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I've been trying to tell you guys I know dude, and I really never used it as part of my routine until I met you and then more recently I've used it more regularly and it's underrated because I always thought of it as like an athletic tool And I always known the value of it for performance I mean Joe DeFranco's talked about this for years how it improves sprint speed and athletic performance And you you know, I'm not a big, you know, I'm not the sports guy likes to develop muscle and be strong So I never really thought of it in terms of building muscle and and that kind of stuff man. It's great for that Oh, yeah, it's really good for that build muscle. Yeah, you know what the other thing is good, too Is when it comes to aches and pains Not only is it like feel like one of the safest things for my joints. It actually makes my aches and pains go away Yeah, that's what I noticed too, and I had clients that had a hard time squatting We're kind of working through the rehab of that like I could always take them over to the sled and have them drive it for Just that concentric contract. Yes, you know that continual contraction of them just moving and it's such a functional movement That you're gonna replicate in daily life. So it's like one of those things It's just like has so many benefits and translates to so many things. Yeah Well, is that because it's so heavily focused on the concentric portion. There's no eccentric portion And is it does my eccentric portion of like the squat and things that really stress our joints more than anything else I think it's that I also think that it's such a natural movement for people to walk or drive forward So it requires maybe less skill like okay. This is true When I would have my kids work out it would it would take a lot more coaching and training to teach them to do Like a lunge then it would be just to push the sled. That's a good point You know I mean because it follows like the crawling patterns. Yes, right You learn how to crawl really really early your calves are involved everything So the other day it was like two weeks ago I came in and you guys know when I have When my older kids are with me, I don't have a lot of time to work out come in sometimes I have a very short period well what this particular morning I came in and I had to start at 830 So I literally had 15 minutes to work out my legs I loaded the sled Doug saw me and I drove the shit out of it for like eight minutes That's all I had to do the next workout. I was stronger like an eight minute sled workout And I got stronger the next day and then I noticed it helps I've been working a lot on left to right balance and symmetry and I feel like it's helped balance out my strength on both sides Because of I guess the way you're split Yeah, you're so you're driving one leg and then you're split and you're you're driving the other like so you're alternating as you're Going and you're getting that like constant muscle tension the entire time which is you know something that has its own value You know a bodybuilder is talking about this all the time in terms of like muscle tension and you know What kind of hypertrophy you know benefits we get from that and it does all I think it's a bodybuilding I think it's a great bodybuilding tool. I really do. I've been it should be in every bodybuilding gym That's the thing. I was actually I got excited when I started to see Some of these like grass strips and like some turf like being you know included into gyms I think there needs to be more of that still like I don't think is enough Well, according to our friend Eugene Tao is a complete waste of time for you to work on that What? Oh He posted By the way, I'm fucking on to you guy. I know what you're doing. He's listening right now and he's writing notes Okay, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, because I know he listens to the show I don't know how often he listens to the show, but he definitely picks up stuff or That or people are sharing specific things that we talk about that he talks differently And he's a smart guy. So any time yeah anytime he does a post Uh, I don't disagree, you know and people tag me all the time because I think they think that I disagree with what he's saying But I I don't like what he presents, right? So he's presenting right now the latest post that he did that's kind of Seems counter to what we talk about is addressing imbalances in the body. Oh, right And the case that he makes which is correct is that we uh, we do not live in a symmetrical world I mean if you're right-handed you right with your right you eat with your right if you're left-handed You wipe your yeah, you play the guitar one direction you wipe your ass And so he did this little funny your liver's on one side of your body. Yes. Yes So he did this little post and he was basically kind of mocking that of this like, you know Trying to be perfectly balanced and symmetrical and will never be Perfectly balanced and symmetrical which is true. Yeah, which is true. All that is true Now the problem I have with this statement, okay and and presenting this information Is it gives and you should see the comments? Yeah, you're amazing. So smart. You're right. You're right. You're right And like applauding him and just like so and literally I and there's and I click on some people because I'm just curious What are these people look like or what are they doing? So with that, you know There's a good amount of them or bodybuilder fit people probably not a big deal them But then there's some of them that are like average people that was like, oh my god I'm so glad I heard this because I was wasting my time Trying to balance out my physique or work on these imbalances And I just what I don't like about that is that that's incredibly common that you see This, you know, it's very common that I would get a client who just on the left side They have this excessive pronation in their feet that runs up the kinetic chain causes knee and hip issues So the message is you don't even need to address it right and and that's a waste of time And I know he doesn't believe that I know he he he would never I know Eugene's a very good coach If he saw somebody squatting They had excessive pronation on one side or the other he would not address that he wouldn't just keep moving through that He's smart enough coach to give that But when you put out a message like that that everybody, you know, there's you know Waste of time trying to become symmetrical because we don't we don't live in a Symmetrical world and everybody has imbalances. You'll never be able to perfect them that that message I can't stand that. Yes. Okay. So it's the so here's the key here You'll never achieve perfect Symmetry just like you'll never achieve the perfect le ascetic physique It's the pursuit of symmetry where you get all the value So if you notice that one shoulder doesn't operate like the other shoulder when you're doing a bilateral exercise When you notice one side hikes up when you notice that one elbow flares out or one muscle One side of your body is more developed or stronger than the other Pursuing balance you're gonna get tremendous Benefit from that. Now if you obsess over perfection. Yeah, of course, you're screwed That's always going to screw you if you obsess over everything being absolutely perfect. Yeah, but even if we back up like Symmetry is such an important thing for health and performance That they've identified that as one of the consistent metrics that people inherently use maybe Unconsciously but they use to judge beauty and aesthetics When you look at when they're trying to find what makes a face attractive One of the number one things is symmetric is symmetry and they've identified that even though there's different cultural norms And all that stuff Symmetry tells us a lot about health. So is symmetry of movement, right? So if somebody's walking and one leg is a quarter inch higher than the other Even if you don't necessarily notice it consciously, you will subconsciously notice that something's not 100% right. So it's the pursuit that makes The big difference and it look bodybuilding is was based on this and I know bodybuilding is extreme now But part of the things about bodybuilding is taking what we know to be aesthetic from nature Of course, they exaggerate it But one of the things is symmetry right to left and then balance right top to bottom Like we know what it looks like when a guy has a very developed upper body Skinny legs. I get I get the motivation that comes from that from Eugene Lane has also been known to come out and talk about this Who else do I know that addresses this likes to come out with this this point of view? And I know what they're doing because there's also there's also a A community of trainers that they use that as like a scare tactic always it's all about You know perfect movement and everybody's been they assess you and oh my god, you're fucked up This is all messed up And if you don't hire me you're gonna die and I'm gonna fix you and so there's a community too That's like around like just too much. Yeah too much, right? So I so I know that's kind of their their their message or their mission is to kind of like counter that Like and I appreciate lane and Eugene for doing that But I you know, I just think you know our experience is with general population for two decades And we've had quite a bit of people that we've seen in those two decades And and I can I can have a very clear idea of You know what I dealt with on the majority and I think we all saw similar things and that is Most people Are fucked up and have a lot of imbalances some that I can't fix some that I'll never be able to fix But some that I can't address and some that I can Dramatically improve their life and their movement patterns by making them aware of something that they have Exaggerated over years and years of not addressing And that's only going to enhance and make their daily life and their performance in the gym better Yeah, and I I feel like you know that other message comes a lot from People within like the professional sports realm and like maybe even the coaches around that community because you are dealing with The biggest examples of imbalance like you've ever seen and they've compensated their entire life and perfected that the way that they operate in terms of like being able to pull off these incredibly complex movements, but As far as that goes like the longevity in their career and all these other things you got to consider Like how do we now? You know sort of work within those confines and pull them back Even just a fractional percentage closer to balance so that way it extends their career bro You're like the point you're making is so massive. First of all athletes, especially at the high level should never be used as an example Of improvement in quality of life in terms of physical Or anything to be honest. I'll tell you what I trained. I'll never forget this This is like five six years in my career. I trained A senior who was a pitcher for high school who could throw some serious heat He just had to work on how good he was with with his with his aim And I mean you could visibly because he pitched for most of his life as a kid You could visibly see the asymmetry in his body because he always threw obviously with his right hand Now the body molds itself around what you do You know, there are little literal remains of skeletons for medieval times and they know that they were long bowmen Long bowmen in medieval times. They were a crazy Military, you know position the especially england dominated the world because they had these Massive bows that required on a hundred and something pounds of of pulling power And they found these remains of these twisted spines And really really thick right humorous, you know arms, you know bones and all that stuff because these people train Free so your body will mold itself To what you do like if you hold your baby on one side I used to get this with female clients right where I'd have a female client She just you know, she's three your babies three years old now Ready to start working out and can't figure out why their si joint hurts and certain things Which side do you carry your baby? Oh, I'm always on you know on the on the right side or whatever Well, your ql is shortened on that side everything stronger or tighter in that particular position Balancing that out made a tremendous improvement in their quality of life. So this is an important thing To pursue but yeah, uh is being pursuing perfect or obsessing with perfect a good thing. No, of course not I just think I I get very passionate about this subject along with the the squatting one that we've kind of debated a bit And it's because I can I can totally relate like part of why I didn't address Mobility stuff all through my 20s is because I love this message. Yeah Yeah, this is everybody is why why would I fucking waste my time? Doing some bullshit stretch. I just want to get buff and look good and you know, I'm saying it's like everybody is in balance So that's such a joke and I mean that was me like I totally subscribed to that And actually working on that and working on my mobility and addressing all those imbalances It's been one of the biggest game changers for it for my life personally So when I see that I get fired up because I'm like, I know that you would have got me at 22 Even a 22 year old trainer. Okay. Somewhat education experience and I would have read a post like that from somebody who at that time If I was only 22 would have totally validated Yeah, because I would recognize him as either a peer and authority in my space And either way he articulates his points. He's right and he's smart and I would be like, oh, yeah Well, fuck that. I ain't wearing it out no more I tell you what you want to test this out yourself Just train for a month, you know, laterally 100% try that yourself Watch how you feel at the end of that month when you go back to your bilateral exercise if you're not blown away Uh, then uh, then I don't know what to say. I think everybody would trip out just for four weeks Four weeks of training unilaterally start with your weak side. Let it dictate with a strong test That's it put put put an action plan and you'll you'll trip out now speaking of strong people and stuff I want to give a shout out to the strong women Deadlift kind of crew that we've been I know we're selling shirts now, right and we're donating some of the money Yeah, yeah, this is breast cancer awareness month. So I know every one of those shirts We have two different shirts that I know that choke in she threw them up on the mind pump media thing yesterday So and you can go to mind pump store.com Money's being donated to uh, breast cancer awareness. So we did that this year But that I mean it's so great watching these videos Oh, it's been a fun campaign to watch all these women getting strong And I love the the wide variety of women that are sending in videos There's beginners that are sending it in there's Very you could tell very advanced that that was one woman that pulled some weight that I was like 300 something This is making me feel a little insecure. There was a pregnant woman that was deadlifting that was sending stuff in And what a great message. Yeah, and it's so like positive and it's about performance not looks, you know Super cool. I'm excited about that side of the business We're trying to chokey and I have been spending some time on that like to really try and Make that as a subcategory of what we're doing And this was the beginning was to give back first right to do this whole strong one deadlift to do the challenge Every single month give away just for the hell of it just to create some good Energy around it And then I think we're going to start to carve off like a separate like Parallel line and business around that and it's it's going good. It's going good. I like what I see right It's a great message That was the idea, you know, and I just think that It's a good time for it right now with with lifting heavy and deadlifting and talking about that with with both men and women But women in particular, I think it's just becoming really popular For women to do movements like that really heavy. Well, I mean, I have a daughter, okay, and I know how media Advertises to women. I know what women consume And purchase and a lot of that message is centered around beauty and pretty and sexy And I want I would love for my daughter to see strong Be strong be, you know lift things that are heavy and feel Physically strong just kind of balance it out a little bit like I you know, of course that could get obsessive too But um, what a great message I absolutely love and in the proof in the pudding is the all the variety of women that are posting In sending us videos. It's so cool speaking of messaging Uh, did you see donald trump's got his starting his new social media platform? We call it or what? Well, yeah, we kind of knew this was going to happen. We called it Was he calling it truth? I was like, okay, I know right Everything else is fake. Yeah, so now did you know I don't know if he maybe dug could look this up for us I didn't get a chance to do this. I read the article and I'm oh, I need to look at that Uh, it's two companies that he's merging the other and both are already on nasdaq So they're already they're already trading So it's so there's no way. Yeah. Yeah, there's opportunity to buy stock in the in the companies So he's merging two companies that are coming forming an entity together So it was one a media company and one's like focused on tech tech. I believe so. Okay. Yeah, I believe so So maybe I can find the article it lists the two companies and I do know that they are publicly traded And it'd be really interesting to see where the ticker is at right now Uh, and if it hasn't already how long before it gets shut down Well, dude, I tell you what I don't put a ticker on I don't care where you stand with whether you like the guy or not I really don't care. I do find it extremely strange Very interesting and a bit conspiratorial Just for lack of a better term that the taliban has an incredible twitter presence Yeah, and donald trump has been banned for life on twitter. These are people that throw gay people off of group tops His his ban is for life. I didn't know that he ain't never going back. Oh, it's a life. That's what they said Wow, he got kicked off all social media. This is a yeah I knew that but I thought maybe it was until they have they have they have crazy people on there On on these social media platforms that normally and their lives do some terrible shit and they're still on them So it's pretty crazy. Yeah, what does that say there? Is that his? Yeah, trump media and technology group. Okay, so that's the truth social and then he has the I think the technology group Which I don't know exactly what that Yes, right there. It's a world world where it is right there on nasdaq corporation So trump media and technology group digital dw ac Oh digital world. Uh, what is that acquisition corp? Yes Interesting now look at that. What else do they own take it? We'll check. Let's take a look. Let's see what the ticker's at right now I'm just curious Boy, this is gonna be you know what though Predictable because it's a market for media. It's predictable that the media is gonna tailor specifically to this audience Of course, I mean we said this I mean it's it literally is it's we're all we're seeing right now Is the birth of cnn and fox news on television? We're just seeing it the new the new medium like right? I mean to me It's crazy that we still people still watch tv all tv reports on now is twitter and other social media platforms Which is so funny to me. It's like oh look who tweeted this at whatever time, you know Oh, well, it's it looks like it's been up for the last uh year or so, uh, but it's at $29 They give me a 30 day rundown of today. It's up 19 point Yeah, so give me a now how many new like laws and Sort of Restrictions you think are gonna come out or win this launch is I don't know dude I see I really I really think that they're gonna allow it to happen and it just become Fox and cnn we're gonna have you're gonna have instagram and then you're gonna have trump truth Social or whatever. You know how aggressive they're censoring. I just I just picture it like all on assault of Hackers like basically trying to uh, oh you think that Well, have you guys have you that's how aggressive it is out there? Are you guys familiar with I think it's operation mockingbird? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe dug you can look that up. Yeah, the where the cia basically took over like all of hollywood's like productions like tv shows like they had control over the well that wasn't a conspiracy that was proven No, it was proven It was proven it was an operation where they would put in implants into media To influence the public because media is so powerful bro. You saw that. Oh, but they but they left Yeah Okay, we're out. Oh, yeah, we just controlled a bunch of you guys caught us. We're out of here like operation like operation Yeah, we researched UFOs. We found nothing. Anyway, dude You do see the uh, the joe rogan's going hard right now, huh? What's up? Uh, we have a little side bed on the outside of a mine pump on here of what if he's gonna get cancelled or not Right, you feel like he's going to huh? Well, he's under the wall spotify. I feel like he's been emboldened by that That's how you're starting to kind of hear his true opinions coming out. Yeah. I like you know, I appreciate rogan He seems pretty fearless with his opinions, which is pretty good. Well, I saw they're attacking him He saw the fight the fizer what he did right helped watch sponsored by fizer anderson cooper 360 Brought to you by fizer abc news nightline brought to you by fizer Brought to you by fizer brought to you by fizer brought to you by fizer brought to you by fizer I haven't even watched see it's a thing I like I like to go sometimes and just watch like mainstream tv just to kind of see what kind of like just Information people are disorbing. So I know what to think when I'm talking to somebody, you know Uh, so yeah to see all those ads for fizer. I was like, why do they even need ads? They got the market cornered Who's like maderna doesn't even have any advertisement anymore Look at this some facts on operation mockingbird So operation mockingbird indicates the cia's involvement in the manipulation of the news published In the united states and across the world Today one can identify such manipulation with fake news operation mockingbird commonly refers to the cia's involvement in journalism During the 1970s the cia bribed students as well as established journalists and reporters to write A cia version of the events Oh, yeah, and then at the last as it says the cia admitted their manipulation of mainstream media in order to change the american people's mind Wow, wow, I mean look Yeah, I'll tell you what between that and agent provocateurs and and all that I tell you what okay This is now there's no conspiracy here. Okay What the trigger that got us into vietnam? Look up the gulf of tonkin admitted that that was bullshit Weapons of mass destruction in iraq. Mm-hmm never found any Uh, there's a you know, those are just two like you need an enemy in order to like move your Agenda forward. Yeah, and and now this this whistleblower quote and quote whistleblower for social media that came out this woman She's pushing for stronger federal oversight of all social media which I smelled right away. I was like wait a minute. Yeah Why is this whistleblower in front of congress and getting all this media? Well, what if that too is it's a justin's point that you know, she knows trump is coming down the pipe with something like that And it's really to set that up to get get the legal ability to go in there and do that I didn't even think about that. So maybe you are right, bro. Maybe yeah, maybe they are gonna Well, I just it's like he's so dangerous You know like according to media. So it's a course like they're gonna come come at him with like everything they got Otherwise, it's gonna be a real problem Yeah, because he's gonna like try and undermine everything else on the news Yeah, I tell you what the shit stresses me out. You know, you know, I'll tell you what though speaking of stress You like that transition? Yeah, I do I like appreciate it. What did you guys think? Because I think Ned hit it out of the park. Oh the new cinnamon one. Yeah, what's the name of that? Does it de stress or de stress? Okay. What'd you guys think about that? I loved it, but I only got the little sample So I only got what is it had three samples in it or whatever. So I already took it. I liked it So cbg and cbd. So cbg is the what they call a parent cannabinoid and it's got really it's got documented Relaxing effects not sleepy effects But calming effects. Yeah, and then in there they've included other things like ashwagandha Which is well documented, of course to help with stress So I've tested this out So I had four bottles and I've tested it out each time and then I wait about 45 minutes to see if I notice anything They have crushed it. They've completely knocked it out. Are you combining it with anything? By itself by itself and I notice a like I all of a sudden become It's not sleepy. It's different than their sleep their sleep blend will knock me out like that's going to make me I can't Yeah, because I was going to say like because it does Calm me down like especially with like mellow or like even the regular cpu oil But to have it not actually promote like a sleepy No, there's sleep formula like if I take that I'm not going to drive after because I'll get like I'll I'll make me groggy This right here. It's like I had this like zen. That's it. It was a zen feeling and I tried it four times I gave some to Jessica same thing. She knows the same thing. Do you know how much ashwagandha is actually in it? I don't I don't do what I mean I think you've talked about this before because I know we have a couple products that have ashwagandha But I also feel like that's become like the one of the most popular things that people just throw in everything And is it a dose that you actually would feel and how much sal do I need to take in order for it to like really have it The main component of what's causing you to feel what you're feeling from it is the cbg ratio to cbd the ashwagandha is in there in a Efficacious dose, but it's as a support. So it's not the main player Ashwagandha definitely has got great stress relief Aspects, but it's not acute. So when I take ashwagandha I don't necessarily notice something right away But if I take it over time, I notice it the cbg that's in there I do notice it like I said 45 minutes later and I'm like And I'm like I feel like I just meditated. I took it before podcasting. So that's how I've used it So every time I've done it I've done it right before we did a show and it's I definitely Gives you like you said that kind of chill. I don't feel sleepy from it. Yes Yeah, yeah, so and I'm excited to have my my because my parents are like totally sold on on the Normal head. Excuse me hemp oil product that they have so I'm excited to have my especially my dad try it out Yeah, yeah No, you know, we were we were talking about social media platforms You guys know which what social media platforms have the most in-app purchases that are not video games because video games trump ever All of them But what social media platforms Generate the most revenue in app like so in other ways when you're using that platform buying buying stuff Oh, that's a good question. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think the top three are? I have not video games off. Yeah, one of them. I had no idea tick tock. No tender is number one. Wait, what you buying in tender? Yeah Yeah Upgrade the I don't know. I don't know. I'll take the hand job I had no like that one was like totally left field for me netflix Which also I thought okay, what I've never bought anything while using that that's why I'm like confused Maybe because there's ads that hit you if you're watching from your phone, then you jump from there So that's included in that. Okay, and then youtube is third youtube You too make sense YouTube makes sense to me right because all the ads and everything on that and they're three billion But that what surprised me were the two above them So I was reading an article on netflix about it or me excuse me on youtube And they had just surpassed the three billion dollar mark of in-app purchases And it's and it was they said they're the third place and all social media platforms besides video games And I thought well, what's one and what's above youtube and tender and netflix tender What are you buying in tender? That's I mean that really has my wheels. Well, what I think it is Okay, because what I what when I think of the thing what I think it is is this tender and uh Netflix are arguably the only two platforms I could think of that make people may be spending more time on than youtube Okay, right up there with youtube and it's counting anything that gets thrown at you ad wise and you jumping over from that So i'm assuming that if you have a ticket just do you need a subscription for tender andrew? I feel like you should know this better than anybody It's a young guy. He's a young guy tender is like, do you know the do you know how tender works? I don't want to get you in trouble with your wife right now. He's like well my friends told me Oh your profile's still up there, but It's basically like it's free, but you can subscribe to a gold subscription which you pay monthly for And you get more exposure Okay, so they kind of promote your profile a bit more you can also buy coins i'm reading about right now Coins yeah, and the coins. Let me see They the coins will be a way for tender to monetize non-subscribers by allowing them to make ad hawk or one time Purchases and then of course the subscriptions like okay, that's interesting. You're going through like you may also want condoms It's like thanks No, it's just extra features and i'm not quite sure what that means if you get more communication ability I know isn't that interesting and stuff like that. I had no idea Oh, you know, you I just thought of something too that I have to try and admit anytime I'm probably wrong right so I admitted the being wrong about jimshark. Is this the robot thing? No I'm all in on that. I'm all in on that until until a robot's doing one of your guys's dishes People keep sending me this stuff. There's this handheld thing that like washes everything stupid plastic thing I'm getting I get hit all the time now right people love to send me that stuff and I just laugh when I see it Robots are gonna kill people before you know, we did that episode And we had um, what's the guy's name right now? I can't think of the CEO of uh, tonal Oh, yeah, I can't think of his name right now. Okay, but great guy. You see that they signed lebron james Oh, that was a big deal huge. Yeah, you know what though and there's the biggest athlete I mean, of course part of me that irritates it irritates me because I know i'm wrong Because I because obviously they're going to go right because that I mean you get the I name me a company or a business This would be an interesting fact to find Find me a company or business that signed with like the most famous athlete in the world and failed And yeah, and failed right? I mean that whoever signed with michael jordan Did not right but you know what I think of right away It's just like this mother fuckers never used a tonal in his life except for that commercial You like and you all these kids are they want to be basketball kids all jacked ready to go Yeah, get out of here wicked. He does not do that. I know who his trainer isn't that the stuff they do There's no fucking tonal in there jim. That's huge That is the thing I liked about the CEO of tonal was his stance on resistance training He totally understands resistance training its values, which I thought was tremendous He wasn't like the typical like you know, no, I like him. I like his mission I'm and I'm pro tonal by the way, and I know it don't sound like it I don't think it's the answer Um, I don't think it's something that um, I would use I think if you're a a avid gym goer Also, probably not the greatest thing ever But I do think it's going to introduce a lot of people to strength training That may or may not have ever gone down to a gym and signed up at golds or 24 hour fitness But would put this that can afford it right because it's definitely a different demographic We're going after here $4,000 piece of equipment with a what a 30 or $50 a month subscription It ain't cheap, you know You can build a whole entire at-home gym for cheaper than what that thing costs But you know if you're the kind of engineer guy or whatever and you're into techy stuff and you know, it's funny If they can get and this is a tough one But if they can get you know their their image is more tech Than fitness people will spend the three thousand dollars people spend shit like that all time on tech Yeah, it's when you think of something as fitness that you won't like people They bulk at $25 a month for a membership, right? But if you're telling them like it's the latest technology and it's offering all this other stuff Then I could see how they might be able to do that because people will spend money They're going hand though. I can't imagine what maybe you can find the duck. How much did lebron get paid for tonal? I'm carrying someone who's got paid for that. That's gotta be big money You better chill it out. Yeah gotta be huge money to get somebody or or or maybe a percentage Or yeah, exactly even have the money. Yeah I would wonder if they would give them equity. Yeah, does it say done if I was Lebron? I'm not seeing it, but it looks like the company's valued at 1.6 billion now Well, oh wait, is that less wasn't it 2 billion when I made that post? I don't recall. I thought it was 1 billion No, I thought it. Well, let me look I actually wrote it in my post and I know I I thought they took on like 400 million and then they were valued at 2 billion or was that a different company we're talking about Because remember I did the uh, is it you guys think it's overrated underrated got into that big old thing with with our buddy Yeah, I could have swore one. Oh, would you say it's that done 1.6? Oh same same valuation. Oh, so they just kept that same Yeah, so it's holding it's not a public company. So I don't I mean, I don't even know if they have to disclose how much lebron Got paid. All right, right that could be a secret. It says he invests in at-home fitness startup I'll see there you go. He has an ownership interest that makes sense That makes perfect in his best interest to promote it. Yeah, it'd be the face. Absolutely. Yeah Well speaking of uh fitness and influencers and stuff Would you guys hear the interview that I uh ben greenfield did with me? Yeah, yeah You mean uh, you mean how justin and I Together maybe you'll put a coloring book together. Oh my boom roasted. Good one ben So in the four in our private 40 says when I beat him up the next time I see him people in our forum Like that nerd Such a nerd thing to say I feel like if he was about to be beaten up He'd push a button and like a machine would come out of his skin or something weird Someone on our forum was like man, you know, it was great interview But like it was really awkward the way he was like trying to like poke fun and stuff And I was trying to explain to them in the forum because ben we all know ben. He's a good guy He's a great guy. I love ben. Very good guy. Good dad. Nice guy, honestly I know But hug him and then give him a nougi. Here's the thing. Yeah, I know you guys know Remember this in high school, right? There was always that one guy in your group. Yeah, and you know guys razz each other That's what we do, right? We have a good time fucking with each other There's always that one guy that doesn't quite understand the intricacies of talking shit And it goes too far or says something a little bit like, you know, like, oh damn bro. You're so fat Ha ha ha. We all laugh. He was yeah, that's why your mom's an alcoholic and everybody's like, whoa Man, you went too far. Yeah, that's bam. Yeah, he doesn't know how to do it You know what I mean? It's like he was he kept saying about me coming across the out of boat and starting starting my pizza shop Yeah, like come on, dude. That's a little too This is how you get locked in your room and read books Hey, speaking of that, I mean you you've got to wonder like social awareness is such an important attribute, right? And I think that you know what we just went through the last two years or whatever like that I wonder how many kids are gonna be, you know, when you're we're raising a bunch of bins Talking shit online is different than talking shit in real life. Oh, no, you know, it's it's a different It's a whole different ball. I mean that much is gonna put lights in their pee hole and Coffee animals listen when you're when that much of your brain is like tuned in one direction something else has got to give Like he's a high performance Thinking machine. Yeah, so he's not going to know the intricacies of social He's got his thing down Like if I didn't know I'm dumber, dude Like if I didn't know Ben and I met him within five minutes I would know right away be like he's a really smart weird guy They would take me five minutes to figure that out. But yeah, I agree. It was hilarious as he was doing it I'd laugh and you can hear my laughter that I'm like Stop doing that Anyway, so, uh, I think we should uh focus the camera in on your skin right now because uh, it's glowing Look how nice it looks Did you use the mask? No Like okay, so caldera just came out so I have the the the three thing are you using them all I those three I have been for a while now. Okay, but that's the the serum the uh face wash and then the What's the other one called? I always forget the name of the cream of some sort don't act like you don't know I know you fucking I use it. I just already call the name playing dumb right now. It's the moisturizer moisturizer Okay, there you go. And it does work. No, no hunter amazing. And so they actually, um Email Katrina the other day about hey, could I get a video of adam doing the whole thing with the the mask and they said mask What man? I don't have a mask and and I didn't realize they they have now a new product And so I got it, but I haven't used it yet. I just don't know how I feel yet about that It's not a peel off mask. Yeah, it's no not peel off. So you put so there's different kinds of It's gonna have like the whole like white. Yes, but then you rinse it off Yeah, so it's not the one that you like peel off. I mean right that yeah, but still I gotta walk around the house with the Scare your kid. Oh Put that with the cucumber. I mean I'm the guy who paints his toenails. I'm the guy who does like that weird I'm like, I'm the closest out of us who's probably most likely to do that But I'm not ready if I'm sure I'm not sure if I'm ready to cross that. I'm cool with it I mean, I'll do it. No shame in your game, huh? No, not at all. Well, you while you're always working on making the face prettier And you yeah, of course, you know, I can speak to that your skin is really clear right now What do you attribute that to right now? What do you think you've done different? Well, I have diet is a large thing. I mean, I had a skin issue a couple years back Uh, you can even have alcohol Okay, enough with the blood talk There is no blood going down here What about stress do you do you think stress uh up or down? I'm sure stress has something to do with it. I think it was mainly gut issues Yeah, that's right. And then I went on to a kind of a antihistamine diet For a long time. I took a lot of different Ayurvedic supplements. I was gonna say you saw an Ayurvedic Expert, yeah, right. What were the foods that they had you avoid? Well, histamine foods I mean that includes avocado, bananas, spinach, chocolate. Yes, like sardine Uh, you know, there's a lot of foods that have histamines that I had no idea about a lot of things I love I didn't even open it. So go again. Sorry. I interrupted you banana. What else spinach avocado Like any smoked type foods chocolate Wine dark chocolate. Oh, yeah, all the things I was pounding all the time. Oh, wow Like kombucha, right? I basically was drinking like two bottles of that a day chocolate pounder And here's the thing. Yeah, all the things I thought were super healthy for me At some point, they're not healthy for you when you do too much of it So I think I think moderation is always the key. So I had to cut out Basically all the things I loved for about a year a dog. Actually, I did I did mean to ask you since you're already talking You were on the coaching With jason phillips and the trainers yesterday, right? Yes. So how did it go? It goes great? I mean jason's really good at driving the show. Oh, you had jason this time. I had jason. Yeah I figured yeah, he probably made sure he was on because I needed the extra help Oh No, the thing about jason is he's very he's very sharp guy. Yeah, and the way he breaks things down I mean, he knows his stuff. Yeah, and uh, so we had a great conversation Yesterday, we kind of talked about, you know, what is it about mine pump and building a community that we've been so successful Because we have a very strong community. Yeah, and uh, it was an interesting conversation and for people don't know So what we do is once a week one of us is on With jason phillips or one of his partners and they're they're coaching class for trainers and coaches Yeah, so i'll get on or doug will get on or jessen or adam and there's Anywhere between i don't know 50 100 or more people on there And they're coaches and trainers and they're asking us questions directly We're covering a particular topic and here's what I noticed because I know we alternate, right? I noticed that that that the trainers are They seem to be growing each time I get on The questions are changing And people are progressing with their businesses. Have you guys noticed the same thing? Yeah, one of the I mean What I'm really enjoying about it is the feedback, right? So one of the things that off air we talked about Well before we even decided to go into this venture with jason was I mean Obviously if you've listened to the show for a long time you've heard us come out and talk Shit about masterminds and things like that and not because you can't find one that has a value It's just that it's like the new hustle that everybody's doing that And this kind of originally when we first talked about felt like oh Was this going to be something like this and the concern that all of us had was listen like I don't want to do it I don't want no part of it Unless the people that are going through it are just blown away with value that they feel that way and the when pricing it at $100 a month which is not not one person in this room would charge that for them to talk to one of us for an hour Right, so it's under that price and you get all four of us plus jason plus his team Every single week talking on the zoom and you have the floor to Ask whatever you want we do it I end up a lot of times I stay over and answer like if jason's got questions coming in I'll be like I got time keep it going. You know, I'm fine So I'll keep answering if they keep firing questions and it's everything from business to being a great trainer We just want to deliver social media like you name it all all things that you would want to know On how to build a business as a you know what maybe to a fault One thing I noticed about jason is he really Wants to deliver to the point where I remember one time there was a young lady that asked the question And seemed like she kind of was struggling with taking the next step and without going into too much detail He's like I will personally guarantee this and I will personally help you with this if you make this choice Give it 30 days. And I mean the guy manages So many people. Yeah, so I say to a fault because I don't know how much of his time I mean the guy's lives and breathes us. Yeah, but I guess that's what I mean That's what it takes in my opinion if you're gonna do something like that That's what it takes for me to think this is a good thing Yeah, he has a Guarantee that he does that I didn't know this until after we had started We had launched the last time he was here when he told me that like he he does the way and He for sure checked me because I don't remember exactly how he structures But if I remember correctly, it's half upfront For the the year of coaching with him He does not make you pay the other half until he gets your business up to $10,000 a month. Yeah, that is crazy to me I mean that would have like You got me like seven eight years ago if I was doing this on my own and I was like Somebody told me that they guarantee me to do that and I only got to come up with half up front And then the other half is I'm due after I get to that That's I think there's been a lot of examples of that within three months You know a lot of these guys these people that have joined in have been able to accomplish that and it's really a cool thing It's very tangible and he manages it that way Well, one of the most valuable things you could do as a trainer or a coach is have a good mentor 100% I had a good mentor and that I can't even there's no words to explain The value that it brought me the problem is and whenever I tell coaches this are like Where do I find a good coach or mentor? I'm in a gym with a bunch of people that I don't necessarily want to meant, you know mentor me or whatever I get that I was very fortunate, you know, we all started At 24 our fitness during its heyday, which I'm gonna this is true I remember who are you telling this? Oh, you're telling Jordan shallow this the other day. Oh, yeah We were with 24 fitness. I started in the late 90s. Uh, you got you started in the early 2000s But right in that period You are talking about people who turned that company into the industry leader at one point To something that nobody something that had never existed They were the first company to ever reach a billion dollars in a fitness company, right? And this is a true statement now I can literally I can list off my hand top producers who managed clubs back in the early 2000s late 90s today They're all doing different things. Not one of them isn't a millionaire. Yeah from what they learned Working in that business and it's all because we were so lucky to have those incredible mentors that we were surrounded by And so having a mentor is really good So I know I understand the promise of these Like coaching master classes But so many of them are so they're like like fake false promises bullshit They're preying on people. This is why we stayed away from them so long But so far Jason he delivers and he sacrifices a lot of his time and energy to deliver You know what spurred that conversation was uh, we were actually talking about You know when we first met shallow, which is and we were talking about schmarzo And slesinger and him all three of them right there. I know how you know looking back now and what they're all doing Right, you got you got slesinger who is over in with the phoenix suns as their head strength and conditioning coach You got jordan traveling the world creating his own certification and having tremendous training Professional athletes and the nfl and stuff like that doing all kinds of stuff and then same thing with smarzo I know he's working with all kinds of pro athletes and olympic athletes and his like a top-end train facility It's insane. It's crazy to think that they were all under the same roof working. You know that happens often They've done studies on this where there are particular environments that will create like tremendous Success just because of the vibe of course there's a combination of factors that come into play The right people but I can't think but about how we started and where we started and I could list names off Of people who who came out of nothing came in started as sales counselors or friend desk people Got themselves up to fitness manager manager who today are Crush and they will all tell you concentrated pockets of greatness. Yes. Yes. It's really really cool speaking of great companies In controversy. What's going on with bell campo? I heard that there's some Some stuff going on. So, okay. I was reading the article this morning and it sounds like It's still from that original You know a little thing that they had in what may it was may I think it was And we talked about it on the podcast remember we brought it up And what basically what it was was they sell all their meat as their meat And they were sourcing it from somewhere else and part is that it's grass-fed organic also and supposedly Okay, if I'm getting my facts right from what I've read They sourced it from another source and maybe not all those things were true as far as and so That and I know she came out and did it a whole Uh Apology and it seemed like things were going to be fine And I actually haven't heard anything since then and then this article came came out today That says they're shutting down now. Here's What I what I think might be happening That happened in may okay, and it was handled. They you know, I think they fired some people and because it was like they Like I think they were unaware or something like that was going on. They Apollo did a formal apology moved on from that And now they're shutting their restaurant down now for news articles or for getting, you know clickbait I think they might be tying Their little, you know mishap that happened in may to the fact that the restaurants just shutting down And there's a lot of restaurants that are shutting down shutting down right now And so what I'm wondering is maybe they are just getting shut down But as a as a writer professional writer, you know, the controversy they had five months ago It's not a lie to say that they're they they dealt with that and it makes for better like clickbait So that's my speculation on this. I don't know I would agree with that I would agree with that I mean the percentage of restaurants shutting down because of all the shutdowns and covet Yeah through the roof and a high end expensive and all tech is a dirty trick of like journalists to do that It is because it's the way they make money I will say this I will say this though, man. If you're if you hang your hat on a specific point in business That could be your strength, but it could also be your biggest weakness It's like if you're like a diehard vegan And then it's discovered that you took a sip of milk or some shit. You're just you're you're destroyed, right? Yeah, they hung their hat on the quality and pasture raised and You know farmed a table and grass fed and grass finished And then they had a supplier that didn't meet their standards. They said they weren't aware of and they apologize for Yeah, but that because it's like that was their brand very damaging. Yeah, you know very very damn well And then especially when you got you know people riding and jumping on it on top of that too So I don't I'll send her a text right? She's I think she's really she seems at least the all the encounters that I've had with It's Anna right Anna Anna Anna something like that In every encounter I've had with her. She seems genuine and authentic and straightforward They have a great reputation with our friends. Yeah, and I and I really liked her You know I and you know we but we have a better relationship with butcher box I mean that's literally one of my favorite partners and brands that we work with they've been and this is not a commercial for butcher box It's just we were offered a lot of money from bell campo to jump ship and you know said no because our loyalty towards butcher box and I and so in her defense and what she's probably going through right now It seems a little fishy to me like this is just what makes good News to try and pile on I will say this too if you're a meat company today And you find there's a they find a chink in your all in your armor. They're gonna jump all over you Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I was I was totally gonna try and shoehorn this in with the caldera commercial It didn't totally failed miserably But I was thinking about caldera because the definition of caldera, which is basically like a crater a Volcano so when a volcano like turns into you know a fertile crater I'm wondering if that has anything to do with how they've like, you know created the name I'm trying to tie this into the garden of eden's story that I thought this is like this is my chance This is my chance to bring this up. Are you talking to me already? So better keep going. This is good because he talked to me about this outside. I have no idea what you're talking about Okay, there's a conspiracy. Well, not really conspiracy. It's a theory, right? Okay, so I've told you guys. Yeah, I put it on Long like I've told you guys about like I've always think back about even science brought this up about Pangea and like how you know the creation of the world like where we were in terms of like plate tectonics Yeah, all that and like we're closer So I've never heard this theory before like I've heard of like, you know if the garden of eden was a real place Right, like some people have attributed it to like being somewhere in iraq and like mesopotamia and like sort of like It goes into I don't know the red sea like where you have the tigress and ephrates and you know the nile and all that kind of stuff It's all right there It's so this guy. I think his name is dan ayo But he has this sort of biblical Philosophy this sort of theory that he has that he's promoted that He's actually attributed to this place in tanzania Which which is really interesting because like there's all these like little Little facts that he's he's sort of like placed together in dots that he's put together with this in terms of like a global catastrophe of a meteor that came that basically like Was so impactful that it it it exploded and pushed the continents like away So you see where the himalayas are like like like india actually pushed like dramatically into You know that continent, uh, which then, uh, raised raised those mountains up to where they are today, right? It's huge So he's saying he knows where eden was based off of certain features and certain gea. Yeah, geological like characteristics So there's an apple tree Yeah, well, there's there's like yeah in hebrew like in in back Like you can you can sort of go back and kind of trace a lot of these like facts in terms of like Like the different tribes and like there's more descriptions in other books too describing eden and so like Anyway, the the interesting part is that like there's still tribes today Uh, you know that talk about this being the birthplace of humanity Interesting and so we and we've also heard science say that we you know in terms of like our our genetic blueprint Like we've they trace it back to africa and so in in tanzania, it's like There's I guess there was this like big huge volcano at one point in like this this certain area that's enclosed Uh, and it describes that like eden was basically enclosed and had all these animals and all this stuff there and then the um, it was high enough to where the rivers actually started there and then Um, uh went outwards and so it's like we didn't have all these like huge oceans at that point Yeah, it was lots of rivers and so the world looked totally different. It was actually a bit smaller And and it rotated faster. There you go. Look at that. The this one's saying Botswana. Hmm, but Botswana, huh? Yeah, he's wrong or that one Tanzania. Hey, hey, it's one of those speaking of cool science Uh, maybe this will help you this is animal like this because I know you're a bigger straw astrology guy I know that's a big scorpio. You want to hear something weird? Yeah So the utah health department did some numbers and this is very strange Percent of people under certain zodiac signs that are vaccinated. There's a huge discrepancy between So let's play. Let's play this. Okay. So which don't tell don't tell us Which signs do you think are the most vaccinated and which which signs do you think are the least? Definitely Virgo least are I'm gonna say lia lia and and scorpion. Oh, scorpio. You bro. You literally picked Leo, which is the most vaccinated and scorpio, which is the least So you actually picked the two the two that you oppose Bro 70 of lios vaccinated 46 of scorpio is vaccinated. What a huge difference now. What are what the other signs? Are they all kind of close Aquarius the second in terms of vaccinate vaccination? And then it goes airy, Sagittarius cancer, torus, gemini, libra, pisces, capricorn, Virgo So I literally picked the two ends of the spectrum. Yeah, so you know, it's weird Okay, Virgo Aquarius Aries Sagittarius and cancer all above 55 percent and then the lowest ones are Virgo and Scorpio 50 and 46 But if you take the top and the bottom that's a big ass discrepancy Isn't that weird? There must be something to do with the planets There's something in the stars lining and where do you guys fall in there? Well, you I'm an Aquarius You guys are both Aquarius right here. You're both Aquarius. You're a cancer You know, it's a best match for Scorpio, right? Oh, is it that's why we work so well Why yell at you the least okay? God thank god And knock on the door what the fuck I wish you would agree with me more than Jesus come on Hey, listen, I am not going to throw you under the bus, but you had the worst idea of all time We will never say what it was. It was so bad But I tell you what if we ever if this company ever sells for a billion dollars, I'll release it That should be what people speculate like I want to hear people's nobody would ever yeah What do you think was Adams idea? It was Adams idea Hey real quick before we get to the rest of the show look I know this is a fitness and health podcast But part of being healthy is enjoying your life It's quality of life and sometimes alcohol is a part of it. Look alcohol has been around for thousands of years I enjoy the occasional glass of wine or glass of jack daniels on the rocks Actually, that's my partner Justin. 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Well, I get I mean, it's just say the top three Factors, I guess For building muscle the number one in this one is just easy for me is to come up with this just get strong I think at some point Just lifting more weight isn't necessarily important especially when you come advanced because there's a limit and then become You know, you also start to get these kind of risk versus reward Ratio that starts to tilt more towards risk But early on when I I was lucky as a kid that I got had very brief mentoring from Some strength athletes and they literally told me If you get strong the muscle will follow if you can squat, you know twice your body weight You're gonna have muscular legs if you could bench your body weight You'll see a difference in your shoulders arms In chest so number one like when it comes to building muscle because muscle does It contracts and if it's stronger The odds that you're building muscle are quite high. So that's to be the first I read this question and I was thinking well along those lines of strength But I was thinking about building a stable structure, right? So having having the foundation of You know, you being in good alignment having You know getting closer to good posture and having Your body just in a position where you know, we could add this kind of stress to then work from there and like build on so To be able to you know, focus on that specifically first. So now we can really ramp up The amount of intensity and load and demand And change the environment Around, you know, what our body needs to work on it's that's what then we can build and kind of go forward and build muscle I would have to say progress understanding progressive overload and specifically The ability to scale volume over time I think very few people volume is closely connected to muscle too. Yeah, absolutely So I think that very few people Actually track the amount of volume that they consistently and I think just Naturally, we all kind of fall or gravitate towards homeostasis and this kind of natural amount of volume that you always train So maybe you have some good weeks and you dip down a little bit some good weeks again You dip down a little bit over the course of three to six months You're pretty much kind of right hitting the same amount of volume And if you actually just really paid attention and tracked, you know The amount of volume and just incrementally just a little bit more a little bit more a little bit more over time I think you would notice tremendous difference in muscle for me personally. That was uh one of the biggest Shifts in my own programming when I started and when I had to right when you're competing and now there's something on the line Um, I I had to improve and build muscle After one show after another also, I'm not going to win, right? I'm so You know and I had to do that and when I did that it made me it really opened my eyes about my own pitfalls Or my own like habits of kind of like form. So I I think that a lot of people Just do that we gravitate towards the things we like you have some good weeks where you train really hard Then you have weeks where you back off naturally and when you look at it From like a bird's eye view and calculated a lot. It's like, oh, wow. I pretty much always average About this much and simply being able to just know how to scale volume. I think who is I want to add one more. I know that we said three, but I'll add one more which is Eating in a calorie surplus and then eating adequate protein feeding the muscle for most people It's not for all because some people have digestive issues in relation to what I'm talking about for most people Eating a high protein diet as long as your workout programming is good and you're getting good sleep Eating a high protein diet has profound muscle building a better, you know effects in comparison to let's say Eating what the rda says you should eat in terms of protein and then a calorie surplus like If you want to add new active tissue to your body Your body needs building blocks for that and if it's not provided those building blocks It's gonna be very hard. You can send all the great muscle building signaling that you want It just can't happen. It's like having instructions to build a house and You have the workers there ready to go and there's no bricks and there's no wood and there's no nails And so they're left there saying we want to build but we can't we don't have the building blocks So I know they said three But I wanted to throw that in there and I think that those the ones that we listed are I mean just in what you said about having a stall a solid foundation and base You know why that's important because I'm sure some people listening like I just go work out and you'll build muscle If you don't have a solid base, you're gonna at some point you're gonna Early probably you'll hit a wall and then you're screwed injury In balance your cns is going to identify that you can't get stronger because it doesn't feel very stable This is why good coaches always start with that. That's always the place that you start You're never going to reach your full potential, right? And I think that's yeah That's really just why I wanted to address that is just like to be able to Have that focus and intention First thing like you're going to reap the benefits later with building muscle The next question is from vane west four How much water should you drink daily is a gallon really necessary? The gallon number is kind of arbitrary. I don't want to say totally because there's some some stuff to back it But it's kind of arbitrary that was promoted by the I guess the muscle building community But I will say this about water, okay I had no idea as a young trainer the impact that Optimal hydration versus minimal Hydration had on the body like most people are not Quote-unquote dehydrated. I hate when they use that word like oh, you need more water because you dehydrated Well, I'm not really you've got enough water to be okay But then there's a level that's more optimal and what you notice is your skin changes Joint pain often gets affected energy energy goes up. That's a big one. This one was this one really tripped me out I had clients where I you know, luckily I worked with a A health practitioner that was very wellness focused at one point This is before I was really into wellness And I would hear her tell her clients this over and over again And then I'd hear the clients come in and say, oh my gosh I've got way more energy because I'm drinking more water and I remember the first couple times I heard it It was like, yeah, that's probably something else. Yeah, that's probably whatever after about the fifth or sixth person I said, I wonder if there's something to this. Let me pay attention to water and take with my clients and I would do things like have them get a Container of water where they could measure it and we would measure out, you know Between half a gallon to a gallon depending on the person and their size and I'd say, okay I want you to make sure to drink four of these Every single day. So now the person's aware and they would come back and say the same thing I have more energy. I feel so much better. My my my elbow pain feels a lot better No more mental fog this has a huge this the optimal hydration has a huge impact on all that stuff I noticed for the pumps when I worked. I mean, here's the deal carbs You know pre-workout supplements arganine citrulline I mean you name it. I've tried them all nothing gave me better pumps than just having a lot of water or adequate water Or optimized water intake before my workout. So this has a this has a pretty big impact I'm glad you set the table like that because I actually I get really annoyed by the trainers that that talks shit about this because This is one of those things very similar to the conversation we had earlier in this podcast where Generally speaking, it's pretty damn good advice Yeah, but you have some of these nerds that want to be that's not true and based off of their lean body mass their activity level There should be this many ounces based off and it's like dude You obviously haven't trained that many people before because ain't nobody sitting down And calculating that all out and very few people even keep track of how many glasses they do in the day either It's much easier to give a client a very basic goal The or even have them like I like to do carry this gallon around or half gallon and you have to drink it go through It's it and you're not going to drown Drinking one gallon of water. So it's a good goal If you come a little bit under this it's going to be a huge difference No, it's not but in my experience almost every client ever trained didn't drink enough water And when we started drinking more water, we noticed these things we noticed skin We noticed hair we noticed these things start to get better Also, like I even noticed with clients like the achiness and their joints and feeling tight like I noticed it like lubricated They're like their their ability to move better. Like it saw things like that start to go away So and then you talk about pumps There's lots of benefits to it and then there's this side in the fitness space that loves to take Like this old kind of old adage of drink a gallon of water And then they want to shit all over it because the science doesn't support exactly that and it's like, dude What you're doing is you're you're going to tell you're going to tell a majority of the masses who aren't drinking enough water Oh, it's not a big deal because this whole drinking a gallon is just this made up number. So I'm not going to worry about it Yeah, the number is arbitrary But the focus on it is really important And to be able to be purposeful like throughout your day of seeking out water Like we just know all those benefits that we've been listening off It's really those are substantial benefits that you're going to receive from just like intentionally trying to increase the amount of water that you're consuming every day and so To have some kind of goal So if you can figure that out, like you said, even if it's a half gallon or or the gallon, whatever the marker is You know, you should be like constantly thinking that in the back of your mind It's it's when you're not thinking about it. Now all of a sudden things start to decline and Guess what? You know, this is an important part of training. Yeah, you know, how much It affects cravings and hunger for some people. Yeah, that too because they're not drinking enough water You know, I would say if you're The kind of average person and you're working out and you're kind of getting into it Half a gallon is a nice place to start If you eat a lot of protein, you're a fitness fanatic, you carry a lot of muscle Then probably more towards a gallon. Now those are again, those are general Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously talking to a 115 pound woman versus a 260 pound, you know, man Of course, there's difference for rda type stuff, right? But here's the deal One gallon is just not a bad. I mean one gallon is going to cover most people Is it a little more than some people are going to eat? Yeah, but are you going to drown from having, you know, a half a gallon too much? No, no, so it's not to me. It's it's it's good advice It's not something you should get freaked out about if you barely miss your one gallon But I think it's a it's a good generic target. You want to know what else is funny Do you know how many times digestive issues, especially constipation is solved by drinking more water? Sure Literally constipate like I I've had clients where this was because I had someone who did gut health in my studio And they would work on my clients along with me and I do the training and they do the other stuff And I they would tell me afterwards, you know, what was the well, you know, what's the recommendation say? Well, I'm just going to start drinking more water and I'm like, but you've had, you know Your constipation issues have been with you for years. I know but they want me to drink more water All right, let's see what happens and it was like 30 percent of the times like three out of ten people that solved their constipation issue And I remember being blown away by it. So There's remember there's there's adequate and there's optimal just like with protein You know, if you have about 60 grams of protein a day, you're going to be okay You're not going to die is that optimal for building muscle and performance for most people? No for most people. It's much more than that same thing with water. There's you're you're probably not Drinking too little to where, you know, shit's gonna go wrong, but then there's optimal in which you'll notice some some benefits Next question is from Rui Marquez Insta. Is a week without training beneficial or will I lose muscle? It depends who I'm talking to and if you're like every other week you miss. Yeah, you're probably not gonna be okay If you're consistent with your training Losing a week is not a big deal. In fact, there was a study that we've talked about now a couple times where They took people they took two groups of people One side trained every single week The other group did three weeks on one week off three weeks on one week off At the end of the study, there were no significant differences between the two groups in terms of muscle mass or strength, which is Incredible you're talking about One every three weeks someone takes a week off versus always working out now I do think there are other benefits to being consistent. So I do want to be clear Moving is just good for you whether it builds more muscle or not. There's mental health benefits to it There's the discipline aspect of it where it's probably better to try to be consistent than to miss, you know time So i'm not saying that they're equal in all aspects But the question is will I lose muscle? No, if you're consistent and you and you miss a week You're not going to lose any muscle if you do you'll gain it right back very quickly And in many cases, I think you'll come back stronger with a little bit more muscle I remember when we just I mean it wasn't that long ago when we read that study I thought that was extremely fascinating. I would have never guessed that I wouldn't have guessed that The week off every third week Would actually result in the same amount of muscle as somebody who trained every single day for that You know, what was it? I think it was three month period or whatever. It was like 16 weeks or something Yeah, it was it was a long it was a pretty long study and for them to miss that much time I thought I would I would have thought there would have been at least a little bit of a decline But this it showed that they were the same I thought that was really fascinating. I guess I mean the way you said it's perfect If you're somebody who is inconsistent That's the only way I'd be careful about giving this advice to if it's a client who I haven't even been able to Streak three months in a row of training consistently Then I'm probably going to advise them to not miss as much as they can because they're already constantly missing But if you're the fitness fanatic and you're the person who loves to work out and you rarely miss Uh, yeah, not only will the week not hurt you many times it will actually end up benefiting you totally Next question is from veggie lifts are knee sleeves necessary for power lifting necessary So if you want to look serious So there's a difference between knee sleeves and knee wraps So I want to first I want to you know, make sure we we discern the difference, right? So Knee wraps are very tight and create a tremendous amount of pressure and there's springiness in the knee wraps And stability in them and you'll get you'll add weight to the bar Because the wraps are so tight and because when you put them on if you put on power lifting knee wraps, right? It's hard to bend your knee when you have them on can't really sit down with just body weight No, it's it's so it's like adding a little bit of a spring to especially the bottom portion of the squat So we're not talking about that we're talking about knee wraps and knee wraps are kind of tight and they go around the knee Do they add, you know, like strength to your your your knee not really but why can people lift more with them? We had an interview with jordan shallow the other day that hasn't aired or maybe we'll air on we are this episode But he talked about the different ways that the brain Perceives signals pain is one of them pressure is another one and pressure is faster than pain And my theory now is when you wear a sleeve and they say it warms up the joints. That's why they don't hurt I think what's happening is The brain is perceiving the pressure of the knee sleeve and it's and you're not perceiving the pain as much So I wear the knees leaves Now my knees feel looser and I feel like I can squat without warming up as much I think that's probably plus it provides the feedback mechanism back that there's a bit of more stability Within that that joint itself and if that is a conscious psychological Barrier for you going into a squat You know, that's something immediately there's going to be a performance Loss in terms of If I'm if I'm dropping down in position, but I'm very conscious at my knees, you know a bit of an issue Like there's a bit of instability there, uh, you know adding more demand more load To that situation is going to get you to you know, it's going to expose that That being the weak link so to add the the sleeves a lot of times like psychologically You know may help in terms of like feeling like you're just more stable like a thunder vest Yes, like a thunder vest for your knees. I love that. I mean, I think the the the short and quick answer to this Are they necessary is is no it's definitely not necessary and in fact if you can power lift without any of the tools And that's wraps and sleeves and what are there? Belt and all those popular. I mean you're better off I mean if you if you can power lift and do well and perform and Without any of those tools you're going to be better off in real life Then if you have to use all those tools now, there's some competitions and power lifting that allow you to use all these Learn how to yeah, they allow you to use all these accessories And so if you can and there's an advantage to using some of these then you've gotten a thousand pounds I've probably suggested right right so there's there's definitely there's definitely an advantage to doing that But uh, there's actually more benefits to you not if you don't have to yeah I think if you compete and they allow knee wraps and a belt Then you should train with them to learn how to use them because you can't just put them on the average person And expect them to lift more weight. There's a skill and technique and a comfort and a feel that you get from using them So that's different now if you now for the average person who's not going to actually go and compete in competitions And just wants to work out I here's why I don't like knee wraps or excuse me not knee wraps, but definitely not knee wraps, but knee sleeves I think it it hides the issue and I think it prevents people from solving the root issue So if my knees kind of bother me and then I put a wrap on and ooh, they feel a little better I haven't solved the problem. You're not really listening to your body's feedback No, and I would even go as far as to say if you don't solve the problem And you allow yourself to train heavy because of knee sleeves Then you're the risk of injuries even higher down the road because now i'm pushing through Or maybe my body's not perceiving the pain the same because of this outside pressure signal And I can use more weight and now my my risk of injury later on becomes a bigger problem Do you think more people use them uh because they are trying to tamp down pain? Or do you think more use it because of the advantage it gives you for like the rebound effect? Well knee wrap knees sleeves don't give you a ton. You've ever worn sleeves. Yeah, they're not a huge They do they do not really I mean we're gonna add two pounds It's not like a wrap like that's a different ball game actual sleeves are more like what they would they say it warms your joints up Reduces pain feels more comfortable. Sometimes you'll see bodybuilders worm on their elbows If you ever seen them do that because it you know it feels but I think it's just not solving The cause it allows you to push past pain And there might be some value in that like I could see like a bodybuilder They got the show coming up like I can't back off I mean I I I used them like playing around with them. I never used them consistently and uh, I didn't have pain That's not why I put them on I put them on because I felt uh, I had an advantage from coming coming out of the hole I mean see I get that from the compression pants, too, but they're not compressing so much Right, I think it's really the feedback It's just feels tight and so you don't get a whole lot of stored elastic energy. Yeah, that's not a ton But I feel like that Because like a way jordan was explaining it how it communicates the brain Your your your cns probably allows you to perform a little bit better because of that outside You know kind of signal. Yeah, interesting But I mean relying on it and not solving the like if your back hurts if you don't wear a belt So you always wear a belt like you're setting yourself up For some problems. You might want to figure out why the hell your back hurts in the first place And that's how I feel about Sleeves like this now if you use the sleeve as a way to Allow you to move in a way that solves the root cause Then now the sleeves are being used in my opinion in a really good way Yeah, I think it just it's become like a a thing You're you're a bodybuilder You wear the weight belt around and you do it with tricep push downs and bicep curls and you do it the whole entire workout You're a power lifter You've got your knee sleeves either probably rolled up or you got them hanging down on your ankles until you go Do your deadlifts or like that or your squats? It's just uh, I think it's become an accessory as far as like, uh, you know Parallel I remember as a kid Uh, obviously bench press was the exercise. That's the one all the All the guys in high school talked about how much could you bench out? So as all as all I focused on was how strong I could get into bench press because that's what the bragging rights came from And I remember at one point My wrist started to bother me because I would use a thumbless grip this kind of like suicide grip They call it and my wrists were bothering me. I'm like, oh man, what am I going to do? And then someone's like put on, uh, you know these wrists. Uh, what were they wrist wraps, right? And they actually went around your wrist They were for power lifters and they're tight and low and behold my wrist didn't hurt anymore and I could bench more weight Well, I never fixed the problem later on as an adult. I'm like, why do I'm wearing these? I don't want to wear these more. I took them off wrist hurt again I had to relearn technique and form and then of course over time I was able to lift as much as I could before but that's the issue that I I see with some of the stuff is They don't solve the problem. They throw the band-aid on They continue to push their body and then you start to get problems later on that are or harder to solve or maybe take longer To solve Look, if you like our information head over to mind pump free dot com and check out some of our guides We have guides that can help you build muscle or burn body fat or even become a better personal trainer again It's mind pump free Dot com you can also find all of us on instagram. So justin is at mind pump justin I'm at mind pump salin adam is at mind pump adam Hey, look if you like that whole episode click right here for shorter clips where we talk about specific topics You'll love it and don't forget to subscribe if you enjoyed our content and you want more