind of scattered about the countryside And none of them are mentioned in her Obituary, so I don't know if there was a falling out or if they just Lost contact with each other after she was married But I was able to find lots of clippings and her husband was actually a bandmaster There's a really cool picture on the profile Of uh of him And there's uh, there was a really interesting Clipping that I found from one of the ottawa papers about How she got stunned by a by a bolt of lightning And was knocked unconscious. She fell into her husband's arms And was unconscious for half an hour And then came to and then went on to live several more years He unfortunately was already sick with something so he passed away the same year But there's lots of notes and Trying to chase siblings and and all that 306 was solved I'm going to say solved There was a lot of back and forth over where the heck did this start name come from And it looks like it was You know another case of somebody has left the country they were born in and they have come to The states and it got Written down Incorrectly so I think her last name is going to end up being Dorn Hine So D-O-O-R-N-H-E-I-N All right They were able to find lots of people. I don't think any of them have been connected No, but I think they have a good Um a good lead on who the rest of her family is So there should be piles and piles notes Yes, there was a huge huge discussion about that in the discord channel Um wish 312 was a brick wall that emma worked on through dna She wasn't able to find the answer to just due to a lack of dna on a specific surname But she sent a clue uh to cliff that rebecca is related to john holiday turner Probably through his parents He she couldn't find out who john's parents were and most trees that she found Um online. I don't know if that was ancestry or family search had the wrong parents connected so through further research And finding the siblings of john and the kids of those siblings You'll probably find rebecca's dad. Who's likely named charles turner from the marriage record And Hi Or wish 100 times pie Wish 100 times Okay, okay. Thank you. Thank you. I thought that that that there was an angel that had just gotten its wings because I heard a bell So wish 314 uh elf kirby who's done amazing work and we each uh Kirby was the elf featured yesterday on the 11th day of elveness Again went to the workshop she found two great fourth great grandparents for that wish And then Moving on to wish 316 another marriage record and baptism for the firstborn daughter found the parents and the wife So this one's partly solved Or what was requested sorry i'm on you those records weren't available. They're missing the The church books. They were lost right so the the book that the information was in much like the 1890 census gone ah so Partly solved on that one right and that was elf kathy's wish Oh There you go. There we go And 319 was for george coffee anderson um, this wish was put in by the wife of a descendant Of george coffee anderson But alice was able to go in and actually the profile was already there in wiki tree Oh, um, it was created for george in 2020. He's the father of 16 children count him And um, the his paternal lines go back quite a bit so The only thing to do now is that either That wiki tree or needs to work his tree up to george Or somebody needs to work the 16 children down and then find the connection in there somewhere But I don't think there was any question um as to George's name and all of that. I think that that prior research is already been done Mm-hmm. Nice. Um, 324 was another dna wish by emma She was able to find the birth father She's still looking for the birth mother and she thinks she's probably from new york Okay, i'm done. You're done Well done, thank you christine I don't think you're done. I don't think you're gonna be back next year I'm done like dinner for today though for today. Yes But we do have we have lots of lots of thoughts for next year The elves really had a lot of input on how to get things organized so that they can work um better more quickly more organized fashion um So we were we were changing things a little bit on the fly as we were going and I think if we Incorporate a lot of those ideas Next year it's going to be even better I think one of the first that's in true wiki tree style Yeah, that's right Well, one of the challenges was with so many wishes over 300 wishes on one free space page And 128 elves all trying to access them There were times when you'd go to edit because you you have to you had What we asked the elves to is to edit that little section for a specific wish to say that they're working on it Or to give updates and whatnot and there were times when people were trying to edit different parts of the free space page and it was Uh, it would say oh you someone else is working on it. You can't save this yet Um, and that's frustrating when that happens And if you're not used to it if you're if you're new at editing free space pages and this is a new experience then that that could be Discombobulating so But our elves stuck with it and they did a wonderful job Yeah Okay, stop sharing Greg. I am officially I'm closing all my windows. You're closing your tab That's not bad It's not bad. It's just like a regular live cast another stat Another stat I could have added was um, the maximum number of tabs open during an elf cast was 35 35 tabs. Yes Well, I quickly realized that we weren't going to be able to do slides because I wasn't going to be able to keep up with it um And I remember Mindy used to Chastise me slightly for having way too many slides for the wikichu challenge when I would do presentations for that I know But the elves were so hard. We wanted to give everyone their sort of their I do I and I want to have all I want to have all the time. I want to talk about every single wish and unfortunately I can't So welcome to my world I But I want to thank every single wish Every single wishy that submitted a wish. Was it a wishy or a wisher We called them wishes. We called them wishies, but At every single elf whether you felt like you contributed or not you did There you go, christine Hmm Pause applause applause. I knew my wish was difficult Lots of nice comments Yeah, you guys everybody was made May the spirit of elfness Continue throughout the year That's right. Well an angel got its wings. Oh My doorbell how apropos was that? That's right. Yes. Oh the dog. You didn't know what to do. Yeah Well Yes, unless you want to sing the sourcing bells. I think the elf portion It's 11 17 and it's our 11 19 and it's time almost time for football I have to leave soon. Yeah, okay Um, Greg, do you have any last words you want to want to add to what's going on? Well, I just um, thank you christine is has thanked all the the wishies and the elves and I just like to thank My co-conspirators here christine and kathy for all the hard work. They did they spent hours doing Like organizing and then going back and checking and helping people and working through the discord And uh, and julian aowyn as well for helping skip all all the things set up and supporting us as well So, uh, just it was a wonderful. I think it was a wonderful challenge and it worked out very well. So We'll see you next christmas. Yeah, we'll see you next christmas It was it was a lot of really great stuff I think we need to construct another lead elf to join us though Exponential like that you can recruit somebody. I've been Well, we have actually talked about where we have a lead elf For every like country so we could have like an english elf and a german elf and they can just a center klaus Thank you so much for doing that for us today We really have nothing more to say other than Betsy and greg and I will be here elfless. We'll be so sad Next saturday, we will see you then you guys have a wonderful wiki tree week And we will see you next week. Thank you. Bye