 How we doing today? Welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 18. Hopefully everything is sounding Lovely. I have absolutely no idea if it is for you. We did testing on our end But we don't know about your end, right? So you'll have to let me know about all of that I am your host with the most Nathaniel Rumpfield Jants to my left and your right as always is mr. Eric Moore Hello, everybody. So the reason why I said I don't know what we sound like is we have brand new Mike's today. You can see the fat boy, especially over on area. These things are studio grade quality We'll see how it goes. I don't know if it actually sounds good My stream deck doesn't work right now with certain things, but you guys can hear us and that's really all that matters now We have a number of topics today three in particular one You guys know the the switch robbing in a price drop next week like before our next podcast like within a few days Well, yeah, we'll be talking about that Sony by the way had a showcase today a 40 minute presentation We'll talk about that as well and maybe some of my Twitter drama surrounding it That was a little fun. I know what drama drama you and drama never And then we're actually gonna talk about a bit about the switch all that later And maybe the hype or lack thereof as we are under four weeks away and Nintendo has yet to remind anyone the things even coming Nice so Let's first dive into I guess maybe the lead topic I suppose and that is That the Nintendo switch might be getting a price drop now When I talked about this earlier this year when switch OLED was announced I mentioned that I had a feeling by next year next year holiday. So holiday 2022 one the current base switch would be discontinued and to the Switch OLED would become the new base switch and they would drop the price to two hundred ninety nine dollars Then back during July There was a little price nefoo at Walmart with switch OLED pre-orders where people were being given $50 credits or $50 refunds back on all of their switch Pre-orders making the switch OLED only cost $300 and I've confirmed through multiple people to this day. They still have only been charged $300 for their pre-order of switch OLED now Explanations at the time were obviously this is a mistake They're screwed up. It's a new product someone at Walmart okay this but they okayed it based on the price of what the other switch Costs not realizing it's a new product So we kind of figured it was a mistake, but it hasn't been rectified since which makes you feel like maybe it wasn't a mistake or maybe Possibly Walmart at the time was all huh. Well, it is a mistake, but it's our bad We got to let it go for the ones that are they actually doing the right thing. Yeah, I don't know Walmart's customer support is not really so much on it when I've reached out to him other than it is what it is so Okay, fine. That doesn't really mean they're gonna lower the price of switch But it was kind of sort of a interesting notion that you know It felt like a mistake, but maybe it's not because that is a price point that Nintendo was considering don't know but what we do know is that a Very reliable Source that is connected to French retail outlets. That's right all the way out in According to them according to these French retailers They are going to be lowering the price of the switch by 30 euros as of Monday next week the base $300 switch will have the price lower now This is according to Nintendo alerts for those who don't know who Nintendo alert is he is a French Kind of like a Wario 64 if you guys know who he is out on Twitter who gives updates and alerts on things except Nintendo Does it for France? But Nintendo is actually got real world connections to retailers in France and has proven it time and time again by knowing exactly When switches switches we're gonna drop kind of like Jake Randall knows when PlayStation 5 is gonna drop That's because he has connections at the retail outlets and so does Nintendo alerts and his sources have said starting next Monday Not some special holiday sale or anything crazy The permanent price drop is coming to the base model Nintendo switch and it's enough of a price drop to think It's not just a localized thing because if you think okay, if it's just gonna be a market price drop I'm gonna have ten bucks You know just just something minor right like like Wal-Mart lower Like like Wal-Mart's you know all brand new games at Walmart if you go in person are ten dollars cheaper Something like that then you start to think okay That the but a 30 euro drop equals up to roughly $50 USD That is not a small amount of change to lower the price of switch So if that's happening in France and again, this person is character with French retailers Not necessarily retailers in other countries in Europe. It does suggest that next week We could very well be getting a price drop on switch by $50 making it 249.99 so first off Eric, what are your thoughts guessing you're getting there But isn't that a doesn't that say a 60 euro drop not a 30. Oh, maybe it's a 60. Yeah, I know the story Maybe it's changed since the original no, that's either way it's gonna be about $50 It's gonna be costing 249.99 is basically the consensus nice So my question to you is what are your initial thoughts on a price drop and doing it now? Nintendo's trying to get rid of their original stock to Come out with the OLED I mean that's gotta be what it is I said when switch all that was announced this platform right here I said when that system was announced, it's the replacement for the current base model switch It is not the pro It is not well, I kind of confused that beginning, but it's not the pro It is a replacement. It is the switch XL that's going to replace the current switch at the same price point eventually Not at launch Now you might be going well if they're lowering the price of this the 249.99 next week Why don't they also lower the price of the OLED for one you'll let's not hear it yet and two They're gonna take advantage of early adopters still selling. Yeah, they're gonna take advantage early adopters Now is it worth a hundred dollars more than the baseball switch? Hell no, but it doesn't matter They're gonna take advantage of the early adopters. So one it's always big news and there's a price drop because we're still in the midst of a technically a pandemic worldwide and Switches continuing to sell out in many places not everywhere. It's not as bad as it once was But it's still selling out in a lot of areas still leading in the MPD So it feels weird of why would they lower the price as Eric said? They're trying to get rid of the damn thing They're still making them. They're not done producing them, but I said after this holiday I don't think they're making any more of the base model switches And less unless they run into a major issue in production with all in and even then We heard one of the reasons that they were going to OLED was because of a deal They made with Samsung who was sitting on millions and millions of these old ed panels that nobody uses anymore because they moved on to flexible panels Right, so they got a deal on already existing panels and technically the switch the switch uses all the same internals Mm-hmm. It's just the panel obviously then add the little update to the dock and all that So that's obviously new new and different boards, but it does streamline their production to eliminate Any differences that exist between models that are basically the same thing with a different screen, right? So it actually makes sense to tighten production lines and just go with switch all that moving forward So again, it's gonna feel weird this holiday if this happens It's gonna sound good at first 250 bucks for a switch. It's only $50 more than a switch light They're obviously gonna lower the price of switch light to maybe yeah I don't know maybe switch like price cuts are finally coming like we got with the Nintendo 2DS According to that the light and the OLED are gonna stay the same price. Yes, but yes Yeah, that's that's for a couple weeks from now and it's waiting for the direct to happen Yeah, now set up the direct. I have no idea. Yeah, all I know is to me. This is a very interesting prospect Because this really just supports exactly what I've been saying this whole time at some point next year They're done making the space model the current switch all that will drop by 50 bucks and be 300 And then we can start looking forward to what what's gonna replace the more expensive version And that's what we start talking about the pro or a new gen switch Maybe in 2023 potentially next year because 3ds had 3ds XL and then they did the new 3ds a year later But obviously we all know about the production issues Yeah, but then maybe the production issues go away if you're not making three separate models And you're only making two So if they can produce enough now to make three when they get rid of one of those three Then at least room for them to add a third in again So that could be why they're doing this as well Whatever the case might be it does appear at least according to nintendo alerts that next week We are going to get a price drop whether or not it actually happens exactly on that monday that I don't know That's what they're claiming they could actually hold it until they have a direct and then announce it at the direct And then drop it that week So say there's a nintendo direct next tuesday monday thursday they could wait till then and then drop the price that same day So it might not happen exactly on that monday, although but that is what they're claiming Yeah, the monday tuesday type thing because that thirteenth 14th time range. Isn't that one the normal kind of the time frame of when the uh Well, so september 13th or earlier september 13th and earlier has been when they have done nintendo directs They haven't really done one on a monday and thirteenth is a monday, right? So 14th and the last i think the last two or three directs have happened on wednesday So who really knows basically tuesday wednesday thursday out of the days friday is a no no right because friday is saturday in japan Um, you could say well, then they could do it on monday They could um, that's definitely not out of the possibility But they've never really announced the direct on a sunday before But again, this is the new nintendo who the hell knows maybe there will be a direct on monday Maybe there won't be a direct at all next week. I have no idea. They could just drop the price They don't need a direct to drop the price no Literally they could just do twitter announcements. Hey new price heading into the holiday season for nintendo switch Now are they going to change the price of the bundled version with mario kart? No, probably not The promise they're going to charge you $2.99, but you'll be able to buy a normal switch for $2.49 I think the only thing that's really hurt by this is Obviously it does make switch all that look massively overpriced Yes, yes it does and switch all that already feels overpriced given the changes and obviously the fact that esteemed x only $50 more A playstation 5 digital version is only $50 more an xbox series s is already $300 So it's even cheaper So it already felt a little bit overpriced, but it also felt like while nintendo's selling out at 300 So this one's better. They're gonna sell for more. It makes sense. Yeah, this does make me wonder I don't think it's gonna happen But do you think it's possible that if next week they announced 250 That by the time brilliant diamond and shiny pro come out in november they actually got price of old led 2 down to 300 And it come if I remember it it comes out in early november, right? Uh, pokemon shiny. No, the old led. Oh, that comes on october 8th, october. Okay less than four weeks Same day as metroid. Okay, right. Right. Now that would piss off a lot of early adopters Yes, but they did this with 3ds and then they gave us the ambassador program Which gave us some free games and stuff Maybe what I can see happening is they're them running a like a holiday deal that just never goes away So they lower the price for the holidays Oh, say it's a holiday sale, but then they just it just they just imagine it doesn't worry up That would be interesting. They say a special for the holiday 299 switch old led, but then They just keep it there and they never apologize for it. Yeah, right. I mean I mean Could I see nintendo doing that? Yes. Have they is there a history of them doing that? There's a history in general of consumer electronics doing that sale for the holidays But then they keep the sale price after the holidays Um, so it's interesting. It's a sale. I swear. I feel like this kind of lends credence to A little bit like like cutting the price of the switch and trying to prioritize the OLED and then pushing the OLED back down with the 299 Eventually, I probably at some point next year, but even if it's a special sale for the holiday I look at this as This actually makes sense in context to a different topic we had for today And that was the lack of hype around the switch OLED Now sure some of us keep talking about switch OLED now and then but you know, there really isn't much more we Like what can I tell you about switch low other than hey, we're giving one away So subscribe to the channel. That's how you enter the win one will have a stream in early october to announce it Um, so yeah, I can tell you that but outside of like talking about my giveaway I have no really real reason to bring up switch OLED until it's in my hands Because nintendo hasn't given us a reason to talk about it because I think when they showed it to us That's it. There's nothing else There's nothing we know everything we need to know about it because the only thing We definitively aren't sure of is how good do the games look on it? And that's very hard to portray in a video Which I'm going to attempt to portray it to you guys Might even try to record an HDR so you can get the full true effect You know because you I'll have I'll have a light a normal one and I'll have them all with the same games You know right in front of you so you can see what it looks like on camera But that still looks different in person so I'll try my best to show you As close to in person as I can but Nintendo hasn't even done that and I feel like that's the least they could do is show side by side or something Yeah, um, you know off can't you know not not direct feed obviously because that's gonna look the same but off You know off camera, but whatever nintendo hasn't done that and maybe they're leaving that to the media Yeah, but nintendo hasn't even talked about it since then it's coming it's comes out in like three and a half weeks and they haven't even Mentioned it since then it Which we're getting metroid dread updates like every day which then leads me to which comes up the same day Which then leads me to we're having a direct soon and then once the direct says it's gonna be just you're gonna be so sick of olad But what are they gonna do? I kept thinking if i'm nintendo and I gotta market this thing How do I market it? We told you everything and I can't show you what the differences are you just have to see it So how do we market it? I don't really know the only thing I can think of is and this is something that I wish they would do Maybe they will maybe this will be announced that are right. They need to bundle metroid dread Ooh, that would be interesting the white olad. That would be interesting. They need to have a metroid dread bundle They do that that gives you all the reason in the world to push that olad comes out the same day And they honestly should be using metroid dread to remind people. Oh, yeah, same day Like like I know they're trying to tell you that white olad is not a metroid dread olad I'm sorry. No, it's a metroid. It's a metroid. They should just not even hide it anymore Even if they're not gonna bundle the game with it just say screw it throw a metroid dread on the box Throw a hot ass metroid logo on that sick white dog and call it a day You don't even have to do anything special Even though I would love for you to and just say boom special edition metroid dread switch olad day one That gives you all the reason in the world to advertise that switch olad releases that day But they haven't done that So I feel like maybe they haven't done it because one Nintendo knows after the Do we call it outrage backlash feedback on it not being a switch pro that maybe Nintendo is like oopsies Maybe we should have made this thing the more powerful one, but we didn't so people aren't excited for it And that's why we can't sell out in pre-orders in some countries like the UK is currently not sold out in pre-orders Um, so I I do think though that Nintendo knows what they're doing in so much that switch olad doesn't ruin the popularity of switch Just like the 2ds the wedge 2ds that nobody bought didn't really ruin the popularity of 3ds, right? That could affect sales, right? So I think what Nintendo has been planning this whole time as I said is this is just like a version 3 Nintendo switch and there's just enough changes that they can't just slip it in there and not say anything like Version 2 Nintendo switched the red box switch. They barely said anything about it They just kind of slipped it out there because it's pretty much the exact same platform a slightly better battery life This one's got a completely different kickstand. It's got completely different color, you know a white one It's got an ethernet port and it's got a bigger brighter more vibrant screen It's enough changes that they can't just be like. Oh, yeah, this is just version 3 switch. Have a good No, they gotta mention that this is a different switch But I think that this kind of the lack of hype and the lack of Nintendo pushing it is because Eventually, this is just going to be your base model. They don't have to push it It's just going to be you want a Nintendo switch and you don't want the light you want with a dock That's the one you buy, right? Yeah, because there won't be any other options and that so the price drop the fact that Nintendo's not really talking about switch You know the switch olad despite it coming out really soon not giving us a reason to be super excited about it Anyways, um It's one of those it all kind of makes sense if they're just trying to slip it in as version 3 The only thing was obviously the price And it would be cool if like nintendo did decide After like costimed deck was announced after yeah If nintendo saw that then they'll saw how fans are reacting and said, you know what before launch We're even going to knock the price of switch over the 300 Nintendo's not going to do that by the way, but it would be really cool Like that you want to talk about a pro consumer move Oh, we're we're dropping the price of everything by 50 switch lights 150 Switch oji switch is 250 and this is going to be coming in at the 299 I think people would would really really take to that. Oh, yeah, they would still argue switch all that's not worth 50 dollars more than the base switch, but I mean 50 bucks say just 50 bucks say it's still better than You know 350. Yes. So so Well, I don't think nintendo is lowering the price of switch all that they might not lower it at all this year I think that's the next year thing It's a hundred dollar price difference to me would be pretty steep Reality is we'll just buy the base switch for 250 then they're still gonna be around. Yeah, at least for this holiday. So We already own switches. Yes. Okay. I'm getting the old led just because I'm a youtuber and this is what I do Otherwise, I personally probably wouldn't buy one Um, but because I do this youtube channel I am and we're giving one away and I want to do a comparison video got to have it on hand. So Here's the thing Even when they lower the price. I mean for me as a current consumer. I really don't care What's the matter to me lower the price? Great The only thing you worry about, you know, if you have like a launch switch like you was Oh, maybe the battery doesn't last that long about now. That's okay. We can replace the batteries. Yeah, so I think that um, this is just If they lower the price, I think it's a smart move Because one obviously they have their competitors launching new systems in the last year Um, starting to make the switch price maybe look a little bit more expensive Plus this text from 2015 it launched in 2017 going four or five years old Um, it's probably time for a price cut and I and I feel like even though Sales are close to selling out now. There's still not selling out right now Well, everyone else is cut the price holidays keep that price cut You could actually keep your sales really really high I feel like it's almost the right time basically to do a price cut Because it's always a conversation with nintendo when's the right time right? Well, it's still selling so well and it will sell even better at $50 less. Yes, it will Yeah, you know if there's people on the fence this holiday. Oh, man Do I sit there and hit refresh and try to grab a playstation 5? You know with a copy of uh, Of I don't even a ratcheting clank or something like for my kid. Do I try to do that? Or or do I walk into walmart for 250 bucks? Grab them a switch with a copy of mario party or something For significantly cheaper than just the cost of a playstation, right? I don't I think that's an interesting conundrum and I think nintendo When because I think nintendo thinks and I think this is probably a safe bet That some of the other platforms will be in stores for the holidays Like right now when you go into most walmarts, you'll see switches. You're not going to see xboxes or playstations But I think nintendo's of the mind that that's going to change this holiday Especially for the xbox series s I think the xbox series s is going to be massively stocked during the holiday period People walk in and see that and they see all their new games. You can get for the halo Yeah, and then it's sitting next to a switch that everyone knows and has knows been around for a while But it's not the new thing on the block anymore and it costs the same price No, it doesn't 200 250 50 dollars cheaper I think there's just a mind game nintendo wants to play this holiday to remind people. Yeah, we got some cool games But also We're also the cheapest boy on the block because right now they're not They're tied with xbox the cheapest on the block and the old ads are more expensive Which is crazy So if nintendo wants to keep their price advantage This would make a lot of sense It didn't make sense last holiday One of those systems launched because the systems were new they were out of stock and nintendo couldn't even stock their own platform So it did but now that nintendo is catching up with stock it does kind of make sense So I don't know. Yeah, no, no you're you're not wrong And do you think because I think if I remember at walmart stopped like in in-store stock of both playstation and um xbox, didn't they They've never had them in stock in person Okay, you think they're gonna if they can actually get them in in them I think xbox will be in store this holiday. Yeah with the ad I don't I don't know about sony yet Yeah, um, I would like to because xbox has been in storing game stops already Now it sells out the same day, but they've been in store So I do think that xbox will be in store I I mean, I presume they're gonna sell out. I have no idea. Maybe the s will be available for a little bit longer But the series x for sure will probably sell out um So I don't know if sony's planning to be actually in stores um But I mean if they are Just think about what it looks like xbox series s at 300 OLED at 350 and then a playstation 5 the lowest model at 400 It's just gonna make the switch not look like a great value right, but then when you consider Oh, but you know you get the light. Oh, yeah, we know what the light is the kitty one, right? What if I'm an adult and I want oh 250. Yeah, right, right. Okay. Okay 150 cheaper than a playstation 5 All right, that's I mean that's tempting And it's got mario. That's kind of cool Zelda I mean shimmer got with 10 say 5 for those excited for like it. Yeah. Yeah, it's got games. It's got games. It's got a library See sony's got promises Xbox has got promises. Well xbox will actually have halo this holiday. So that'll be good for them At least have the multiplayer out So they'll have that this holiday But for the most part for sony it's promises and for the most part for xbox's promises the switch is going Yeah, we got these games next year, but look at this massive library We already have you see you see in all these games You've seen all these you know animal crossing new horizons of 30 plus million you've seen that you've seen that bad boy this holiday I mean and I wonder if this is also if nintendo does lower the price Is this when they finally start the nintendo selects line? Hmm For those who don't know nintendo selects is something nintendo always starts late not always But they sense like the wee days has started late in a console's life cycle Usually year five Where they take some of the best sellers and they start to call them nintendo selects and they charge for 20 bucks Very nice. I mean we all want nintendo to drop prices. We obviously they never do technically they do eventually nintendo selects And it's a big drop going from msrp on breath of the wild with 5999 dropping to 1999 the massive drop Yes But it's also because they think they can get a nice boost in sales doing that so No, I would I would agree. I mean if they're ready to start dropping prices, why stop with the system? Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, no, that's my thought why stop with the system that would pair well Yeah, I think you're right So again, I don't know if they're going to do that yet because also once the nintendo selects start start We can start counting down the final days of the platform And I still think switch is probably going to be here at least through 2023 I don't think a replacement's going to come until 2024 unless Somehow the switch pro is real and that comes next year or in 2023 thing. I have no idea how long this generation is going to last It could be around another six years for all I know Yeah, right, but presumably the switch pro doesn't happen I think 2024 is like the absolute latest a new gen nintendo platform launches. So We'll have to wait and see um Yeah, got got any final thoughts on the price cuts or You know, maybe the lack of hype surrounding like the OLED I think a lot of it like you had said earlier is the fact that We had that build up and kind of let down And so I think a lot of the the hype kind of the the balloon popped and the air just kind of went So um I think a lot that's the kind of the hype lost on it is is kind of where I was at. It's not bad Probably could have been better probably should have been better You know, so that's kind of I think where that's at Um price cut. I think it's a smart move. Hopefully it happens, but uh Yeah, no, it's it's It's all about the sales. It's all about the money Money money money money All right, um So while we're waiting for a nintendo direct, which I think we still think is happening this month At least at some point if not next week the week after it doesn't happen this month That would actually be kind of surprising concerning the history of nintendo But then that probably starts to go in early october medium before metro Before oleg comes all right. Maybe they'll actually remind us. It's going. Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way Oh, it's coming up by the way. Um, so anyways, we're presumed there'll be one this month if there isn't that sucks But what we did have today was the playstation showcase Um, this was basically their big showcase for the whole year Um, they've been trying to spread it out like nintendo directs and have multiple of them with the last few haven't really been great It really felt like they were banking everything up for one big Showcase because it used to be they would do it at e3 and they would let you know about their next three years of games But since they're not at e3 anymore We didn't really know when this was coming in and arrived It was 40 minutes long and they basically laid out their roadmap for the next two to three years Um, which is what sony does and it's drastically different than the way nintendo approaches it They usually give you what's coming in the next six months and then a tease of like one or two things for next year They don't give you the next two years the next three years Sony likes to just tell you everything even if they have hardly anything to show Example they announced wolverine today made by insomniac the same people making the spider-man games All we saw was a quick little CGI in a bar with with him getting out the claws and that was it We're probably not gonna actually look good. We're probably not gonna actually see that game for two years. Yeah like Actual gameplay, but this is what sony does And they've been doing it now pretty much they imagine the playstation 3 even when they were at e3 Is they just tease out years ahead of time? Um, and I there's two things I want to talk about with this Well, we'll get to react to the games that were shown and all that because obviously that's what's most important Right, um, but there's a few conversations around this because I made a bit of a controversial tweet. Oh boy A bit of a controversial tweet because I watched the playstation showcase after the fact, right? Okay, I watched it after it happened. I was busy with my kids it was a bad time for that but I watched it after the fact and I'm sitting there watching it and I'm not sitting there thinking oh, I'm gonna buy this or oh, I'm gonna buy that Or oh, you know, this is my day one or oh, this is gonna make me pick up a playstation 5 again I really wasn't thinking any of that because bottom line is I am a nintendo guy I am biased to nintendo things like Metroid Dread things like mario party things like a mario kart things like breath of the wild 2 Splatoon 3 um pokemon legends arceus all of these things excite me a hell of a lot more than pretty much anything Sony could show me they could literally show me somehow they bought You know banjo kazooie from microsoft and here's a brand new banjo kazooie game and as exciting as that would be It's still to me would not be as exciting as all these nintendo games. That would be amazing Now again, I am biased and I know that i'm biased to nintendo I'm very consciously aware of my bias and maybe that leads to some overcorrection in the other direction But that rhymed. Nice. I didn't mean for that was that was Real smooth. I liked it. That was that was uh, but My thing is Is that I went into the show Expecting it to be a pretty big show because sony We really didn't know what the hell was happening. We haven't heard about any other games pretty much since last year So I was like, you know, they delayed their biggest one So I expected to be a big show and they showed a lot of games um, and In my just looking at it from the outside looking in as someone that isn't really interested in these games I tried to judge all of these digital showcases be at at e3 whether it's microsoft nintendo Obviously with nintendo I get a little over the excited for games But then I sit back and reflect after I think was it actually a good show And like when I think back to the nintendo direct that happened at e3 Or I guess what they called it the e3 presentation or showcase or whatever The thing is yeah, I have breath of the wild too. That was that was sweet. Have metro dread that was sweet Sure, I was happy about advanced forward one plus two reboot camp. But again, that's just like a remastering game Um, you know another mario party game that we hope is going to be good That we hope the last one would be good Wario where that's cool. But like you start looking through that ready So to realize okay, it's metro dread and breath of the wild too Like those are really the two announcements that I actually remember and cared about Which meant there was really only two games out of that entire showcase that excited me Um, or which made me realize okay, and I'm heavily biased to zeldas anytime breath of the wild is present Right, it's like the best thing ever but I as I reflect back. It's kind of like Yeah, but most the show sucked and I can't forget the disappointment of the 35th anniversary of zelda only having that game and watch Like it honestly wasn't a fantastic showing for nintendo I think they really banged on metro dread and then obviously ending with breath of the wild too And they thought that would be good enough and honestly it was fine. It wasn't a horrible show. It's just You know, it could be better. It did help that Everything else. Well, everybody else it needs to suck too. So it was kind of like a hey, you know what In comparison this thing was like We're seeing games 100 better or a million percent better than what the rest of the war is so I went back and I watched it today and I realized, you know what? It was just all right It was just all right. Oh boy It was just fine I think in general if we're all honest as nintendo fans most nintendo directs. They're just all right I don't really think any of them are bad Some people do think there's actually bad directs. I don't I personally am not on the any of the directs are bad But I am on the most of them are just all right I think my favorite one happened back in 2014 and that was a hell of a long time ago. So like Most of the time nintendo directs are just all right And it is hype when we got like the one earlier this year when they announced between three awesome great But like the do you even remember what else they talked about in that direct once between three? I don't know Because most of it wasn't that memorable So I go into watching this this showcase And I start to think to myself, okay you know Let's see what sony's got, you know, are they going to convince me to buy and if they don't convince me to buy I can know I at least take an objective outside look at their showcase and go. Those are some high quality games now Obviously like they got a war ragnarok there and they had actual gameplay of that one there So can't you can't hold the CGI argument against that one. Um, so they had that game there Okay, that's a pretty big game for sony fans. That's that's equivalent of zelda. That's equivalent of mario That's a huge game Look pretty good. All right, they announced marvel spider-man 2 which again didn't necessarily have gameplay Was more of a CGI that that was it said on there from the playstation 5. Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't Yeah, spider-man the worst action gameplay. You're right. You're right. Sorry. It's it's it's Yeah, it's made by insomniac who just did miles morales last year and obviously the spider-man game a few years ago Of the fact that they're bringing my miles morales into this game. Well, they have a whole game for miles. Yeah, but anyway So and the prior two spider-mans were amazing. So This this let's let's make this akin to Band of threes unveiling remember band of three back at the game awards It was just a CGI Showing of her laying her light kicking around and shooting bullets That's what we got and we got super excitable band of three and we didn't Criticize Nintendo nor platinum back then for unveiling the game in that way And that's basically how they unveiled spider-man 2 So am I going to hold that against them when I wasn't doing that to nintendo? I don't think I should I don't think that's fair So spider-man 2 big announcement. Yeah, look good. Um, I mean, it's got venom that obviously excites the people Bottom line is we have a precedent that the last ones are really good. So this one will probably be really good All right star wars nights of the old republic remake this one was interesting because there was no gameplay So the entire premise is us just knowing the original was great This to me was one of the weaker announcements in the showcase. It was more of a this game exists. Yeah But we're not gonna show you anything. It was just a CGI light lightsaber light up thing. Okay. What does that remind me of? Oh, remember what metroid prime 4 Was announced back in 2017 And it was just a logo. I was gonna say that's even worse It was just a logo Did we criticize nintendo back then for just showing us a logo or were we just happy that nintendo confirmed We were getting another metroid prime game Especially since obviously the last one was i know we have criticized them Going forward because it's been so long that they haven't shown it now on hindsight. It looks like a bad thing but nintendo did just give us that and What are we more excited about what this game will is or what it could be based on what it used to be Well, we're excited for metroid prime 4 based on what metroid prime 1 2 and 3 were We're excited for cotar or people who are excited for cotar remake or whatever Are excited based on the fact that the original game was amazing We know just about the same about both of them except that cotar actually was a real game at one point metroid prime 4 His question Yeah, so I can't fault sony fast for first seeing this as a solid announcement I looked at it objectively and I went all right. I mean compared to nintendo announcement That's not bad. All right, cool. Cool. Um wolverine again wolverine is another metroid prime 4 style announcement Um bayonetta 3 style announcement. I get it Um We'll have to wait and see some people like it some people don't to me This wasn't necessarily a major announcement But this was a nice hey this thing exists We'll have to wait and see right because there's no precedent for that other than oh insomnia It's making it but yeah, but we don't have a wolverine game for precedent here So right like we have spider-man games or we know what to expect This we don't know we think the developer will do a good job. So this is to me one of the weaker announcements So i'm like, okay, but hey, it's nice to know what exists. Okay, cool. Um, then you know the show games project eve Project eve they showed a lot of gameplay looked very good That looked like a high quality game. I didn't see that one. But yeah, tiny Tina's wonderland Technically a third party game coming to multi platforms But it looked fantastic back at the game or not the game with the summer gamefest and it looks even better now I love me some tiny Tina. I'm not one to knock a show for having third party games in it We praise when third party games appear in center directs. Oh man. We're good. Like there's a shock We're getting diablo 2 remastered. Okay Okay, is it shocking it shouldn't be anymore octopath. You got prior trick triangle strategy But yeah, they'll start off as exclusives a little bit different. Yeah, I start off as a console exclusive Either way, I might put a knock at a good a good looking third party game being shown. Yeah, so that to me is a solid showing All right next forespoken I'm sorry. We saw real gameplay of forespoken and it looks utterly amazing This is what I was talking about by the way when I said when you want to bring in female heroes We start something new don't take old and shove it in there Leave the the hero of zelda as link leave the hero of mario as mario even though we've had playable peach a few times Leave those games in their iconic roles and start a new one and that's what forespoken is doing And oh my god, did it look amazing? I'm sorry that to me is a That's a clap of a moment. Nice. I was excited by that game Don't know if I'll ever play it, but damn could I admit it looks like a pretty high quality video game? All right, now we get into some remasters Uncharted 4 thief said lost legacy, etc. We got some remasters coming. Okay, cool. I mean Can we complain as nintendo fans? How many times have we just gotten remasters? Is it ever a chronicle definitive edition etc, etc like Mario 35 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I'm just saying Okay, like this is fine. This is gonna happen every generation All right, we got another look at rainbow six Uh extraction Okay, another high quality third party game some people think we've seen too much of it But hey, it is a game coming out soon. So it looks like a good game I'm wondering what I'm not gonna lie to you. It actually looks like a good game I mean rainbow six is a decent franchise So alan wake remaster, which was technically already leaked. Um, I think a few days ago But hey, we got to see it in action We get to see it's coming October 5th Again, another high quality third party game Grand Theft Auto 5 finally getting a look at that in its remastered version Cool. Some people will say we don't care about gta 5. Yeah So it's delayed like Okay, you don't have to care about gta 5 with 100 million people playing it do I mean, I'm I just said I just told you earlier Hey, now I can actually play gta 5 because I got my xbox. I'm getting my xbox next weekend So because he didn't have the old gen platforms, but I'm gonna have to wait it is delayed. So it's well actually Yeah, yep. Yeah, they showed off Gran Turismo 7 again and gave us a release date That's cool. GT is really good. It's a good franchise. I know it's a good franchise. It's not a game I'm interested in But I could watch that gameplay. I could watch the trailer and go, you know what? That's a good game Okay Um, we got to see the titia Oh This was kind of there We need to mix up the show because we've had a lot of violent game show We need something that's different and this is probably the most nintendo-like game they showed And I got to admit I'm glad it's coming out on pc because i'm buying it Freakin looks As long as it holds up to that gameplay trailer and it was a gameplay trailer It looks really damn good. This is the kind of game that if this was a switch console exclusive We would be raving about it as nintendo fans. Yes, because it's on sony No, you can't you can't give that game credit. I gotta wipe my butt with it. Yeah, I can't this game can't get the credit It deserves as nintendo. So I'm looking at that right and and the list goes on and on and on right We got a new ghost fire tokyo trailer looks really really good Um, you know, we got a new look at marvel guardians of the galaxy Which I get that we had a really long play session of that thing at e3 So some people didn't really want to see it again But it is a high quality third party game coming out soon also coming to nintendo switch. So Even though it's a streaming one right, we got another look at death loop, which I know some people are like Can we stop seeing death loop the game comes out next week? Yeah You do you expect them not to remind people right so like I don't even buy that that would be like a sin Do we really need to look at it? It's like if the nintendo direct dropped at the end of september and they show metroid dread Do we really need to see metroid dread again? They've been talking about it every week. Yeah Well, but they're gonna remind you it's coming out We just crapped a nintendo for not reminding us about the OLED so I mean I'm not gonna complain about the prior marketing for this game when the game's about to come out They got to remind you right in the big show Then they had um free to play vampire the masquerade blood hunt was showed Um, and they had radiohead never games. He's a mysterious collaboration About some sort of kid amnesia exhibition, but we didn't really get to see a lot about that The show did start really weird. Uh, the first five minutes I will admit were kind of like what the hell is going on It was like this chess match But it wasn't I kept thinking the whole time like is this going to turn into a game? It kind of looks like that's badass and it wasn't it was just some really long five-minute ad for the play stations Like catchphrase I'm trying to say Verizon 5g Verizon 5g it pretty much what it was their Verizon 5g moment. It was the whole Yeah play is unlimited like But nothing you showed was game Anything I mean chess is a game. I suppose. Yeah, but there probably is a chess game on playstation 5 There is one on switch to several of them, but I mean That wasn't it was a really long it felt like a commercial For uh for playstation 5 that overstated it's welcomed by four and a half minutes It could have just been like a 30 second. It was really cool They had like kings and these towers and these people were fighting It was all this really, you know, I captured your queen and you showed like the police arrest Like it was a cool thing, but it never led to anything that mattered except that play is unlimited Yeah, actually speaking that part that part was a waste of time. So it should have been 35 minutes. Okay, not That and then towards the end of the show they did some additional post show stuff where they had Um some developer interviews on some of the games and I'm cool with that That's like the Nintendo Treehouse style stuff. I'm that that that's nice That's kind of in addition to not really part of the main presentation So After going through that list of stuff and just thinking about this From the viewpoint of not someone who's so biased that it didn't matter what they showed I'm more excited for nintendo games, but just looking at it from How many quality games were shown off and then looking back at the last handful of directs and rewatching them and going through and Realizing how many of those directs that I just fall asleep during Where in this my eyes were going wide on every new game that showed And they made me realize This presentation Might be Probably is Better than any direct I've ever seen Now the caveat obviously is CGI this CGI that and I understand the CGI complaints I get that And I'm there for you But sony did this the entire last generation gave a CGI trailer after CGI trailer and announced things years ahead of time And then those games came out And they ended up actually being pretty damn good games So look, I'm not saying I like CGI. I would prefer gameplay of course But CGI has not been a precursor with sony exclusives To bad games Unlike things with ubisoft where sometimes they'll do CGI and then the game can't live up to the CGI and it's just You know or cyberpunk. We Do even want to go down there. We actually saw gameplay from cyberpunk and it still was a lie in a shit show so But even seeing gameplay doesn't necessarily mean because I think what people forget And and this is this goes for CGI. This goes for gameplay. This goes for trailers. This goes for hands-on previews Everything leading to a game's launch is marketing. Oh, yeah, and they focus on whatever look the best show So right now they might not have any gameplay to show for for the wolverine game But they want to let you know it exists. They could have just threw a logo up with marvel They decided hey, let's give you this cute little CGI thing You're not going to see the game for two years, but when you do see it You know, it's probably going to look good probably. I don't know. Yeah Based on this presentation. I would assume it's going to look good But we'll see the point is I kept looking at it and I'm like nintendo's never had a direct like this The only thing they could do to compete Directly would be if nintendo decides to just tell us all the games they're doing the next two years and put it in a single Direct and nintendo's never done that And so since nintendo doesn't do that they do let us know years ahead of time That's why we know what bayonetta 3 that's why we know what metro prime 4 heck We knew about super smash rules for wii u and 3ds before it even started development They told us they announced it at e3 And they hadn't even started developing yet. That's like when we talk about nintendo They do sometimes announce games Years ahead of time Breath of the wild notes of 2014 came out in 27 I'm just saying a grant that wasn't the plan and some of that had to do with wii u flopping But the point is that like nintendo does sometimes announce things Years in advance knowingly years in advance when they announced metro prime 4 They knew that game was two three years off. They knew it and that was before they knew that we're going to reboot it So Point is nintendo sometimes does it once in a while Sony does it all the time. You'll know everything coming to sony years before they come out That's their approach So I went to this presentation. I thought you know what this is better than any direct I've ever seen Now future sony presentations won't be Because the surprises are gone We know what the games are going to be Yeah, seeing gameplay is going to be great and that's going to be hype It's going to be exciting But it's also going to be there's not going to be a lot of new things announced because we already know a lot of the new things So we're not going to get another presentation like this. I don't think for a while right next year You know I I mean for years because they gave us all the games coming out all the way through 2023 Oh, geez so like we're going to see those games again Yeah, we're going to see wolverine eventually and spider-man too, but We're not going to get a big presentation given us three years advance notice on things until they get past all the current games So Yeah, to me, this was better than a drive. I think my exact words are um Sony's presentation did it destroyed any Nintendo director I've ever seen I've not seen every single one of them And that just you just said that to be controversial. No, it's how I feel Yeah, that's Setting my bias for nintendo aside. I am not a lesser nintendo fan because I'm excited right for sony stuff It's that I think sony you're a gamer. I mean you're a gamer. I'm a gamer first. Yeah, right Bottom line, you said I'm a gamer first. I'm not just a nintendo guy I'm a gamer first and I could admit sony had a really great show today. Yeah better than any direct I can even remember Now you may be my memory is bad, but It's my thought today. This does not mean that nintendo is doing shit. This is not of a Referendum on nintendo's upcoming lineup. This is not a referendum on 2022 How many times have we told you guys how I think the lineup the rest of this year is solid and that nintendo's Already based on what we know crushing it in 2022. Yeah, how many times have I said that? So like why do I need to remind people that I still think that? Just because I thought sony crushed it today better than nintendo ever has It still doesn't give you anything to play on your playstation 5 today Yeah, you're not so like I don't Yeah, I don't understand why people get so angry Thinking i'm trying to get outraged by saying oh this destroyed an indra. Look i'm gonna make comparisons because When I watch microsoft's events They're what do they call them some uh state of plays are uh, sony microsoft is xbox insider So like when I watch the digital events as a nintendo guy, what do you naturally compare them to the digital events? You watch all the time which are nintendo. So it's natural for me to compare it to nintendo It's not something done to spite nintendo or draw a controversy. It's me saying Hey, I actually think this this is my raw and honest thoughts if people want to disagree. It's fine Yeah, but I also find a lot of the people that disagree Not everyone but a lot of the people that disagree I think either are pushing a console wars narrative based on some of the comments Or which we all know i'm not done console wars are a thing. They're stupid, but they are a thing As you said i'm a gamer first. Yeah, but also I do think there is something to be said for um People not Being able to be like me and I should be more understanding of this Most people can't set aside their bias and personal preferences to appreciate other things that people are going to enjoy Yeah, I can set aside all of my love for nintendo and look at almost objectively look at sony show and go This was a really damn good show. I might not play any of those games That has nothing to do with whether or not I thought it was a good show And I'm not saying you're wrong for using your personal preferences to determine what's a good show But I also think this is why so many people think there's been so many bad Nintendo directs because it didn't have anything that you liked right in it Right, but does that mean it was actually a bad show? I don't think so. That's why I don't think there's ever been a bad direct What's the point of the direct to show you new games? Every direct has new games just because they're not the games you want It doesn't make it a bad show, but people are always in this thing I can't get behind the sony show because it wasn't a bunch of games. I want to play Well, yeah, if you're a nintendo fan, they're not even coming to your platform Yeah, so that's yeah, that's I I just I just maybe I need to be more understanding that in general People can't set aside their personal preferences to attempt to look at things objectively Um, and honestly, there's always that conversation is objective. That's even real. How can any of us not have any biases? No, no, if people see him like, you know, some people that they're like, oh, yeah You're starting to become sony prime. Look, I sold my PlayStation 5 I don't even have a sony platform in my house right now I smashed a PlayStation 3 with a hammer the only other platform I had on live stream last year Like I literally don't play games on sony platforms I probably will pick up a PlayStation 5 again eventually because yeah, some of the games did look interesting But I'm not going to be avidly playing it like I do switch and I know that because I owned it for months And I didn't I avidly was still playing switch occasionally xbox so My whole thing is I think they put on a hell of a show It didn't really make me want to buy a PlayStation 5 But I could still look at these games and admit they're pretty high quality experiences If they look to be we'll see if they are when they come out. Obviously, we don't know till they come out And I don't take back my words on twitter about it destroying all nintendo directs because Nintendo and sony approach things differently and the way that sony approaches things is going to lead to them Having a massive show like this in a way that nintendo never will because nintendo doesn't do it that way That doesn't make what nintendo does wrong Where they focus more so on the here and now it's just different I mean here's the other thing. I just I like okay I'm not gonna say I like things announced two years in advance, but I will say I like things being announced But here's the thing too then If we if they announce more In one go You get less direction a year Do you want more directs or do you want a bigger direct? Yes, like imagine that breast of the wild two is platoon three um Metroid dread Uh, let's see. I think with more with more small like all the big games that we've had announced for switch over the last year We're instead in one direct Would you prefer that over it being split up? I don't know right? We've never I would say probably won't if they did put it all in one It'd be the best direct of all time 100 and I'd be saying this and nobody would probably argue with me on that They'd all agree it's the best direct ever made because I had the most big announcements in it And that's what I'm saying with sony There were so many big announcements in this even if some of them were years up. I can't just look at it and go Oh, yeah, it's not even as good as the last nintendo direct No, yeah for me personally there's games. I enjoy more out of the last nintendo event That doesn't objectively make it a better event. It means my bias leans towards nintendo right, but I can still like look over my shoulder and go And that was that was wow and obviously I've never seen that from nintendo We've never gotten a show like that right and obviously nintendo Knows what it's doing. It's what it's doing is working for them So why would they change what you know working for them and go to what's working for a competitor fans forget because we get directs back this year Think back to last year. How many of you guys were raging over partner showcase directs? I'm so angry. I'm so this never mind They were still in our stage of calamity and made the 35th anniversary of mario And we had animal crossing last year and like I'm not saying last year was a great year for nintendo But what I am saying is that hey, they still found a way to announce games anyways without directs And then you got mad over the third party partner showcase directs And it's like but nintendo is just using directs what they've always used them for Advertising upcoming games. They didn't have any of their own upcoming games. So they use it to advertise third parties Yeah, yeah, and I think the way the nintendo does it too also allows More individual games to shine And get its own spotlight So because like breath of the wild games get a lot a lot bigger spotlight to breath of the wild two splatoon three Uh, you know, the couple ones that you mentioned before if all those were in one direct I mean, yeah, that'd be amazing, but You know breath of the wild two would probably overshadow Possibly overshadowed splatoon, which might overshadow something else Which might overshadow something else. I don't think that would happen. I think what gets overshadowed when you do that is wario air yeah mario party Advance force one plus two reboot which also people all of these games all of these games Don't get overshadowed because there's not so many big games shown off in every direct So it actually allows them more time to shine And that's nintendo's approach because they release more games than sony does That's just a fact they just do nothing wrong with that But nintendo wants all those games to do as best as they can so it wouldn't make sense to just Pile all these big announcements and then try to slip wario air and other things in between because people are gonna forget all Who cares about wario wear coming out, you know or just came out who cares about wario wear Or about to come out comes out tomorrow. Who cares about wario air because hey I just saw a new trailer for toon 3 breath of the wild 2 metro prime 4 bayonetta 3 Um, you know, what else we want to throw a mario kart 9. We just saw all this stuff So the logo for metro metroid 4 mario kart 9, but it's not coming till till 2023 doesn't matter We saw some we saw cgi trailer. We saw some gameplay Let's speculate about that because that's going to be a bigger deal and sell way more copies than any of these other games And it completely overshadows them. I don't think you know, you're saying the big games overshadow each other I don't think that that's really the case. I don't think like breath of life overshadows between I think they overshadow the smaller games or if there's like skyward sword hd and then breath of the wild in the same thing Yeah, that's the same franchise overshadow may not be the correct word It it it takes away some of the hype. I think possibly just because of I think a lot more people might be more hyped for one game versus You get more you get you get the hype here and then all of a sudden in the next direct All of a sudden you get just as much hype for this game too and it's it's like So if you think if you think So if nintendo did one direct um in the way that sony just did where they give us Eight ten big big announcements big game shown Even if they're not new announcements, it's like breath of watch is not new or another look at it, right? You don't think that the reaction to it would be insanely positive and drive hype for everything Because think about it. You you would be able to blink Right, it would just be but you just get hype after hype non-stop hype like it just doesn't stop from beginning to end It's just big game after big game. Yeah, like think about how cool No, no, I get you like I like imagine we know about four big games that come next year We obviously have dread this year imagine that we found out about all those games at the same time with the hype any less We all we know about all the games now would it be any less we found out about them all at the same time Yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, no, I like it because that's what sony does. They just tell you all at once. Yeah It doesn't kill the hype doesn't kill the sales. So why would that happen for nintendo? of anything I might drive the stock prices through the freaking roof Yeah, again, I'm not saying that I actually want nintendo to do that But I am saying they take two fundamental different approaches and sony's approach Leads to once in a blue moon By the way, it's only once in a blue moon. Most of the sony's data plays are horrible horrendous and way worse than anything that nintendo shits out I'm not even kidding. I've watched all the state of plays. Most of them are just not good But this particular one means that every once in a blue moon they can have this massive one Now the next handful of state of plays probably aren't going to be that great And I know some people are upset like canon That was a big game that a lot of us were excited about comes up really soon We were hoping to see in here But you could see how that didn't fit because it would have got overshadowed by all the other big games And again, that also fits the pattern for well if this was a nintendo direct you would have saw a game like kena again Because it wouldn't have been overshadowed So again, there's positive and negatives to all the approaches My viewpoint is just looking at all of the different shows. This show had more Big games quality games in it than any other direct that's ever happened Ergo, it's the best even if it's not something That I'm personally interested in I can appreciate the quality of games And that we don't get that in nintendo directs. Yeah, no, it's we don't we don't it's just a fact We don't get that many high quality games in one directed. It just doesn't happen E3 is usually the biggest one And E3 is usually the biggest one where maybe we get three and you could argue Oh, we did get three at three at E3 depends on what you consider the three shipping. I would density fives a game We already knew about You know, uh, we have warrior wear and advanced wars were new ones But advanced wars just want a port or rebooted port or whatever like So I don't know Yeah, no, it's this isn't me that I was never Throwing shade at nintendo the me saying yeah that this thing dominated or destroyed or whatever exact word I used All prior nintendo directs wasn't me slamming nintendo. It was me saying that's just how impressive this show was What nintendo does obviously works for nintendo Yeah, and what sony does CGI trailers showing things three years in advance Clearly works for them. Look at their platforms all of them sell over 100 million units PlayStation 5 barely has anything worth playing right now And is the hottest selling platform in the world in terms of It's selling faster than any platform new platform launch has ever sold in the history of platforms It is destroying records books That is nuts and it doesn't even have like a must-own game Like sony clutely knows what they're doing nintendo with switch clearly knows what they're doing does nintendo always know what they're doing It seems like every other generation. They kind of know what they're doing Yeah, so like really it's whatever the next generation is after switch. We should really worry about they figure it out And then they forget and then they figure oh, and they're like, oh, yeah, wait a minute We remember how to do this and then they do it and then they're like, wait, what were we doing again? So i'm not going to apologize for my comments and people are looking for that I I think it's just these are my opinions My opinions that I feel are a little bit unbiased But obviously I can't ever say there's no bias and i'm just as big of a nintendo fan as I was before sony and PlayStation 5 even existed I just can't ignore when people put on a good show. I'm a gamer man. They put on a fucking good show Um that being said, what are your thoughts on the show? Were there anything in the in the show that excited you? Um, you know, I didn't actually watch the show itself. I watched a few trailers from from it. Um That uh, what the heck is that game the tea one? Um, I forgot the name of it already Um, is it that uh, what should we call it one? Yeah, that it starts with the tea Oh, it's besides tiny tina. That was awesome tiny tina. I love I love me some Are you talking about that cartoon style one three animals that the titia or whatever? Yeah, that looked oh so phenomenal That was that was a very clean looking you know Just yeah, we're coming the animals. I know I I watched um in order it was coattire uh wolverine spider-man And then it was a couple of smaller ones and then it was that one. I was like Okay, this just kicked the shit out of everything else. I just watched No, because it's the kind of game that you're into. Yeah, I mean you like the tiny tina in the waterlands Yeah, but like when you look at these other games, you're like, okay, a spider-man school. This is a school But like it's always There's something about those games and this isn't me knocking those games They are definitely ones that require a lot of dedication to play And that's fine. Like I played miles morales. I beat it. Um I didn't I didn't beat the original spider-man game, but I did beat miles morales And I you know I honestly was playing for the story the gameplay was good, but I was playing it for the story because I love spider-man I love marvel. So I'm playing it for the story Um, and that's what drove me, but I don't have time to play a lot of games like that Um, and I think that's kind of like this is like a game that you don't necessarily need to sink hundreds of hours in But you just might do it because you want to right no for sure versus other games that you kind of have to I think a part of it also is this feels like a nintendo game It it did it was the most nintendo-ish game in the whole thing like a nintendo game This does not look in or feel like it should be on a playstation 5 It was weird Not because playstation by the way. I'm well aware that playstation has games like this It's just when you look at the totality of the showcase. It's like sticks out compared to everything else. Yeah Yeah, no, that was my favorite by far of trailer slash announcement And you're like, yeah, I remember I was saying something and they're like you haven't even got to the good part of it What and then all of a sudden like three seconds. I'm like, oh Oh my god, you just became the burn. Yeah, you were all excited. Oh my god. Just wait. Just wait. Oh, you can become the animals I'm like, yeah, there it is. Yeah, there it is. There it is And I immediately was like freaking amazing. This is coming in. Oh, it's coming to pc. Oh, yeah, right epic game store Yeah, not that I'm excited about them. All right. That's all right. Yeah Epic will find a way to screw it up Cause it's like give you a free game Oh my gosh, look at all these free games I got on playstation. You mean with the paid subscription you have That's not free. You paid for it. Yeah They're just you know, it's like instead of switch online. Oh, yeah We give the free nest it's not free when you got to spend money to access it. It's paywall Just so you're aware that's not free. You're paying the subscription fee to access it You're subscribing to play those games. What cancel your subscription and then see if you can still play Free Yeah, not so much. You can only while you're subscribed um But yeah, so I don't know I don't really you know, I didn't watch it like I said I didn't watch all the stuff. I don't know but but so I can't comment on You know the flow of the show the anything like that, but the games looked phenomenal I mean, I'm excited for it and I'm like, there's part of me I think during the during the trailer. I'm like, oh crap. Now I gotta get a playstation 5 You did say that and I was like Let me get it Yeah, you got the xbox. We'll make a word of them. I said, but I need the xbox again so we can play mad and do it Damn it. Yeah, because sony won't let us have cross play. Damn it. See I'm Just because I didn't have a good show. They have really shitty cool. Yeah, Jesus fan boy. God God They have shitty cooling and they suck with cross play even today even as they allow it not everything has it anyways, um So I'm not like a sony pony over here. I'm just I can admit to it was a good show And I think it was better than any director I've ever seen But I also can admit most of their state of plays are not that great And it really felt like they were trying to copy nintendo and a lot of them are not able to do it This is one of the first ones that felt like sony just did What we usually expect them to do it in e3 Boy out And they like that's usually what they do at e3 and they did that here Yeah, good for them. Yeah, um All right, so, uh, I guess we could take some uh questions I guess from the chat here for a little bit Uh, if you guys have any topics or any questions for eric and I we could take them We meant to do this a couple podcasts ago and we ended up not uh, if I needed the time for it Uh, we got a little time now if anyone here, uh Anyone here wants to uh ask any questions in the chat Um, so you can just add nintendo prime in the chat and I will start grabbing some questions Obviously any super chats or whatever that automatically jumps to the top of the pile You guys are awesome. Thank you for showing over to thursday. I do apologize for this Yeah, that's right. That's my fault the show coming a week later He had a job application. She was filling out and all this and um, I had a guest But the guest was kind of wishy-washy with me and I said, you know what I could still get get an episode out But let's just you know If it's not working for him and the guest is kind of like yeah, I could come but there's this other thing Look go do your things I don't pay you guys to be here. Right. Go do your things. It's fine We'll push this to tomorrow and then the guests can come but that's fine. We're all good Um, so you guys got any tops want to cover? Uh, david ajil says, uh, have you seen the egg ns android switch emulator? I can officially say no because I don't pay one damn iota Of care to switch emulation. Yeah, because I don't believe that people should be emulating switch games anyways At least not in it yet. Yeah, maybe in like five ten years. Sure, right Like I don't think now while the games are readily and easily purchasable And you have access to all of them and you can easily get a switch or a switch light. I don't think people should be doing it That's my purr. I mean nes super nintendo 64 Some of this I don't care about but current platforms. I'm sorry I'm not going to pay attention to the emulation scene because I don't get two shits. Yeah Don't be doing it. It's against the law not against a lot to emulate but against the law to download ROMs And if you're honest, how many of you people that play those emulators created your ROMs yourself You can legally make them yourself. But how many of you actually did that? If you didn't if you downloaded it off the internet you committed a crime I'm not saying you should go to jail for it. I do think laws need to be updated. But also There's not really a reason to do it outside of just saying you don't want to spend the money Yeah Yeah, now you could argue. Oh, but I want to play it on a hack switch Fine play on a hack switch. You don't have to yeah emulate it to do that Right, you can hack your switch and increase the clock speeds and still use a legal copy Anyways, um I do I do want to throw one thing. I know we were we touched on Verizon for a 5g a little bit I I saw another commercial for Spectrum uh, they're 5g And again, I called it right away. I was they're like this is gonna revolutionize everything I'm like, this is a 5g commercial and it was like because it was not in that like realm when it first started I'm like, this is a 5g commercial, isn't it? Is this Verizon? No spectrum Okay, 5g still didn't tell me what it's going to do to revolutionize anything Verizon didn't tell you and spectrum just uses Verizon's towers, right? So it's the same internet, right? It's the same I'm like So I know because all I have spectrum mobile Because it is cheaper than Verizon, but it uses the same Verizon towers. So apparently 5g Just will magically do everything. Oh, yeah. Well, I I think if you have a good 5g connection things like xclab will be awesome Yeah, but what do they not tell you? Well, you got to have a pretty direct line for good 5g and that's the issue with 5g right now is it's very easy to interfere When I'm out out in the cities and I'm out at a cafe and there's a little 5g thing right outside the cafe Oh, it's awesome It's awesome. Yeah, you mean you're getting like 200 300 down 300 up. It's Yeah, but that's only while I got that direct line I get on the bus and I go down the black off some of the drug lines cut off suddenly doesn't even work and I'm back on 4g So yeah, it is great It is great When you're in the most ideal of situations. Yeah, does it make things different? I don't know. I still use my phone the same way I guess I didn't have to wait for any buffer on netflix. Oh, there you go. Yeah Like I said, you gotta wait for a buffer. I just found it really funny that two different commercials from different companies Don't tell you anything. No, that's gonna magically do everything. It's just magic. Not you know Logan the box says do you think we'll ever get a luigi's match in four? That would be awesome. Um, the match of three sold almost 10 mil. We're getting a fourth one Now will we get it will we get it this generation though? I think it's a better question Oh, yeah, man. It came out in 2019 If they do a pro version, yes I think okay, so if pro comes out and extends the life another year to your state. I think so. Yeah, okay Um, let's see here Guda gang Eli says you're the first Nintendo youtuber to be honest and say you're fanboying and there's nothing wrong with that I'm a simp for nintendo and a sony pony. Yeah, like The thing is so no my game is here's the thing I don't consider myself like you say you're fanboying I don't consider myself a fanboy because a fanboy wouldn't be able to admit they're a fanboy Right, that's like the number one thing about being a fanboy is No, they're just the best like no, I can recognize my biases and personal preferences. I know I'm well aware of it So to me um, it's not that big of a deal um, but Yeah, I know that I have bias and preferences. We all do I could just recognize mine and still appreciate other things because I enjoy games over anything else. Yeah I play games with my people. I mean, we were just playing mad the other day on my pc Like we I play games on other things. I don't just play on nintendo. I've never just played on nintendo I've always played on nintendo and pc nintendo and xbox and pc nintendo's been the nintendo's Yeah, I've always had the nintendo platform Since I was a kid, but there's always I always have other and and and I play other things Right. Um, so maybe that's why some people I think just go to one platform and they never get off it Yeah, and if it works because they have the games that you want Well, I also think it's stupid that people that prefer one platform You don't like to have to put down someone else's choices to make themselves feel better about their own choice I always say if you feel so great about your choice Why do you give two shits about what other people are doing? Or do you actually not feel so great and you're actually jealous? And so you got to put them down to make yourself feel better because you actually don't feel good about your purchasing choice Yeah, personally, I love my switch. I don't have to justify it to anybody else I could say things like Sony had a better showcase than anything nintendo's over done because it doesn't affect my enjoyment of switch It's just me being I'd like to say objective Maybe it's not objective, but it's just me giving you my honest thoughts, right? Like, I don't know So, but yeah, I yeah, of course. I have a bias and an affinity for nintendo I don't know if I'd say a fanboy because I can recognize it but um Based on other people I've talked to especially today where I don't think they realize how biased they really are Um, it's it gets pretty bad. It's almost like Sony could literally make a game called mario that's better than any mario game ever made in nintendo licensed them to do it But it's exclusive to sony but because it's exclusive. It's a piece of shit And it's weird like some of these games I feel like if nintendo owned them and they were exclusive to switch I have a feeling a lot of people that were arguing with me today on twitter would be completely flipping their tone Oh, yeah, awesome. These games are they would think they're the greatest things like it's for spoken was a switch exclusive I'm sorry. People would be flipping their shit as switch owners for sure I like it's that's what I say like look at this showcase as if these were coming to switch as if this was a nintendo switch showcase Then tell me what you really think But they can't do that. No, so um Let's see here Michael orlando said any chance you have Any idea or have even heard any rumors about when fall guys is finally coming to switch God, no, they announced this so long ago and I still have no idea when it's coming It's weird, right? It's probably be next year at this point It's weird. It doesn't feel like a game. They should have such a hard time coming to switch Yeah, right. I think eric might look it up here quick. Um What I would do want to get out of here while eric's doing a quick quick search on fall guys for switch is uh How's our audio sounded today? I don't think I've gotten any honest feedback on it yet I'm very curious what you guys think about our audio today. We do have We are debuting brand new mics. Um, if we have to adjust volume and stuff We've been trying to pay attention to it because these ones Aren't as sensitive as the old ones because they're actually higher quality mics But just because they're high quality doesn't mean it sounds that way I know we've had a number of audio complaints in the last few episodes During the show some of it was because we were set up a new computer and we had like the Mic audio on on the camera and stuff like that, but even afterwards I even noticed listening back through okay There was some garble. There was some clicking sometimes and I'm just curious You know how it sounded to you guys that have been listening especially this whole show Because my goal obviously anytime we add new audio equipment to the equation is I want it to get better I don't want it to stay the same. I don't want it to get worse. I want it to be better And yes, we have extras In case we break one although these ones are much harder to break god You guys probably can't tell on camera so all of you these cables are like three times as thick as the ones in our old one So much harder to break also obviously they don't really stay straight easy, but well doesn't matter for our purpose Yeah, they were wrapped up wrapped up for our purposes doesn't matter and obviously the mics themselves are a lot bigger But yeah, I'm curious what you guys think paul again that we're seeing the audio is clear It's audio is good audio is crisp. It's really nice great improvement. Thank you. Look see loke You would know he's been in a lot of our shows nice. Um, thank you for getting my question. No problem, man Something comes this fall It's it's there's no release date. There's no official release date. Just uh, 2021 I am seeing something that was uh delayed out of its original summer 2021 Um, but nothing so we're not seeing any official date. Yep delayed cross play coming Um, audio is loud and clear guys. Thanks. Thanks to that man walking 89. I appreciate the feedback Audio is good a few cracks at the beginning Um, there's a few cracks at the beginning weird, but it hasn't cracked the rest of time I wonder if that was just um Like just turning the mics back on if that was a stream labs thing. Yeah, it could have just made us be unmuted the mics. Yeah So it might have took a bit for it to equalize. Um, there's also a setting on obs I can change that can help with that as well Hmm. Um, that's another reason why I wanted to have that feedback. Um, a few more questions Sean core core again says have you heard anything else on odyssey team making a donkey con game rumor? Has there been any mention of an odyssey 2? Um, they did galaxy do after all I have not heard anything that hasn't been like any updates other than people just saying it still exists So the donkey con game supposedly still exists. Don't know when it's going to be announced Um, and then obviously, you know, when you dig deeper into it, you have Um, what's happening with mario odyssey are we getting another one? I Think it would make sense. It's old 20 million, but right. Yeah, we don't know. I feel like if they could get announced next year Um, so I feel like either next year we're going to get a new mario game announced or a new mario card announced one of the two Maybe both But one of the two and it'd be sweet if it also came out next year Because next year starting to shape up like a repeat of 2017. That would be huge 2017 was amazing So if we got like xeno 3 next year plus mario card plus mario, I mean, oh my god Don't forget. Oh my god. Don't forget pokemon pokemon legend That was that was that's new one to the list. Literally not a not a repeat from 20 um Uh, so we want to oh what mics are these? Uh, don't have the box right there. Uh, air. Can you reach it? So these are movo. I know that um, so these are the uh, movo lv 8 dash d professional omnidirectional lavalier microphone their xlr mics They run anywhere from 70 to 100 dollars each depending on the day and their stock levels Um We bought three of them. So we have one extra one plus we still have our old mic So we technically have four all together We obviously like to never have to use that old one again unless we're in a four mic setup for some reason We happen to have yeah four people here, which we could make work I we actually have enough chairs to do it Yeah, I don't have the audio interface to do it though But yeah, it's something that I'll worry about if we ever have a four person in person podcast um, but Yeah, it's um, the they're nice. Uh, I got them directly off their website They also are available on amazon our old mics were also movo ones, but they were a lot cheaper Um, and I mean the build quality alone on these is just significantly better a lot more heavy duty But the mics themselves are supposed to be a lot higher quality But this is the first day I've had them and I haven't made a video with them yet Yeah, this is literally the the debut of us using them Yeah, so like that's why I haven't even been able to really we listen to them back briefly beforehand just to make sure they work Yeah, and it sounded great Right that was in a non stream situation. Yeah, and I haven't had headphones on editing a video with them yet to really know Um, but I assume they must sound a lot better because not more expensive doesn't always mean better But they're definitely better build quality. I mean just the xlr and themselves. There's a lot lot less chintzy Like almost like you didn't even realize the other one was chintzy until you held right? I mean that one's metal But this one's metal. I mean it's it is heavy duty. It's heavy duty So, yeah, if anyone's interested in them, they are xlr those you do need interface. These ones also by the way Do need phantom power. I don't know if our old ones needed phantom power I know they wouldn't work unless it was on but I think that was more of a our interface needs it on But I think those ones actually work without phantom power These ones need phantom power for anyone interested in audio equipment You'll know what i'm talking about when I say you need phantom power to use these I haven't plugged into by the way people always ask a scarlet 2i2 Um, so that's what we use for our audio interface for two people I do have a separate scarlet nexus for one mic that I don't really use Maybe it'll come with like e3 or something, but I don't really use it anymore Um, technically there is a way to set it up where that could be a third mic But you got to like trick your computer into seeing it as something else Really at that point if I if I'm ever going to have a permanent third guest in person I don't know if that'll ever ever happen unless one of us gets a friend locally that Actually knows things about video games and wants to talk about it, especially nintendo And if that does happen and we can set that up cool Then I would upgrade this audio interface to a scarlet 4x2 so then there'd be four mic ports, but That's like a $500 thing. Yeah, and I'm not gonna worry about that because I don't have any friends This is it. This is this is my friend. Yeah. Hi. How are you doing? Um Sean kind of said thanks for answering my question, man I think they could do another odyssey with the same game engine. I agree Also, the bowser's fury stuff makes me very curious like if they're making a game in that direction instead Maybe and would that be called a thing? Hey, welcome Loki raven storm latest member of the board of directors of nintendo prime. Thank you so much for becoming nice a leader I think a leader Is that what we're gonna say? Uh, I still think it would be awesome to have like that donkey kong a game in the odyssey type Uh gameplay I I still think that that's the direction they should go Well, Miles doling the audio has been great. Even your tie is spiffy. Oh, I know I am a little dressed up today Um, I want to well the thing is I don't own a suit. I ideally would like to wear a suit on the show every week I really I was going back and I was going back and and watching some of our e3 stuff Yeah, and I just realized like Okay, it's the same set we were on But it just looked so much more professional because we were wearing a suit. It looked like we were taking it serious Um, and I think I understand why jeff kealy's always wearing suits for all those things And even if it's like not always a suit with a tie But it could be a suit with a gamer or a gamer nintendo prime shirt underneath or something like But that suit jacket just makes it look like you care And I like that. I just don't own one. I just the only reason I have one for e3 guys I didn't rent it for e3 My sister happened to be getting married like the week after it So like the suit arrived like the day of yes Yes, it did and then a second one arrived the next day because that one was too small And the bottom line is I only had the suit jacket and by the way, I knew I was going to have it ahead of time So I already planned for e3 to use it But it was like one of those it just kind of was a happy timing to work out and I go back and watch it I realized Damn I actually think I need to do something about that which by the way suit jackets don't have to be stupidly expensive Yeah, so I could should just go on by it I want to get probably fitted for one the problem is i'm also losing weight right now So it's like do I get fitted for one now or do I wait right? I mean we could always go to All right, I could just go buy like a cheap ass one from like say we could go to savers I go to savers just get like a cheap one that maybe isn't perfect right now But that's fine wait till I hit the weight that i'm going to stay at and then maybe get a tailored one That's you know a few under bucks or something great. Um, because I just want a suit man And I know you already have one But ah It'd be great. Yeah, I got I don't know if Eric wants to bust it out every week But I mean if if we go to savers to get a $10 suit jacket. Yeah, you don't have to get out You're really nice one all the time. Yeah, save the nice ones for like the special. Well, that's when I go to like the game awards You know, we'll have a bedding special probably yeah, bring that back and you know that like hey, they're all suited up We're gonna be all suited, baby. Suit up at least I'm gonna be yeah, I can never force him to do anything He chooses what he wants. I want you like they're anything I want. I told you you didn't have to But I'm going to why if you want to compete with the best dress one day I mean it's the only thing I miss right now are my sunglasses I always forget every show and every video I make I want to have like sunglasses on at some point Because I just like the look of sunglasses. I don't know why yeah, but they're always in the car and julia's always gone So I never have them here and I'm like I got my glasses glasses because I have to order new contacts I don't have my sunglasses. I always reach work. Like where are they? Where are they? Um, let's see here, um We have paul gale network said realistic or unrealistic What game do you want to see the most at potentially next week's Nintendo Direct? Which you choose realistic or unrealistic, which one do you want to go? I mean, I'll go the opposite way Unrealistic metro prime 4 I don't think we're gonna see anything on it metro prime 4 I don't think we're gonna see anything on it, but it'd be awesome if we did metro prime 4 nice um realistic I think splatoon 3 is shown and going to be announced for march Personal opinion, of course But we have seen it. It's already been announced. It's supposed to be next year I could be march's game next year, and I think that we would see here. I think that's kind of realistic I mean, you're gonna go. It's super realistic Everything's coming out the rest of the year, but I mean you're right. Yeah, let's I'm trying to like show a little spice And I think expecting to see splatoon 3 and have it announced for march is pretty realistic. Yeah. Yeah could be wrong on that Yeah, I'd love for it to be breath of the wild instead. Yeah, I was gonna say but I mean that's my personal I don't actually think that's realistic. I still think it's going to be unrealistic that we see even more of breath of the wild I don't think we're seeing more of a thought to the rest of the year personally. Yeah could be wrong on that front I have no idea. Yeah Um david a gil 81 so world war z and dying light at the september direct for certain That I don't know because they've already been announced um You know world war z leaked and then they announced it Dying light leaked and then they announced it. So like They could appear, but I'm not so sure that it's going to be Um, I just don't think it's a for sure thing kind of thing It's more of a because it's already been announced that might not be brought up But you never know and those are third party games and you know some bigger ones even though they're a little older Like I said, this is a real maybe mentioned could be um All right, uh get to the other questions here Uh, sorry. I was way up there. So I'm trying to answer everyone's questions Uh, paul gillen network. Oh, wait. No, we answered that one. Um, sorry. I was I was scrolling back paul I didn't realize you asked that again. What a save me a little time on scrolling back Uh, john dex asked, uh, did samus hunter or other leakers say about when we're going to get the next pokemon information Nobody has said anything as far as I'm currently aware and you guys know my My ears are on the ground with all of the supposed leakers out there Uh, and I'm not seeing anything being talked about when we're getting new pokemon information Uh, I assume it has to be relatively soon pokemon shiny brilliant diamond shiny pearl or november So I would think october at the latest if they don't talk more to this month Um, and I think from that point forward, they'll start advertising that and and legends archie is pretty hardcore Uh, but we'll have to wait and see or is it our ks. I don't know you guys can tell me How wrong I am and how dumb I am and whatever. Well, I mean, I do that in daily basis I'm sure Um paul, you got a number of times in it says uh, my semi-realistic has been in a three That would be it's been three years and nine months. I'll always got it right down to the month I think I think being out of three is going to be at the game awards. That's what I'm making on I've been banking on that every year since it was announced one of these years. I'm going to be right. I think right maybe um But yeah, uh Dead man walking 89 says question Sort of I don't know what a sort of question is Yep, I'm guessing we're going to get metro prime trilogy hd same day launch as the metro prime 4 trailer and e3 next year thoughts on that Metro prime 4 next to say metro prime 4 trailer will be e3 I I've and then the trilogy will launch you say the same day. Yeah same day. Yeah I've maintained that I thought next e3 is prime 4 period for a while now Until you just said prime. Well, you're going unrealistic. I said unrealistic. Yeah, but you think it's next year. Yeah, I think it We'll see I don't even know if it's next year. I want to believe I want to believe it's next year But also we don't know that it's next year. So it's like I don't know Because like a lot of the development also i'm doing a pandemic now. So I just so many unknowns I just hope it comes out this generation Right, but the more and more years we go in the more and more. I'm like just make it a launch game for the next Just make it just make it just make it just make it just just let us know it's real Even if it doesn't come out on switch or switch exclusive anymore Maybe it's a cross-gen game um Michael Orlando says is anyone else super excited for monkey ball I go up with it and from what I hear the new one has a lot of remastered kind. Yeah, so So, uh, look, so super monkey ball, uh Banana remastered or whatever it is. I can't remember any hammock. No, I'm totally messing up the butcher in the name Yeah, there's been a lot of weird news about this game. There are okay. So like, you know in the ball It's a monkey, right? Yeah. Well, you can also be sonic. You can also be tails. You can also be Uh, sega genesis. You can also be a dream cast. Wait, what? Yeah. He has to be a game gear Okay The and they're just keep announcing things that you can play out By the way, it's the easiest thing for them to do because none of the physics change It's just changing the character inside the ball. Oh, right. It's like it's not like it suddenly makes the game No, oodles better. No, it's literally a different skin in a box Yeah, it's kind of it's just fun It'd be different if they all had like slightly different weights and stuff that would be kind of cool Yeah, but that's probably asking a little bit too much. But yeah, um, I mean it's looking good banana blitz Maybe it's banana blitz. Um, it's it's looking it's looking solid. I mean I I'm always gonna have concerns since it's sega and we just saw what happened with sonic colors ultimate You hear about that? No, what? Oh boy So sonic colors, you know, that was like a Wii game, right? Yeah, it also came out on 3ds, but it was originally a Wii game Um, was it trash? It was really good back in the day. Okay, the new one looks trashy. It doesn't Oh Glitches and bugs galore on all versions by the way worse on switch all versions game breaking fall through levels Um things like on a 2d side scrolling level like if you fall and tail saves you drops you in from a 3d perspective And it just messes everything up. Um, there's seizure inducing moments that can be triggered. It's it now look they Two seconds credit one second didn't make the game. It was a different company blind squirrel games I did that yeah, I did that joke. I did that joke with the mask nice If I'm like, but they did not fight it out But they did not fight it out. I've just got to buy a bunch of masks dude Like, well, how did I know that squirrel mask was gonna be useful in a video that squirrel mask is freaking awesome We're gonna have to just buy and then we'll take five bucks or something. There's nothing. Let's buy a bunch of masks. Um but like It's just Look to Sega's credit. They said we will take all your feedback and fix the game and I'm sure they will eventually But like it's almost like Sega didn't check on this game before they just rushed it out the door Yeah, um, so I just Do I really trust them with super monkey ball? That's like, do I trust you guys after what just happened? Do I really say I should be excited for another Sega game? By the way, not every Sega game is bad. Yeah, well like do I really trust you? I don't know. Um Can Baldo. Yeah, Baldo's also had a problem too dang Baldo, um Baldo is a game a lot of people are looking forward to it to sell the like indie game And um, it's just got a bunch of game breaking bugs on the switch version and nobody knows why it's a Something's happening where these companies are just not paying attention to the switch version enough Which is weird when a game like baldo might have sold best even sonic colors ultimate Originally it wasn't on nintendo platforms would have sold best on switch. It's like Can we get some some attention paid to this stuff? No, no like no I don't know I don't know Miles says why do people get hyped over sonic games? Like seriously how many sonic games except mania are actually worth playing Um, a lot of this is a lot of personal preference. Um, I think sonic mania is good Um, I honestly got bored with it after a little while. I think I'm just bored with classic sonic style That doesn't mean mania is bad. It's just yeah, I've been there done that. I'm kind of good Um, my favorite sonic game of like the last 20 years is actually sonic the lost world on we you Love that game. It's like the mario odyssey of sonic games. There are some bad levels But the levels that are really good are really freaking good So like when why do people get excited because there are some people that like colors There's some people that like the lost world. There's some people that like this like that They've now they haven't really been able to make a game that's universally liked by everyone But a lot of the different sonic games have their own individual fan bases So that's why people are like, okay, what's this sonic? You know, supposedly rangers I think is what what we think it's going to be called in new ways. Uh, what's it going to be? So people get hyped because they just hope Yeah, it's like hope it's like, okay, something good. By the way, there's legitimately hardcore sonic fans We have a guy sonic man the best who's all around all the time legitimately hardcore sonic fan loves everything sonic So, you know, how am I to knock anybody who's looking forward to it? I'm cautiously optimistic, right? But obviously the sonic colors ultimate game has given me a lot of pause into did they actually put time into the switch version, you know um, there's that So doggie says son. Yeah, sonic mania was up but sonic mania was a so it was universally praised, but it was a different It was made by fans and then they just hired the fans and made the game official nice So like it's a very unique situation. It's like they didn't get it, right? Fans got it, right? And then sega's like, yeah, okay, we'll hire you Wolves Um after sonic was six i've lost all see i think that's unfair to lose all hope with drasonic was six Because it was like the first real attempt to make sonic a 3d game Like a lot of games fail that make it like make a man fail that it like a lot of games fail that the 3d transitions I don't think it's fair to to say that, you know um Let's see here Uh Any other questions guys, I think we're all caught up. I think that might be a show then if uh, there's no more questions I don't think that might be it. Uh, nice. So thank you guys for tuning in. You guys are amazing as always You can find our podcast on all of your favorite audio places spotify um Apple podcast uh google podcast etc We're pretty much everywhere So you can find the audio version there if you don't have time to stick around for the video version I want to save some bandwidth while you're working out I appreciate you guys coming by obviously. I always enjoy Um actual feedback whether it's reviews on things like apple podcast, which I appreciate to help spread it around Um, or if it's just in the comment section on these videos after the fact I enjoy feedback not just on the audio quality But on my job as a host on you know that I bring eric enough in do I need more guests because we haven't had guests on a Little bit, um, you know on the look of everything is the lighting good I don't have the studio light on right now, but did it look fine without it? Oh, yeah, I noticed. Oh, I noticed it Because there was a few times that the the camera was catching me and it was making me look really pasty Which doesn't happen with the light on nice. Yeah, but that's inconsistency because this light's really white and that light's really warm So it kind of balances out things. Yeah But uh, so I'm always looking for feedback on everything and obviously Did we have good topics that you enjoy the show? Obviously we usually don't have sony topics ever Right, but it just happened to be they had a big show today and I wanted to talk about it Plus apparently I stirred the pot by saying they did really good apparently. I'm allowed to praise anything but nintendo stirred the shit It's really funny like as a nintendo guy like If I don't criticize nintendo, I get called a defender fanboy or whatever Then I try to criticize nintendo, which by the way, I didn't even criticize nintendo today There was no critique of nintendo right nothing negative said about just because I said sony show is better than you know Destroyed anything nintendo's done wasn't me saying that nintendo does a shit job But that's what people interpret it. Oh for sure because they interpret it whatever way they want to make themselves feel Angry or ragey or whatever they were feeling. I have no idea right It is what it is, you know But yeah, you guys for tuning in um, you can catch me on twitter at ninty prime if you want to get it up on that I think right now i'm in a mass like people leaving me on twitter because they're all mad at me Whoops, you know how much I care twitter could close tomorrow. I really don't care Twitter drives exactly In case you guys weren't aware six viewers per video I have 14 000 people that follow me on twitter only six people Click my video links when I put them on twitter. So twitter is pretty much irrelevant to how many people watch my content Kind of self-contained your facebook will send a few but twitter doesn't send anything. I honestly twitter is almost just kind of a waste of time Um, but I like being able to communicate with you guys That's one but a lot of you guys that are on twitter don't actually watch my videos. So That's what it is. Yeah, maybe that's why you don't know how I actually feel about certain things It's funny because I was I was checking out the chat while I was talking about the sony stuff There was not a lot of bickering or a lot of bitching or a lot of like Because and that's what I told people on twitter is like when I talk about this stuff on live stream people are just a lot more respectful And so like i'm sorry when I say the same thing on twitter I you know, maybe expect my fan base to maybe be Like they are on live streams, but then I have to remember there's people that follow me on twitter I don't even watch my content. So they're not really fans. Yeah, I think they just joined for giveaways or something I don't think they actually like me Whereas a lot of you guys might have been here for giveaways, but you're only here on our live streams in the chat Because I presume you actually enjoy it. Oh, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah? Yeah? I don't know. Are you wasting your day wasting your time? Um Okay, well we we can't approve mods don't approve that comment Can't drop the c word. That's a little it's a little much Um, praise you and criticize nintendo. You can't win. Yeah, you just can't win No, it is what it is. I try to keep my content mostly positive, but I'm not afraid to critique what I need to I didn't even critique the nintendo today. I'm good. Right. So, um, then you guys tune it in Hopefully we got a nintendo direct before our next podcast Maybe even the same day be awesome. Yeah, but we don't know I know a lot of people ask me every day. So, uh, you getting the information on one of the directs? Remember what I kept saying oh september 13th and earlier that was just me guessing based on the prior four september directs I don't actually know anything You don't want to be connections. I have directly to nintendo zero now some third parties. I have a few people but Nintendo ain't want anyway. Why are you talking to me? So They don't like me maybe it's because I drink Maybe they don't like people who drink. Yeah, it's possible But I know they drink they just don't do it on camera. Maybe that's why yeah possible Plus I say fuck a lot. No, fuck god fucking dammit. All right guys. Thank you so much for tuning in This is the nintendo ride hobbyist episode 18. I will catch you hopefully a day sooner. Yeah next week. It should be