 COP28 Dubai live 1.5 media innovators magazine allied for future with her Royal Highness Princess Absa Digmar. Good friend of mine long-term good friend of mine not only from the cops from from many meetings I think COP23 Fiji Bonn. We had fabulous time so glad to have you here. Can you please introduce yourself a little bit about your foundation what are you doing here at the COP I know why you're here but others don't. So thank you Mark it's really a pleasure being here and thank you for your leadership and posting live here in Dubai. I'm the Royal Highness Princess Absa Digmar coming from Burkina Faso. I'm an engineer on education for sustainable development and also a party member from my delegation Burkina Faso and I used to be the deputy head of delegation for several cops and the lead negotiators as well on the just transition pathways which is one of the new pieces of the COP which is critical to support our people our communities our business our women no matter your gender we need to support you to transition and and and living in the healthy planets. I'm so glad that we found this time you can see the beautiful hustle and bustle of the COP it's coming to the end of the COP and there's livelihood we have protesters here people who are activists so there's a lot of noise and hustle and bustle I'm glad I could pull you out of your negotiations. Absa is her Royal Highness is a negotiator she's here at all the cops negotiating moderating you're you're a busy person so we don't have this time I'm honored to have you here we're asking two questions at the COP and you've heard of the glass half full and you've heard of the glass half empty the glass half full is this optimistic perspective the positive perspective no matter all the controversy of the COP I would like to hear your COP half full what's your optimistic perspective Absa. Yeah thank you I think that's thank you for that question seeing the help the glass half full and half empty I think when all of us come here which means that we already have a hope we're having a step to move forward don't for me it's always half glass full um we see a good signal and the opening already with the loss and damages are found where right now I think as we pass the half billion in the basket this is a signal inviting the governments to to come in and start doing what's need to be done and to to mobilize more funds we need trillions actually to transition it's not about billions it's about trillions so and we need blended finance those are the things that we've been talking about inside events we even you have ministers from my countries from Asia for the US as well who's who was alone this this is the other side as I think you have people who keep thinking business as usual not stepping out of the box I think we are invited we understand it's we're human we like to stay in our comfort zone nothing appointing here but it's uh it's an invite to uh to our colleagues who's negotiating with us and they are they're hearing very good and the pathways that I'm uh I'm leading the negotiation on just solution pathways I think the negotiation went into the into the smooth way and we we're making a step one to each other we're listening to each other that that is the good thing and of course when you negotiate it's a negotiator you can get all the things that you you need your shopping list you can get everything from your shopping list that is the but you you make sure that at least what's really matters for you for you and for me I make a step you make a step and we meet in the middle so has a starting point but maybe and having in mind a long term we always need to have that and in our minds when we negotiate that is uh we are here representing billions of people it's not about us about our daily work but we're here for humanity that's what we for my side when I negotiate that's what I have in mind so and I hope my other colleagues also have that in mind when they negotiate thank you so much I mean that is such a beautiful perspective it gives us this deep dive into the back end of the negotiations and all the other work you do and that's only just one little facet of the many things that you do there are so many things I could actually stand here and ask you a million questions we don't have the time you're very busy the next question is probably the hardest question I'm going to ask you but you've answered it before we've had it many times before it's one that we've been asking for over 70 years at international organizations that we're at the expo city the world's fair in Dubai 1967 Montreal Canada we asked this question and we played a game called the world game the question is what does a world that works for everyone look like for you as a negotiator I'm sure that's in the back of your mind how do you create a better world how do you negotiate the things but I want to know specifically for you what does a world that works for absolutely everyone look like for you I think that is very critical question and it's a good question so I think that is when you have decolonized minds that is the key thing because if you look in the eyes of the other one and see him has equal like you has the same human kind like you then we can think on having that better world an equal world for everyone I think if you start up for instance not that I'm criticizing to have the major parties of indigenous people women youth we are all indigenous women they are women it's not because you're from the global south or the global north that you're not a women we are giving baby deliveries from the same we get from kringland in the same way I think that we need also to don't a market is marketing is good to get to your point but we need also to watch out but by the fact it's good to make noise to get your voice on the table but at some point we need to be careful on the falling in that trap that you're being targeted and put in a certain basket and you even can get out of it for me for instance a lot of organization has me and can you come and be a women activist I say you know I have fantastic men that I like who like me they are when I look at Mark I see my brother I see my father I see my grandson with respect and he respect me in return that he's his mother his grandmother his sister and his granddaughter when we look in that way with that perspective then we are equal and then you have the real gender balance not that I and when you respect the other gender there is no issue it's about content it's about expertise it's about knowledge knowing your job and do it right it's not about your color it's not about your gender it's about respect and values that is the the world that I see in the future we are futurists both of us you know we're living in year 3000 that's how we see and we are happy people in our lives because whoever I see it's my brother it's my sister and it's all fine and if you think like that you have a happy life thank you so much for letting us inside of your ideas it's always a sheer pleasure the only thing is there a message that you would like to give everyone else just do you have some special message that you would like to to present to everyone thank you very much for giving me this opportunity and once again thank you for your leadership I'm convening the african royal houses for SDGs where we are coming together to have traditional leaders to help the will we are not people who complaining we rule societies for thousands of years my own grand-grandmother princess Yeninga ruled Burkina Fas on the 12th century and we're continuing you know sometimes we are just put at the end of the design of the policymaking but not but we are at the core actually because the communities they come to us they understand their the rulings the traditional rulings and it's a way also to to work together and you more we're more than happy to have you on board a mark you know you're more than happy to have you and to have your friends with us to support us they were more than welcome because we talk about transitioning transition just transition is when we have everybody on board thank you so much for having me mark on this and welcome to Dubai to all of us and thank you for your love as well you know I'm somebody who's believing in the power of love you know whatever we do if we put love in the center it goes thank you for having me thank you so much 1.5 media innovators magazine and allied for future thank you