 and we'll go from there. If not take off, thanks so much. Now let's get into the good stuff, which would be the Q&A. Always great questions. Always good questions. LeBron James, long-term back. It's a very point, it's a good point. Tab Nebraska, great state. Rare retreat to catch a life. Thanks for coming in, I appreciate it. Good times, right? Great times. Curie Boris is right. Pullback is good. I want to impregnate the market, run too early. It's an interesting choice of words, but yes, I can see what you're going from. Ed says, okay, boomer, exactly. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Deep Vega, Oleg's funny. The Deep Vega, because I'm always saying that XRP doesn't really move, so I just call it a stable coin and people say that it's not a stable coin, Rob, it's going to go to the moon. 589, good. It is an interesting thing of that. XRP is the only one with real regulatory clarity because they beat the pants off the SEC in that lawsuit. Didn't move, it's really, really strange. I was a filthy degen. I have my degen side, right? There's a reason why Las Vegas exists. It's because people go there and gamble every so often. I used to live there actually, and it's a great place, but you know, you don't want to gamble all the time. Then you become a true degenerate. Rob can't put meme coins in a degen channel because he can't do a 40 plus minute deep dive on them. Exactly. Meme coins are worthless, I think, but they're really fun to trade if you're into that. I have some. Like I think Bonk is going to do quite well in Solana and stuff like that. When might do awesome? I don't know. We'll see. We will see. Ah, the Shaolin says, this is a good point. Charlie Munger got rich off capitalism and supported CCP authoritarianism in his later life. Pretty sure his soul is resting. We'll go with that. That sounds like a road I do not want to go down. Senator Togan says a good gain is a good gain. No money lost. Yeah, take profits, right? 100,000. I mean, it sucks when you're like, oh, I could add a million. But I mean, how many times have we all said that? How many times have we all said that in this market and said, oh, if I just, what a held on? I mean, a two X or a 10 X if it's gonna, if it's gonna 10 X then it can definitely 100 X. Yeah. Lolo says I still hodl alt coins. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. But like Ben says yesterday, don't marry any particular alt. They'll divorce you and take more than half. And that's the truth. And my answer is Bitcoin will crash at 30 bucks. Yeah, maybe. Let me ask you guys a question real quick. Any ideas that you'd like to see for any upcoming videos that we do? So I'm just trying to get some ideas coming into it. I had one from Lolo and she was, she asked a good question. Let me see if I can pull this up. It's about banks. I was Laura. And the question was, what stresses me out the most is how to and where to move my crypto when it's time to sell? I would, I would love to see this topic discussed in great details on one of your shows, how each of the exchanges works when it comes to selling, including fees limits and just how to navigate them in general. And it's a good question. We really should talk about that. And we kind of talked about it a little bit today and talking about cold storage devices, where to put things. And then of course talking to your bank if you're going to do fiat because I hear from some people that if they're normal inflows or outflows is a couple thousand dollars to 10,000 then all of a sudden they have like a million dollars come through the banks and we're like, what? That's how it is. Unfortunately banks are banks. No people will say, well, that's my money and you should do it. If you don't want any problems just go talk to your bank initially and say, look, I'm a real person. I'm not a drug cartel person. I mean, today. So if something happens, I'm expecting a windfall and this will be a massive amount of funds more so than I used to. So just be aware. And I did that in 2021 had no problems no problems with my banks. Like, okay, sure. And it was an easy thing. Ah, yeah. Sean says, still in that Peter Zion prediction for a negative Bitcoin price. Pay me to take Bitcoin. Yeah, Peter Zion. I've never seen a guy sound so smart on a subject and then so incredibly wrong. So it's a real talent, quite honestly. I end up them, actually I like some of his stuff. I mean, it's for geopolitics, it's interesting but the Bitcoin part which everybody knows him for now in the crypto community, it's just, eh, sucks. But I will remind you that Michael Saylor in 2013 essentially called Bitcoin just a gamble and it would go to zero. So, hey, it takes everybody a little bit more time. Peter makes good money making things up. Yeah, this is true. Tom's got a good point. Everyone who has an exchange account should ask them to raise your limits now. It's a good point, especially for the selling. Because like I had to do that with Coinbase last time but thankfully I learned my lesson in 2017 which I didn't really sell too much. But yeah, make sure that you talk to your exchanges because they have limits and if you just ask they usually will raise your limits for buying and selling especially the buying. They love you when you buy more stuff. And that's so keen on you selling it but for buying, no problems. Like, oh, you want to buy $100,000 a day, no problem. Write this way, sir. Tim Buck-Dupanis says, he had a debate with a coworker who says buying Bitcoin is gambling. These days, like I've said before, I'm like a lazy outfielder. Like if there's a pop fly, I'll put my glove up and I'll catch it. But I'm not running down some straight shot and dive and catch to explain to somebody. So like, I have people who ask me the same thing and I always say the same thing like when people ask me, I'm like, well, it kind of goes like this. There's a 90% chance you're going to lose everything. That's just how it is. But there's a 10% chance you can make a lot of money. So it's usually not in between. So what do you want to do? And if they say, oh, I don't have that kind of money. Great, less work for me. I can save my breath. But they're like, yeah, you know what? I want to invest a little bit. Okay, you're my guy. And I need you to hold this for four years and I need you to not lose your portfolio too much and go from there. Trust me, it helps a lot when we see the inevitable bear market come. So that's about it. But yeah, for your coworker, you just say, yeah, probably right. And then of course, you know, in a couple of months when you're quitting because you're a multi-millionaire, like, well, there was a gamble, it worked out for me. Good luck with you. LeBron James gambling at 73K. Yeah, it's pretty much what it is. Robert Key said, I don't like Bitcoin. And a month later, he said he has 70 Bitcoin and he bought it last summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's gonna, everybody's a genius retrospectively when they come out and like, oh yeah. Well, what my favorite thing is, is all the YouTubers who like give you price predictions every other day, every other week. And then the one that hits, they just point to that video like, see, I called it. That's always fun. Yeah, but whatever. It's good for the community. It's entertainment purposes, right? Rob, video for you, please show us how to get doge chain off the exchange on the doge coin network. Good coin doesn't allow an ETH network. I don't even know what that is. I know what doge coin is. But I just use that, I just put that on my tangent wallet. It's very simple. Jim says, I always like the Satoshi quote. If you don't believe me, don't get it. I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. That is a really great quote actually. That's really on the money. Really good one. Yeah, he's got a great point. The coworker you're debating with, Yolos has pensioned into a dog with hat at the top. Then it comes back later, broke saying, I told you it's gambling. This is true. This is true. That's why like that four year comment really has to be drilled in and not four year for dog with hat. When you say like, when you are very specific and say, look, when I talk about four years, I'm talking about Bitcoin. I don't know about the other stuff. I mean, you can get into all coins and we'll have a great discussion about that. But right now, since you're a noob and I want you to get wrecked, just start to do the safer thing, which would be Bitcoin and wait four years. And that's it. And now if they come back to you and go, what about Pepe? You're like, do you really want to know about that? Cause you're going to lose everything. 99% chance you can lose everything. 1% chance you could actually make some money. You want to talk or not? No? Good. That's it. And I don't have to waste my breath. Facts, Rob. Yeah. All right, Panda Pi is here. So true. Mike is here. Bitcoin taking a breather. Yeah, I gotta say that. John's here. Is there a Pedro coin? There's not, but just give it some time. It'll happen. And Nuno has another point. Everyone asked me for tokens on the way up. Might tell them the bear nobody cares. And that's why like, there's a reason why there's only so many millionaires in the world, billionaires in the world is because they do the hard things. You do the hard things. You've already done the hard things. Nobody wants to buy the bear. Everybody wants to buy like right around and not even today. They're not going to want to buy until we hit 80K or 100K. Oof, wait for 100K. Then everybody's going to be like, oh, you're the genius who bought Bitcoin? So Ali says, greetings, Rob. I know you're using Ben's risk metric to sell. When to sell it is the risk metric taking account the new ETFs. So risk metrics are just pretty much time. So if we take a look at the ETFs and there's a case to be made because of the volatility. And actually, how are we going to talk about that? And I think a lot of people with some of this as well, they say that the volatility is going to decrease because the amount of investors that are coming in are not going to swap their Bitcoin for altcoins and they're not going to move things around so it should stabilize a little bit more as more ETFs come in and more people get into those accounts. Could be true. But just remember, right now, the market cap of Bitcoin, we're like 1.3 trillion, let me see. Let's take a peak. 1.3 trillion dollars, right? Gold is roughly $12 trillion. It's not going to hit gold. And gold is relatively stable but remember gold does have peaks and valleys, right? And it does have sell-offs. And that's just how it is. That's at a 12 trillion dollar market cap. If we go to like two or three, I still think it could be a little more volatile. So to answer your question, as far as like ETFs, no one really knows for sure. I know some people will say, well, it's only going to go up now, Rob, because all the ETFs are here and once we get everybody in, it's going to be this, this, this, this, this, this. Over four years, I can see your point. But as far as like month to month, I don't, I'm not, I'm not with you on that one. Sorry, but I can be wrong. So to answer your question, I will still sell my Bitcoin. I know some people are going to hate me and altcoins I'll still sell my altcoins. That's it, TBA. Well, this is a great video. That was a good video, I guess. If you go into the description, see this one right here? Well, first of all, watch that video too. Don't make the crypto mistakes. This one, when and why, why and when I'm selling 8% of my crypto in 2025? I shouldn't really change that to 2024 or 2025 because it's all about indicators. Five-cycle top, MVRVZ score, time and risk bands, 12 multiples, stuff like that. And we kind of go from there. So I'll probably be like one of those people who were like, oh, I missed the top when Bitcoin was a million dollars. It's okay. What if I sell like around 200,000? I'd be pretty happy. We'll see Jean-Louis feedback on Denkun upgrade. Looks like it dropped a lot of the Layer 2 solution costs, which is good. I don't think it decreased the cost of the ZK rollups, which would be like a polygon. But it looks like it's doing its job. Ethereum Layer 1 are still super high in those fees. So they need to really work on that, let's be honest. But I mean, that's great. It's happening. I don't know if that's the winner, as far as like the big winner. That's why I diversify. So like Layer 1s, Layer 0s, Bitcoin Cosmos, Avalanche, Cardano, Solana, ICP, stuff like that. And Ethereum and some Layer 2s. So it looks like it's doing it. It's just, I wonder if we can get to that next step. And that's it. We talked to one of the larger Web3 games this morning. They're gonna do a new push on a new upgrade for the game. It just looks really cool. You'll like it. And they talked about staking and rev shares. And then they were talking about taking their token, which is on Ethereum, it was an ERC-20 token. They're like, look, we can't keep it on Ethereum. This is not working, you know, as far as like fees. We're gonna have to go to a Layer 2. And they actually picked a meetable X and we talked about why that was. And I said, well, once you leave on Ethereum, aren't they gonna do something with the fees like, even if they do, it's not gonna happen this cycle. So we gotta get off to Layer 2s. I think a lot of people will start to do that. And you won't have so much of that massive fees for Layer 1. But Daniel says, when you sell, who are you running over? Let me make this crystal clear. I know people always ask this, you know, like about selling. Where was everybody when we were propping up all of these altcoins? When we were buying in the bear market, when we were injecting liquidity into the market, when we would see our portfolio massively decrease, where was everybody else? It was up to us and we did our job. So as time goes on and people start to say, oh, well, why are you dumping on people? Yes, yeah, I'm dumping on everybody. And we said this many times. I'm like, I'll dump, I'll dump on Daniel. I'll dump on you. I'll dump on everybody in this comment section. I know this isn't a very popular thing to say and, you know, YouTubers won't say it, I will. I'll dump on every single person here. And the reason is, is because I did my job in the bear market. Now it's the tourists that are coming in, they're gonna get the price that they deserve. And when I sell those bags and they pick them up, that's on you. Ah, again, I did my job. So as far as like running anybody over, I'm not putting a gun in anybody's head. If they wanna buy, that's fine. They'll learn their lesson just like we all did. Who here didn't learn the lesson in the bear market and in the last bull market to really all the money's made in the bear market? That's it. Pice like on the monthly 24 hour. I'm using the missing Robin. Yeah, because as everybody knows, when I sell my crypto, I'm gonna step away from the channel and that's it. Nobody needs a pep talk in the bull run, especially in the blow off top bull run. Does anybody need a prep talk? I don't think so. I think everybody needs a pep talk in the bear market and that's when I'd like to come back because there's no reason for me. There's no purpose for me to stick around and go, you know, good job, making that 10X. I think people need to hear like, hey, this is when you make all the funds. Seth says, I won't hate you, Rob. Smart to sell some. Wish I had sold some Bitcoin last cycle, sold Mountain December, but I wish I had sold at least 20% of my Bitcoin. And you know, there's something to be said for the people that just never sell. Like Aaron Bennett put out a great video. And I should talk about this more is that he talks about only taking profits in altcoins and it's letting everything ride in Bitcoin. Look at Michael Saylor, look at El Salvador. They weren't trading it. They just like, you know what, I'm just gonna be around forever. So I'm just gonna hold on to it. And they stood heavy and they did just fine. Look how well they're doing right now. Another person that comes to mind is Simon Dixon. He bought in 2011 at dollars, like five bucks, 11 bucks, something like that. He's doing just fine. So again, I think is how long you wanna actually hold it. But for me, I always think, well, there's other projects and things I wanna do and other assets, but just as a reminder, you know, people say, why would you put it into dollars because it just melts away with inflation? But that's just it. You'll never get out of assets. Now everybody here is you're already, you are an investor, congratulations, which means that you're gonna be finding different assets and moving things around and you might like that or you might just say, I'm just gonna stick it in Bitcoin, that's it. But you'll never get out of the asset game, that's for sure. Dude, what coins don't you have? It's a little too much. That's a good point. Rock's got a good point. I do have too many. Yeah, at Fox. Idea for the video, top indicator check or last year you're gonna see where we're at and poll who will be running your channel and your absence. Birdie has my vote. Birdie could do it, yeah. Birdie could run it up. E, Iggy, where do you put your profits? Ben had a good point on yesterday's NFA show. He talked about, you know, if you're gonna take your profits in your altcoins, you can just put them all the way into Bitcoin and just ride that up as it starts to, you know, depreciate. And we even talked about the ETFs as a matter of fact, to piggyback on the last one. So you can do that and you can take the altcoin profits put into Bitcoin. You can take profits from altcoin and Bitcoin and put it into stable coins. Just don't pick the wrong stable coin. Tether, UST went to zero or you could just put it into straight cash. Just depends. So for me, I'm gonna try to, like we always talk about diversify, try to put those and spread those things around. Yeah. Yes, Mr. Fox dumping everybody without prejudice. Exactly, it's nothing against anybody. Armando's in crypto. And Rob, when will you be starting to sell your meld? Meld, a special case. I've got most of it tied up as a stake pool operator for meld, which is like, if you don't know meld, go to Dan D. Jen, did a video on it about a year ago. It was essentially like a DeFi bank and they've done reasonably okay, but they've got a long way to go and it's kind of stagnant right now. They'll probably hopefully pick up, but most of my meld is in the, as a stake pool operator. Rob, do you have render or Solana on tangent? Yes, Solana is tangent right there. It won't send out a mine, are you able to make a transaction? This same thing, there was a same question about meme coins from Solana and people not be able to send out their meme coins like dog with hat and bonk on tangent. And then I tried to do that on phantom and everybody verified this, but I tried to do it on a phantom and it just got stuck in phantom. I'm not for sure why. So, tangent, I don't have any of those on there. I just have them in my hot wallet. But I don't know if that's a Solana issue, if that's a wallet issue, because on phantom I had the same issue, not for sure. Hmm, if you got dumped on, you deserve it. Yeah, you know. But here's the thing, like, what if I'm up 10x and I dump and then something like, thanks, sucker, they pick up my token, just like what we just saw, like the story. And then it goes up to another 10x. And they're like, well, see, it was a genius now. A says, sure, let me know when you'll dump with me. I will. I'll do that video and we'll do it live and that's it. Yeah, Shalon says, dump your Bitcoin bags and meme my grandkids will thank you. Would you sell your apartment building in New York? Michael said, that's a good point. That's a good point. And lastly, I will say this, because we've been here almost an hour, is we bought a condo here as a rental property in Puerto Rico in 2020 for like $240,000, right? If I were to put $240,000 into Bitcoin and I think it was July of 2020 and just let it sit there, you know what we'd have? We'd have almost $2 million today. So it's just one of those things. But looking back, you know, who would have, you never know, that's why you kind of had your bets for risk. Very low risk for a rental property or a condo on the beach in Puerto Rico. Very easy to rent out, did well. Not as well as a Bitcoin, but you know, I could have also put in Pepecoin and made up to $30 million. Just depends on the risk. That's it for today. So look, that's it for today for the show. Guys, so much for hanging with me for almost an hour. I appreciate it. If you liked this video, if you could just hit the like and the subscribe on the way out, that'd be great. Also don't forget, if you're looking for the risky stuff, it's over on Dan D. Jen. And again, you're either gonna, the 99% chance you're gonna lose everything, probably. Or maybe you make some money. One of those two things will happen, but usually it's very risky if I lose everything. But that's it for today. All right, everybody, thanks so much. I appreciate you and I'll see you on the next one. Have a great day.