 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town. Fuckin' the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down. I'm reachin' the smiles and the frowns again. Hop out the reclaren- Give me a G.I. and Hercules. Pop me a perm, make a pergolin. Gretch the bitch, I don't think you deserve the lane. What's up y'all? It's your girl Breanna E. Money. And you're tuned in to another Talk of the Town interview. And who do we have in the building today? She don't even lie to me, boogeyman Wick. I mean, like, finally. Cause like, it's about their time that you pull up to the studio. So how you feelin'? You know, your tape just dropped. How you feelin'? I'm feelin' good. Like, I'm feelin' good. I just had a release party last night. It looked like everybody popped out. The whole city popped out. That's a fact. How is that? Like, when you have an event and you have so many people who show up, like, I saw the lines was wrapped around the corner and everything. Like, what's that feeling like pullin' up to the spot and seein' so many people there for you? I mean, it was over a moment. I just seen the police. I'm like, damn, I gotta hurry for you. But they was really fuckin' what it took. They ain't even changed. Okay, cause they knew the vibes. That's a fact. So the energy was good. Everybody was just doin' anything. That shit was... What's been like the reception for your project so far? Like, I don't know really. You don't know? Like, what people say? Cause listen, don't... Honestly, like, it's been mixed. Like, some people say it's my best tape. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people say that. But they say I buy every tape, you know? So... That means they just keep gettin' better and better. I see a lot of people jackin' a project though. I'm not even gonna lie. And I know you see it too, cause you can be postin' everything that people post. And it's like, it's not to this point. It's not even lying to this story. Everything I do, gonna be lit anyway. So, what we gonna do real quick is a little ice breaker. We're gonna do two truths and a lie. So the people could get to know you cause I feel like you don't be putting yourself out there out there. So let's get to know Shawnee a little bit. So give me two truths and a lie and I'm gonna try to figure out which one the lie is. I love Louis. I love Dior. And I love Tom Brown. You love Louis, you love Dior, you love Tom Brown. I know you love Louis, but I'm gonna assume you love Louis based on context clues, cause I know about you. Tom Brown or Dior. I'm gonna say Tom Brown is the lie. It's the lie. Okay. See, you know what? It's fine that you chose those two, those three things to be your two truths and a lie, but I thought you was gonna get a little more personal with it. Like we wanna know you, but it's fine cause we still gonna find out. Alright, so let's just jump right into it. So I know on O3wood City, on your cover art, you had what, 191st and Wood Hall. That's a fact. Is that where you from? That's a fact. Okay, so talk to us a little bit about growing up in Queens, like what that was like. Growing up in Queens, that shit was just like regular Queens shit. What's regular Queens shit? Regular hush and honest shit. I'm a Brooklyn girl, I don't know nothing about Queens like that. I mean Queens is like fast, like fast living life. Is it? I mean my side, I'm gonna need to speak for my side. Okay. I don't know, like we fast living, we getting like, we grinchin' 24-7. What that mean? Grinchin' cause the grinch is the big part of your brand. What does grinchin' mean? I got that shit from my brother. Yahya, my little brother Yahya and shit. It's like a whole movement. It's like a walk of life, like grinchin', like trappin'. Everything is grinchin'. It could be in a positive way too. Like if you go on to college, you grinchin' your way to college. Huh, that's interesting. So it's really one of those context things. Just use it how you can. Okay. So like before you started getting lit, like how was you moving? What was life like for you? I ain't movin' away like too much. Movin' out of the hood, you sayin'? No, like before you started, cause now of course you lit, everybody know who you are. But before that happened, like what was Shawnee like before the fame? I mean I said I had a little hood fame, but like it was just like Okay. Regular hood fame. So you was already known before you started making music and stuff. Okay. So then movin' into when you started making music, how did that all come about? I started fuckin' with my son for 50 and shit. So we started makin' some shit and then we just form YTV or whatever. Everybody was just doin' some rap shit. We was gettin' wild good feedbacks. We be like fuck it, we gon' be on some rap shit. And we gonna get into the YTV of it all. So that's how you started making music though. That's interesting. So of course I have to ask you, was Shawnee Bin Laden the name while you was hood famous or was that the name that came after you started making music? You was always Shawnee Bin Laden. One thing I'ma say, I said this nigga really don't care cause your name is Shawnee Bin Laden. You from New York, like clearly we already know what comes with the last name Bin Laden. So how did like you even decide to make that your name? Niggas really call me Shawnee Bin Laden cause I drop bombs. That's not OD. That's some real New York shit. When bro come through it's like I think it's dropping bombs on this shit. It was like back then though. I just ran with that shit. I mean it's like different rappers with that type of context. It's like Dex Osama, it's Lil Dex Osama. I'm using the nigga's last name. I'm wrong. I mean, but you know. What's the difference from that? You know what though? I think the name in itself is like damn. But I think like as somebody that listens to your music, I don't even be thinking about it like that. It's like once you tapped in, it's like alright, that's just the name. But of course I had to ask you where you got that from. Alright, so like we were just talking about Boogie Man Wick just dropped. You said the people have been receiving it kind of 50-50. What are your thoughts on the project though? I mean that shit fire. The people love it. Honestly, I wouldn't say like that. I would say like they did something like oh shit fire, shit fire, shit fire. I got to really like I want to see it as in stream wise when I mean it. You want to see numbers? I want to see the numbers because I'm doing my shit independently. One nigga saying like yo, this is the best tailing. Let me see if it's the best tailing at the end of these three months when this shit come in. Right, so what like for somebody that doesn't know about like how numbers work like to you, what numbers would you want to see that would show you that like it's actually doing what it needs to do? Shit like a couple million. It's like three, four. I'm good. I was surviving without that before. Right. Okay, okay. I will say you got some bangers on there. Double cup love is my favorite but then I also wrote down Wiktango because that was a bomb too. Now what do you think are like the most underrated songs for the people who are just listening to the ones that get reposted a lot? What songs would you tell people to tap into that they haven't? Wignation. Okay. Fever. Like those types of shit like that. I like those. Okay, so now one thing about you is you will drop a project. You drop a few projects in the same year and I really can't like it blows my mind because it's not even like a little ten songs here. A little EP, six, seven songs. You can drop in close to 20 songs on every project and this year alone including the deluxe for Mary with Miss, you dropped five projects. And I'm assuming we expecting another one. In December. How do you do it? I mean like by the time I drop that shit I'm going to the next project. So how many hours on average would you say you spend in a studio or how many days rather in a week would you say that you spend in the studio? We be in that shit every day honestly. Every day. I mean it makes sense how many songs you got. So do you feel like the quality or let me say it this way do you feel like the quantity of songs that you put out affects the quality of music at all or the amount of time that you put in to just making music in general affects what you put out? I don't know. Everything is a hit. I think just staying on like staying on top of your shit like a lot of people like get a good result and like start slagging and shit like like I'm gonna stay on top of my shit until I get like where I want to be. I'm gonna stay in the studio like until it should pop. So walk me through like what your creative process is like when you're in the studio. Shit we do this shit off the beat so like I'm just getting high. Okay. I just walk into the booth. Do you already know what beats you about to get on when you get in the studio? I go through like 50 beats. I go through a lot of beats. So of course as a self-proclaimed king of sample drill I have to ask you like you said you go through like 50 beats so what is it about a beat that makes you feel like that's the one that you're gonna hop on? Cause it gotta really touch your soul like you know certain songs you but like damn like I don't remember what I was doing when I was young when this shit came out and shit. I don't want to do no sample. I don't got no meaning to this shit. I'm not just doing like any sample. Okay so you were all selective with it. I mean I'll be passing on certain samples. So it's not always just the sound it's the song too. It's the song too. It's also something that like I've noticed about you and your music like you don't just use like trendy songs to sample like it may be some like low key shit that you don't even realize and it's like all this shit just worked. Because niggas start juicing like everybody started using that shit after us so I don't be like mmm that's T. A lot of people start using that shit after us. And you and a lot of people started using it specifically in the drill space. I ain't mad at it. I just look at it like people feel it to me like it come with the pioneer shit like I ain't looking at it on something like nah it's my shit like niggas already noticed like niggas know my name like niggas know the vibe so. So if you can remember what was the first song that you sampled? Drake. What was that shit? What was that shit again? It started from the bottom. Started from the bottom you sampled Drake and that wasn't a drill sample. That was just a sample. So you've evolved your sound from just sample beats to drill sample. So from your experience and just from your perspective how has that transition been? I mean it's been good results from this shit so I ain't I ain't beefing. You see what this shit doing now. And when did you notice it start picking up because you just called yourself one of the pioneers of drill and I'm not disagreeing with you. When did you sample drill like that drill? Sample drill. Excuse me. When did you see it start picking up the sample drill? Just seeing everybody start using samples like honestly nobody was really doing samples like that. Now do you feel like you get the credit that you deserve for being one of the first? I ain't gonna lie I got a strong ass fan base I ain't gonna lie I love my fan base like the niggas are not playing about it They make sure you get credit with it. SB started that shit. Fuckin hot. Okay. Now doing them samples is like 015 back in the day. You started making music what year? 2014. I was recording on my phone on SoundCloud that's when you record yourself on SoundCloud playing the beat next to your phone. Wow you just took it way way back and now you're here. So do you feel like I don't want to I feel like we should always be grateful for where we are Are you satisfied with where you are right now? Where do you see yourself going? I'm real satisfied honestly. Okay. I made a good living a lot of people that's why I don't understand this shit I know I ain't getting 3 million views on my video and shit but I'm making averages 60,000 a month over my music. So I know niggas we ain't buying shit I'm like where that shit go? I think it's not living right. I respect I respect your perspective on yourself but I think that you deserve a lot more than what you get to be honest. I feel like especially as somebody who kicked off the San Pedro wave I don't think that I think you may get the flowers from your fans but that's because they're your fans but I think you should also get a little more acknowledgement from people who may not be your fans that can just, you know, recognize it for what it is. So I know I asked you about Mary Wickmans before I just want to ask you real quick since you said that we are confirmed to expect it are we going to actually get any like Christmas samples on there any holiday? Really? I'm excited. I'm starting that shit up now. You starting it up now? I think that would be fun. Not the whole thing but just like a little I don't think the whole thing would be cool. I could even see a video because you get real creative with your videos I could even see something working there. Do you have any holiday traditions? Thanksgiving coming up, Christmas coming up Do you do stuff with the family? I'm trying to do a turkey drive I saw you post that I'm working on that right now Is this going to be your first one? How important is it for you to do stuff like that and give back to the community? That shit is real important because I'm doing that shit right there independently too so I'm just doing that shit out of pocket to give it back. A lot of things are going to be grateful for the community as one I love my community I knew everybody from there since I was young I definitely got to do that That would be dope. So you would do it in Queens That would definitely be dope and I know Ice and Lil TJ just did one they had a big turnout so I think I always like to see the artists giving back especially the young ones because this is our generation and the ones after us it's good for them to see that we actually care so when it comes to your family I know you Jamaican and I know Jamaican are very big on families so what's your family dynamic like? I know everybody I ain't going to lie about my jima my mom's everybody but you know regular Jamaican house and I know you have some music background in your family by way of your uncle so how have they been receiving your music and your artistry? I ain't going to lie they proud so I'm honestly just taking on my uncle so I'm just doing my shit for him now for the people that don't know do you want to tell them who your uncle is? his big stretch and eat money bags he's that pock and all he's making his beats and shit like a mad different shit now do you feel sorry did I cut you off? do you feel like that influenced you when it came to making your music at all? I started doing these samples like that's how I can't even with head up like that shit we're going to get into that too so you were influenced by the music that you were hearing them play and the stuff that they were involved in that's dope that's dope okay so now when it comes to of course I just asked you about your family when it comes to like you started getting money you was doing your big one was there a big purchase for your family like did you do anything to like give back to your family when you started getting it? I got my mom a crib I love that shout out to your mom okay and now what about the ladies no you was suspended already with a lady Shawnee okay I asked you about past tense what about now are you spending you not spending really I'm so surprised why not I'm a grinch though the grinch could be nice every once in a while my gentleman well damn who hurt you nobody that's just the way it is I mean no I ain't saying I wouldn't do it but just not yet not you say you not saying you wouldn't do it you not saying that you didn't do it you just say you don't do it and not when the money came I did it before that oh you did it before the money came then why is that and we will get into this we too ahead of ourselves here but why not do you just haven't found the right girl is it just you a little stingy with it nah I just ain't found the right girl okay that's fair but like I said you do? but you just not spending too much no gifts damn alright well they definitely be tapped in they be reposting the music I feel like they lowkey be shooting a shot when they be tagging you and stuff with the music I feel like they be wanting you to see it that's why they ain't getting no gifts I gotta make sure you gotta make sure they're not in it for the opportunity so like when it comes to making your music though do you make the music with the ladies in mind or are you just yeah like hold on that double cover like I made that oh yeah cause that had me I told you yeah that was definitely one of my things blackout shit that shit for the ladies made a couple shit for the ladies okay well they be tapped in and not only do the ladies be tapped in but you also have like an alternative crowd that's tapped into I don't know what to call it but it's definitely a different crowd cause I saw you had performed the box boys band and it was a whole mosh pit they ain't even know I was pulling up to that shit I ain't no fun so is that something that happens or was that just like a yeah that's how they do what you think about that they be fighting for fun when you performing I mean at least they enjoying themselves so like but like who do you make I know we just kind of talked about this but like is there a specific type of path or genre when you make your music that you have in mind nah that's what we mean I feel like my shit is my own genre like I go on my own pace like certain people like yo he rapping fast but certain people like non-cordia you have a very interesting way of rapping yeah in certain days I don't even it's very interesting and it works for you like I was saying before I feel like how does this blueface does this like y'all don't have the same sound at all but like y'all just be rapping and it's like if the beat catch it it catch it but it works like it sounds good so like I don't know how you do it but keep doing what you do so in 2010 you introduced us to Shawn Wick and then after that it's been Wick ever since in the titles so talk us through that how did that come about with the Shawn Wick shit yeah I ain't go a lot like another time we was in the studio that shit sound like you wound in a booth like somebody's gonna kill you do it nah that's still like real shit we just be in the booth and so did you took the John Wick reference and ran with it yeah so what's the difference cause you had you had mentioned that there was a difference in your sound I forgot where you said it but you said there was a difference in your sound between Shawnee Bin Laden and Shawn Wick now what's the difference between the two I mean I just feel like I grew everybody thought I was going to stay like that I just grew with my music that's the difference I was young and now I'm older and what do you think contributed to your growth was it you just listening to your stuff or just like trials and tribulations oh shit so growing up experience do you get feedback from people on your team or anybody else about the music that you put in out always we all together yeah so like if they be like okay that's what I was going to ask you and they could say Barbara do this shit right now I'm about to do this shit over plenty of time I'm going to take all that shit over I'm going to do this shit over when you do it over new words or you just do it over the same oh wow okay so they keep it honest with you when something not working now of course in return do you do the same because I know you got a lot of friends that make music you tell them if they should work okay so you have speaking of your friends you have a lot of features with them like most of the features that you have are with your friends what's that about features no rap cat because I'm not like I don't really do features a lot you go pay for the feature though okay so you do features but only if it's some monetary funds behind it yeah that's a fact because what I'm getting out of this shit like you don't feel like features help artists at all yeah definitely so that's what you're getting out of I got a whole squad full like I love that for you yeah I got my niggas I came with I got the generation on us yeah I don't see but they in here so deep right now like it's really crazy okay so alright so I guess this kind of answers my next question because I noticed that you have a feature with Lidra Lee nah that's uh that's crazy like it's a name called Eda Fitted on SoundCloud like he had took he had took like a clip okay because it's even on your Apple music yeah it's on there but it's submitted by him a lot about me see I was like that's an original song with my song from Detroit okay well that makes a lot of sense now no offense to Lidra Lee but I was trying to figure out out of like all the features that you would have like could have done from so that's not an official feature nah that just happened like okay put the lyrics took the nigga I did the song with and then just put you on it see that was my song with another person and then they put him on it see I didn't know that so you just told me something because I definitely sold it in your Apple music and I I know and that's why I was like the original song is out too on the dudes like album and all that taking him out of it who, not Coach Joey believe it really, who would you want to work with in New York if money wasn't a thing if you know you were just doing stuff for the love are there any artists that you would like to work with from New York I mean I mean not in particular honestly like I worked with a lot of artists already I'm saying like if I ain't already worked with you yeah I feel like I already worked with everybody that's interesting I started working with I just worked with was Maya and I love that I'm just saying like if it happened it has to be organic though I feel that now I have to ask because I saw the name of the song was Love You Better y'all use the baby smile today y'all use that oh you not gonna give us no T we'll see we'll see when it drops but I'm just gonna say if you did use that so fire shout out to Maya because she really doing her thing what do you think about the state of the New York music scene right now in general I ain't doing anything to me I feel like on a something on something okay okay now when I thought about asking you this something that came into mind was when you were reflecting on your conversation with Virgil and he said that he felt like the world needed a reset and following that the world needed an update excuse me an update and following that Diddy said that he felt like New York wasn't doing what we needed to do Diddy said we at last place and I felt like the two kind of went together in a way because you were saying that we needed an upgrade and Diddy is saying that we in last place for the same reason on that in general do you feel like we're in a place where we need to like I mean I think we fine man they just gotta stay on track and don't be lazy like that's it I ain't ain't nobody in no fucking last place we ain't in last place so so you disagree yeah I disagree with that but do you see like where he do you get where he was coming from I understand what he mean if he said like in unity wise like we don't come as one I think he was more so saying like the originality of it all like we happen on these drill beats the trap beats and everything but there's like they doing samples now shout out to you industry doing samples now I think it's from down south doing samples now everybody doing samples now I did Waukesha before money bag yeah that's right now when it comes to your beats who makes your beats do you have a producer that you like a go to producer yeah my ATM honestly like Chubby Stronghold Biggs, Tagger it's Madden, Nat Nat Carlos even my boys stunt that's my engineer it's mad different of course I have to ask you you the king of drill and we had cash pull up shout out to cash and you know he produces beats as well like have y'all worked together have y'all are y'all working are y'all still working together okay well shout out to cash shout out to you I feel like y'all both holding down the San Pedro shit in New York so um we are about to play a little quick little game alright so the game no one didn't tell you about this one you got to be on your toes when you come to the twirking town studio so this is a real quick game we're going to do underrated and overrated so I'm going to read you a few categories and you're going to tell me if you think that this is underrated or if it's overrated alright boogie man wait underrated okay school underrated bbls overrated strip clubs overrated what's your point to say that you write your own raps overrated giving people their flowers overrated you think giving people their flowers is overrated like I mean if it's it depends on how the situation is what you feel like people do it for cult is that why you saying that yeah like some people do it for cult some people do it like I want that shit over anyway yeah it's like don't say it don't say you fucking me just say you fucking me say you fucking me cause you actually don't like radio like radio plays hmm nobody really care about radio plays so that shit like overrated I'm not going to disagree cause I can't even tell you I fucked with the radio I just went up there but I'm just saying like my generation is overrated and you got an overio sound play coming so I know you still tapped into the radio but I definitely understand you two pranks yeah I can't yeah I'm not with the shit you're not fucking with the you two pranks okay dressing down in designer clothes yeah it's overrated why you say that I mean everybody doing it just to do it now it's a trend now it's not really perfection yeah I really put that shit on like you got a certain thing you just like you put it on you mix this shit up like I ain't doing nothing alright New York City you underrated underrated why you feel like we underrated we was talking about earlier it's not enough unity so so you feel like the music scene in New York is underrated yeah everybody fighting for the same spot everybody forgetting the main objective like to get this money, get a body or whatever the case may be which I think is possible everybody would kind of just take a second to relax and just okay and getting sturdy what you think overrated underrated I'm 50-50 with that one alright let me hear both sides it's overrated actually overrated cause like every video everybody getting sturdy but then it's like it's underrated cause like the niggas really took their time and made that shit a trend like I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna take that from them neither cause my young boy they doing that shit too I feel like it reminds me of like the getting like a little bit because it was a point in time where like niggas was shaking their shoulders getting like to all the songs that had the beats where you could do it too so now I was like you know you had a little beat you ain't had a gang since all I'm shaking the gang okay maybe they weren't maybe they weren't they was dancing gangsters shout out to the gangsters that was hauling shaking cause y'all the real ones listen I know a couple gangsters that was getting like me I'll be getting sturdy I'll be playing around I'm about to be serious after this I'm gonna see you get 30 my performance I'm y'all about that's what I do after this I wanna see you get 30 alright so now talk me through yellow tape boys cause I know you and it was 40-50 right? 450 450 sorry y'all founded that together talk us through that how did that come about my boy had made a song and shit and when I'm with two friends my boy better like he was just telling me you gotta get SP on that shit he like fucking like we wanted to make that shit happen we got good feedback from that shit from the town so we just ran with that shit and formed that shit like all the bros started rapping okay so is it a music group what would you call it? yeah it's music and I saw y'all cipher on the radar shout out to y'all for that we the first like group cipher like nobody did that before so how was it do y'all all just be like cooking up together every day and how is it having like a team of people who are like working towards this thing it's faster and it's easier like we don't really be like bumping heads oh well that's definitely good okay so now when it comes to you performing of course you have like a lot of people like YTV and just other people who come along with you when you get on stage they all on stage with you gang is on stage walk me through that because that's something that I don't think I fully get all the time like what's the significance of that most of my gang most of the members is all artists so they want to see them too most of them on my mixtape so when I'm performing I gotta pass the mic so it has purpose it has purpose to it so now when you getting ready to perform let's say rolling loud cause you just hit the rolling loud stage in queen shout out to you for that hold on before I even ask my original question let's talk about that real quick how did you feel when you like heard that you were going to be on the line up for rolling loud it was hype cause like I was that scene that shit like the year before that like now I ain't gonna lie bro next year I know we gonna be on this shit like and if that hit me I ain't gonna lie and so what was you feeling like like did you celebrate like what did you do you celebrated after the performance okay and I was like how was it it was fire I ain't gonna lie that was like my best experience okay so now yeah that was one of them one of my best experience what was the next one the one that coming up right now what the one you got was so talented nah yeah that too and we about to go to Paris oh hold on not get it international where you going to Paris me and my boy Gragh got a show that's what I'm saying I got a purpose like that's what I have bringing niggas on the stage putting niggas on tracks putting the bros on tracks like they spending the year on it too so how does that even work like something like Paris like something they reach out to you and just ask you to come out there nah he had a feature that came out here what's my bro Nick yeah my boy Shaju shout out to him oh wow yeah so and so what he's performing in Paris that's fire you been out the country before that's gonna be so fun that's gonna be so fun you know what let me take this time to just say if you don't got your passport what are you doing it is about to be 2023 get your passport we international with it please okay so now what I was gonna ask you before was what are your like pre-performance like I don't want to call it a ritual my word just like but like what do you do before you get on the stage like a rolling out stage definitely got to have a male blunt a male blunt okay that's like a male blunt bad any specific male what's your favorite just anything can't go on the stage nah no chop cheese alright so what you like to eat like some fast food nah no chop cheese though alright favorite fast food restaurant go Chick-fil-A safe answer okay Chick-fil-A is good it's not accessible but it's good alright I'll give you that so full blunt VEV favorite VEV oh I like that Acer because niggas don't be drinking water alright so head up tiktok and on Instagram how did that feel when you found out that it was it was trending yo everybody was just sending me that shit like yo who was this girl that posted this sound because Coco Jones posted it nah it was like a girl that posted it was just some random girl she posted the sound itself so everybody who was this girl getting credit for your soul that's what I was really getting into wait so she posted it and nobody knew where the sound came from yeah like if you clicked it I'll pay that for it yeah because now it's not like that now it's not like that so but what did you feel like outside of somebody else being the one posted how did it feel to know that it felt good did it set any like expectations because I know like even sometimes like as a regular creator you have that like sound or video that goes viral and it's like you try to like make that happen again did you feel that way nah I don't know it went viral and I performed that that was the only thing really they got it to you for this shit but they did it would you have performed it or not if it didn't go viral yeah hell yeah how do you pick which songs you perform since they got the stars on the mix I mean that makes sense so you gonna be performing like some little personal favors that you feel like people may have not tapped into yeah I ain't gonna do it sometimes I I don't like asking people what the name of songs are but I'm gonna google some lyrics if I hear something that I like he be trying to pick the list trying to tweak the list and shit okay so it's still some of you in your performances so you just brought up Bob I know he's managing you right now what are you thinking in terms of I know you mentioned being independent a couple times what are your thoughts on being signed I mean if the if the opportunity if the money's right it's definitely an opportunity but the bread right and how has it been as an independent artist just being managed it's been good I've been great I don't really mind staying independent okay that's fair so for artists that may not have a manager or a team or anything are there any advice or any words that you would like to say of the importance of having a team yeah go get you one go get one you can't do this shit by yourself honestly you're gonna need somebody you can't do that shit by yourself I completely agree so another thing that I noticed about you is that you don't really be flexing on a gram I already told you you like high key below key at the same time outside but you don't post a lot of stuff outside of your music is that intentional yeah okay so how do you feel like Instagram is like a marketing tool because that's kind of like keeping music like that's what it's supposed to be like music like I'm my person like I'm my channel even down to Twitter I feel like you now this is me assuming it seemed like you like scroll on Twitter like and you just be posting and stuff that like people say about you like about your music but you don't post nothing personal on there you know now okay since you want to talk about the stuff that you retweeted you made it sweet like I want to say maybe it was like a year ago and you said fat mom shouldn't be smelling like stinker butt and you want to know why I thought that was so first of all I thought it was funny in general but I don't know if you saw what's been trending today would be Simone on her podcast she was saying that she only take about like two to three showers a week oh no and I wanted to know what your but her reasoning was like sometimes she just be so tired that like she gets home and it's like she's gonna choose sleep overtaking a shower you agree with it no I'm asking you do you agree with it I'm not a girl though okay but do you agree with it no so you don't be sacrificing showers for sleep you shower every day okay now what if you found out you was fucking with a girl and she was only taking two to three showers a week what would your thoughts be on that she's out of here but what if you that's what I was about to say like what if you wasn't even able to tell her she was like that because I never heard nobody say be Simone's think I feel like she said that do I know not to my knowledge yeah I don't know so we can't assume that but if you found out that girl you was fucking with was only taking two to three showers a week she's out of here that's a fact she's out of here gotta go I mean hey I won't say I disagree with you that's your preference so now when it comes to your type what do you look for I know you already said you know you be dating you don't be spending but like what do you ideally look for I don't discriminate what that mean I don't discriminate I don't really gotta tell you you don't gotta tell you I knew that I'ma tell you why I knew that cause your twitter you be liking me obviously you so alright and so you don't discriminate do you be shooting your shot nah you don't shoot your shot so you wait for them to say something to you first and what's like how do you know what's gonna like catch your attention they gotta come with it is it the looks is it instagram presents yeah all like all about okay would you fuck with somebody in entry yeah have you nah I need to fix okay alright cool alright so what's something that's like a common misconception about you or maybe even a rumor that you've heard about yourself that he was like what anything nah I ain't got nothing man okay can I tell you one that I heard yeah what okay and I'm sorry if this is a little offensive so I heard that you got shot while you were out with a bitch nah who me? nah not me I was the wrong person no it might have been the wrong person that the room was about but that was like a thing I don't know if you know or not but like that was that was literally a thing I saw a news article about you getting shot but it didn't back up the whole use with a woman thing nah I ain't get shot you didn't get shot so where do these stories come from I don't know have you heard that? yeah I hear a lot of stories see I just caught you in a lot cause I asked you I asked you I hear a lot but I don't try to keep it in so you don't pay it no mind go in one ear out the other but you're saying that that wasn't true that is outrageous some people say I got 5 kids 10 kids I only got one kid you? I feel like you even got a highlight in your stories 5 kids is crazy how old are you? 27 well 5 kids at 27 is but we not gonna get into that we not gonna get into that so when it comes down to what we can expect from you next I know that we have Mary with miss coming out but is there anything else outside of the music that you're like doing or would like to do? nah I'm just on music time right now just focus on my music right now and you touched on very briefly when we were playing our game that that youtube shit is not it so you wouldn't think about joining like the whole youtube twitch wave either nah honestly I was about to make a twitch that's crazy how we playing the cool duty and shit I think that would be cool I feel like right now like a lot of artists that people really fuck with we fuck with because we like their personalities and I feel like even what sea blue is doing like sea blue hopped on twitch and it's like yeah he's making his music cool but it's like people really tuning in because he's also doing something else like his personality and stuff so I like when artists hop on the switch even when baby hopped on kaisen at twitch I was like okay see you in the new side so that's something that you would be interested in playing games anything else? nah I think that's what so no pranks no nothing like that why not cause a lot of artists are tapping into the prank stuff so why why is it no for you that shit corny fake being somebody I feel like it could only go but so far like it's kind of expected now you're not fake slapping my question is usually like cause they be real disrespectful sometimes like after a certain point it's like where do you draw the line between being in front of a camera and like nah you really being in front of a camera so I mentioned before we was talking about the designer down I said oh yeah like the book bag so what's something that you always got to carry with you give me three things that you always got on you money, jewelry and designer okay you always got the mask on nah hell no it's cold as shit outside you wasn't wearing the mask in the summer nah hell no you ain't seen I don't know nothing I see what you choose to post like I said you don't post a lot I see what I see so do you have anything for like the New York artists or just upcoming artists in general that like you've learned from your experience coming up in this industry that you feel like may help somebody who may be watching this interview just don't sign just don't sign just don't sign so fast and just think that you're going to be late when you sign you got to have emotion already that's the only way it's going to work and what are your thoughts on the labels being so quick to sign these artists do you think that is genuine or like what do you think about it I mean it depends on certain people really need that shit feed their family so that's how I look at it anyway some people really be fucked up trying to feed their people so I don't really get mad at it but I'm just saying like don't think you're about to be signed and be on billboards tomorrow I don't know like if your music lag they were just trying to get you from those stuff but and something I also meant to ask you about was cosines because of course I mentioned OVO sound but you got a big cosine from Drake singing your music on live and everything let's talk about that real quick because how did Jatu get plugged in with each other through Brian, OVO Brian he be playing our shit for Drake and shit and he fuck with it clearly Drake be fucking with it with a few of the New York artists did you feel like after he was like playing your music on live and you got that cosine did things pick up for you definitely every cosine gets picked up who else you got a cosine from it's a whole list like he's just fucking with the kid clearly okay so how important do you think it's a cosine to an artist do you feel like it's like a make or break like if you don't have no cosines do you feel like it hurts you I don't think you need no cosines if your shit is good it's good okay alright well we have Mary Wickmiss coming up you just let us know you might be hitting the twitch wave is there anything else that you would like to perform boogeyman wick out now man go run that shit up yes a whole lot of bobs on that definitely alright well we out here thank you for stopping by it was good to have you finally thank you definitely long overdue very