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Now listen today on the breakfast club Well last week on the breakfast club we interviewed Somebody who I found very entertaining and all I kept thinking to myself was Andrew Schultz has to meet this person Ladies and gentlemen flame Monroe is here I remember we had Ida on we told Ida we wanted to have flame on yeah Man, Ida loves you. I was just telling you that earlier. I love Ida Rodriguez. That's my baby That's my Latin fire. Yeah, if I white a you were saying something very interesting If you've seen the Tiffany Haddish she ready special on Netflix Then you've probably seen flame But you was given Ida a lot of props because you said out of all of us Ida is the most visible out of the six Of us right now. She's really on social media She's working everywhere Ida always uplifts each and every one of us wherever she goes, you know So meeting this time, but maybe shanty the next time right April the next time maybe Tracy Then maybe Marlowe it but she always recognizes all of us and that is black empowerment or that is female empowerment, right? To me because you know, she not bitching us and motherfucking us and tenors now She giving us a platform to say hey bring my girl on this my girl We connected we bonded and behind the scenes we pat each other on the back We gave each other love go out there and kill it because I'm coming it was like a bowling game Go smash if you don't knock them down. I'm coming back behind you knock them down. It was everybody was great Now you say women's empowerment, but your booking email is he she we at gmail.com Don't mean I can't empower women. I'm a trans woman. I emulate a woman Let me say that I emulate a woman I learned how to be a girl or a woman from watching a girl or a woman Okay, let's never get that confused that I would disrespect real women like that because to me That's us disrespecting our mothers or whoever raised us Because I know who I am. I didn't learn how to be no girl from watching your ass But I appreciate what she did we're so busy caught up in the moment of what what black women or what women didn't empower other women Right, let's talk about the positive ones that deal. Yeah, you were saying he had it You were saying something really interesting is that just because you see women on TV doesn't necessarily mean they're an empowering role Like they could be bickering and fighting on these young girls see that this is how they grow up They think this is okay. Oh, I'm gonna have the best shoes. I'm gonna marry this man I'm gonna go to this boutique and mid motherfucking bitch and fight over stupid stuff So this is who they grow up to become this is who they go all the shows that positive all the Oprah Winfrey uplifting I love you love yourself and power me shows Can't know bitch do what I do show Because it's too long Oprah will always be on for that is she's saying back in the day. Oh, okay. Okay. Let me make sure I give Oprah hajees That's Oprah. Do you think? positivity Now you can bring her in bring boy that boy come have a mullin. Do you think positivity? Is just a hard sell I think that people don't realize that energy is transferable got you round surround yourself with negativity all the time It's gonna jump on you like a ghost It's gonna be always just be at you because you're gonna do when in Rome you do what Romans do So I surround myself for the whole bunch of negativity Eventually all late all the energy gonna jump on me. I'm be the most negative I'm usually pleasant and fun and bubbly. Yeah, hold on You gotta leave exactly. Um, I got a little time. I can okay. So listen tell tell her tell we're bring her in 1130 and then Okay, so we oh we're so excited to have you on because we've had all these conversations I feel like there's all these conversations about trans stuff And there's never anybody trans present that you can like ask and actually understand claim different, bro So, yeah, I know she didn't she was explained to me earlier But when you said for example that you're emulating a woman aren't there certain trans people that would be upset by God We were just talking about that. Do you understand that they come in after me burning rainbow flags and marches in front of my house? Really because let me let me let me break it down. I love you my trans sisters always had to throw that disclaimer in there She said Unfortunately is the white motherfucker. That's the word like when it when someone in the office goes unfortunately We say we love Hey, this nigga, this motherfucker owe me money. Yeah, baby white people are so smooth-witted. Oh my god Mr.. God, we love you here at the company. You have done such an amazing job What did you ask me it was about the their at your door they're burning rainbow flags Oh, yeah, because as a transgender woman and here's the misconception of my sister's gonna be mad at me We we love to look beautiful. We love to be soft and gorgeous blend in all of that But when men are attracted to us They're not attracted to us just because beauty helps the softness helps But they don't want you to be too soft because if you become too soft of hormones you become too soft of hormones They're attracted to us for the male anatomy, but in their psyche. They feel like I Don't feel like I'm with a man because it don't look like this. It's a safe expression Gay in a lot of ways exactly You need to know who you are see this is the problem with us We don't know who I know who I am. I know how what I like I know how I like it and I make no apologies for I Don't care about what you think or what he thinks as you shouldn't and by the way That's what life should be about right. It's just very hard for people not to be by the way you 50 years old Right, so we grown I'm 41. I'm very grown It takes it takes a while to get to that level of I don't give a fuck Yeah, but I always knew who I was I knew who I was from a very young age Now I still had to go through the ups and downs of life with you know Your mother saying this or you're somebody else making you feel a certain kind of way But whenever I try to conform a change for somebody else I always went back to basis because it never worked for me man I wasn't comfortable. Can I tell you my spiritual about it told me last night during a Spiritual counseling session cuz you She said She said This is a new addition She says whenever Hold on god damn it. How the fuck can I find it? She basically said whenever you're being your true authentic self You've been hurt Meaning like we know when you when I see and she bought it back to my my inner child when I was a kid when I was a kid and I was eight years old and my cousin's ex-wife used to be you know Let me suck a titties and and giving me head. I used to like it right and then when she got the Jerry curl I made her stop because I didn't like the smell of her Jerry curl And so then that woman started insulting me all the time. You understand. I'm saying felt rejected Yeah, so she started insulting me so me being my true authentic self saying no I don't want this anymore. I don't want this anymore caused me pain You know me so that that makes us that makes us all Try to be what people want us to be to avoid the pain. This is this is like baked into our DNA Biologically, I was looking up looking at like back in the day when we were living in like little tribes If you disagree with the group, they just killed you they couldn't have one person disagree with the group Or you would put you in the same style of course, right? So is anybody disagree with us so it's in our DNA to kind of conform They do those weird conformity experiments where they put like eight people in an elevator and then seven will all just turn Around for no reason is the beauty of being of knowing who you are right your independent thinker a hundred percent But it's it's it's it's scary to get there for most people I think that's why we look up to those that are independent thinkers Even if we disagree with them because we understand the fucking balls it takes Are you transition are you transition fool no hell no so you kept a blessed woman Changed and shit, but my name got three kids. You got three kids biological now get them the old play like pussy I know we're talking about this and you said that you like female to male So that means you like so they thought up as a woman a transition to a man But they usually keep the vagina. Yeah, okay, so this is this is an amazing photo likes girl that look like you Thank you, bro I'm not This oh you like you like you don't you know, that's you are 50. That's the black girl Catch me You listen to Dolomite say way down in the jungles Yeah Your legs I need to look like Pam grills Afro in the 70s The magic treats Very handsome me I'm attracted you like oh my god, he's gorgeous, but I just I'm not attracted to being penetrated That just don't do nothing for me. Okay, so listen when you say so you call these women so they're trans what it would that be? That would be trans man. Okay, so you like trans men. Yeah, I mean that's your daddy My baby boy, they demand 23 hours a day. They open the doors. They do everything man do for the one-hour dance. They don't Interesting and then so you dominate in that situation baby in every situation in the bedroom. I'm that girl So the bedroom is completely flipped, but life you want to be dominated I'm always gonna work right, but I want somebody to Yes, and appreciate and women are so attached and so loyal and my grandmother used to always say this is what separates trans women from Real women or cis women. That's a new word cis women. Yeah My grandmother should always tell my auntie's a woman's strength and weakness is the exact same thing her loyalty Because a woman will stay when she knows she should have been gone for the sake of her children for her statue for whatever a man We cuz I still got a man's heart mentality and a man. I'm going the baby. I'm tired. This is getting my goddamn nerves I'm going to get off a breed 20 years later. I ain't came back That was a great excuse back in it. But this is why I'm saying women are loyal to a fault, right? We don't have that because we still think and most queens. I know a hustlers Yeah, the queens in relationships are most of time the men in relationship because they make the money They make the breed they got to hustle in the drive. Uh-huh. The man is just the showpiece Interesting now here's a question. I've always had and I and maybe you have some perspectives We you know trans people speak about feeling like they're in the wrong body or feeling like the opposite gender I don't know what it feels to be a man, right? I just know what it feels to be me I'm just walking around as me and I guess when I was a kid. I felt like a kid an adult I feel like an adult but I don't know by understand your explanation that you confuse this shit out of me I said emulate exactly. So then what is the so so so my question I couldn't I couldn't even answer that because I've never felt like I was in the wrong body, but you've heard that term before right, but I'm very comfortable with me So the changes I made I added on you wanted to do it. Okay So then the question is like, how did you know that this was the most comfortable for you before you ever? You know had makeup or wave or wore a dress like you seen somebody on TV It was and it was simple as that Beverly was sad from all in the family and when I saw her I knew I was going to be okay because that is who I was but I was only six at that young age I wouldn't dress now. See now. Let's go to that to the young age thing. I don't agree with the whole Johnny Johnny identifies as a girl in Johnny seven Who's in charge of your house because I beat Johnny's ass and said look a healer player You can identify as a girl at home You're not going out in the streets and to school like that because I know how cruel the world is That is considered problematic I'll take it but Johnny when you hit puberty and you And you still got that then we'll have that talking if I feel that you're ready to do that Because I'll do that because here's what happens because life is phases and your mind changes from years to years Right, right. So you let little Johnny identify as a girl Some of these parents are giving these little boys testosterone blockers at nine and do this crazy You shrink his penis you mess up his sperm count. He starts going breast But then Johnny turns 17 and meets some little girl that he likes get him some some vagina for the first time She don't want to do this. You know and she don't want them. You got titties I can't have your baby because you shrunk your penis so it's small So you didn't mess Johnny's mind up completely as the parent Because you ain't let Johnny just be I mean just you somebody needs to be in charge Yes, so Johnny comes back at 19. Say he hates you. He hates his life kills himself or kills a parent Why can't we have this conversation without being considered transphobic? And that's why I love people like you because you're from that community. They'll listen to you to us They just always being transphobic. No, they get so excited her. I'm looking emails like you wouldn't believe it But but what's interesting is that like I feel like we're having a conversation and we're asking questions because we truly don't understand it And when you don't understand things is bliss. So if you want to know ask Exactly what I want to do what I want to do with people in my in my touring and meeting people because I tell y'all I want to be a spokesperson But I want to be able to talk to you and you might have thought of this about a trans person But after talking to me you have let the shield down and be like, you know, I'm saying it's cool to say Yeah, maybe I can meet another one like that Talking to you you might have been a little abstract a little apprehensive The elf said the same thing to me. You say flame. I didn't know what to think talk to you 20 minutes You didn't let the curtain down Like I told y'all because she talking shit and laughing That's all we want to do give me a part of a drink smoke some wheeler talk to shit and laugh and give me stuff I don't smoke weed I'm an edible girl. I don't smoke weed Now I love what you when you say he's she and we I love how you break that down Because the man and me been pimping a woman and me for 25 years because market partner don't make no money Slam on road make it all so he cashed a check she get the money and we spend it. That's one person. That's my pronoun I don't know what happened if I love it Don't you think it's wild that they want us to learn all these new pronouns you even said sis just now you like that's some new Shit, how do you think we feel I just always have grown up with real women a real woman or what's our slang for fish? See that's fish over there. Wait, wait. What is that? That's what we call that's what the gay community calls real women That what if you got a odor? I actually think that is whether the terminology fish derived from but that was before my time Even so that's been going around for years and years and years, but I don't I don't know I didn't I don't ask where that came from. I don't even ask what the boys when they pants up under the ass came from They say it's prison. I don't know Taylor reject that. That's a slur I'm respectful to women so so flame was talking to me about um There's a show called root paul's drag race which is like one of the biggest shows out It's it's a massively popular show 27 seasons. It's so many seasons and massively popular within the lgbtq community um And and it's First of it's kind in a lot of ways where it's like a show that's made for gay people It's not trying to explain gay people to straight people But it's actually made to entertain gay people right which is great Which is great, but flame had some interesting points about that. I never knew for example He's very picky or is it he trans? Yeah, we're probably I didn't pass as a man Okay, so he does not uh allow transgender performers to audition for the show. You can't have boobs and Augmentation or anything because you're not allowed to but you can do it after you tape But you can't do it be prior to Well, that's this is where we keep screaming for inclusion outside of our community But we don't have inclusion within our community and nobody will see us Until we see us and we don't see us You know what? I'm gonna tell you something that's so interesting about that because I thought about that when you said it earlier I never ever thought about the transgender trans woman or just to trans struggle until Caitlyn jenna I never thought about it. That was never a struggle. But no, I'm just saying this deck That's when that whole conversation started for I guess people that weren't in that community, you know what I'm saying because it was that it wasn't in your face It wasn't in my face and then it was about the laws in North Carolina Like I was like I remember even saying well, what were they doing before? What were they using the bathroom at before this law or whatever? I am so not caught up on the pronouns in the bathrooms when I got a pee. I'm going to pee That's the male or female bathroom. I go to the bathroom take care of my business. Watch my hands and come to hell Up out of there. I'm not holding court and my joke is some days I use the male's bathroom Some days I use the female because some days I wear pants and some days I wear skirt Same process gonna happen. I'm gonna put my skirt up put my pants down put my dick out I'm pissing in the toilet ladies. You know about been in your bathroom because the player me see a little seat up That's not fair yo, that's the equivalent of white privilege in a lot of way Them long fucking lines at the games and you like, you know, fuck that this men's bathroom too long. I'm going to women's That ain't fair Well life ain't fair If it was you had a hat off and would have had a hat The queen was coming Themself Okay, so have you ever tried a a uh Transitioned vagina female. Oh hell. No, I never want to try to somebody like accidentally they got you I know what a pussy is. I'm a connoisseur of the vagina Interesting it ain't gonna smell the same definitely. I don't have one so before y'all stop blasting me out Okay, that wouldn't even interest me. Okay, because there was a question that we asked uh last I think it was last week or maybe a couple weeks and that was If you get a transition vagina does it come with a hymen? What? No, I'm sure not. I'm I'm I'm not sure. Let me don't say that because you know, they'd be up and on I don't I don't know and I don't want to know right I'm attracted to the one that does what I needed to do when it's time Right. I needed to juice and I needed to smell but because you're a pheromone In a way that attracts the man every man has a woman that has a certain smell It's always that one that will reel you in with smell. You know, she wants my daddy used to say If it smelled like a loan leave it alone if it smelled like fish eat all you wish Really? Yeah, the daddy was the daddy was old school like me. I like it Have you ever had to fight a fighter guy? I know but I'm just saying like I'm talking about I'm talking about in this like you and you and you and full flame and rose What happened? You should check my record. I got some stories back in Really? I'm not into the whole I know gay bashing does happen But I don't kind of worry about that because I'm I'm prepared. I'm gonna say that that's politically correct I'm prepared. Now. You look like you'll fuck somebody up I'm so nice and feminine you see the arms no muscles Because that's gotta be wild to be a guy start some shit with you and then you beat them to fuck up in the way I have learned with this how to control the narrative pretty much now But sometimes you just can't and sometimes you are in situations where you are just in danger and fear for your life But then I'm ask myself. Would I rather be judged by 12 or carried by six? I'd rather be judged by 12. You're not gonna be around to tell us you're a nigga Say that That's an old school. I don't know what you're talking about. That's an old school game to sing. I'd rather be carried by And because I'm so comfortable with me charlemagne that word you just said flame you just think In the game I was in the comedy game for so many years 19 years the first eight nine years The other male comedians when you speak to me, I couldn't get no love I couldn't get a fist bump because my security bothered their insecurity I've been in the game for 19 20 years There is now one male comedian that could say flame pushed up and this one I was young and a monster the body was banging was at six waistline was snatched Beautiful young skin lived as one no male comedian now I got a fucking list that I could drop and take some heads off. What do you mean people try to try you? Yeah, holla, baby. I got some stories. But what would it do for me to out them? You know what I'm saying? Yeah Understand that you understand the consequences of when the trans girls out these men Especially when they're professional athletes when they have good lives livelihood for every black professional male athlete that you see that made it to a team is 50 that didn't So you're gonna catch feelings for a trick because that's all he is. It's a trick You're gonna catch feelings for a trick knowing he already got a wife He got kids. He has a family. He can't be with you for Thanksgiving You knew that when you started dealing with this nigga my issue with the queens is they always say Well, he had a choice. So did you the queens had a choice If you want to deal with a man that's gonna hold your hand and take you to the family barbecue and kiss you in the mouth Good luck And when you out then you just fucking up your sex life. It ain't even just that and they used to be the ass They're taking us a lot of here now This is what I'm saying because you have to know that there is a choice in what you do There is consequences of repercussions to the shit that you do Interesting old school queen old school queens know to shut the fuck up in my easter ray voice Shut the fuck up That's why you know when you was asking me about the Malik Yoba interview with the trans uh trans women The reason how they didn't push back on that is because I don't feel like it's my job to Understand what it is that they're experiencing. It's just my it's just my job to Understand they have the right to be who they are and not be killed for it But I was on you because charlamagne you go hard player you do go hard and I I respect that I actually like when you pull up out of people, but I get Nigga who you ain't I was mad at you because I'm like I understand that she was confused because I was at home confused But I'm like you giving this nigga a pass Ask this nigga nigga. Do you hear what you're saying to me? You saying you like a beautiful woman with a penis you a man. You a straight man You don't know no women with no fucking penises. That's the real of the whole situation right there. Yeah, you're right You don't know no woman with no penis. No, you're absolutely right. That's some bullshit. That's what I was saying If I could have called in I would have called now here. Let me break the whole Malik down Malik called me before he did this Anomaly personally I do we were cool Work who uh, and he called and y'all say Malik don't do it. He said flame. I'm just shocked I said Malik don't do it. Do you know who the first community gonna turn on you is? He said who the straight community? I say no the trans girls Guess what they did turned on his ass. Why that is what we do by nature I don't ask me why I got many stories I'm not gonna tell this right here. Yeah is a gold man And this is a gold man of jewels, but this knows how to keep the mouth closed Even if you made me angry and we had did something you either select What is what is it going to do for my career to put you on blast? Even the woman, uh, the woman who But why would they turn on him? I for what what did he say a lot of people saying it was confusion and uh, Confusing they were saying the young girls came out and said that he was dating them when they were young Yes, and she called the radio station. She called that day and she was a hollywood. Why would y'all put him on the air? First community I told him that was going to turn on him was the trans community and they did And then which is why I am who I am because you think I care about them You know how much I get but them hoes know so to tell we we we gonna have to go and you said y'all were cool Why y'all not cool no more because I was not with his platform I never agree with what he was saying. I say you are confusing the youth You you're not confusing me because then I know what you do But you're confusing the youth because you're telling me and you disrespect the women because you keep saying you're attracted to a Beautiful woman with a penis Ain't no fucking woman got no penis and you know the difference between a vagina and penis Then you got a couple of baby mamas and a couple of kids. Yeah, so who you confuse? Who are you trying to sell it to back to what I said? They feel like that when they with all this femininity They still not with a man, right? It's it's so you think we just need this kind of realness, bro But no this is interesting So so you think that malik actually might be struggling with his homosexuality struggling. He's gay Yeah, but see that's when they confuse you right because your whole life, right? You're taught that two men sleeping with each other is gay same sex relation. Thanks. Say thanks. Say you can suck two dicks Thanks. Say you can suck two dicks When I said that I thought about this Where are you my I'm a cancel you know What day june 29th? I'm july 14. Yeah, but it's it's crazy that we grew up This way too much shit in the room with baby, uh-huh I'm about to bring another cancer in here in a minute my girl bonon. She's from South Africa Oh, cuz cancers can't go together Interesting good. Go on. I didn't want to interrupt. Go on. I'm just saying our whole life We were taught same sex relations. Yeah, it's gay. Yeah, so now when you got people saying no, it's not Are you got Malik? Yo was saying he sleeps with women with penises. It is very it's not just confusing the kids. It's confusing to everybody Here's my sexuality. I like what I like, right? That's it. Right. So if I want to do some penis I'm allowed to do that because that's what I wanted to do right because I don't oh, you know Excuse and nobody knows what's going on in my bedroom unless I tell him right or your partner tells Shit your damn mouth interesting I don't care what the presentation looks like You'll never know what's going on in private unless somebody tells it. Do you think that we'll get to a point where? No, no, no, this this is this intrigue We think we get to a point where we stop Assuming that our sex life is synonymous with our living life. In other words You know, you could walk around in a dress and heels and all that kind of stuff But when it comes to home, you might just want a traditional woman Oh, so now you're describing my life. No because you like Male to female. Yes, I do right or very butch lesbian you said So what I'm saying is like, do you think we'll get to a point where we go back? We almost revert back to hey, what happens between the sheets? That's your business and then outside in the world do whatever the fuck you want to do now with social media It's it's just too out there. It's not with social media. It's just ruined so much stuff as as good as it is Great as it is. It's just It's detrimental people don't talk to each other anymore People don't talk to each other and they don't give anything time to cook Meaning like something can go out Everybody rushes to a conclusion that becomes the narrative and that's it And then when things come back around and you realize like oh, I was wrong about that. Nobody wants to admit they're wrong Nobody keeps that same energy when it comes to being fucking wrong If everybody could if people could admit they were wrong on social media social media would be Oh speaking of being wrong Vanessa bell Callaway I didn't want that to seem like I was doing a dig at you on that show the other day because girl I love you. We started off rough, but we're great. You're a fantastic mother and you did a great job Heria, let me say that because it looked like I was throwing Vanessa under the bus the other day I love Vanessa. So give us some context what the hell you talking about. What's going on? Well, I take the temi make show the temi make fox show and they were she was asking me about Vanessa Bell Callaway And we started off rocky, but we ended up being really cool and I didn't clean that part up So I don't want to say like we know because I as a mother she's been her daughter's Phenomenal people right she raised wonderful people. Yeah, and uh, she was brilliant and harry. 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Yeah started in the radio personality tv personality Now she got shows and books and lingerie and the grape wine that i make Oh You look like you enjoy some wine. No, no, no drink. You don't drink But i'll i'll stupid you but i really don't drink. It's really good for you But i was 45 i never had a desire to go to africa, but now i do You have to come i'm gorgeous. You're gonna have so much fun. I never had a desire Well, not even that i just In my spirit i never felt like i you know i wanted to go but when i hit like 45 i'm like i need to go down You have to want to go bonang. How would she be received in africa south africa? I'm not gonna show up like this first of all Well, you don't need it. It's very warm in south africa, so you wouldn't need it to do I'm not gonna even be dressed up. I wouldn't be in drake. I would just oh good. Yeah, I wouldn't be dressed up I mean south africans love gifts. You know, I think we are a very We we love uh, you know visitors. We love americans, you know, yeah If i'm not working i might even in drake so if i wouldn't work and i'll be walking around looking like a hobo Oh, well, we love hobos too I'm trying to be in south africa is very i mean south african people like i said yesterday They're just you know, just very humble and chilled My manager's sister brother-in-law is south african. I tell me you don't only what you don't only african-american I know playing put your lips on the mic. I know you haven't done it in a while, but come on Bring the mic to me That cap is going to be uh very lucrative in a couple of years Because bonnie's is closing down, you know Bonnie's but yeah, that's that's why I like the hat. Yeah You're gonna sell it for a lot of money in a couple of years. Well, if you're a fashion person Really bonnie's is closing down People would give a fuck about the hat You missed that whole thing. That's a businessman working. Do you hear that? That's why she can wear chin chill I got on the thrift shop coat girl Still look very cute. Thank you. I mean, you know, that's why supreme items are so expensive because supply and demand Demand is low Or the demand is going to be high because the supply is low Exactly. Yeah bonnie's is closing down It's like quite a thankful fashion people because it's so iconic Yeah, so you're from johannesburg. Yes. Okay. Um, remember when I remember when I was shouting out I was pronouncing her name wrong because I'm boning, but it's bonon Remember I was saluting her and saying how I follow her on instagram and she's just Living like life. Yes. You can just tell like she's living her best fucking life. Yes. This is bonon Okay, well, it's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I you know, I grew up watching all these like surfing videos so, um Which is random coming to york, but uh, there's all these like iconic surf spots I want to go see in south africa Uh, jeffreys bay is the big one. That's the big. That's the big one. Yeah, platenburg bay platenburg bay is another one Durban, I think is another big surfing. Yeah, but the thing with jeffreys bay is like there's all these great white sharks Yes Is that something that you guys are concerned about when you're swimming that like of shark attacks? Uh, yeah, especially particularly in k-town around musinburg. There's a lot of sharks So you're on vacation with your family and you're just swimming in the ocean Of course, it's african dolly. There's animals everywhere Not everywhere I gotta talk about that. I mean to see these animals if you go into the ocean they'll be sharks Right sharks are race sharks are race sharks Yeah, no, they don't bite black people Women because they call themselves the great white you always take a little billy and a little jolly Yeah, I understand no, because they're not gonna they're gonna go past my black children and bite the little white kids That's a fact They don't bite, but they don't like dark meat. So you tell me great white sharks don't bite black people Great white sharks like great white folks That's a joke y'all don't foul with your shit. Let me put up my shades There's no shark attacks and they say we don't swim we don't swim I'm googling that The last shark attack was like three years ago and it was a white it's always a white person Why people do the crazy things they like go into like the sea and shit like they do adventurous things They go up mountains and yes funny things. I mean, no No, why do you think we do that? Why do you think we do all those crazy things because you have money to do those things But you have money. You're not doing these crazy things. You're not hiking. Yeah, don't blame that on money They blame that on whiteness There's only one Steve Irwin for Steve Irwin was too white for white people I think I think it has something to do with like, um when life gets boring we need to feel like, uh, we have to survive Okay, wonderful. You know like I I don't think that like You know, there's parts of the world where people are really struggling and I don't think they have the same desire to skydive Yeah, right because every day is the struggle every day is survival. It's like find water find food That's survival. But when life is too easy, you start getting bored and you're like, okay, I need to go snowmobiling You know, I need to put myself in danger I need like so many people go to go to Africa and they go on safari, right? And like they actually they'll go hunt animals, right? And it's like I'm like, what is that about? Why do you feel the need to like tap into your like Primal roots and I was talking to a buddy of mine. He was like, I really think that like these are like reward systems baked into our humanity That's crazy. You know like going out there like why are fewer worth like millions and millions of dollars? Are you Taking a gun in the middle of the forest and trying to shoot Like a buffalo, maybe some people just like power Maybe some people just like overpowering overpowering things and of like they can't overpower a person So they go overpower anymore an animal anymore But those people that can afford to do that are probably so powerful already They're like overpowering people. It's got to be expensive to do that a private I'm sure it is. I I wouldn't really know. You've never done that. I've seen people we see people coming I mean all over the world hunting of some places. It's legal You know, they're people with licenses who are able to come into a game reserve and you know kill a giraffe and say Hey, take a picture and put it on instagram, but it is expensive. I'm sure Is it is it annoying to answer like animal questions when you come to the states all the time? Yes Well, don't walk around in chinchillas. You got a whole goddamn animal on you bonon. All right Don't walk around animals on you Yo in South Africa it's since 1905. It's only been 248 Unprovoked shark attacks only unprovoked. How do you I mean? I don't know maybe if you're going in there buckled but you know how little that is 248 since 1905. Yeah, so you have to come and surf in South Africa. You won't get eaten by a shark No, I would love to The people are warm. The food is great. Yeah, the weather's great. Yeah, everything's just fine. Okay now now another question. I have languages. Yes, okay There's obviously everybody speaking English. There's 11 in South Africa. This is why I speak six and understand nine Okay, so you speak interest English africans africans Now africans is like a blend with like dutch or something. Yeah, german dutch I think I believe so it's got a lot of Yes Yes, yeah, it's like arabic And what else is swanna sissotu northern and and southern sissotu are two different languages The clicks Can you click Can you say how thing how that's easy Yeah, so there's 11 official languages in South Africa. So but everybody unites usually around english english and isizulu isizulu Yes, okay. Yeah. Have you heard of shaka zulu? Of course shaka zulu. Yeah, I know shaka zulu I love americans. They make me laugh every second right it's like literally Oh Why do you think that we're like that? Why do you think americans have this uh, I don't know it's twang I don't know. It's an okay. Because it's just an accent. That's what makes life too great though, right? What do you mean? You have a new york accent? I got kind of the down south list. I guess a little You know, don't blame that on the south right Say again. There are many dialects. So just everyone speaks english Yeah, like you have different neighborhoods that are going to have different in different accents different areas But but I do think that there is this kind of like universal like literally Is it is everywhere? Right? Like a girl in new york could say that so there's something cultural cultural about america Like we have to Life is so good. We have to like prove. It's real. Yeah, like literally The best thing I've ever seen It's a donut. Yeah. No, really really really is definitely new york. What the fuck are we trying to convince each other? This is great observation. Why are we constantly trying to prove these things are really happening Maybe because america's I think on the low america. No, we kind of fool the shit We do we kind of know we fool the shit just a little bit because the things that you're gonna see right In south africa like they require literally way more like literally a great white shark ate that white kid literally That needs a literally Literally, it's 30 degrees out After all your silo all this black man's i'm looking at you You'll you'll your patch because i'm thinking it's a brother up under there. Who? I have a brother up under me Make him if he had a brother up under him It might be a bit warm put on ice for like 30 minutes because I want you to enjoy it like But we might have to leave after 30. Can we just try this is your own? This is her own champagne Yeah, oh my same way. Hope got ace of spades. Yeah bonang got house of b and g b and g. Yeah, and that's for bonang Yeah, it's short for bonang made in made and bottled in tecton But i'm gonna take you i'll take you to the vineyard. Let's try it. Can I try it? Yeah, okay ice I'm gonna order some anyway. Oh, so you got some money if you're if you're making champagne They told me yesterday during the brevet cup interview. I was too focused on bonang's money So i'm uh, i'm gonna act like I don't know she got it But I just do that because I like the business aspect of it. I know what I know what you're talking about I'm just like the fact that she's been able to build her brand. Yeah, oh, you don't been slapping the face of the court before You know I've heard some very good things about chicago beautiful city And what would you say that is the best city in america This is skyline I can't you can't put it on one because I love virginia beach I love I love long beach. I live in long beach california. Not necessarily l.a. Belong beach because it's just the the neighborhoods of it all okay, um Where's that? Oh, I love monterey california. Okay. I love my so it's a beautiful place But i'm see i'm old school. I like it slow and mellow. I don't like the fast taste I did all that in my 20. Yeah, what's your favorite city bonang in america? Um, I just love with this black people like atlanta georgia. I really enjoyed. I really really enjoyed that I loved miami florida I went there once that was fun. I went to dallas texas. Dallas is amazing. Yeah So, hold on. So you you left africa to find black people in america Black people, I think that's what I mean, but I I love No, I just I don't know. I just sort of gravitated towards Atlanta that's why I love you see black people working. Yeah, everywhere you go because atlanta at home there's black people everywhere Yes, so it's the norm. It's the norm. Yes, there's black people. I love being around black people too. Andrew's like the only white person I'd be around one Andrew is all the way white. I'm telling you. I'm a white man I think it's the new york upbringing when you when you brought up in new york I think your mind said it's a little bit different see i'm from down south So I know the type of white people that we want to avoid says new york your favorite city In the world. Yes. Um in america. I do love in america. It is in america. It is salute everybody salute But yeah, I think i think new york is amazing obviously i'm biased, you know, but there's There's places that are amazing to kind of like visit and just be in and just like fascinating to like look at Like tokyo is just a crazy different cultural experience. You know, I wouldn't want to live there to pen Yeah, okay, but it was just like it was just unique and wild Um, but new york just provides some very interesting like things a guy like me I could grow up in new york And be so close to all these different cultures to the point where it's really not Hard for me at all to like sit down and talk and relate. Yeah, I got you because it's not overwhelming new york Yeah, it is but when you know It is say yeah Yes They will run you over seriously. Yeah, and i'm a big bitch About new york, you realize that new york's not overwhelming when you realize nobody's really going anywhere All you got to do is walk your own pace You know how like if I was to take off running down that hall right now People in the hall probably start running too just because yeah, they're like what the fuck is going on New york kind of feels like that. It's like this rap racing everybody's running ripping and shit And you feel like you got a rip and run too, but no people are in a rush to get home to watch netflix Episode number two, thank you. Yeah It's a weird Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. That's the first thing I watch when I get home question born on when you hear the word culture in america What do you think culture? Yes? um I think music I think Not i'm not going to be specific. I think Fashion I think um Yeah music and fashion those are the two things I I think about is coaching africa is different, right? Yeah, culture. I mean I would imagine this is something that you're drawing from like Let me let me maybe what when you say culture, would you? That's what I'm asking you because I know coach in america means something different than it means I want to ask the question now before you stop. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm gonna cut you up. I want to do Yes, you did As a black woman from south africa, do you feel like the pride of women in south africa is stronger there than black women here in america? No, no, I think we're proud of different things. I'm talking about internally as a woman I haven't met enough american women to make that might not be a bad thing Because you might be kisha from the block baby You don't seem like a girl girl me. Yeah, you know, you got a lot of homeboys. I have both. Yeah. Yeah, but I yeah I have both but I I vibe with anyone, you know, yeah, I don't I'm comfortable around a lot of people. So yeah, because you're comfortable with yourself. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. How do you say cheers in? What was it? No, no in the in the language you were saying. Oh god. It's closer in Shit, how do you say it's just cheers. That's it. Yeah Cheers, let me know what you think It's good tasty Tasty Yo, Charlemagne Women so much up. I don't hate black women. I hate slain Earlier friends, I'm a whole nigga up under this week That's what my trans sister gets so offended about but when you ever see the videos when a man walked past next to a Training on the street and say, oh, what's up, nigga? What's up, dude? The training go all back and forth. They banter and going back her go-to is snatching on we gov and saying I'm still a motherfucking man Ain't that what we argued about? You should have just agreed to a bitch and kept it pushing There was that video where the dude was in GameStop because do I look like a woman? Oh, he definitely did not look like a woman This is kind of tasty What did this come in is this the only flavor uh brood rosé this is brood and there's a brood rosé There's only two. What makes something brood. I've seen that written on uh, oh, that's a cologne Brood just means the um, it's a it's a type of mcc That's what it means. It just means it's uh, you know made like any other We can't call it champagne Charlemagne because it's not from champagne It has to be from the region of champagne in France to be called champagne Tequila too, apparently has to be from Jalisco, Mexico and cognac has to be from cognac in France. Ah Fuck the French It's a grape get over it get over and I mean grape bats and bubbles You know, it's the same process But we have to call it mcc which means method cap classic But it's just made in the same way double fermentation How long did it take you to learn all this shit going on three and a half years Yeah, but we only launched this in March 18th 2019 About four years to kind of get it to where we are drinking it in new york right now You had to go through a whole process like you had to go really Of course, what was it give give us the background I mean you need to I mean I'm new in the wine industry, you know I had to kind of figure out what wine is learn a lot about wine learn about the brand learn about um um the different Kinds of brands there are different grapes, you know different fermentation methods Um, I had to get a wine master, you know and we put it together And the rest is history. I hate champagne. This is actually Why don't you like you don't drink alcohol? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a non-alcoholic flame Malibu rum for my birthday last year. I bet you got a fight too. No, I did not I get made love too I'm gonna make a non-alcoholic version. I'll send you one Yeah, yeah, but this is actually tasty. Thank you very much smooth. It's not like It's just like I have a question bonon, bonon. Sorry. How old is it? Can I ask it to be? Okay be 32. So I used to be 32 Where are you when you're 32 body was so banging Oh, no, no, no, no, I used to be a damn piece. I'm full on Harry. Tell me right now I don't like that Stop flame Exactly that I don't like the way they be depicting harried in the movie. There's no way man harried had to be like a track body I'm serious. I don't think Harry looked like no woman either. I think Harry was fooling people. She might she might have been in first original after him You know, we had to get credit to white people because black folks didn't know nothing being for real white folks helped us White folks helped. I thought you was going to forget what the harried tub I love the story harried them. I just saw the movie The movie was not about slavery the movie is about sheer determination and we it really was and uh, venice real colorway did kill it But white folks had to help us they had to help us they own boats and houses to hide So I would like for somebody to show that angle of it. Well, that's always the the misconception that that white ally is white allies are new White allies and white saviors a lot of times what hollywood likes to do They like to present white saviors as instead of white allies Fuck hollywood like stop getting your history from hollywood. I think that's the biggest problem That's like you want to really know what happened Don't be so lazy that you're condensing your whole history into like a two-hour depiction Of of this movie like read a fucking book or just google some shit. It's not that hard It works sometimes it works when it's done right though Because yo because what it does is it like taps into an emotion, right? They like they really find a way to manipulate us and like And they do that savior thing and then you know white people will go watch the movie and we'll be like man It was really amazing what happened in friday at lights or what amazing what happened in these situations For sure, but reality is like you don't need to get your information from there. It's not their responsibility It's not hollywood's responsibility and you're absolutely right But I hate to say that is how majority of people learn they learn expect they learn through arts and entertainment Especially in america. Is that is that the case in south africa? Like so when here's a great question When you're teaching the history of south africa like when you're growing up and learning history in school How much of it is the fucked up history of south africa? Or is there like a real effort to go? Hey this part happened But look at all the amazing strides that we've made since then I think everybody knows a history of south africa Well, it's taught in school in history, you know in primary school in high school We know pre-1994. We know nasa mandela. We know what happened during apartheid what happened after apartheid So we know all about it. I mean we know how south africa is what it is today So do they teach black history in in schools here? I'm stuck on the fact that i'm pronouncing apartheid wrong this whole time me too That's just sound like a That comes after dinner The answer your question they teach they teach it's limited black. Okay. All right. Well, we're not learning about like We're not really learning about apartheid in america. We definitely learned it like black american history We know that black people invented peanut butter. That's about it. Okay. That is not true Okay, well in all schools black on black history mode. It's sort of like Like jord washington invented peanut butter, like jord washington jord washington Cover low. He's like With a jelly Hey They teach us limited things like they might teach us about it. He's about malibu king jr. Okay You're not gonna learn about malcom x depending where you are. You'll learn about frederick douglas for whatever reason dc teaches about frederick douglas a lot Okay, um I'm from charlie's alcalina. So I learned about denmark vc growing up because his his house was actually downtown charlton So I just think it's a matter of location, but overall I'm asking do they teach you about you know black african? No. Okay. Absolutely. No. All right. No, like nelson mandela We learned about nelson mandela through movies. Okay. I think that's what you mean like why is it I mean what other what other stories do people have? Yeah, the story is so fascinating Right, so we'll learn about it, but it's very rare. Well, tell us and you got to go to college I didn't go to college in african history. There's like yeah, but you have to choose to learn it Yeah, it's not compulsory But we look kind of it's it's it's an odd thing because I didn't realize it until when I was living in spain and my roommate was from Cameroon and I didn't realize that I looked at africa at 21 years old as a country Instead of 100 countries. Yeah, right. So like in that moment He was like, yeah, you have to realize and each country is full of different tribes because we didn't even carve up the map white people did so Each country has its own People and its own president and its own systems and it's own culture But even within the cut there's multiple cultures in air Let me tell you something. Yeah, for instance. I'm tuana from the tuana culture, right? Tuana, give me tuana From baboon, which means I'm more along and under the under the tuana culture we have kings So there's bafuken tribe Barolong tribe batipin tribe and and each of those tribes has a chief So let's talk about bafuken, right? Their chief is chief. They live in puken Right and they own all the platinum mines In baboon more along they live in baboon We have our own chief and then the zulu people also now the zulu's Zulu culture. Chaka Zulu was a zulu king. Yeah, and each so each I mean first person to do whiteface Okay I had to think about it like he didn't do whiteface Okay, anyway, yeah, so you are right each in each tribe. There's like can be seven other sub tribes, right? Yeah, and they have they'll have some sort of rights to that business like for the mines if you're just part of that Yes, so let's say in in the bafuken tribe. Yeah, uh the chief in In puken since all the kids who are born in bafuken in puken to university Really if you are born in that if you're a child from that tribe because they own all the platinum mines They're the richest tribe in africa. Yeah, and then you have monarchies like swaziland that has an active king Right, and then in swa in the zulu tribe as well in south african guazulu nadal in dubin has an active king as well So there's an active king that operates within a democratically elected government So so the do the people of that region tend to vote based on how the kingdom wants to vote Ah, so this is experience in that here right now. We have an active king in the white hat. That's what he thinks he is Yeah, he's about to get the drone Yeah, but I saw that this morning on But yeah, I think it's interesting is like we kind of gravitate and vacillate towards that We like to think that like oh, we're so democratic and so free thinking But it's not really it's like your parents kind of tell you what your politics are and then you kind of lean into those politics Which is similar to like a tribal system. Yes only there's like a cultural it I guess it's different in america because there's more than one tribe Think you know saying right right whereas you're born into that and that's the tribe. Yeah, but it's more than one So therefore it's always still type of a still of democracy, right? Yes, but I guess I guess here I guess you don't have a choice to jump ship with another tribe like you can do whatever you want If you marry into like a man from another tribe you become part of that tribe Now what if the man wants to become part of your tribe and he marries into you traditionally you can't a man is a man Now what if your tribe's a more poppin tribe though and I want to be like then you need to marry good then You know marry properly that is one thing that should change. I think well, I'm not married. 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Peace Because you're because your african accent and you're beautiful like a more white man attracted you than like me It's so funny like in in in europe In europe men love the european men love like african women like very dark african women um, yeah No one really says much, you know, but they do holla. They're very confident because people don't talk to each other here No, I'm gonna say what it is that god damn fur and all that goddamn jewelry and them expensive ass bags and that uh Design of phone case jotty or whatever that is They feel like you out of they leave they like look it's a random thursday might be intimidated at 11 a.m And she got on a full chinchilla And I actually have to go by the way What you got going on? You have a date. I just like to know what bonang is doing because I am really uh Impressed by the brand that you have built. I have a meeting now. I'm gonna use this because it's a bit hot in here Thank you. I actually really like this Is this you would you like to know why is it you? Yeah You do know why it's hot in here. I know bitch do what I do. Why is it hot in here? Because she got on a goddamn You broke the down the base. It's cold America is very cold. Um, I have a meeting at like now at midday with pencils of promise Do you know pencils of promise? It's an organization that builds schools in africa. Wow. Yeah, so uh, you know one of my like that We need it. It's no never choice. Okay. What do you mean? Do we like it? Because that seems like the go-to for like westerners. They're like, all right if I want to be a good person School well, we don't like it. But unfortunately Because it's gonna make this annoying sound because we do need it Yeah, fan the queen andrew Can't do it But okay, so is it is it something where you're like, okay, we need it So we'll accept it because I know that there's a lot of pride there as well. So there might be part of this pride Obviously, it's not a it's not a good thing. It's not a nice thing that you know, our continent needs all the help But that's just what it is. You know, we need schools. We need water. We need infrastructure We need resources and we need to get girls into schools So part of my mission to be here is to build schools and get my girls into school I agree with you. That's wild though because africa has wealth like you have people in africa with wealth So why can't it just be done? It's that's another conversation for another day It's just like the wealth is going to the wrong people and the people with the wealth Are not doing the right things for the girls and everybody else, you know, it is an interesting one Because charlemagne had brought this up on a past episode about the caribbean But I think it's true in the live parts of africa. They're like china is really making a big move into africa It has already They own a lot of infrastructure. They you know, because they give They give Money to a lot of african countries. So they end up owning a lot of things in in africa You own those mines you own the natural wealth. Yeah, how can a country ever get up? Exactly? Exactly? Wow, I would say it's fucked up. But that's kind of the american model. Yeah, it is It is say it it is. Yeah. Yeah, it is fucked up. So so then what do you do now the name is limited to american white people Basically, no europeans. I mean everybody is colonized, right? I mean, I mean the tribal warfare I imagine in africa has existed in that capacity, right? It's like There's a shift of space and a shift of resources and yeah Yeah, yeah parts of you know, I can't speak for all of africa because there's a war in you know, the parts of africa that I mean rwanda, there's you know, there's so many things that are happening. So I can only speak about south africa I think it's safer for me to do that. Yeah, but you know, the things in south africa that we need You know sanitation health hygiene and so many things roads. I mean Um 26 of south africans are unemployed. Do you know, you know, it's interesting It's like we have this view of south africa I think in america like south africa is the first world. It's just like new york. It's just like america It's just like uh, london or something like that Yeah, it's not different but I think because they're parts of it there are right? Yeah in a lot of ways I think it's almost overlooked in comparison other places because you think it's so developed Yeah, we're like, oh, no, it's the same trevor and trevor knows from there. He always tells him how to open it No, no, no, we do we do we do it's you know i'm saying So maybe it's almost to its detriment like we need more people to go We do we need a We need Okay, this is what south africa needs. We need bit of pr number one. I think african general I think the cost of pr man right there But that's the only good i've been there that's the pr the misconceptions are on african need to change Talk to this man right here. This guy can spin anything But no, it's not about spin like it's all I do is I find the best. Yeah, like bonon. Yeah Like what's not from south harrica bonon. No, but the best This is not the best of chicago. You know what the best of chicago is who chief fucking kief. All right, I take bonon That's the one who walked around with his pants hanging up on this but he is the man chief chief cheeks chief cheeks asking for a friend No, but you take somebody like bonon I meet bonon. I see how her country gravitates towards her which is insane because there's nobody that gets Like a mass majority of love, right? Yeah, but if you go look at her Yeah, go look at our youtube or the brekkers club interview go look at her instagram Unless she's filtering her comments. Yeah, people really love her crazy. They love her That's why i'm gonna give you a fan because i want you to put your fan on on your page Can nobis do what I do So this is the PR the PR just giving her a platform and that's why i'm here That's why I have you know these important meetings part of it is is is glitz and glamour But also you are given these platforms to kind of do something about it You know i'm a global citizen ambassador african ambassador, right? I have a bursary back home the bonon my type of bursary fund that actually um I guess bursary for it's a scholarship got you got you okay So I send 10 girls to university every year. We choose 10 girls and we pay for the Tuition to they do an complete an undergraduate at the end of the undergraduate degree They have to plow back into the community. So that's the plan. We've educated about 25 girls The aim is by 300 that we can say well 2030 sent 300 girls to school But now you know if i'm here I can get money we need you know, I want to build a school back home there are schools that need Desks and water and you know, it's small things like even a running toilet, right? Yeah, I would have to do that I would have I would have you open the school. Okay, cool. I'm glad you make me feel like my little scholarship funny Shit I just buy some backpacks. I need to buy. I need to find a nice guy. What do you find them? Yes, I would love to have children in your life. I'm canceran. I'm a mother at heart very nurturing very loving Just listen to you speak and how your addiction is and thank you hearing you are Do you know any nice guys to be a good mother? First of all First of all Good mother because the good dick gonna plan to see facts. I know what i'm saying Okay, it's fine We I will let you know after my meeting I'd really love as much help as possible How much money we talking about 50,000 us dollars 50,000 Sports you could be in school It's 50,000 dollars I just started I started a scholarship fund last month. Oprah only opened two She opened the Oprah Winfrey academy for girls, which is a massive on its own private institution Oh, okay. Yeah, it probably costs a lot more to build. Oh, no, it's a lot more. Yeah, it's a it's a whole you know school It's a dormitory. Yeah. No, it's a campus. No, it's it's in South Africa. It's absolutely amazing And she sends all the girls to college in America You never see in America. Yeah, and then they come back there and then they either work. Yeah, they come back home It depends, but you always yeah, I launched the scholarship fund last month at my mama's all my mother Yeah, South Carolina State University. It's a hbcu So how does it work? Well, I gave them a quarter million dollars and the scholarships go to Black women in South Carolina who major in English something in the mental health space are communications because my mother was a teacher She's a teacher. So her her major is English. I'm radio and tv. So that's communications and then I'm big on, you know People being mentally healthy Mental health is very important. So for school is if school is 50 grand in Africa What are we waiting on to open up bnc academy? Yeah, I agree. We can absolutely do it, you know, and we can name it after you No, bnc, you know I would say cancer at school, but that would be Doesn't sound very You got to make sure you know all about the sad house the what the side has I am a faithful black man. Stop that I love my wife Love With that ring on and the baby seat in the back I I believe that you don't I truly believe that you don't meet anybody For no reason. Yes. I met bonong in South Africa Randomly she said I was sitting outside. I wasn't sitting outside. No, I mean outside No, I made him at the cova citizen concert. He wasn't sitting outside. I didn't say that I said you were sitting outside like the way you were. Yes It was like this studio setup I just don't like to be cramped up in the studio. Plus I don't like it's too many white people in there I was sitting outside And so I was just sitting there plus everybody kept coming through there So it's like open pulled up and Tyler Perry pulled up the people were pulling up So I was just sitting outside and then I saw her and I was like is that Beyonce? Because that's how they were acting It's crazy for you back there. Yeah, oh, yeah Yeah, Trevor Noah. I mean Trevor Noah and I were hosting the global citizen concert And he introduced me on stage and it was like So he's just outside And you see not just not out in a bad space, but you felt the need to like bring him in or protect him Who's this hobo? DJ and we said the same thing like oh, you were some little show man Are you familiar with him? Yes, we know who shot a man is in South Africa. He's pretty popular. Yes. Yes. Yeah He's very popular here too, especially in my community. I heard he's very popular. Yeah How we know him is like well, we get the Wendy Williams show in South Africa and she talks a lot about him But also, uh, we we watch a lot of the breakfast show as well. Yeah. Yeah, because yeah, that's just I came like this You think I could pass a wedding So Is it crazy to go to another continent and then be embraced by people in a in a place where your show doesn't even Exist on radio. It actually does exist on radio. No, we would watch it on it on We learned I mean that's that like You know when I would when I would go on tour internationally and I had people come out they big Oh, yeah, I found you guys, you know from YouTube You know and it's like but seeing that seeing that in another country And being a celebrity in another country was that was that weird for you was that it's just humbling It's very humbling and it lets you know Just just to power your platform and it makes you not want to misuse your platform And anyways you perform because you're not just affecting people where you're from You're affecting people all across the world and you might be a representation For you know, where you're from for people all across the world And you know what I find as a with American artists. It's like sort of uh It's like a wow They recognize me in South Africa because I was watching the Travis Scott documentary Netflix Travis Scott the drummer Kylie Jenner's baby daddy way Yes He had a piece in in his documentary Right. Oh, and he was saying exactly what she was saying that it you it's like a South Africa so far, right? Yeah, right? And it's just like you can't you don't expect your Work or your whatever you do to reach that part of and I find it very humbling for Americans Especially with black Americans when they come to South Africa. It's like, oh, they know who I am But we actually really do Everyone yeah, you were walking around me my wife and daughter with the noses Mandela square mom and I was like what the fuck is happening. Yeah, shut it down I shut it down, but it was like whoa. Yeah, we know. Yeah. Is it we know him We know everyone is it odd for is it odd for like For you as a South African to experience this kind of like new embracing of African roots Yes, you mean in America in America because in America when we were growing up I don't know that there was the same like love or affection or interest in the African roots And now it seems like it's it's really part of like mainstream black culture Whereas it's like I want to see where 23 and me I want to see where I'm from Absolutely what I am because back to where you were saying unfortunately It's because of Hollywood black panther the lion king Beyonce going to Africa putting The soundtrack together for the lion king and using African artists. That's where the wave is coming from I'm older than all of y'all. Yeah It's always been I'm sure flame remembers this the brothers with the african medallions on you know what I'm saying movies like shaka zulu always like it's always been a back to africa aesthetic about our community Even if you watch a movie like belly now the t-bots when t-bots doing that terrible acting and she was like africa That's far. You know now when I was like I'm gonna go move back to Africa. That's far Like like it's always been a a thing about africa, but black panther Definitely, I think put it up there. Oh, absolutely put it way up there It really did because it made for the first time african culture Sheiks and cool. Yes and refined and rich and powerful Everything we are we have vibranium, but it's just like another version of it. You know All those things the fashion the people the the jewelry the The pulse, you know the heartbeat the soul we are that but I'm grateful that it's it's it's you know Finding its way into mainstream America. I think americans Love fresh things, you know fresh content. They're always looking for different ways to inspire. They work and I think africa is untapped What is vibranium? What is the vibranium in africa? Well, we're the mind platinum minds We have lots of diamonds in south africa rich in oil in nigeria Like but you were saying, you know, the money goes to the wrong people But africa is very very rich in with the diamond mines. Is that true that they have the key? It's fine. I mean if they if they catch you stealing they cut off your hand or something Not cut off your hand, but you have to register any diamond or any piece of Metal, what if you get caught? Eric, you go to jail Oh, at least you go to jail. You lose a limb. What about president obama him his kenyan roots. Did that have anything? Yes, we love him. He's come to south africa. Yeah Oh, we love we love them michelle has come to south africa many many times To have talks. She was there a couple of months ago. Actually, it was a it was a big moment for africans You know, uh, the baraco bubble boom. I think for any black person It resonated with a lot of us. There was something very and he was there when nelson madela passed away He was there when our mama, uh, we me passed away. I believe I think he came back So he is a big love of south africa too. He loves south africa When when you see when you see success stories in america Of black people Is it Is it something that like you're used to by now or is it something that's expected when you see somebody come from From nothing and then become a millionaire It's so very very inspiring. Very inspiring. That's why trevin. Noah is like the national treasure, right? Charlize theron is our national treasure because our country is so new, right? It's It's impossible to think there are so many there's so many under South african stories, but it is a And what about black american stories like when you see a guy, you know, even like charlemagne Or you see a guy like jz or like diddy like guys who maybe haven't come from a lot and then they they come to hit this like Absolutely, is that inspirational? Absolutely, I think you know the black people root for black people Right. Yeah, and we there's something about when a black person wins is like, yeah, you know burner boys mom said something very important at the um Was it the bt awards when he she accepted? He said I want every black person to know that before there anything they are african Then that was great. There's a alex alex does all the video production for the show. He said something very He he was talking about We were talking about like what it's like being black And like we were talking about I think it was maybe the use of the n word or something like that and like Why maybe people in other countries that are black can still use it? Even though they haven't experienced like the american oppression where it was derived from and then he goes, uh The black experience globally is very similar Meaning being a black person in germany is not that different than being the black person in america, etc So hearing you go Like you are black first And in this like you want to see other black people win it kind of put that in perspective for me And it's just cool to see you root for someone in another country because you feel like you understand what they might have gone through to get there Yeah, yeah, and we use them for you know as a point of reference For many many many many things. I mean america is well not even america. Just black americans in general You come here the best of the best and if you can be the best of the best with amongst the best of the best It's like are you kidding me? Yeah, you have to celebrate and that dispels a lot of false Stereotypes and false narratives right because for so long I didn't even know I thought africans didn't refer to themselves as black But I hear your whole generation refer to yourself as a black person, which is yeah refreshing to me Black and every act like you didn't know what that was you go to the movies. You know, they always kill the black person first stop Bonon has to go because he has a meeting And I don't want Bonon to be late The same things like Jesus Christ the black people from african always late to african time To go from cp time to african time Okay, but now give me your instagrams and twitters and all that stuff at bonang underscore m on twitter and on instagram and on facebook And bonangmeteba.com and house of bng.com flame. 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