 I remember going through the text of A Course in Miracles, and I remember looking at some of these sub-section titles, and one of them was Attraction to Guilt, and I said, what a title. Good thing it didn't make a pamphlet out of that. It's on the prayer, Attraction to Guilt. Can you imagine that? That's not going to be a best seller. So I read on, and you know what's right after that? Attraction to Pain. Another one. Not going to be a best seller. This is like a tough chapter as far as looking at that. And then I read on to the next sub-section. It was Attraction to Death. And I said, that is bizarre. From an ego perspective, that seems crazy. But when I read that section, he basically said, as long as you believe in an ego, you're a death worshiper. You're literally putting value where there is no value, and you're giving that a sense of worshipping. So when you go into A Course in Miracles, it takes you very deep into this death idea. And I think this is just getting your attention. These dear loved ones who are doing that is just pointing you to go inside even deeper to say, how am I attracted to death? Not so much how, like we've talked about, don't go on a witch hunt, don't try to figure it out or analyze it. But if you have any kind of reaction, like a sadness, or a grief, or anything coming up, then the way to do is go inside and give that over to the Holy Spirit, really to the core that you can, to the best of your ability. And that's really what the lesson is. It's just your own lesson. By the way, David mentioned a cartouli earlier. I just went to a quick story. I was in Vancouver, in British Columbia. I was doing a workshop there, and this guy named Dennis took me out to watch this restaurant. And we're leaving. And Vancouver has millions of people. And I wanted to be honest, you know, Dennis says to me, hey, that cartouli's here. Is that where you live? I said, ah, cool. That's actually really great. And he says, do you want to meet him? I said, you know him? He said, yeah, sure. He's the one that introduces me to him. He's fun. He's a very nice man, very good guy. And the instructor is being, the way that, you know, most enlightened people are who you meet. Just very easygoing, kind of childish in a way. You know, childlike, without wonder about them. And it's just a lot of fun, medium. And I do this podcast every now and then with my friend Gene Bogart, he's the producer of the podcast. And there's this guy named Steven who does spoofs of our podcast. It's not the real podcast, but he makes it sound like our podcast. Our podcast is pretty popular. We're off from the top 20 at iTunes and stuff like that. It goes all over the world. And this guy named Steven, when he does our podcast he imitates that cartouli. And he sounds just like me. And then he'll let me say things like, no, I can't understand what the hell I was talking about. It's a different man. It's like really funny. And he'll let me say it all the time. He's like, do you have Joker? What kind of name is that? Skiesh yourself? And at the end of our podcast, usually Gene closes the podcast by saying, no matter what the question is, forgiveness is the answer. But Steven says, no matter what the question is, Guinness is the answer. Gene's saying things like, hey, do we have time for a couple of questions for a dare? And I'll go, oh, Christ. If any of you haven't heard that, I went in there one time and I actually got into that with Steven Dunn and it was just hilarious. He just tries to exaggerate the things, the voices of mannerisms and it's just hilarious. And talk about remembering to laugh. This is how the Holy Spirit is so playful. You take something that's really like that podcast, it's very helpful around the world. People can tune in and play it whenever they want and it's spectacular. And then you get the spoof. And you know how, like the Peter Sellers movies, you know, the outtakes sometimes are funnier than the actual movie, like being there, you know, the outtakes of the other movies. So if anybody hasn't been in there, I highly recommend it. I was just laughing so much at the spoof's impersonations. Thank you. I just wanted to get a little more clarification about like the discernment part. Thank you, Kate, because I was just literally saying, like, so if you feel good about something, just let it go. Don't even worry about it. Like, so if, like, trying to pay attention to what's around you so that you maybe can get the sign closer to the symbols to move you to the right place. So if it's a positive motion, just let it go. And then if it's a negative motion, that's really to go backwards and feel like that's some unconscious guilt that you're holding on to or whatever. So if something comes up, like, keeps repeating itself. Because I was always thinking about Bruce O'Miley when he was yelling to God and he was seeing the stop signs and all the stuff. And he's ignoring the crashes into the pole. You know, it was all stuff outside of his symbols. But yeah, he wasn't looking. Were you with the one, one, one, one, one? You know, it doesn't mean anything. In discerning, like, just so I'm paying attention, being present, like, is there a helpful way to properly discern. You're saying just use the feelings. But if you feel good, then just ignore everything when you're good. To me, when I saw all these synchronicities and symbols, it's like I'm like the kid in the candy store. Wow, you know, it was just, they're very helpful. So I wasn't meaning so much, let it go. No, it's when the negative stuff comes up, then you let that go. But the other stuff was more, thank you. Like, one of the things that Barry and I think have been emphasizing here is that the spiritual journey can be enjoyable. You don't have to think of it as a heavy thing. And then, oh, in the future you can have happy times and be enlightened. You can actually have happiness now. You can have fun right now. And to me, that's what I think of when I think of those little signs and symbols that are around me. At first, when they started happening, I was like, wow. Thank you, thank you. And then it was more thank you, thank you, thank you. And then I never got complacent about it, but it was like, it reminded me of that part of the course where miracles are natural when they do not occur, something has gone wrong. I started to actually relax into that and say, okay, that's natural, then I'll expect a miracle. I will, I'm just going to ride the miracle. Kind of like an avatar, you know, where they join the animals. Yeah, there you go. And I think more than anything, it's not with Gary and I, it's not the words we're sharing. But I was, I would think that the more you get to know us, you would know that we actually do have fun. That when we have a humor point through us, it's really, it's more like the cosmic or the, it's the Holy Spirit's humor. It's a likeness, it's a playfulness. Like we was just talking about with Eckert, you know, there's a sense of wonder. You know, when your child, like, you had a sense of wonder and glee, it's so natural. Imagine interviewing like a five-year-old who was in glee saying, can you tell me why you are so happy? And, you know, it's just a state of mind and it's very, very natural. So I would just say thank you when you're getting those kind of symbols and that's what I always do. I just have gratitude. Yeah, and being that way, being joyful, shapes your entire experience. It changes the things around you, your thoughts. It's like, you know, a story I like to tell. I just want to send these favorites. I'm sorry, a four or five-year-old girl and she was eating this vanilla ice cream cone and she was just so happy and so joyous to be eating this ice cream cone. Now, a nutritionist would tell you that that is just terrible for her. You know, it's full of sugar. You know, just this terrible food that she's eating. And I saw this girl and how happy and joyous she was eating this ice cream cone and I thought, you know, there's no way that that is not going to be good for her. You know, it's going to be good for her. And, you know, you look at my Dr. Emoto's work and stuff like that, you know, and you actually change the molecules of water by the way that you're thinking about them. Well, that's true with your food also. I went to the movies once and I saw these chocolate bars at the movies and they would make my face break out. And then Arjun said to me once and said, well, why don't you try eating it without guilt? And I did and my face stopped breaking out when I ate this chocolate. And, you know, it's like your attitude and the way that you're going through life and being what the course calls, you know, a happy learner.