 Okay, so now today's lecture. We're going to look at some one example of a Component otherwise competent scientist Established scientist man who has patents in lasers In fact, I think enough so that he was able to retire on them to some extent But also has his foot in the paranormal camp He was the one of the two scientists studying or a gallery at the Stanford Research Institute when I went down there and He has done a lot of other things in the ESP real and this is his he thinks it may be his last book But it's magnum opus and just came out about a year ago And it's called the reality. This is the cover of his book the reality of ESP a Physicist's proof of this of psychic abilities and he noticed that on the top cover here that Deepak Chopra endorses it provides convincing evidence. I have never seen a paranormal book that I can remember in the last 15 years of where Deepak Chopra hasn't endorsed He endorses everything that comes out. I don't believe he can be all that but if he does he's amazing person anyway This is the book now the book is very interesting from point of view of this course as well is because This is a book about Miracles about ESP and proof and Through the entire book Which is a fairly lengthy book There's not a single reference or even hint That there are skeptics of this or does that any of this stuff has ever been questioned Not a single one Unbelievable So this is amazing yourself. You wouldn't know that there is anyone is ever skeptical about this that everyone believes this stuff Must think the same evidence he has in fact, he says that right at the beginning of the book he says I I Know that anyone who reads Has experienced as I've had or reads this book will obviously come to the same conclusion that Which I'm undoubtedly we've proved this and there's no hint that anyone has a question. I mentioned anything I am the only skeptic of all the people that are in the whole world has mentioned in the book at all And not by him the guy who liked the forward has my name there But not as a skeptic, but as someone who even Ray Hyman said that this looked pretty good to him He couldn't explain it away or something like that and some other context type of quote. Otherwise not a single skeptic Is mentioned in his book not a hint that anything is even Suspect even far from the dollars presented as real proof talking to the dead Healing by prayer from a distance All of that is in this book. It's quite amazing Because at least in the evening is people's books He was realized that there were people who questioned what he did and There was all his ESP work. He was one that brought you remote viewing. How do you know about remote viewing here? if you go on the web, there are a lot of companies now selling for Nice, you've got enough money. You can go take courses and become remote for yourself What's remote viewing? You can sit or lie down wherever you happen to be and and Project yourself to any of us else in the world see what's going on That's 100% reliable because they they charge you an awful lot of money. You must be reliable, right and someone so Let's get into this idea of proof to me most serious mistake that Mr.. Targ makes is that he completely confuses strength of belief with Strength of proof and It too actually are opposite. This is what I have a scientific method. Why have psychology understands it Because the very same things that make you Believe something are unfortunately The very same thing. I mean that strict you into believing something almost usually quite Advariance with what actually so? And it's well known. This is what why we have the scientific method That's why a lot of people don't like to think about the scientific method because it can be very disheartening So I want to get into some of the things that going on in this book First of all, he doesn't acknowledge that there is That's important to have sometimes some there is scientific evidence, but he calls indeed almost With a little bit hint of disdain what's called he calls a statistical proof Our empirical proof What's called scientific proof? He claims he there is stuff for that But most of his emphasis is what he calls another kind of proof which he thinks is just good And by the way, I know some other clever power psychologists, especially Jessica utz a statistician. She's a good statistician, but she and I have debated We were our we were the movement committee for the CIA to evaluate their whole program We'll view in the 20-year program that the government was was our government was paying a lot of money for Running along with the research and we were asked to evaluate at the end of 20 years and she and I she was Picked because she is a parapsychologist well being a statistician and a good one and I Started politically balanced and well-known skeptic and so we both were team to evaluate the 20 years of Research that came out of that program the program consisted of three parts there was the Laboratory type research on on remote viewing which was done at Stanford Research Institute originally and Targ and put off his colleague at that time. We're the people who started remote viewing experiments and Then there was the applied part of the program the government actually had At any one time something from nine to ten maybe more people's mostly psychics Who serve as remote viewing in an applied field? They were the military could call upon them the CIA could call upon them and the Drug Enforcement Agency could use them when they wanted to get some Evidence that they couldn't get in the other way they could go to and ask for one to remove viewers that were stationed they were all stationed at Fort Mead to Lie down and Project themselves to what the Soviet Union Plant that they want to know what's going on in there or this and that so so this is what was going on over a period of Years of that 20-year period and the third thing part of the program was the information that our government had accumulated on what the Soviets were doing in this area and It was we were told this was a I was part of a committee Before at that time and before that I was on another committee and we were told there's something that there was something called the side gap That the big gap was we were 25 years behind the Russians in applying parapsychology to military and Intelligence gathering endeavors well Put a tarred Emphasizes his evidence there that the remote reviewing experiments by the way remote viewing experiments they were doing were done that like this You would take a psychic or remote viewer possible Someone who presumably has this power then they found that they eventually conclude everyone has this power They could take it just ordinary people but first they try to take people who suppose to well-known psychics or leave their psychic and This person would be cooped up in a room at Stanford Research Institute with one of the investigators usually talk this target is legally blind so he couldn't travel out With with the other type with the team that they want to send out so he would stay back be the interviewer of the remote so tarred and these remote viewer was were stationed in a Room isolated room While a another team of Investigators the target team would go out to a chosen target. There were some like 30 inch targets within the driving distance of Sam of Stanford Research Institute in the Bay Area and The team would go everything supposedly double-blind so the team on each trial the team would go to This administrator at Stanford Research Institute, and he would when we choose one of the Envelopes which had the target listed in it One of those envelopes and give it to the target team they would then open it up and drive off to that target and Given that each target was within a 15 or 20 minute driving distance within about 20 minutes 25 minutes the People in that the psychic and the and the reviewer and Tarred and back in SRI not knowing where these people are going Would he would encourage the remote viewer to? Free associate see what he thinks is the target teams looking at it and describe the target You know what's going on there and so on and write out things make drawings And now the team would come back and it was very important To give feedback immediately so now after the trial is done the team would come back and they would take the remote viewer and Targ and all of them will go to the target and they'd match. They say how well you've done You know and they'd find wonderful matches This is subject but they knew this was just subjective part So they also had the scientific part the double-blind part they would at the end of a number of trials like this Sometimes seven or nine different trials. They would then take the written protocols by the remote viewer and Supposedly randomize them and give them to a judge and along with the targets the judge would go to each target and rank order the Protocols which ones he thought was closest to this target which one you know rank border and Supposedly the very first one they did for example out of nine targets seven of them the judge Hit right on the first right on so They did their statistics. They reported this in the literature and with odds of billions to one Fantastic odds of this being chance and they decided that they had established this remote viewing pretty pretty decisively well, what happened was a By ways a book I want to recommend to you it's called the psychology of the psychic It's two versions one was the first edition by David Marks and Richard Cayman I'm forced to Richard Cayman died in between the two additions So the second edition came out I Think around 2000 It's called the psychology of the psychic is the second edition by Richard Cayman I mean the David Marks. He now is a soul author But at least three chapters of that book deal with these remote viewing experiments that I just described to you They heard about the remote viewing experiments, and they got very interested intrigued by it, and they were not necessarily skeptical at this point so they Tried to reproduce these experiences as close as they could from what they read And at first they were getting one of the results to they were when they go to the target after each trial They could see all these matches And they could see that this target that the guy just described is just right just fits they could find all these fitting things But when they gave it to the judges the judge was random Absolutely, man. They repeat this a few more times, and they doing everything I thought was exactly like what hard was doing and they were just getting just chance results They said, what are we doing wrong? What are we doing wrong? and finally decided maybe they're doing something wrong and David Marks came to you and I say fact even I got him and a little bit of a Temporary position at University of Oregon. He was at the University of Otago in New Zealand And but he came for a year and I had him as a colleague at the University of Oregon And all the time is the University Oregon. He was calling up Russell Tard at Sanford Research Institute said I'd like to see your Actual protocols what you sent to the judges and and how you did so yeah, and they refused to give it to him They said we only give it to legitimate Professionals it's a little legitimate professionals. In fact, we're the only people we know to try to reproduce your stuff and They said they so use all kinds of excuses Finally, they never did give them there, but finally one of the judges their major judge Gave him the protocols that he had been given and how he went about doing and they were surprised to find that when they looked at the protocols there was things in these protocols that were cues clues that could easily give it away because in one of the protocols Target saying to right price who's what their major remote viewing saying How does this seem like compared to the Mariner where you went yesterday? Well now we know that the Mariner is not This target couldn't be this target. So that's a clue when you judge is reading things. He does not to put this For the Mariner target because it's already been mentioned that they've already been to the Mariner target They found other things in dealing with the weather because several trials were done in the same day and Then this thing about well, you know, the weather's changed over the day, you know, since since we began these series today, you know With that alone He's in New Zealand now Back in New Zealand. He's got these transcripts. He doesn't have to go to the target. He gives his transcripts To local judges and says no just knowing from these what this target thing says How would you match it up against these and it's the list of the targets without having seen what the targets are, but it's the Mariner and is the Power out of train station and the Hoover Tower. These are some of these targets And if the people in New Zealand didn't know what these places were do using these transcripts were able to almost a hundred percent natural So they took out those clues and now now it's our chance, okay And so they talked to they wrote this up and they and target very upset And so talk hired another parapsychologist known to talk. So it's interesting. It is target this talk Charlie Tartt Hired him to go over their transcripts and read and edit them all the possible cues in it and then we did it again And it still came out significant Again after much effort David Marks got hold of the new transcripts the edited ones I found this guy didn't edit out all the clues What was going on here? He left all the clues in he had it out to our other stuff and left the clues in here That's just great. So the book called the psychology of psychic there's three chapters on these remote viewing experiments and How they kept messing it up in the last chapter in the revised edition Chapter is called this. Let me show you how they did it Psychologists I think this the sloppiness continues Well, by the way, by this time even some parapsychologists most of the parapsychology Deciding that these remote viewing experiments which Tartt says, you know Anyone can can be succeed at it and do it She's very yellow right Everyone can see that and everyone has the power to do it And their experiments and he says them again is it's the most compelling evidence they have them from the scientific point of view Not mentioning all this tearing apart and then not mentioning my critique I did some also found what I call the fatal flaw in their experiments and so other people attacked them as well and That's mentioned at all here. So but if you read it's a very interesting book to read It's a whole the psychology of the psychic they also Get into the qualitative reasons why these people could have been believing that these guys when something they call it subjective validation We're gonna talk about when we get in the next few trials We get as soon we going to talk about The psychic reading I'm gonna tell you about this by that works and psychology Well, the psychic reading works because two things one's called the fallacy of personal validation as relying on people themselves To judge whether the reading is true That turns out to be the worst thing you can do to validate something And the reason for that is What's called subjective validation? Phenomenal subjective validation is that when you see a paragraph and this shades of the Suicide notes and stuff like that as well But when you see a paragraph that you think was meant to be a description of you Something like that you read it you see in it the matches. You don't see the mismatches That's the main thing they found they call it the odd match phenomenon and so that in any of these Subjective things you've seen you think you see what is an impossible thing a miracle The parapsychologist yes, it got she calls it a prima fascia Is that the how do you pronounce that prima fascia evidence on the face of it? It's so so real That you can't deny you don't need statistics or experiments and do it and This is how most of this book is he does use it to remove viewing He also has the BEM experiments, you know the BEM experiments with the that made a big splash about two years ago in maybe a big splash because that of them is a Well-known Social psychologists who's famous for having made some very important contributions of social psychology Very interesting fellow a good mentalist a good magician But also the parapsychologist in the last later years he became a supporter of parapsychology and When he was interviewed in newspapers, and I think in New York Times even how come a guide of you with your prestige It's now willing to come out and say you're for parapsychology your supporter of parapsychology His answer was I have tenure That was a typical that this typical of him Anyways, he came out two years ago with a article that was published first time they ever did it In the journal of personality and social psychology, that's a very prestigious journal in social psychology the most prestigious one there is and Rather conservative ordinarily, but here they published an article by him got all kinds of publicity called feeling the future and in this article it was ten experiments that Ben had done over the last eight years in which he showed that Undergraduates at Cornell University could predict the future correctly Experiments he says no doubts about it, and it's the odds of millions to one against and so on and it got published In what the New York Times and other people journals played up because here is something where this is a guy who is Very prestigious guy in a prestigious magazine publishing something never they knew never before published a parapsychological article Here they're publishing one wrong one now with ten experiments nine experiments in it and and It's getting all kinds of Publicity flack and they quote a lot of people saying that you know On the face of it. We can't fault the experiments. Everything's done right. It's all like that. In fact, one of my students from the students who took statistics from me y'all came at Brown University He was quoted saying that I can't find any fault in either. I don't believe it I don't find any fault in experiments and I'm trying to figure out a way of Fronking him in retrospect for that course because there are so many mistakes in that paper. It's unbelievable Yet somehow for editors for four referees and two editors missed several I got 96 Obvious mistakes that should not have been there even if they wanted to buy they did they obviously wanted to publish because he's such a Procedure sky they wanted to give him a buy. They're gonna publish anything he sends them anyway But they should at least for his sake cleaned it up and Fixed up all the errors are made made them account for us so I was a quote on the first page of the New York Times he interviewed me about it and Miss quoted of course, I mean they wanted to make a story different. I said this is all unbelievable and it's it's it's crazy I was saying was crazy was that the Editors and the referees because I have referees papers on my life. I've been refereeing every major drill I never saw such poor referee You don't that's I even want to publish let it be published You don't let it go in with all miss all crazy mistakes and it's stupid mistakes And so I said that was crazy. So they they took me the quote look like I was saying that that that them is crazy I wasn't saying that at all about them. I was saying it was crazy where they did the refereeing and Later explained that to them that I wasn't criticizing him I although I have even more criticism of him than I have of the editors, but I was at that point I was criticizing the editors anyway He puts that it's another one of the convincing scientific experiments the damn one By the way since then reason you don't hear about anymore is because it's now been replicated several times failed replications Good ones and at first the journal of personality and social psychology refused to publish some of the replications Weissman was with and another person Was the first to do a serious replication template replication founded didn't they couldn't replicate them's results, but the Journal refused to publish that we don't publish replications Now if you think about it and other scientific journals have that same tendency You're not hearing about a lot of what so a lot of major studies. They get a lot of publicity You don't hear about the fact that they no longer They have been failed to be replicated because a lot of journalists don't like to publish replications Well, there's a lot of pressure on them and he and finally the journal of personality and social psychology Did a year later after with they did publish a major replication attempt to replicate it didn't that failed, okay? So as far as we know that has been a failure. Well, anyways, that's another one He gives us is a success story here of the scientific stuff But mostly is he's giving as he says what should make you believe he's giving you stuff That's not scientific. It's one one of the kind what he calls miracles Case histories or something that one example for example is Helen Duncan she was a medium when they a Materialization spirit medium during World War two and a little before World War two in England. She's a very famous Notorious that was a better word notorious spirit because even the National Association of Spiritualists in London They kicked her out She was an embarrassment because she specialized in materializing you go to a science with her and in the middle of the science That you're dead one. You're your one year person you're trying to reach would physically come out Come come before you and several times people in the audience Watching this it would reach up and grab that the materialized Person and to the sheet often they were in the sheet where and it turned out to be her Helen Duncan several times. She's the most exposed medium in the world So during World War two she was doing medium too She was bringing back relatives of dead soldiers and stuff like that. I mean dead soldiers for the relatives and early in World War two the British before we got into it the British had only three battleships, I think they're very low on battleships especially and and One of the battleships was sunk very early on by a submarine But as far as they could tell the submarine had struck Sent to torpedoes and then disappeared when it went away as far as I knew this They didn't they believed that the Germans did not know that their Battleship had been sunk and they drove down to only two now And so they did notify all the families of all the souls Sails and people on that battleship that Drowned as a result everyone got killed on that on that ship and they lost the battleship They notified the families, but they asked the family said don't talk about it because we Do not want the Germans to know that they sunk our battleship well soon after that when apparently no new couldn't couldn't couldn't because they the British Authorities had asked the families all but tell families that there were hundreds of people on that sailors on a ship You know personnel make maybe seven hundred their families all knew about the ship having sunk obviously because they had lost their family member and So there was a seance that was conducted by Helen Duncan in which he materialized the Sailor of one of the sails that drowned on that ship and she named the ship and sailors there and it supposedly the British Admiralty and so on got very upset because this secret came out and she was the source of it. This is the way Targ tells the story and So they used that she was the last person by the way the actors members drawn there was an act past many many years earlier witchcraft act and Under the witchcraft act the British government did jail Helen Duncan for the rest of the war. She was in jail she's last one ever jailed under that witchcraft act and He says this because they didn't want her out there is exposing any more secrets, you know Because they believe well, I looked it up. I look up a story everything else the British government did jail her She was jailed and she's the last one ever jailed on that act. They finally withdrew it after the war But they jailed her because they felt that she was it was cruel or fear. She was going around materializing playing on upon dead the people who will look no victims in the war everyone in the war, you know losing soldiers like bad you know that that weren't beginning of the war and So they thought that was cruelty so they met but there's no mention at all Newspapers I could dig up a British newspaper at the time and so on of her being Jail because they thought she could get some more secret information and reveal it and then when you go back and look at the Details of how she came across us in the thing. Well this relative knows about She wants to get find her contact her dead Son who was on that ship? So she had access to that information. So there's no big deal there Anyways, he doesn't tell you all that. It's always leaving out. He's always telling stories like that His he turns out he admits he was a theosophist during his as a young youngster at Columbia And then later on I was like she was a theosophist and he believes in Adam Blavatsky was a founder of theosophy And he says she was the greatest psychic of all time. He puts her up as one One of his novel stories. Well, I have the Monograph I think it was about 19 early 1900s that was put out by the British Society of Psychical Research During the heyday of theosophy Helen Blavatsky and her associates. They went to India and they built a Special house there and they try to build up the Indian ideas of mixing up with science several that she had a house there and people who come to their house there and Talked to the Mahatma say she called me with people in others playing in the spirit world and The Mahatmas was sending them written messages In envelopes and they would get it. Well, they sent the Richard Hodgson Who was one of their? Investigators they sent him to India to investigate man Blavatsky and he Came back with a report which I have I have a copy of it because I was at the hundredth anniversary of the Society family of the Society of Psychological Research and They were giving away. They were selling some extra copies of early editions of their journal I found one cop one whole issue of the journal which is Well, maybe two to 300 pages on just that report by Hodgson on his investigation of madam Blavatsky Complete fraud everything she did was a fraud It doesn't mention I even if you wanted to fight it We should mention that there are some people think that Blavatsky was an absolute fraud and there's evidence they had for it and these were parapsychologists You weren't your every day skeptic even a parapsychologist and Helen Duncan. It wasn't Skeptics who who downed her it was fellow psychic as persons. They thought she was so immoral that they didn't want to make They kicked her out of the out of the spiritualist association For being incompetent and being immoral. Okay, so he got lots of stories like that I'm gonna just tell you one story now and it gets into his go back to remote viewing and fortunately, I just by luck happen to have a You might want to call it a smoking gun type of thing His very first and most prominent psychic that he investigated had working with many Price Pat price and there are three stories that he has in his book about Pat Prime which are again of these kinds of stories Which he says you don't need statistics or anything these are things that should convince you Well, one story is this one. One is a series with Pat Price did a remote viewing where they come out very highly By the way, that's the series where all the cues were found and so I already mentioned to you The other two were the Patty Hearst when she was kidnapped and stuff like that Supposedly the Berkeley police asked Stanford research People see if they can bring your psychic Pat Price up there to help out Fine, so they brought Pat Price up there and what Lee tells the story here is that they walked into the police station and They brought out a big mug file of mug shots of people and Pat Price flips room by the way Pat Price used to be a police commissioner one time too. So anyway, he flips through those things and He come across one thing the guy named the freeze actually Who turned out to be head of the liberate liberate a simianese Sibianese Liberation Army? Which was the thing that kidnapped the group to kid at Patty Hearst and he was a leader of it by the way, Sibianese Libonation Liberation Army was a black or anything, but only black person in it was the freeze y'all even else was white upper-middle-class people It was just an offshoot boot, but they can't kid at Patty Hearst and then you know the very fascinating story But anyways, supposedly he puts finger on his guy and said that's how you want to something like that freeze Well turned out that two months earlier To that thing the freeze had already been caught for something else And they had a good handle on them and they were already suspecting them. It's pretty clear that they did and so the fact that Pricely come in and put his finger on that You don't get you don't know what was going on here. What was being said and stuff like that But anyway, so that's another story and the third story is this And this is one of the things they meant. Well, this is most remarkable It's Pat Price who says it's really one of the things that should convince everyone. Can we see this? Okay? This is from his book but This is a gantry That this is a drawing of the best you could tell from a CIA drawing from overflights of a Insenie plant in the Soviet Union There was a thing that the government and the CIA are very interested. What's going on there? Something was going on. They didn't know what's going on. They suspect it's something very important They understood during the Cold War So 1974 to test Pat Price Targ Was given the coordinates by someone from CIA of something they said they were interested in and asked if They get Pat Price to remove you from the coordinates, what was going on at that plant and According to This is what this thing that that how he Talks about that diagram here. He says above left is Pat Price's July 1974 drawing of the psychic impression of a gantry crane. That's this thing over here At the secret Soviet R&D site at semi-pollack Polant power Thanks, I don't sure how to pronounce that Sharing remarkable similarity to the actual crane on the right as Emerged from the CIA tracing of a satellite photograph taken in may 1974 No, for example that both cranes have eight wheels Okay Okay, so this is the big thing Right. He they give me he doesn't know what where the site is what he's just given the coordinates And he comes up with this drawing What do you think? Well, that's a good question Supposedly didn't know But he didn't know the secret and it was supposed to be something to do with the Soviet Union and you know You get into these things very interesting, but it's as if what he tells the stories as if okay We sit down and get the coordinates and being he comes up with this drawing. Okay, the gantry look how it looks very close to it Now I do remember those days and those time I remember that we were concerned about Soviets getting ahead of us in rockets and Getting to space and all that kind of stuff and My guess would be and this is my guess that's time that Knowing that that this is you know that the CIA and the Military are interested in this these coordinates that have something to do with the Soviet Union. We're in big Cold War at the time and That there's always things going on building rockets and so we actually have these hefty cranes there And so a crane would not be that unusual. I Did another thing as well. I Went and looked up if you you can do it yourself I don't know how it is not today, but I went looked up green on the Google images Put the entry crane down Everything looks to me like right like like that or that you know that would the same many have eight wheels So I'm not sure how big a deal that should be by itself. Okay, because that's not the only things Well, he told me a few other things But this day just sat down had one session with him and it was all probably our coordinator and this suppose he convinced the CIA and the government to go along give me give a contract to To the staff research institute to begin doing their research or remote viewing which they did for 20 years actually and I was called in at at the end of the 20 years. I've already mentioned this with Jessica out We were the team to Evaluate the 20 years of research. So when I saw this in the book, he brought this up again. I When looked at the first report 1974 is the first report from Stanford Research Institute of the research on remote viewing At least it's also time they worked with a regatta there and I have something to say about that as well, but I Think I have yeah, okay I found attached. I hadn't noticed before I went to my body funds by But the CIA did was send me and Jessica at three big cards. They declassified everything not a good job By the way, I see they they redact things here, but they forget to do it some other place So I always can tell what they're talking about who they're talking about So so whoever does redacting these buttons these documents. They must gonna be very tired or something because they Did it overnight. Anyways, I have three cards like this that would deliver to me the size like this To my house and I have them so my store room there with documents all dealing with the 20 years of research and everything It was that generated during that 20 years With the program at the remote viewing and our government is here Well attached to this document was this hand-type thing. I'm just going to give you the I just bought the executive summary for you The family the government hired an independent Investigator from another national laboratory an expert to evaluate this probe this remote viewing protocol see how accurate was and How close it would be to how useful would be for the CIA purposes and military purposes? So let me show you give you his executive summary This is as it was attached to the thing. It's a copy Obviously it's redacted Says some oh, this is a 30 page report. This is his executive summary of the report whether this Particular person is based from one national laboratories. He's an expert the remote viewing experiment and Get that title approved to be unsuccessful That's right. It means but that's his first step sentence in his executive summary This conclusion was reached only after a careful review of the tape recordings tape transcripts and sketches that were generated during the four-day experiment You only hear about the first day from tarred four days is what hot okay? And think learn controlled over that time who we talked with during that time He was able to go home and talk with people freely other people from the government So who knows what was going on? That's what it's controlled there in the first day session S1 that's Patrick Price and later if you get redacted out Accurately described the location and type of target that information had been given to him by the experimenters But filled on the layout and types of buildings Saw gantry crane for heavy lifting Tended to spend too much time on specifics only to say I'll come back to that But seldom did and successfully evaded drawing a perimeter of the area even though he was asked to do this twice Therefore nothing positive to validate remote viewing resulted from the first-day session By the way, you don't hear about the first-day session from target. We know there's more than that Price was contacted by phone that evening by one of the experimenters and Was told to concentrate on the crane and its relationship to the dominant three-story building That's building one that he hadn't seen during the days of session He was also told that they wanted the drawing of the permit defense On the second day S1 supplied the most positive evidence yet for the remote viewing experiment with a sketch of the rail mounted gantry crane It seems inconceivable to imagine how he could have drawn such a likeness to the actual crane it Unless he actually saw it through remote viewing or he was informed of what to draw by someone or what you will That site Just one Little bit more than one more page left The second possibility is mentioned only because the experiment was not controlled to discount the possibility that You could talk to other people Price commented that he was seeing I'm sorry. Oh, thank you. I'm not even look I should look at that Let's see price comment that he was seeing a lot of things this the second day that he hadn't seen the previous day In fact, he mentions seeing several then then type landmark type objects that simply did not exist One explanation of this discussion described. He could be that if he mentioned enough specific objects He would surely hit on one object that was actually present This could explain the inconsistency between his most positive evidence of the experiment a sketch of the rail mounted gantry crane and The large number of objects he sees that in reality are simply not present this discrepancy between what Price sees and what is really there certainly would make it difficult for the eventual user of his remote viewing data Since he would not know how to differentiate the fact from the fiction at this stage of the experiment The data is inconclusive to validate prices capability of remote viewing It was on the same vein. I won't read any more but What you learn from this is important is that You don't hear about this but one is he obviously Todd at some point was in possession of this report because it was to a final report that he put in so this Appended to it. So you wouldn't know that at least you should mention that there was the least Important person in the government that the government hired to evaluate this thing and came up with complete opposite conclusion from him Is that Oh After I made my report or my report was on a whole whole program as 20 year program as such That was done. This book this thing he's writing now. This book is well after Oh, no, that was before I was before that was early. I was that was 1974. Now this this is their first report they have to give reports And they gave me in front of by the government at that time CIA and they have to give their annual reports and this was the first report 1974 was their first report and attend attached to their for their report was this Statement by the special independent investigator You would think he would least mention at me doesn't mention it was four days and that nothing worked out And it was only with the only only thing that seemed to be right was the gantry and I'm not that I'm not impressed with that but Seems like that he doesn't mention What's that Well, you know, there are two interesting reactions I was on Larry King live show at that time there was a And people were saying You know the government wasted seven million dollars of our taxpayers money military But first of all the seven million dollars comes from me. I was the one responsible saying that I checked with them May Ed May who was who was the successor to target put off and still running remote viewing experiments First day that's where I know he's another place called SAIC and maybe problems in the clothes now. I checked with him and Said how much total money did you get? He said well? I don't know but over a certain period of time there when we do these experiments. It was seven million dollars So I mentioned that hadn't mentioned on the very King live show for some reason came up and ever since then That's been the fixed mark. This is the way things get into the public Aye, it's amazing how things get fixed that way. So every time I hear about the Hear about this remote viewing you get two views one that the government wasted seven million dollars of taxpayers money on The other view is that this must be very important because the government spent seven million dollars on it Must be something to it. Whatever the government do that. I Checked I did a calculation at that time I found that one seven million dollars was like one-tenth of a percent of the military budget for For for for only a year, you know, so it was for terms of our military budget. It's significant really But but people make big deal two big deals They still I still hear about it and it wins because just like that statement about that we only use two percent of our brain and Very by the state and other people have been checking that out and it goes way back to know it That's crazy Who knows what we use two percent of our brains always working all the time and that two percent is just nonsense and Another thing like that, but these things get fixed. I was once Got a call as I usually do some people that want questions But someone called me at the University and said from New York Times and said You know, we have this every week. We have the science times and people can write in and ask questions And we try to give them answers get code experts and someone wrote in about deja vu So we want to know what you have to say about this. I was well, I don't have anything to say about deja vu I'm not an expert on that. That's not my field and I told them about Good psychologists to go to was an expert and I referred to them and you know This report is that can be lazy like anyone else and cognitive misers. So he said yeah, but what would you tell your students? Student ask you. I saw the student asked me. This is why I would say Well, next thing I know it didn't go to anyone else that they quoted me This is what professor. I'm gonna say about deja vu and even today. I still see I'm the expert on deja vu And this is what I had to say about it. I know nothing about deja vu. I know what the textbooks say that's about it and You can fix that I become an expert. Yes, I get 10 more minutes. Good Okay, so what to make of this well one thing is This brings up the issue of what we call vividness Vividness Yeah vividness. It's a another thing that the same psychologist who did the experiment on belief perseverance About the same time they also did experiments on vividness. The idea of vividness is that Let me give you an example. Let's say that you want to buy a new car And you just might you say go to consumers reports You look at their automobile issue you look at the ratings of the automobiles and you decide you're going to get this Ford Explorer Or something like that, okay, because it fits all your needs the price is right and all the ratings are just right, okay And just before you're going to go to buy it for the floor as some friend says, oh, don't you only get a Ford Explorer? I have a friend who got it and it was a lemon At this point that stands at Ford Explorer Okay, that's what this says what knows what this is going on one one point Because it's vivid it's a story. It's a personal story overrides hundreds of statistics and This is the idea of vividness that they find many situations where so a story like like this crane thing like that I Overrides completely the all the statistical stuff all the other stuff you have about it, you know stuff like that So the idea of vividness is that a story can outweigh Accumulation statistical not an information And so we will We now have a background of why it's necessary to have some way of overcoming all these pitfalls that we've talked about and So the next lecture we're going to begin with the framework Which I hope will help you Think in such a way that you won't be as tempted As your mind wants to be tempted and we untempt you