 Title IV D was initially means-based. So basically, women had to show a need, right? I've got food stamps and this is what I need. But then in the 80s, people figured out, wait a minute, they're giving reimbursements if we collect this. Let's just make everybody do it, right? There's women who are professionals who don't need child support, yet their ex-husbands who make less than them are still ordered to pay them and they make far more. Not because they need it. I'm thinking the state makes money off of that, right? So that logic really doesn't work and they can't show us numbers to justify that. They've said that, by the way. It's a very feminist point of view. The fact is, is that most men who can pay do pay. But we have a lot of men out there. You guys, they make $10 an hour. They're ordered to pay $400 a month in child support. You can't be living in your car. By the way, they don't care. They'll let you live in your car.