 It's natural, there have been a lot of mystics and saints over the centuries that as you go through this purification process and consciousness then you realize that what were considered basic, natural, Mormon human appetites are really ego appetites because the ego is the belief in lack and that's what an appetite is and so people will do everything, use relationships or use food or cigarettes or drugs or whatever to fill an empty hole it's like a bottomless pit that the appetites just go on and on and on and I think of Jesus, I remember him talking to the woman at the well in the Bible and said, drink of me and you will never thirst again and that comes to mind frequently as we have the mona from heaven as you fulfill your function and your purpose and your mind becomes unified and everything lines up in integrity then that lack that used to be there or used to be perceived or felt it disappears because wholeness takes the place of lack and therefore how things play out in terms of form can seem abnormal from the human perspective but actually very natural in terms of the spiritual awakening so those are the kind of things that we look at and also I think just generally you were asking about the group and the community we really don't focus on the body positively or negatively so I would say our community is not really that fashion conscious neither are we trying to live as aesthetics so okay let's get the G-strings for everybody and we aren't going that direction, neither are we going into fashion it's more of a lack of interest in the body and there's Course in Miracles teachings like my body is a wholly neutral thing that's true to the Holy Spirit and the more you listen to the Holy Spirit and align with the Holy Spirit the idea is of a beautiful body or an ugly body or a fit body or an unfit body or even if you go deeper into it the idea of a healthy body or an unhealthy body they just start to lose their weight in the mind because you're getting into these definitions of all illnesses mental illness and all health is in a piece and you give yourself so fully over to those Christ definitions that all of a sudden you put less and less and less emphasis on the body you're not worried about it, you're not concerned about it it doesn't matter whether it's, people say that it's sick or so forth or even unto death you know why we say in the world the worst form of sickness is death how sick is he dead? that's like extreme sickness we talk about bungee jumping and extreme sports that's extreme sickness how sick are we talking? Dead but in Jesus' case with Lazarus dead dead for three days oh that's really dead that's not close Lazarus' body smells and he's in his grave close okay that's sick, that's really sick but then it didn't matter there was no order of difficulty Lazarus come forth okay no order of difficulty and miracles there and I think that's the general direction where we're going with this is it's just the lack of attention lack of focus on the body if you're doing the mind training you realize it's all about your thoughts and that really the body and the world are a reflection of thoughts so you're working with the Holy Spirit and Jesus on thoughts and beliefs and clearing your mind and getting in alignment with spirit and that's where your focus goes more and more and more