 The four is good. Where is my one right now? Okay bet, bet. Cool, cool. So here, what you looking like, bro? Chico good in the shadows. There's nothing behind the sheriff we don't want, right? You listening to Marvin Gaye? Yes, sir. Shade? Yes, sir. Michelle Obama, Harry Tubman's up there. You got Angela Davis. Then we got us, of course. Yes, sir. Martin and Malcolm, Barack Obama. Can you have titties behind you? We got titties back there. But they artistic. I understand. I promise. We should turn it upside down. They never know. They'll just look like knees. Whatever, I'll be here all weekend, man. Y'all forgot I'm a comedian. Hey, welcome back to the 85 Self Show. Yes. Hey, I've been saying it for a long time. I guess I spoke this, you know, into existence. There's literally about to be a new sheriff in town. I've been using your title. I didn't know that you was going to eventually be here. You got to say it right, though. When you say there's a new sheriff in town, you got to say his name and his name is Pat LaBette. Here's a new sheriff in town. And his name is Pat LaBette. What's going on, man? First of all, congratulations. Yes, sir. You get to speak up again, man. It's runoff season. It is. It is. And first of all, thank you all. I mean, it's been amazing. We had a chance to talk outside. The things that you all are doing was, I had no idea. Great. And so I told somebody earlier I was bragging on y'all since I met you. And I am absolutely honored to be back. Man, it's an honor and a privilege to have you back, man. Yes, sir. Because now it's getting real. It is. It's a runoff. That means that, hey, you're right there. Yeah, it is. 19 days. This is the next step, man. So after you've gone through the initial election process, my first question would be, did you go back and make some notes and retool your strategy and what are you doing moving forward for the runoff process? So we did. I mean, it's almost a rinse and repeat. You know I was running for almost a year and a half. And so we were very thorough about what we did and intentional. And so the plan worked. It's hard to beat an incumbent. When you look, though, 100,000 people in Fulton County intentionally did not vote for the incumbent. They intentionally voted for change. And that's what the whole platform is about. It's about change. And all the things that are happening in our communities, it's time for change. It is time. And we need new leadership. So timing is perfect. I say it's divine intervention. Right. And it's time for change. That's good. So now the runoff process, is there any difference in the runoff than it was in the initial election? Well, the initial, there were, and there are some differences. There were five candidates, including the incumbent. But more importantly, there were literally 100 and plus precincts that were open. We only had six early voting locations. So I do want to applaud the Fulton County elections department early voting this time. It's actually 20 different locations, including the largest in the Southeast at State Farm Arena. So that'll be huge. But there were also 47 items on the ballot. Now they're only four. So it's down to the nitty gritty. And so less than 50% voted for any one candidate. And so now you can win by one vote. And so every vote counts. Okay. Yes, sir. Now you being, that you're running for sheriff, you know what I mean? And I know why I come from a DC, you know, we don't have any of that. So is there a difference in the way that you have the police down here versus other, you know, in the cities across America, is there a difference in your methods that you can apply being a sheriff versus just being a high ranking police officer? Well, to your point, right? The sheriff is elected. And so police chiefs and police officers are appointed by the mayor. There are 15 cities inside Fulton County. Fulton County is one of 159 counties in the state of Georgia. So it dates back and centers to the point that it is one of the largest and most powerful associations in the state. And so the high sheriff is considered the person that runs the largest sheriff's office as well as Atlanta sits in Fulton County. So there is a difference, all right? You are allowed to swear people in as deputies don't get any ideas. I'm just trying to get immunity. If there's any way to sign up for immunity, I want some of that. But the sheriff should set the tone for policing, all right? Set the tone for law enforcement across the county. And, you know, there are 15 cities, as I said, inside Fulton County. 15 different police chiefs. And so we have to do a better job in our community of really listening to our community but at the same time organizing and making sure we're thoughtful about what we do. Right. I watched the last interview that y'all did and it was very interesting. And I had so many questions just watching it. Where I come from, there's a high recidivism rate. Like, you know, my guys get out, they go right back. And I think a lot of that is because there is a disconnect between the people who enforce the law and the people who have the hardest time, you know, abiding by it. So being as though that you are looking to be the new sheriff, what do you think that you can do differently to make sure that when guys come home that they are useful to the community? Right. What programs do you think you can implement being as though you will have that power to give guys that come from the neighborhood that are, you know, impactful inside the neighborhood to give them something realistic to do to keep them active and keep them from going back and also use that influence to keep the other young people from going back. Well, I think it starts before an individual gets released. And so, as we discussed last time, I spent 30 years at the City of Atlanta Department of Corrections, the last 10 as chief. And one of the things that we did was create a partnership with the State Department of Corrections with the number one reentry program in the country. So we have people and sheriff's offices and police officers across the county and across the country trying to figure out what we did. And what we did was create an environment much to your point where these young men had real jobs. They become city employees. So instead of leaving an incarceration with $25 in a bus ticket, we have people leaving with $20,000, $30,000 in a bag. Oh, really? And so they become city employees. So I tell everybody, they start, literally start their retirement while they're incarcerated. So they keep their jobs. And so when you come out, you have a place to live. More importantly, or equally as important, is they now have some stability to not go back to those old ways. So, and I don't know if I said this last time, I know we were, you weren't here when we talked about there's a young man that sat in the back of the room and he said, chief, I never thought, but for this program, I wouldn't even be able to buy my daughter a prom dress, all right? And so that touches you and it inspires you to continue to go through these programs and build programs like this. And it was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my 10 years as chief, because we really affected change. And that's what this was about. This was affecting lives. They started getting their medical insurance while they're incarcerated, not necessarily for them, because that's our responsibility for their family, all right? So can you imagine a situation where a child hasn't had medical insurance because their father's been incarcerated? And so for us, it was about how do we prevent that. And exactly to what you said is how do we create a better system so when these brothers and sisters come out that they are in fact more equipped to stay out. And so we've had zero individuals return back from the program, return back to jail. And then equally, we have to look at, we want to rest our way out of any of these problems. And so we started reading with kids on the third grade level. You hear all the time about the school to prison pipeline. And how do we interrupt that pipeline? And that's what it was, sending officers over to really engage with kids at a young age. And hopefully they could stay out of jail as well. Makes sense. You shouldn't go to jail for fighting in school. That builds character. I think y'all really got to stop arresting people for everything. Them kids need an ass-wolf in high school so you can figure out that you are a good student and you're not tough. Like I've seen ass-wolves have a positive effect. Impact on people. I feel like everybody, if you get in a fight, both people shouldn't have to go to jail. Like the motherfucker who lost should have to go to jail. Well, yes and no. If you're like taking both parts of your company, you got to defend yourself. If you lose, like if you start the shit and you lose, then you should have to go to jail. Well, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. I know that's what I'm telling you. But what I used to tell people when they get to fighting inside the jail was the winner we're going to send to court, the loser we're going to send to the hospital. So, you know, somebody got to go somewhere. Well, I know that growing up being a police officer is not the thing to be. I'm talking about like, if you raise your hand in my class from it, say, yeah, I'm going to be the police. We're going to beat your ass if Reese says I'm going to be the police. That's what I always get. You know what I mean? So, my question to you is, what do you think you can do to change that narrative? Like, do you think that it's something that can be done to make kids not look at police as the enemy and look at them as, because we don't have any good experiences, most of us don't have good experiences with the police. I've had very few in my life that are positive to where when you see them, that initial fear of, oh, shh, they got me, they got them. Like, how do you feel like you can change that? Especially in the eyes of young people, because I feel like if it was more, if it was cool or if they had some people to look at that were cool, then it would be started at an earlier process in their life so they can grow with the law and know how to enforce it amongst our people. And look, I get it, right? If the blue lights come on behind me right now, my stomach starts flipping, right? Until they realize that I used to be with the city. It might not be good enough these days that you should be shitting them. But it goes back to something we talked about last time when we talked about training. Right. And you asked me what kind of training and where will the training end? Right. And see, I remember this. You asked me, do we train white officers to kill black young men? Yeah. And so that allows us, these conversations allow us to evolve. And so I would say now to that, we need to figure out how to make the first conversation and encounter one that is not one of arrest. And so that's why we sent officers over to read at the third grade level and be a part of the school system. And actually, and you know how proactive I am. Send them to high school to read. Third grade level too low. See, that's the problem. They're training them with the wrong shit. I can understand that if I don't see no videos of black officers doing this shit, I don't see black officers going to white communities, whooping people ass and harassing them and they front porch. I've been in the neighborhood where it's like, damn, we already live in the most fucked up place we can live. You mean to tell me we can't sit on the porch. That whole police pull up, go in the house, shit. What else? I mean, it's like to the point where these officers go into black communities and provoke this shit. You know that we live in a crime-ridden place. It's broken over here. What do you think we need? Officers sitting in our fucking driveway all day watching us. What does that create? The better opportunity is for us to have officers live in the community. But that makes it even worse because now we broke in, we gotta live next door. Snitching ass stands. But what it does is build friendships. If you have an officer that's able to live in your community when something happens, it's not unfamiliar to you. That's what this is about. It goes beyond community policing and into an area that allows us to be a part of the community. We do gotta act like there's a lot of shit coming out about police officers doing all this that we didn't know. First of all, police is not about to be living in our broke-ass communities if they're making $200,000, $300,000 a year. Let's be real. Well, let's be real. They're not making that. But they're making a lot more than the average citizen to be living next door. It happens because people live in nice neighborhoods. But I'm talking about the ass whoopin's that they... They're not trying to live in them communities where they go and do all this terrible shit. But I think if you implement it... If there was a program implemented to where... If you become a police officer, you are obligated to live in these communities regardless. So don't become a police officer if you're not willing to live amongst the people that you're policing. If you have a problem with that, then that automatically shows that you're not fit to be a police because if you look at a community and say, I ain't staying over that dirty motherfucker, then that means that you have an idealism of what these people are. And there's no way you can really police them and have an idea of who they are as a people. So I think it should be... I think we start earlier than that. And so you look at what the Atlanta Police Department is doing with the At Promise Center. And so every recruit, so we don't say at risk. It's the At Promise Center. And so we look at the recruits actually having to, I won't say do time, but serve in those communities as their recruits. I think it's unrealistic to say that everybody has to be in that community because we all want better. We also want a better community. The question becomes how do we do it? And so the Atlanta Police Department was very forward thinking when they built five houses over in Vine City and went through a selection process of making sure officers that wanted to be in the community were able to purchase those homes, have to stay in those homes, but then they are part of the community. So we have to do a better job of that. And then the other piece is a lot of officers can't afford to live in town. They don't get paid $200,000 or $300,000. And I think that creates a level of problematic. The budget of a billion dollars. That's Los Angeles. She's absolutely right. I just think that it's the enforcing of the law that's the problem that I've experienced because we don't get taught the law. We just get it enforced upon us. The people who look like us, nobody's coming into the community. You can come read on a third grade level, but there should be some programs off of, in my opinion, off about a police where you can come and learn the law and learn your real rights to where you know if your rights are being violated. Because a lot of times we don't know our rights are being violated and we react based on just natural instinct and then end up breaking the law within that. So I would challenge you to say, one, you're correct, but there is a citizens academy, right? So let's be a part of it. And that teaches you everything that you just spoke of. There's a sheriff's academy, there's a citizens academy, a citizens police academy. So we want to build those relationships and it's about spreading the word because people don't know that, right? And it's a eight, nine-week course that you have to be committed to, but at the same time it allows us. And one of the things I said last time I was here is I want to make sure that the community and law enforcement, the gap is bridged so quickly because it's necessary to do that, right? But what that means is I become sheriff-elect on August 12th, right? I'm going to take a couple weeks. I got to give my wife her time back. But come September. Reclaiming my time. Yes, absolutely, right. Because if you don't, you're going to have more problems than this sheriff. Right. But come September, I want to have these communal conversations and be able to say what is the issue. And one of the things that came out of our conversation was how we train. And so I think the focus needs to be on not the physical part of it, but how we change the mental training to say I'm not making an arrest. My job is to figure out how to help you get home tonight. Right. And if we put that first, then watch some of the things that go away. And you said there's a citizen's academy. So would it be possible? Let's say I, you know, I'm going to the citizen's academy. I'm going to learn the law. Like, is there something that can be given to me to show that I completed the citizen's academy? You motherfuckers is tripping. I know my rights. Like, and if you violate me and I know that, you know, I didn't complete it, the citizen's academy, then that mean I should be able to get you something that you can't eat lunch for a week or something. I don't know what it is. Hey, this has been the question that everybody keeps raising. They keep saying about, well, all cops are not bad cops. Like, where are the good cops intervening in the bad cop situations? I think you have to make that a new training tool. Right. You have to break that code. You got to train people to say, hey, you may fucking up. You can do this to everybody else. But if you see it with somebody you work with. Now what you have to do is break that cycle. Right. And you have to break that mentality. And people have to understand. Blue wall of silence, right? See? Yeah. You know, you said that. And it was so eloquent to the point that we need to make sure that you are no longer able to stand by while somebody, and it doesn't matter who it is. Right. Is committing a crime. Right. And George Floyd happened after we had our conversation. Right. That was murder. There's no other way to look at it. Right. And I have said publicly that the officers that stood by and watched that deserve life in prison as well. Right. Those things have to be not necessarily taught to your point, but exposed to say it's okay to really intervene. But why is it like that? Why isn't that already implemented? If they know that there are bad cops doing bad things and there are good cops doing good things. We're, I'm saying, what's the disconnect at the police station? Not the people. What is the culture that these people feel threatened to say, hey, you can't be killing people. We got to take the heat for this. The same entirely as the streets to meet. Exactly. But what I'm saying though is like, if you're going to go out and you're going to take the same heat for some shit that you have, you don't want to be, like, you don't want to be bunched up with the bad apples. Where is the disconnected with like these people over here ain't taking that shit. But you have to make sure it's okay. You have to make sure it's okay. And here's the thing we got to keep in mind. A good cop, nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop. That's hard to believe right there. Well, when you have people, and this is the thing we have to get to, we have to get back to the community to make sure people understand that our hearts are bigger than our badges. Right. And as long as we keep that in mind, and it starts with customer service. So, and we have to, and you asked me last time, how do we, not necessarily train our way out of this, but how do we retool this? Right. We have to figure out how to fly this law enforcement airplane and rebuild it at the same time. And it starts with these conversations. Right. A lot of police chiefs, a lot of shares, people scared to come in here and have this conversation. But this is a real conversation. Right. And as long as we can have a real conversation, then I get better, we get better. Right. And we can close that gap. Right. I know that it's a disconnect between the way the law is enforced amongst us and everybody else. And I learned this firsthand in my neighborhood that I live in now. It's a majority white neighborhood. You better move. No, I know. Right. It's crazy. You're getting the fuck out of this. Some neighbors, some neighbors that live, you know, across from me had a full on domestic dispute outside in the front yard. I'm talking about fist fighting. Fuck you. You kidding me? Alcoholic. I mean, it was going down. Yeah. And the police never came. They never came. They never, I don't know if they were called or not, but they never showed up. I know, if I'd have been outside aggressively helping them up, fuck it, the police would have been called. So with, in those situations, how do you find a solution for the difference and the imbalance between the law applying to everybody else and black people? So let me start here. If you saw this occurring, right, was somebody feeling threatened in the conversation? Yeah. I'm talking about that white man rage. It was going down. Fuck you, asshole. You got me, bro. I was very terrified. But I was afraid to call the police because I know if I call the police, they going to fuck with me. That's the way I feel. And you feel like that, and that's the perception, right? But I'd have called the police. No. I'd have called the police. That is against the law. That is against the law, man. As a black man, you can't call the police. For nothing. For nothing, because it's like, you get to a point, and this is just from experience. My father was murdered, uncles murdered, uncles in jail, cousins in jail, countless numbers of friends who suffered the same fate. And we know that if something is going on, if me and this guy get into a dispute and the police are called, then everybody else who's present is in danger. Everybody. It doesn't, I can't, as a black man, I can't feel like all these black men, and you, the sheriff, I feel like if somebody called the police and they came in here now, we still in danger with the sheriff in this motherfucker because we all black men, and people feel like it's too many of them for it to be safe. There's no way I can handle this situation safely without calling 19 calls. And I mean, you got a gun. Every police officer has a weapon, so I don't understand why you need 19 different police officers to show up to diffuse a situation between two people. So let me ask this. Would you have felt more comfortable if there was an officer living in your community that you could lean on? It depends on how cool we is. You know what I mean? I smoked a blunt with the nigga one time, you know what I mean? And we had a conversation about the shit. You know what I mean? If he was a cool dude, then maybe. But other than that, nah, because I know it's like, this is the way I feel. I don't come from a city with gang banging, but the police is in my mind the biggest gang in the world because they all got guns. They the only gang where everybody is strapped. Every other gang. You got a couple niggas that got some guns, but the police, everybody strapped. And when they come, and they not just strapped with a gun, they got a gun, a billy club, a taser, that slapstick shit that they use. It's your whole, you got a Batman belt of fucking nigga up. That's just the whole thing. But to your point, right, that tool belt, what we need to add to it is the ability to say my first reaction in every conversation, right, after you know the scene is safe, is how do we diffuse or get you home safely? If we add that to that tool belt, right, from training, it has to be repetitive. We add that to that tool belt that I know I shouldn't be reaching for my gun when this is my next door neighbor. Right, we gotta figure this out. And so my question is this, what's your suggestion? My suggestion? My suggestion personally is I don't think that you should be able to be a police officer if you're scary. And police gotta stop creating crimes too. When I say creating crimes, it's like if they show up and they say, what's the problem, let me see your license. You are who you say. It shouldn't be all that extra shit. All that, hey man, look, you gonna see no problems going on over here. Please go find the murderers in the crooks and motherfuckers, don't just take me to jail because you got a whole bunch of black people over here. It's some shit going on. Like once they're there, they came to take somebody. That's my point. They don't get in the car and leave. But that's my point. We should make the first encounter and the thought process of it's not a crime for us to be here. Right, it's not a crime for us to be here. But believe me, on the other side of that, people saying earlier, once they come though, somebody is going to jail. We had something to change. Right. Now here's the thing. Most of the time they show up because somebody called them. But we want to stop all these phantom ass calls too. Because if we out here kicking it and we know ain't no neighbors, where they getting these calls from? But you can go back to every 911 tape. I don't believe that now. I don't. Go back and sign the call. I feel like you shouldn't be able to be a police officer if you're scary. And what I mean by scary is you see these reactions in these situations with these innocent people, unarmed people of keel. And you see the reaction to when somebody is shadowed. When they pull their gun it's just, all right, put your fucking, you can just tell, now you scary. You know what I mean? You are scary. That should be, fuck a questionnaire. You should be put in random situations throughout your training with some shit just happening. Now y'all gotta settle, you can set it up to where it just be the police and y'all do it amongst each other but when a motherfucker born in this house had to remember to jump out the bushes on his ass. Ooh, I got it. Y'all love training so much. This training, all right, you should be, if you wanna be the police officer, you gotta go to one of these little redneck ass Georgia counties with a gun in the car and then get pulled over by the police. So you can see, yeah, that's it. The police gotta go through real police. You got a real police situation. I'm talking about some police who don't know nothing about this police okay and shit. They gonna search the car and violate your teacher like a regular citizen. Then when you come back, if you still wanna do it, then you can be the police. Well, so a couple things we need to, and we gonna stop acting like police just be by the book too Pat. You know they, you know they be doing people dirty. Not at all. You knew. Let's unpack this right quick. You do found a way to get me, I mean like, hold up, wait, don't tell him yet. Wait, he gonna unpack this part. Let's unpack this part first. And this is, and I said this last time, right? Young men that become police officers, young women that become police officers, and you can be a police officer at 20, 21, right? 20 going into the academy in long 21, that kind of thing. And what we do is we put them in high stress situations, right? And we talk about law enforcement in general. But give me an example. Let's give me an example. Those things happen. So you put them in this environment where the training is just as you said, right? You're not jumping out the bushes, but their car stops, those are things, hit me out. But if we put them in a situation that the community recognizes just as you just said, right? You continue to train in that fashion. But here's the other thing, is that many of us have kids, right? I got a 21 and 22 year old, right? Men, black grown men, that I wouldn't give a gun and I certainly wouldn't put them out 11 o'clock to 7 in the morning and send them to the worst parts of town. So we have to reconfigure, restructure so we got seasoned veterans, right? So that those things don't happen. And then the other thing, and I offer this to you and Tyler, from the Tyler Chronicles, is that as I become sheriff, one of the things we can do, and I'll make sure you're involved too, Chico, is include you all in the training, right? So that you can experience it to the point that you remember when I said this. Ain't no, I ain't going for no Taser shit. But it's going to be real charged after that. Well, I got it, right? But you got to be hit with a Taser in order to carry one, right? I don't want to. You got to shoot me. You got to ride that light. You got to shoot what I got to do to get a gun then. You don't get shot to get a gun. That's stupid. But the point then is, and I said this, do you remember men in black when Will Smith went in there and he shot the little girl during his training, because she had boots on, et cetera. Well, there are opportunities for us to put you in high stress situations where these instructional machines actually shoot back, right? So I want to take Chico, bring you into this instructional machine and have this high pressure situation put together and see how you survive the situation. And so to that point, we did that with a couple preachers, a couple pastors who would always get out in front of every shooting. And now you see them be a little more sensitive because they went in there and killed everybody in the room, right? Good guys, bad guys, they're shooting everybody, right? In the name of Jesus! Well, we have to do that, right? And we have to get in front of the conversation so that you and I can really build that relationship and then tell me what we're doing we can do better, right? And tell me what we're doing wrong. And then when we do that, we grow from it. And everybody will tell you, anybody around me, I'll give you my number before we leave. And feel free to call me. And when you see things that are right, wrong, and indifferent, right? But the first thing we got to do with a sheriff's office and set the tone in law enforcement in Fulton County is focus on customer service. Have you had to deal with that late night call from one of your sons calling you about getting pulled over and you hear it in the background, they're clearly being violated and turning the goddamn phone off. And here's the crazy part, here's the crazy part. Unlike the incumbent, right? I have to have that conversation repeatedly with my son about what to do when you're stopped, all those things. What should you do when you're stopped? I ain't no way in the world my daddy would be the sheriff and I gotta worry about what I do when I get stopped. You got me fucked up. You see my grain of hair, nigga, it's that lobot, man. You got me fucked up. You better run my fucking license again. You better run it again. You see the name on the back of this. Check the address. For real. Until, until you're in Nashville and your son calls you and tells you he's on the side of the fucking road because these cops have pulled him out. They don't care nothing about you. Right. They don't care nothing about you. Now they let him on his way. Let me be clear. But see the painful part for me is he doesn't tell me this till I get home or till he gets home. Right. And I'm like son, why don't you call me? Right. So that one, every time they leave I cringe and that's one of the things that we have to learn to unwind and unpack. So you're right. It is while that may seem like an easy answer for him. Right. But he's also trying to build his own identity. Right. But it happens. It happens. And it's unfortunate that it happens. But we have to figure out how to reverse that trend. Now, I know, you know, just how does it just happen on one side? That's what I was just about to say. It's not a trend if they only doing it to certain people. And that's what I'm talking about. It's not just a random act of hey, you've been violation and you've been belligerent. This is the procedure. And this is not, this ain't just motherfuckers talking. Like everybody in this room can tell you a handful of the times where it's like, all right, this is it. We didn't went through the whole you know why I pulled you over. I got your license. They see that we good. Now here comes the dirty part. They gonna do something extra that ain't got shit to do with none of this. We can go from you said I've written the stop sign to now which one is it? Obviously. Well, I mean, look, let me be honest with you. There is no transparency. They tell you, we'll get to that part later. That's the procedure. But we got to change that. And to your point, to your point, when you say everybody in that room, that includes me. So I had my badge in my back pocket and I'm up there in Cobb County. And I'm 20 years old. You see how every black man that know Atlanta starts shaking. What you doing? That's right. That's right. But I'm 20. I wasn't running for office at the time. Right. And to be treated the same way you just spoke of, right. The procedure. It gives me real life experience to say once I become sheriff, we got to change that dynamic. Right. We got to change it. We got to change it because you know, our youth and the people that are protesting are demanding quality service. We have to be able to deliver quality service. Right. And it starts with customer service. And so the one thing about me that you'll find is different than most, especially different than the incumbent, I'll give you my number. I answer the phone. Right. But what we teach, somebody, one of you just asked me a few minutes ago what do we teach in terms of our youth and our kids, we teach that you got to survive the stop. You can't hold court on the side of the road. Right. And so when my son called me from Nashville and he said, daddy got us on the side of the road. Listen, don't hold court out there. I don't need your video taping. Now you can cut on the phone and put it down. Let me be clear. Right. To get some good documentation is what I call it. But you don't need to be really anti-police at that moment. You first got to survive the stop. Right. Right. Because I know you've got plenty of good lawyers. Right. You got to get back to them first. You got to get them. You got to survive the stop. You got to survive the stop. You got to survive the stop. But just like you said, I know the procedure. And then she'll go and tell you, I'm the most thorough motherfucker when it comes to the procedure. Because it's like, I know how one second can change into forever. A bad second. So it's like, even if I'm dead as wrong, I'm not going to fucking make this shit no more difficult. But what you don't want to be is dead as right. But that's what I'm saying. Right. Even if I know I violated it at some point. Because it's like, I know sometimes shit just happening. You may see the motherfuckers behind you. You may have swerved it. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to make sure that it ain't shit in here that's going to make you take it to the next level. I can take that because I know it's a certain violation. They come with a traffic violation. But then if we got to go through the hole back and forth, then the shit didn't there by the time the other motherfuckers come. Now we got a whole ass whooping weight now sad. And we can't get out the car at this point. Right. Right. So we know what levels that they operate on. Right. So I'm trying to keep that shit as, hey, you ain't got no problems. I'm a 37-year-old grown-ass man. We got the lights on. Look, whatever you need to look through, we're not even friendly to do all that and go get the war on shit. If you believe it's in here, it's your job to find the Mr. Officer. But I'm just going to keep it real with you. It's not in here. It smells like it's in here but it ain't in here because when you hit the lights, I hit my lights and whatever you're looking for, it's not here. It's not here. It's not here. It's not here. It's not here. It's not here. I got you. I'm trying to be honest with you, but if you want to waste your time searching this car, you can lift the hood. It ain't in here, Mr. Officer. It smells like it. It smells like it. I know that, but it ain't. It's a lot of people, you know, that don't want change and want things to say the same. I agree. It's a foreign game to them. I agree. It's a lot of people who are totally fine with the way that the infrastructure is set up now within the police department. So how do you plan on standing up against those people? Because unlike us, they have, you know, monetary resources that they pool together. Yeah, they have numbers. They got numbers. They got resources. And they come in with money and they demand. In union. In union. We don't have, unfortunately, we haven't been given that opportunity. So you, being an advocate for, you know, the change, how do you feel like you're going, you know, speak truth to power in those regards? So there are a couple of things that have to happen. First, I got to get elected. Right? Yes, sir. So we got to get out and vote. Yes, sir. That's the important thing, right? But I'm not scared of that piece. Matter of fact, somebody, an actual city council member asked me, he said, you're not scared of the changes that you're proposing and some of the powers that be? I'm not scared of that. I'm not scared because their community, our communities, want change. And I want you to be able to hold me accountable, right? So if a sheriff deputies stops you and you get less than professionalism out of the conversation, whether you were right, wrong or indifferent, right? I want you to be able to pick up the phone and call me and say, hey, Pat, listen, this is what happened, right? Because if you hold me accountable, I can hold them accountable, right? And it starts to change the system. I want everybody in this room to say, you know what? That's my sheriff, right? That's my sheriff's office. And I'm proud of what they're doing. And they're going after these real bad guys. I got a question. That's what I think the difference is. Like, you saying, you want people to say, that's my sheriff, but the reality is in our communities, we want to look and say, man, that's my nigga. I got, but that's OK. That's my nigga. Because applying the police aspect to it makes it, you on the other side of what we believe in. If I look at you and be like, man, sure, he got me. That's my, that's my nigga right there. He ain't going to let nothing bad happen. And that takes a level of effort to create that amount of trust in our communities because it doesn't exist. So I think that a lot of that comes from, like I said, just the police not having to understand it. I've never seen a black police officer and been like, man, he going to treat me different because he looked like me. And not even being black, but just a police officer in general, me and Los got pulled over. It was with Indiana. We got pulled over in Indiana. And the police came. It was one police. And then when that second car come up, you already know, nigga, we going to jail. But then when I saw who got out the car, it was Carol Baskins. She did not look like an officer. You know, like the lady who do the paperwork, I just think they sent her, because they would show at hand. She was not a, no help. But the way they treated us during the stop, I mean, they stood, stood us up against the car, ran all through our car. One of the officers trying to take my hat off. Why? You got that on there tight. Don't you? Grab my hat. Grab the hat. Just violated my personal space and violated our personal space. And then you know what we got. All right, man. Well, in the great state of Indiana, don't do this down the third. Go on about your way. I don't have any way to go to say, man, hey, man, I'm my personal rights. And they grabbed my hat. It's a very sensitive part of my ensemble. I don't like that shit. What can be done about officers out here violating my personal space? Like, is there something that can be done to where in the communities, if you violate somebody or, and they have a, you know, a valid complaint about being violated by an officer, is there something that can be put in place to where they have to come into the community and really serve? You got to come around here and cut grass for free. Let me ask you this, what happens with these officers who complain? What happens after somebody makes a complaint and then they do the investigation, the same people who are fucking violated? What happens after? So the question become in this scenario is the investigation sustained? Right. Is it, if the investigation is sustained, people are suspended, right? There are people that get fired because of it. These things happen. A lot of people just simply don't hear about it. As well as, you know, it's just, we hear about the shootings, we hear about the rest of that, but what we want to do is create an environment where complaints are, one of the things we had at the city was an anonymous tip line, right? And you actually go through, well, we know what the whole concept is in our neighborhoods, right? We have to break that cycle though and we have to be bold enough to say, okay, this was wrong. This is how I felt, right? And let us deal with it. Right. You don't really want people to tell you how shit. People will die. They got to live in the neighborhoods after they been told everything. But you also want to be treated. You want to be treated professionally. Let me ask you this. Georgia is well known for being a hotbed for hateful activities. Like the KKK still has a presence in Georgia to this day. What is law enforcement doing about that? This is like a legit terrorist organization for the last 200 years. So it's a couple of things we got to keep in mind and we mentioned this earlier. Georgia was created as a prison state, right? When the colonists came over, Georgia was a prison state. So it never has fully evolved from that, right? In terms of the number of incarcerations, et cetera. But at the same time, do you say that these individuals whether it be the Klu Klux Klan or the skinheads or whoever, right? Have they committed a crime, right? That you can prove, right? Or is it the Black Panther Party? Have they committed a crime that you can prove? So the commission of a crime, regardless to who it is, is one that should be investigated thoroughly. I don't know, but that's the thing. We might not have committed a crime that they can prove, but we definitely do crimes that they can make up. You know what I mean? They can make up a crime. Yeah, we're saying they'll do that. I don't feel like you've got to do something. I know so many motherfuckers locked up for doing nothing. But to your point, right, we have to change the mentality that goes along with, I've heard police officers say over the years, if you follow a car long enough, you can find a reason to stop it. That sound racist as hell. Well, not necessarily racist. It doesn't matter which car you're following. But a good police officer can find, it doesn't mean good from a moral standpoint. Someone that is technically sound can find a reason to stop that car if they're technically sound enough to do it. We've got to change that mentality. So what's your tail light broken? What's wrong with me coming up and saying, you know, Chico, hey, your tail light's broken? Nothing. That would be awful. So we've got to change the mentality. We've got to change the mentality. How many times do you think they're going to let you slide? You get two of them broken tail lights. Now your lights are suspended. When are you going to fix your tail lights? Now you get pulled over. When are you going to fix your tail lights? Your tail light out. That's fairly charged now in Georgia because they got the new law, two tail lights, and you're out of here. No, you go. You're making up laws. Shit, that's what y'all be doing. That's exactly what y'all be doing. You know, it's like, don't... Look at the police laughing. He knows. It's a piece of that that should be accounted for too. Like, you know what I mean? The police is supposed to serve and protect. You know what I mean? They didn't ever say what they would serve and protect. And that's exactly just two words that is used to describe the police and what they're supposed to do to serve and protect. They might want to change this. If I get pulled over with a tail light, you know what I'm saying, or whatever it may be, where I come from should be taken into account. Oh, this person lives in a neighborhood that I know is, you know, downtrodden and messed up. So, we're going to do something to make sure that you have the resources to help, to show that it's not just about making sure that you follow the law, but making sure we serve and protect you. We want to protect you from having to, like you said, get me home at night. You shouldn't want me to go to jail. Like, you shouldn't look for a reason to call the police officer to get me in jail. But, like I said, that program that's set up to where the money runs shit, then they come in and say, hey, man, we're going to get fucked about that. We need more of them guys in here so we can make these license plates for 10 cents a day. You know what I'm saying? What made people ever think that to serve and to protect, they meant people. That's not what they're doing. They're serving and protecting the law. Stop thinking that shit is, they're not here to help you and be your fucking hero. They're serving this law. You know what they do? They serve you them papers. They serve in the law. They protect them the law. But we have to do holistically, we have to do better. Just change the slogan plate. It ain't about you. We're serving and protecting the law. We'll whoop your ass. Then throw a piece of sand at something. Just let people know what's going on. We got to make this shit sound better than it is. We got to change, just like you said. We got to change. And that olive branch becomes an opportunity for us to sit down and continue to have these conversations and how we get better about it. I'm just going to let y'all know y'all won. It ain't about winning. It's the hell it is. Y'all got all the weapons, all the tanks, all the shotguns, all the bullets, all the dogs, all the fast cars. Criminals don't stand a chance in this America no more. It ain't fun no more. Y'all overdue everything. 20 police on one nigga. Get his legs, get his elbows. I think he had a horse. Handcuff this nuts. Man, man, you remember cops and robbers? Robbers at least had a chance to get around the corner. Pow, pow, pow. Shoot the tile, throw more blocks. Not a shit hand right there. Helicopter showed up with a tank on it. Police blew the motherfucker up. There's nothing... Look, there's nothing to investigation. It was a suspect. Leave him alone. What you know the interesting piece and you brought up a really good point and that is how do we attract younger people too long? Do you want more athletic officers? Well, they need to be. But how do we attract young people from our generation and from our neighborhoods? And I agree. It's not military, but the other thing that we have to do and I think this will help in our communities is we have to do a better job of making sure that we can mentally unpack what happens on a daily basis. And what I mean is, for 30 years, the first time I got a psych test, psych evaluation, was when I was trying to get a job. And so all the things that you see on a given night... And that's my point. That's something else we have to change. But at least when an incident occurs, how can we do a better job of getting services so that they can unpack as well? So say, for instance, you win this election, right? When I win it. When do you win? I'm just hypothetically speaking. Live. Blaine, how would you... I don't know what it's called. It's your sheriff's department. We're kind of culture since we're talking about the cultural... What do you like to have in your outfit? What are going to be some of the requirements to work around or under Sheriff LeBotte? And one of the things that I was able to do as 10 years as chief was start with customer service. My goal for everyone that was in my department and the same thing with the sheriff's office, if I cannot figure out how to help you as a customer, I don't care if you're a detainee. I don't care if you get stopped on the side of the road, whatever it is. If I can't help you as a customer, I haven't done my job. If I cannot add value to whatever is happening, whether it be a stop or whether you stopped on the side of the road, how many times has anybody seen somebody stopped on the side of the road and you see police officers and sheriff's department fly right by them? Right? I figured they had some more important shit to do. They should be able to help. And this is the other thing that you hold true is, especially in law enforcement, it seems to be that people become more patient about 30 minutes before time for them to get off. Right? I can't tell you all that. Well, you said they'd be more patient 30 minutes. You just want to know where that is. Yes, so I can be out with no police with ships at 6 o'clock. Man, they might let us go or something. No, but my point is we should pack that all the way through our shifts. We should pack that patience all the way through our shifts and add value. And so if... Every shift's too long. In some instances? Or maybe we should go to 12 hours and give them more off time. Right? So there are things to be able to do that. Oh, no, y'all don't need no more benefits. Y'all got every... Y'all ain't getting shit else. Well, they ain't about it. Keep using what you've been using. But if we continue to do it, we're always done. Y'all get too much shit. You gotta be able to attract people. You gotta be able to retain good quality offices and deputies. And that's part of it. And so one of the things that we have to do is be able to really create that attraction. One of the things I'm going to do is... What? Listen to me. How about a SWAT team with the average... See, there you go. But you didn't let me finish. I want a SWAT team where the average age is less than 24 years old. So now we got young offices coming in in an IT field where they can go after these pedophiles. They can go after these criminals. Atlanta's number two for sex trafficking. Right? We can go after these folks. But now you have recruited a younger force. Somebody say, I'm proud to be a part of the sheriff's office at this young age. We're going to need an old force, too, for these old white ladies who call in the police. They need a task force, too. Ain't nothing you ain't working on them for them? We want you to... If you see something, we want you to say something. But they making up shit. You seen the videos? All you got to do is be black. They call in and they tell in the police. They're out here and they're dancing and they got music and barbecues everywhere. But check this out. She also lost her job. You're not supposed to have no barbecues elsewhere. But she lost her job. Right? And he survived that situation. And that's the important thing, is that we have to be able to continue... Hope is not a strategy. But we have to really lean in toward making sure these conversations continue. I want you to let all the officers know that the black community is not anti-police, man. We're tired of the one-sided brutality in the mistreatment. If that's what the police are going to do, everybody has to violate everybody. Don't just treat my community messed up. And that's why I want to turn to this camera and say it. Because it might be some officers out there who wonder, do the black people not like us? We don't. It's only because you don't like us. Thank you. And the certain aspects of... We write those certain aspects of policing just don't apply to us. Like, I've seen other people get pulled over. Right the ticket, you fucking asshole. You fucking dickhead. You didn't have anything better to do. There was nobody trapping, huh? You couldn't go fuck up the trap. Where's the Andre Pat? Give me your damn bash number. I'm going to call my congressman. You'll be out of work in the morning. You'll never work in this town again. And that could be real. Where is the task force for them? And if we get pulled over and be like, what'd you say, officer? Put that goddamn phone down. He's got a gun. It's just the difference of the enforcing of the law. Here's the thing we got to keep in mind. A lot of this has been going on for years. I know, and I ain't mad because you ain't saying nothing about it. Right, but here's the thing. I'm just mad at what she said. I ain't all your fault. Here's the thing. Here's what you got to keep in mind. In leadership, you got to be able to accept and then figure out how we get better. You have had to discipline the officer for like being a dirty officer. I have fired people for being a dirty officer. After the investigation though, right? Yeah, I got to give them due process. I got to give them due process. I got to give them due process. I have fired people and civilians have brought them back to work. Wow. Because they said I was being too harsh. Oh really? I mean those things happen. And these are a civilian review board of their peers. When I say their peers, I mean our community. I don't mean police officers or correction doctors. You never been at work and then just look around the jail and be like, how did they catch all of these black people with no white folks? Well let me tell you something. When I first started, because I'm from here, went to Frederick Douglass High School. Every Friday night I walk in there, and I would say, there's 400 people in here. How come 15 away? Are people not calling the police? And that's the key, right? We call the police on each other. We're not calling the police because somebody is singing too loud in the choir. We call them police because something is happening. And we just have to figure out how to better serve. And what I mean is this, we have an issue associated with it. We have to make sure that we are always going to say armed with the resources. I do you go say that. But we got to make sure we got specialists. Nothing come take care of our mentally ill. And so we have to get better at it. And that's the key. I know me. I always think, we know you can't really say anything to this because it's probably going to be bad for your base, but sometimes they should be able to sell a little bit of dope, man. See, now you're pushing it, man. I know it sound crazy, but I mean, come on, man. You're pushing it. I got to go to jail for this bullshit. You know what I'm doing. I'm not out here trying to fuck the community up. They do need to change. They do need to change some drug laws. Let me be clear. There's some good drug dealers out there that look out for the community when nobody else will. Well, let me be clear. Especially if you're a responsible drug dealer and you're selling your drugs to adults who go to work for their money. All right, this is getting too political. I had you all for a minute. I had you all. But let me be clear. If you break the law, and I'm the sheriff. And he the sheriff. He ain't going to jail. He ain't going to jail. But you know that, right? I don't sell drugs. I ain't never sold drugs. Because I'm impulsive. But that's what I'm saying, man. I'm good at marketing. Hey, who needs some drugs? The leniency that is applied across to everybody else should be applied to us as well. I shouldn't have to... You pulling up on me and catching me with something especially as a black man. You know what I mean? You understand the trials and tribulations that we face in these communities. And a lot of that stuff is passed down. It's not something that we went and learned. We got it inherited. It was given to us. So I'm saying that leniency that's given to Chad, no disrespect Chad. But you know, you got that Caucasian name. They ain't going to let him slide either. Don't Chad straight. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Don't do this anymore, alright? I'm going to take this from you. I'm going to let you go about your way. I'll catch you again. It's over with. Like, how do you... Is that not something that's realistic that can be done? Because that's how you create a difference in opinion about the police. Like, okay, they not just trying to fuck me over for making mistakes. That's how you change the mentality of a young person. But is that a mistake? Everything I did in the streets was just because of willful ignorance and me not knowing no better. He wasn't selling drugs in the streets. That's why I was going. It's all hypothetical. At a certain point, if you want people to have positive outlooks on the police, I know that if I'm a black man and I got a son and I'm out trying to provide make a way in whatever way I'm doing it, whether it be legal or illegal, if the police and purposes is illegal, when I come back in the house and be like, man, Sheriff LeBant, he a good dude. I'm telling that to my children, now they don't have the same mentality because you did something for me to help me and not just punish me because I made a mistake. Now you catch me again, it's over with. And I got it, right? Hypothetically. Here's the thing that you got to keep in mind. What is untold is the number of times somebody has stopped somebody for DUI and said, do you have a girlfriend that can come pick up the car? Or do you have somebody? Again, don't say that. I don't know. But at the same time, how do you sit and say this is an absolute? Because it's up to, it is your absolutely right and what I'm hearing is it's the officer's discretion. These things happen because we're not talking about you getting stopped and you got 10 pounds of weed in the car. I'm talking about somebody with half an ounce of Reggie and he been selling this for six months. He just trying to get the Reggie off. It's hard to sell. I'm almost done. I almost got it all the way off now and I get stopped and now I got to go to jail after all this hard work. You can take this shit I was about to sell and lock me up for the Reggie. So now the question becomes they don't lock you up. How many of us said, whew, I got away. Let me start over with my Reggie. I mean, that comes at you right. So the second time you okay with getting the rest of the second time? Yeah, because that's on you. If you one of the motherfuckers that's so horrible of a drug dealer that you get caught that should be your sign. It's not for you champ. It's a blessing and you got caught and ain't go to jail and you get caught again, that's on you. But I think that there should be some form of leniency because a lot of these elements in our community sheriff, we don't have any control over these. The guns and the dope and all that was put there. We don't have the ability to be able to utilize these things on our own. It's generational. Everything that's had my father was murdered. So I grew up without a father in the home. I was lucky enough to learn how to be responsible early not to make the decisions that a lot of my peers made. But at the end of the day, I could have because there is no guidance there. And this is going on all across America. So at this point, I think that that level of leniency should be applied to us because of the years and years of systematic oppression that have happened. And it's like, I know that you are struggling with something that you have no control over. So I understand that I understand that. So do I know that or assume that? I mean, depending on the situation. Yes, I mean, you got to know that. Like a lot of times, that mind you, you go to the suburbs, lock all the motherfuckers up, they deserve to go to jail. Let me tell you what we're going to do when I'm sheriff. It doesn't matter where we are. Suburbs, inner city. If you break the law, your ass is going to jail. But there are things that we can do better. We certainly want to execute discretion. We certainly want to want to use that. But even how many times has somebody been locked up and say, you know what? I was treated professionally. I knew you were going to say that. This is what we got to change. And now I got an opportunity. Now I got an opportunity. So they're both sides to that. And certainly I don't compare and certainly your father being not in your life because somebody else took him. My father wasn't in my life because of my choices. His choices. Let my little brother go. It's all good. But the point being is I had to figure out if I'm going to carry that anger around or figure out how to do better. And to your point, I was a left turn away from making some bad choices. Right. And that's what I'm saying, Sheriff. That process that you go through, you're going to slip and bump your head in that process of figuring it out because the options for us to do is we can do a very slim and limited. But that's why. So therefore in that process, if you know, if you see that this environment is treacherous and this person is trying to make sense of whatever their reality is and you come in contact with the police, there should be some sort of discretion or just empathy towards these people to where you say, hey, young man, come here, man. I know what you got going on. Look, I ain't going to crack you over the head, but I'm telling you, man, you're going. If I catch you again, if I catch you out here again, you're going. And that right there does so much for police interaction. I think it would do so much for police interaction in our communities because you know that you're not just there to serve and protect the law. You're really here for my best interests and you're proving to me that I can trust that you actually care about my situation. They got too many cold words to where there's a high concentration of black people. I don't like the words and the verbiage that they use to try to make it seem like there's always a clear and present danger. They always say cram-infested community. What the fuck is a cram-infested community? But that's why we got to get in the communities and be a part of the communities. So you can have those conversations. I tell you more often than not. But do you know a lot of times that those presences make shit worse because it adds to the tension and the pressure and the struggle of trying to get out of this place and then you're doing what you have to do and trying to survive this environment. And then there's this constant presence of if you have this interaction you know that this is going to go bad just because you're where you're located and you're in what you call a high-traffic, cram-infested community, which really just means where black people live. So let me ask this. If we're in that environment and you see me walk up what you're going to say? No, no. I'm going to say you see me walk up. I don't mean the deities. They're going to have that in the system. You've got to catch Chico baby. I am on foot. We've got a fleer. We've got a fleer. But that's what I'm saying. If we're in that environment and you walk up I know you ain't looking for me because wouldn't the sheriff come out? He's serving that big warrant. Exactly. See, I know the process, Pat. I'm not even a criminal. I'm staying. If you're walking around the neighborhood and it's one bag right there. Carlos, come here. How you doing? Now all the niggas in the hood think I know you. Now you're going to be coming back looking for one of them because they're going to fuck me up as soon as you leave. The police ain't even spoke to that boy. Exactly. But here's the question, right? He spoke to that boy. He knew them folk, man. He knew them folk. I knew that boy with police in here. But, Los, how do we change that? How do we change that? The police houses, they finance and they buy it. That leniency, through creating the element of leniency in regards to our communities, don't put nobody in these communities that don't truly understand what we're going through. And I'm not talking about the bitch-ass niggas out the community that go be a police so they can come back and act for men. I'm talking about somebody who really understands and gets what these people are going through. And if you're going to be in our community and you see the things that are going on, you know, man, this dude ain't out here doing this because that's what he want to do. And since they want to do that, and I'm not cutting you off, this is my last thing I'm saying, but like you saying the police need to be in the communities, it needs to be some kind of way. If they're going to put these offices in these areas and you know that it's crime infested and you know that it's impoverished, they need to go back and check with the residents and get a quarterly or yearly evaluation and take those you know those stories in their account with this officer, he known for doing this. He violate people like this because that's how these offices become known in the neighborhoods for all the wrong shit that they do. Well here's the thing though, right? And let's take this opportunity instead of being fleet of foot, instead of taking off when you see me, right? We've had this conversation. So Lois instead of you you know, hey, you know what, I know Pat. Exactly. So we can build that some point. You got the police, you might have to run. If you caught me wrong I might have to give you the chase. So I could give myself a chance. That's my whole point. So I can just take this flea in charge instead of this other way. But you just made my point, right? Well, and that's why I say conversations like this build trust. Right? So if I roll up and matter of fact you ready to jump on me tonight? Because you let him talk. You pulled up just like a street dude. You just roll the window down. I know you. I don't know him. Now if I fuck around and then I talk to him and he jump out. He undercover. You was there the whole time and I ain't never see you. But what made you comfortable enough to talk? He was black. What made you comfortable enough to talk? I just told you. He rolled that window down. You peeked through there. You recognized me. Yeah, I'm definitely not that dumb. This ain't selling him shit. How you gonna send the undercover? I know him. You said in the community, bro. In the community. You gonna bring your boys to my trap? Hey, hey. Oh, we gonna have a runoff. He tells the story because the first thing that happened when that window rolled down, he looked, before he looked at me, because we didn't know which warehouse was at, right? I'm telling you the truth. He wasn't running. I act like I didn't know what he was talking about. He showed it. 85, he would guarantee me how to get to 85. What? Why you won't know? What's going on? Then he recognized me. Which is my entire point. Which is my entire point. He just made my point. If we can build that kind of trust, just from one interview, right? And even now, then anything's possible. And I really believe, I'm telling you, building that trust with the officers comes with leniency. Because in the communities, it's one of the only options that we've been given for monetary gain. And then you gotta keep in mind, in the area that we live in there, the shit y'all consider illegal is his way of life. That's what I mean. So, when you come into the community, for me to be like, amen nah, that's pat. He cool. You got to really do something to make me feel like you cool. And that entails, for the most part, as tough as this may be, man, let me slide, man. I was out here doing something. Let me slide, pat. Man, my knee let me slide. You super confident. Yeah, damn. You got to take care of everybody. So how many kids you got, Chico? I have a daughter. I don't like daughters, but my two boys. You know, you ever tried, well, I was going to say you ever had tried to have a conversation with a high guy. It blowed. But that was a bad question to ask you. Don't be talking to people that have had that. That was a bad question to ask you. Because they can't keep up with the conversation. So one of their friends was Heizekite, right? And he came over to the house and I'm trying to figure out why am I trying to have a conversation with him, right? But it leans back to what you were saying. It's really going back to say there's a better time to have this conversation. If there is no harm that can come of their friend, right? If there is harm, or they have the potential to harm somebody else, what's going to happen? So that's what I mean, right? But we have to build that trust because just as equally as much or equally as important is if you want me to trust if you want me to trust you to trust me. I got to trust you. Right, which is cool, but like I said, man, I really believe there should be some type of whether it be under the table, shit. Y'all don't snitch on each other and shit at the office. So, hey, get the cops together that's like, look, man, if you won't be over there you're gonna catch some motherfuckers damn bad, but hey, let them rock if you know, give them a shot to understand look, we are here to enforce the law but I understand what's going on. All the things that you just said and explained to us, they got the citizens program they got all these different programs you can go get involved in to counteract that. So the fact that you didn't know I'm just gonna let, I'm gonna consider the fact that you didn't know and me catching you up bad right now. So now that you know there is no excuse for you for me to ever have to come back here and see you doing the same thing. And I don't disagree with you, but I think what happens is there are a lot of good officers out there, a lot of good deputies out there, where those things happen, but it's not publicized. Yeah. Right. And I can tell you there are a number of officers that have allowed people to say, you know what, I don't want to tell you a car, man. But you're licensed to spend it. Right. That's the only really non-discretional piece in the whole process of somebody going to jail. You're licensed to spend it. I didn't forget how to drive, baby. I still know how to drive. I got this. I just know that there's never been any lenient as a whole. Some people might experience it and might have been able to run into those officers who got a good heart and understand, but that is far and few between. Yeah, don't waste my leniency on the seat belt violation. Let me go when I did. Let me ask you this, though. Do you feel like officers know the difference between criminals and civilians? Because I feel like some civilians are being treated like criminals. So here's the first thing I'd ask you, what's the difference? What's the difference? A criminal is the age. Can a civilian be a criminal? Can a civilian be a criminal? Yeah, the difference is getting caught. My point. You are a civilian until you get caught doing some criminal shit. You just made my point. I'm in a career criminal. You're a criminal. You do this shit all the time. But it doesn't make you a criminal. But if you're a criminal tonight, you ain't a criminal yet. You just did some crap. You got to go to court and go to jail and then when you get home, then you're a criminal. A criminal doesn't graduate it through the justice system already. So here's what I prefer to say instead of determining if you're a criminal or if you're a citizen. If you're a repeat offender and you are especially violent repeat offenders, here's the thing that we have to really focus on. That's what y'all should do. You should have the ass-whooping package for people who like violence. Get them some violence. But people who fucking up in traffic, they don't deserve the violence package. So here's what we're going to focus on. Get your ass-whooped for going 97. That's a nice car. You're going to beat me up because you mad my shit fast. Until you lose control of it and kill somebody. Ass-whooping. The point I'm making is this. 40 to 50% of the violent crimes are created by less than 500 people. We know who they are. Whoop they ass y'all don't mind going to people house doing shit and not letting. And that's the only way we start with that is when I get elected. So you mean to say when you get elected violent motherfuckers getting ass-whooped? I'm coming out for you again because I stood in line for a whole hour and I was like man I'm going to go buy on the Sprinter van that had your face coming up in HD. I'm like look at my boy with the line up. Skin clip. And then I went to the library and I voted. I appreciate it. We ain't going to keep your head out because we can talk this shit out. You family to us. You the uncle that's the police now. You know what I'm saying? You the uncle that's the police now. We wish you much success. Any other questions from the floor? Where can they vote? Great question. So early voting is already started. You got mine in. Early voting will run through August 7th. Early voting on the weekend this weekend and next this Saturday and next the actual election date is August 11th. And so the largest place to vote when we talk about it early is State Farm. You can certainly go to my website LaBotte for share and pull up all the early voting locations. Again I do want to give a shout out to Fulton County who went from 6 early voting locations to 20. So over in Wolf Creek area the reported lines will maybe take 3 minutes to vote. So they've done a much better job. We don't expect that your team did a great job getting your signs out. I've been seeing them all through my life and I appreciate it. Everybody in the community definitely got a lot of support and we appreciate you coming through the A to Z show. Anything you need from us you just let us know. You're more than welcome to use our platform. I appreciate it. Even after this and you win and you've got things coming up that you need the community to be a part of we definitely want to come out there. I want you all to be a part of a harder conversation because you all will be a part of the solution. We had to make the second round harder because we let you slide the first time. Then we got through in the comments they were like man why y'all ain't asking about prison reform. And I was like we only had so much. We just was busting you up a little bit. I love it. I appreciate it. How we'll get better. And so certainly thank you all for allowing me to platform. People what kind of guy you really are man and they know what type of guys we are. We want you to be in here answering the hard shit first because if you can deal with us talking like we talk and them press conferences and all that other stuff that's a blessing. That's a blessing. And certainly thank you all and if it's anything you need I'm here. Let's continue the conversation. That's all I want. Just that one where they put the flash lighted on if you didn't see it. Just give me a couple of them. There you go. So again I enjoyed it. Ask me what question they asked the officer when he pulled me over. You know the lunch is at 6 o'clock disease. Hey man go ahead. There you go. The watchman is watching the watch. What you watching? Pat. I'm surprised. Most of the time they tell you where you can call them from jail. Wow. I ain't need these shit. I'm not the sheriff yet. We got to get there. And then the other piece is we have to create a balance. We want to be able to say to the officers and deputies thank you for doing your job. That's what they want. That's the truth before you go. Is that what the police want? Don't you like pray? I'm just saying. I thought y'all were so tough. Don't you like being told thank you. Hey man. What have they done good? Do something. Do something. You asked what have they done lately? Good. So you look over even in the university area where several police officers and commanders went out and did nothing that was needed. Passed out gift cards. Making sure people had an opportunity to continue to feed their families. I mean it's how we rebuild trust. That's decent. 85% is we need sure Pat LaBotte. We need them to win because we don't want the person who do win to come fucking with us for fucking with him. No. They're probably happy. Let's get them in office. They don't have a platform like this to come to them. We know that we laugh and we joke and we comedians and stuff like that man. But the people heard exactly what they needed to hear. You're a real stand up dude Pat LaBotte and we wouldn't have it no other way. Ain't nobody else come on here and be the police. You're the only one. Ain't nobody else coming. You're the only one that's going to ever be who you are and did what you did. 85 stop show. My man Pat LaBotte. And we got your theme song already. I'm going to need it. Yes sir. Let's get the shot man. What's my mask? You got your mask? Let's do the Pat LaBotte mask man. Thank you baby. Joe what's the time? 12.01. We got time for one more joint. Alright babe.