 It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing, intelligent, the lady that you don't need no introduction. She here with me, been 20 years, right at, man. Official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? Nothing, nothing, my dad. Man, hey, we got a special guest in here today, y'all. This woman right here, she, if you're trying to get something done, you got to talk to her, man. This woman here is special to the city. Especially in Detown. Special, period. Period. On God. Period, okay. So just understand, man, OG Chris is in the building, man. What's going on? Hey, what's up, Boss Talk, man? Boss Talk 101. I appreciate y'all 100. Boss Talk 101. I appreciate y'all for having me today. Check it, man. Like y'all are really special though. Y'all don't know how special y'all really are in the city. You know what I'm saying? To really see, you know, not only Boss's Talk 101, but to see a couple, a union, a marriage. That's deep. Wow. So I just want to salute that. Thank you. Like real talk. Because I've been married and divorced. And when I say, when I see genuine love, I respect it. Thank you. Man, I'm about to cry. You know, I usually don't share tears on your episodes. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead. Let it flow. I'm real love. You want some tissue? I keep my composure really well. I got tissue right here. I got time. Oh, good. Real talk, you know. We got to give people flowers and they roses while they're here. So that's me giving my roses to y'all. I want to say thank you first of all. I want to say thank you and I receive it in the name of Jesus. Yes, amen. You see what I'm saying? When you get serious, you say in the name of Jesus. I know a lot of people think he white, but I think he right. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. With him kinks. No. Don't play with him. I just want to say, when I think about the things that I've recently learned about you, just the way that you be helping everybody in the city, man, it definitely something to need to be applauded and recognized. You know what I'm saying? Like there's a lot of people that, you know, they do this, but they do anything for cloud. But you really seem to have it together when I seen you the other night over at the hub. Is that what they call it over there? Radio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I seen you, I said, that's the woman right there that everybody keep talking about. You know, and they finally click. And you were having a blast. I saw you dancing and stuff. Yeah. Bobby. What the hell? Well, that's my hood in there. Oh, Cliff was in there that night. So, you know, our show was the, you know, their support in OG Bobby. Awesome. He liked Lil Bro. Everybody in there. Man, let me tell you something about OG Bobby Billions, man. When I call that man, that man came on my show. Yeah. And man respect what we had going on. He didn't have to. He wasn't supposed to be back on here. He said, matter of fact, it was been his weekend, but I didn't call him. Shut up. Bobby. Bobby. But yeah, but we, we talk and, and it's just a good thing to know that the Billy gang is down with boss talk 101. That's something like I said, it's a lot of people that we, I reach out to him actually and it was space boy that made it, made it happen as well. Just not only space boy, but a lot of different things. When I hit him, he answered. I don't know if anybody talked to him or not, but it's just a dope thing when you get genuine people that lock in with you and you ain't got to go through no hoop lies to try to hang out, you know. But the show's been going in. You've been seeing it. Yes. We got what, 500 episodes in a year. That's awesome. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, what's up? Yeah, I'm doing numbers. You know what I'm talking about? Numbers don't lie. Yeah, so. So we want to get into you. I want to get into Chrissy before you became the PR. I want to know, as a child growing up, you know, what your aspirations were, your parents, I want to know all your background. Just go ahead and let it flow. Okay. Well, for those that don't know me, I go by Chris versus town. That was my original name as I was coming into the industry. But growing up, I was acting. I was in JCPenney catalogs. I was four. I started at four years old. So your mom and dad got you into that? Yeah. Were they actors before? No. So my mom has a background in music. Okay. So my granddad was in this Harris gospel choir. His last name is Harris. So technically just throw that out there. Me and T. I didn't since we were talking earlier. I'm supposed to might have lineage with him. Okay. I would cross him, you know, cross paths with him all the time. But we just never talked about it. We're going to get there soon. Okay. He's going to see this. He's going to be like, oh, okay. She do look like my. Black Jean. What's your grandma's name again? Right. Um, so we kind of started at that. My, um, my granddad was a part of the gospel choir. But my parents, my dad was like just an OG in the streets. Like my family did a lot of gangsta shit out here in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? And you know, cousins, family, you know, So you were raised with your mom and dad together. They're still together. That's 50 years of marriage. That's a blessing. Oh, yeah. That is a blessing. My brother is 32 years in marriage. And the other one would have been 15, but. So you have, you're the only girl. I'm the baby. The baby and the only girl. And the only girl. Wow. You spoiled brat. Like a mother. So that's why I'd be like, look, I can't fuck with you. I know what a man treats you like. I got a whole daddy and two brothers. That's good. So they had you in acting. What other things they had you in? Anything I wanted because she said I was the, that child. You know, my brother's everything. I was in dance, drill team, track, basketball. I understand that a lot of kids do that. But were you also a quitter? Like you started it and you liked it. And then he's like, not for me. I'm going to switch to this. Oh no, I accomplished awards and. And you did all of that. Everything. Everything. So I think that was cause I love school. I love to just be active. Okay. And my brothers are 10 and 11 years older than me. These sound like me. My brothers are 10 and 12 years older than me. Yeah. So like I was kind of to myself, you know, my brother then with 18, 19, I'm eight, nine years old. So I'm having to develop my own games and, you know, do my own stuff. I feel like an only child, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. So, but my brother, my middle brother, he ended up playing ball overseas. So he's very popular. He's named Keelan Haney. He was like a Kimball. They did like one state champion and 90, you know, just all this stuff. So at a young age, I was like flying to Turkey, Brazil, I met like, it's just, it was a, it was a life that. I can tell you that I was introduced to a lot of things at an early age. So when I became older, seeing these things made you want to travel and do all the stuff too. Yeah. And it wasn't, it wasn't foreign to me. Okay. So when, as I got older and I started getting into my own lane of things, you know, I would see certain people that I knew back in the day and I'd be like, oh, they're a celebrity now, but I know them with a relationship. And that's one thing I want to say here on boss talk one on one that relationships matter more than money. I don't care what like, of course money matters, but I can have a relationship with someone and you can go pay them some money, but they're going to fuck with me. Exactly. Because of that relationship before they fuck with a person that's just bringing the money because our money ain't good money. Exactly. So I just want to say that like, we told them relationships is major because a lot of moves in the genuine relationship, genuine facts, genuine relationships. Real talk. Exactly. But yeah. So just growing up, I've always been, you know, in the industry type of field. Now, when did you start taking it serious to say that this is what I wanted to do? Because you were dabbling and dabbling in so many different industries because, you know, that's what your parents put you in. But when did you actually say, you know what, this is what I want to focus on. So when I got out of school, I went to Langston University. And when I was at Langston, I was like, I majored in broadcasting journalism. And I was like, well, I want to do more than this. So at that time I was known as Oak Chris from Oak Cliff. I was at Oklahoma trying to make, you know, but I was rapping. That's how I know a lot of people from the Midwest because I was meeting Cali people, St. Louis, everyone. We had rap, you know, was having concerts, you know, homecoming and everything. But I wanted to take it to another level. I wanted to do more than radio. And you were rapping at that time? Yeah. I was rapping at that time. You want to drop 16 today? What? That's what I thought. Stop playing. Get off. I saw wheels. You and I. Drop the beat. She ain't here today, huh? Come on, man, please. I didn't know how you were doing it. Don't make them call us out. OG for real, Chrissy. I don't know my music. We heard about you. You and Lodees and Lodees, old pipe dreams. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Come on with it. Amen. Drop the beat. Ain't that what make and drop? She might surprise you. No. Hey, listen, man, it wouldn't be a surprise because I know already you know you niggas rap. All you niggas rap. You're right. It don't surprise me. Oh, God. And we're freestyle. I freestyle the other day. You heard it. You know, I got a little something. They do good. They do good. Yeah, my thing. You know what I'm saying? I get up in there when I want to. You niggas is very talented. You know? Oh, God. Where was we at? Oh, God. Trying to give me the freestyle, but I got you though. Drop a beat. I'm going to say a little song. You're talking about your music and stuff like that. Yeah. So, um, yes. I was doing music at Langston and then I was like, you know what? I need to get into something more. So I end up transferring to OSU and steel water. And that's where I end up graduating from. But I was like, I've got with my advisor. I was like, you know, what is it? I want to do this. Do this. She's like major in PR. Major in public relations. She was like, you can deal with music. You know, you know, major in public relations. She was like, you can deal with media. You can deal with communications. You can deal with writing because I write even still to this day. And you write for other people. I write for other people. And see how she said, I write for other people. I'm not going to tell you who the other people are, but I write for other people. You want to see credits? Well, let me tell you. Okay. That's what she do. She get on her ass people. Do you write your own music? And like they going to say, no, I don't write my own music. But you know what? I don't know why people act like that. But, I think they'll tell you in a heartbeat. It's such a joke from me or a country. They'll tell you that, but they're rapping in the street. They feel like it's a That happened to Drake. It's like your perpetrating. It's not your experiences? Yeah, like come on, it's how we getting paychecks. Stop playing, you can go look on the credit, but you did not write this. The producer getting 50% off the top. But that's for sure. Shout out to me because I be doing split sheets. Y'all need it. Yeah. But yeah. I mean to be to be in that whole field anyway and stay relevant as a challenge in itself. How hard is PR? So, okay, let me tell y'all. And how did you get into it? Cause you said you did it in school. Yeah, so in OSU, I major, I switched my major from communications to public relations. So I ended up graduating in 2008 from OSU and then I ended up moving back to Dallas. I wasn't going to move back to Dallas. I was actually supposed to stay in Oklahoma for a year and then I was gonna go to Atlanta because I have like a lot of connections and plugs there. Shout out to Lady C2. She's the one that, when you go to the hub, she's at the door. She's one of my Alpha Angel sisters and she's an alumni from Langston University. So I want to shout out to her because I say this, relationships, it matter. I say that to say this, when I graduated from Oklahoma State, I didn't stay for a year. I ended up moving back to Dallas because my dad had a stroke and my mom was retiring around that time. And I was like, you know what, let me get back home and make sure everybody's okay. Yeah, because my brother that was overseas at the time and did all that, he was in the feds. So it was a lot of stuff with him going on and then my other brother was in Cali. So, you know, it was like, I gotta go home. And you're the girl, so you gotta take care of mom and dad. Yeah, so I moved back to Dallas and when I got here, I ended up getting a job with Expedia as their public relations marketing manager. So I started in corporate America with the PR world. Now on the side, I was working for this company called Opulent Public Relations. They were doing like Luchy, Pookely Roy. They were doing a lot of the Dallas. They even did like Paul Wilde and some of the PR work industry work. So I was kind of working with them on the side of doing corporate PR. So again, you foot went into the industry. Which is two different things. How different is dealing with your corporate compared to dealing with your artist? Okay, so corporate is straight. Which is harder? Artist. Really? Artist, yeah. Because for one, a lot of people think they need PR and they don't. A lot of people don't even know what it is. You know what I'm saying? I saw a post the other day, someone put up, they were like, don't call yourself a PR because PR doesn't mean PR. PR means public relations. Now, let me tell you something. Yeah, I'm like, what exactly is public relations? So there are different ways you can say this. A public publicist can be a PIO officer, which is a public information officer. Which does what? Which is a political PR rep. I did that too. I was working for the city of Dallas for two years as the PIO for Mayor Mike Rawlins and for TC Bronics. So you're keeping everything in control and all the politics. Exactly. All the things that come up. The source. That you need to nip in the butt and make go away or fix the, you know. Exactly. That's what you're talking about. You're the person that is really, you know everything that goes on. So you kind of are the hero. You also save the day for a lot of things. And if the source says you're the source. So for instance, if y'all had something going on and you didn't, and it was about to hit the media, well your publicist is gonna come in and they gonna say, no, no, no. Let me create a statement. Let me create a release for you and I'll handle it and direct all calls and everything to me. So that's kind of how that. So when Bill Clinton did his stuff and whatever, so that was a PR move. It couldn't even be a PR move. Even stuff going on with Kanye and Kim, how do we know it's not PR moves? And PR stunts because your publicist is supposed to give you media coverage. Your publicist is supposed to make sure that you have all the dots connected. Now they do have some publicists that work with marketing more and managing and just brand developing because there's so many entities in PR. But I only got in it because it was. Because all we ever hear about is PR. We don't ever hear about all these other branches that come off of that. Exactly because a true PR, true publicists will tell you all the other branches. People that just call, they sell PRs or just do PR work, they're gonna just tell you, oh yeah, PR. Can PR person do all of the everything else? Oh yeah. Or you have to be just specially trained for that? No, this is the thing. You don't even technically, I'm gonna say this, you technically don't have to even have a degree. To do it. But if you want to do it in a political or corporate America. Then you have to have that degree. Yeah, you have to have a degree. And of course that gives you more leverage under your belt because you have more experience. But just because I was over here doing it doesn't mean that I'm better than the person that was doing it for Live Nation. And if a person who is doing it for Live Nation or for the artist, can they branch off and they don't have a degree. Can they branch off and get into the political side of it? Oh definitely. And that's relationships. Okay. That's where your relationship matters because relationships can make paperwork go away. Who get paid more? It just really depends on who you are like for instance. Cause you think that maybe the government pay you a little bit more. Okay, so I was making about, I'm just gonna be real cause it's public realm. I was making about 27 an hour. So it went from hourly to salary. So it's set. See that's how they try to cheat you. Exactly. Cheat you salary. This is my mentality. I was up at 5 a.m. not going to sleep to 11 p.m. I was always on call cause you gotta stand. I'm dealing with the city manager and the mayor of Dallas. Curie. You know what I'm saying? Shit is always happening in the city. Fire in the whatever. Guess what? The city manager is over the fire department and I came in with Chief Hall. So you're almost like assistant secretary or everything. Executive assistant all that to them because you're handling so much stuff. And although they have those people who have those titles still working for them. They still call you too. Cause you still have to be on call with them. Yeah. Cause sometimes executive assistant is getting all this stuff for them while you're the one over here in the office creating the press. And you have to communicate with all of the other people so you know that they're not trying to do what you're doing and vice versa. Everybody know what their role is. And PR and marketing matters in every company. I don't care what company you have. You're going to see a PR and marketing department. You can't advertise your business without marketing. You can't do anything with, you know and I'm saying that people don't have these departments. Sometimes like you will be your own PR like for shit five, six years. I was my own PR from my own self, my own brand. And like that's how I move now. I just want people to know that you don't have to like a lot of people say I need you as a PR. You might don't. You might need a consultation with me and I can consult you on certain things that you can do and who you might need to and I might can connect dots with you for some people but you might not truly need a PR. Describe a situation where a person or individual might need or a company might need a PR. Okay, so let's say CEO wakes up in the morning and someone in this company shoots other employees. That's the PR move you need because first of all, the CEO don't know what's going on. He has no idea. So he does not need to talk to anyone about anything. You need to talk to your PR first. Your PR is gonna go find out. Let's see what's going on. Let me get all the information and make sure everybody be quiet. Yes, because they shut it all down. And then that's when you start, you know making sure you regulate what you're gonna put out for the press. You definitely need a PR for that. If you want to get in the music industry and you just wanna connect with somebody and have marketing for your brand, sometimes it's not a PR job. Sometimes you might need a promoter or you might need someone that specializes in marketing. So when does an artist need a PR? Only when something goes wrong? Well, not only when it go wrong but anytime they need, let's say, okay, you know, the blue checks people get. Mm-hmm. We don't want to do it. Other than the legit blue checks. But, you know, okay. The legit, not the fake ones. Because that's the thing I'd be cracking up about is blue check thing. Because online on social media, you see some people who have 2,000 subscribers, I'm followers and have a blue check. But then you see somebody who have 150,000 followers and don't have a blue check. So the followers don't matter. They don't matter because you got some executives at Rock Nation, they got 300 followers. And they got a blue check. Because they are executive at Rock Nation, they're known. You see what I'm saying? And the whole thing about a verification badge. So a regular person, like, cause I went on like my Instagram, cause you can go on there and apply for it yourself. Exactly. So why would I need a PR to go do that for me? I'm so glad you brought that up. So on there, it asks you to put in press. They need to know that you are somebody that nobody else can have your name for one. That you are somebody that you're more than just in Dallas. You have to be nationwide. You have to somebody in Kentucky, in Ohio, in Cuba, Dominic, everyone needs to know you. If you're not known like that, then why are you verified? You can be verified in your hood. But why you need to be verified in a public domain? Why should I give you a public platform to be verified? So when you have those little links, they have links. You can go and get verified. They have you fill out your information. They have you upload your ID or, you know, to verify as you, right? And then they say, now give me all your sources that we can verify that you're this important. That's basically what they want you to give them. Show me you're important. Well, your publicist has created press releases for you that's on the billboard, that's on the hip hop weekly, that's on the Dallas morning news, that's on CNN news, that's on Fox news. You may have media coverage for, you know, a live nation event. And, you know, it's so many things, but they are nationwide. And those are the repressed releases that they need on IG to verify you. Now you got people that are doing what I call fake verifications. And it get took like, when you start seeing people pages get took, they done did some fake shit. Now you can go on there and deactivate your account yourself whenever you just be like, I'm done with social media for a week or a day or two. But when you start seeing people accounts gone, they come back, I was hacked at 457. Not saying hacking don't happen. Because it do, if you go in there and you click on something you ain't post to, you probably get hacked. But for those people that had all these followers and a blue check Instagram, I got a homegirl working Instagram. You hear me like, she lets you know, like, girl, they can see it. It's just so many people, they just go one by one. It's a lot. But they start snatching them cause their system is gonna do it automatically. They know they didn't give you that application. We get a hit up in our DMs all the time about that blue check verification. He gets texts about it. And I talk to him too. And we don't like talking to him. He be meddling. He be meddling. Hey nigga, what's up? What you gonna do? Yeah. I'm not gonna do nothing with him. At all. But I still be acting up with him. It be an African or something. I have to be. Oh yeah, they be trying to get it. You African. Because let me tell you what they. Some niggas are desperate. I don't care. They go in and get your followers, cause they want your followers. That's, it's like they send this bot out. Cause we do a lot of like, that's what we do in PR world too. We get, we sit down and we talk about all these algorithms and we talk about like analytics and things like that to make people pages grow. And one of the things is they have a lot of bots out here that are attacking people's social media. I can't have any verification thing. You know, like I said, I'm not one of those guys that really care to entertain what everybody else cares to love anyway. Like you said something you said about the 300, not only are there people that have 300 that have verification checks, there are people that got 300 that mean so much more than without a verification check. You just gotta be up on top of your relationship. Like you said earlier, the building relationship part, it'll open all those doors for you. And it ain't about how many followers and subscribers you got at the end of the day. It's more about do I really rock with that person whenever I'm in town or if I'm going over here and I call this person when I touch down, you know, when they look out for me if something happened in this area, you know, that matters. That truthfully matters. And that's what I think we get so confused. Like I come from an era, I'm about to be 40 next year. So I come from an era. Thank you. We have my daughter finna be 22 in March. I didn't even tell you how old my son is. It's crazy, right? It's crazy. But you know what? We don't crack. And it doesn't say you ain't went through nothing cause we all don't went through some stuff. You know what I'm saying? But what it says is that you take good care of yourself. You appreciate yourself. And you're going to do what you need to do to make sure you're good, you know? Health as well. I just, you know, I see you. I was going through the IG, I see you. What does baby mean to you? Cause you always supporting him. I want to just hear. So I've been linking with baby probably for about over 10 years. He'd be dope. He'd be running through the city, man. Maybe a little longer than, I want to say maybe 15. And let me tell you about baby. So I remember when we were younger, we would go to Cocoa Palace and street court, right? That's my spot. I used to go through there. Yeah. And so we'll go gamble, then we'll go kick it at the club, you know what? And he'll be up there just, you know, woo woo woo. So I've always been connected to radio. Yeah. From when DJ Greg Street was here, from Cocoa Butter, even when cat daddy was in the streets before cat daddy got on air. Yeah. And so when baby came to Dallas on K-104, I was like, that's the dude that- That Cocoa Bella. Look at Cocoa Bella. Oh, that's lit. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he down here down. And so every time I would be out doing my PR, my marketing, well, no, no, let me go back. I would be out hustling doing my artists cause we were selling CDs back in the day. You know what I'm saying? They want this social media stuff. So we were literally like popping trunks, selling CDs, giving flowers. Baby was always open to me as a female artist. He would be like, oh yeah, let me see your shit. Let me, let me hear it. And so one day he let me know that he heard it or was listening and that would matter back then. That matter. Because you'll be like, oh shit, he was like, yeah man, you got something. You got something. He seen me one day and was like- He can tell you about your music. Yeah. And when you can do that, then that right there established me and him to develop a relationship. A relationship. That's dope. And so from that point on, anything he does, you know, I'm gonna support it long as it makes sense for me and even with him. And he still supports you in what you're doing right now. Exactly. And that's the part about doing relationships, man. You guys have grown over time. It's not a one-way thing. Yeah, y'all grown over time and really established a relationship and the stuff that you both do. You know, iron sharpens iron. Thanks. So I definitely, I mean, the way that, like I say, the city evolves around a lot of different events that happen from whether it be from Bay Bay, whether it be from 979, K-1-0-4. And what they have going on is awesome. Just, what else, 979, K-1-0-4, 94.5, D-L-O-K-U, D-L-O-K-U been on her love, love D-L-O-K-U, man. She just hosted, so I do an event. It was on channel eight. I'll send y'all the link, but I'm doing it again this year. I do the Black Wall Street event. Now, of course, I went to school in Oklahoma. So of course, I got Tustle, just a lot of people from Tustle and just going up there. One of the girls I rapped with, Melanie Fields, which she's over the W-A-B-E, Melo Key. Ooh, okay. Melo Key. You know what I'm gonna ask, right? I'm with that good crap. Melo Key. And her name is Melanie Fields. She's now the Athletic Director over the W-N-B-A and I think the Tustle Shock or something. But that's what I love seeing, like how a lot of us grew up together. And excelling. And yes, and then we're in a different lane, but we're still doing what we love to do. But she was one of the people in Tustle that parents, not parents, but grandparents was a part of the Black Wall Street in Tustle, the massacre. And she knows the history and everything. She knows the history. So as I was up there in Oklahoma at Langston, because Langston is an HBCU, you learn about all those things. And what I incorporated from that was, we are the shit. We've always been the shit. Black people the shit. King and Queens ain't know if ands and busts about it. You know what I'm saying? We are true humans. So I say that to say what I say. I want to make sure that in Dallas, we don't have to be in competition. We don't have to, you know, talk about one another or just hate for no reason. We need to put more support in one another. So what I did, I developed the Black Wall Street Expo and it has all black businesses in one building and it's by black support, black. We just keeping that dollar generated within our culture even outside of that. So the first one I did was last year because I did some other events but it wasn't called the Black Wall Street Expo. But we did one last year and Vita Loka hosted and yeah, shout out Vita C Ray, the artist he came and dropped off a Jay-Z like painting that they gave away. We had like the bar tea. I'm gonna tell you like this. We had over 50 different business entities and I had got like bounce houses to Shaw or Parker. You know, it was dope. Dr. Rose was a speaker. It was so dope that everyone was like, when are you doing it again? When are you doing it again? So this year, shout out to Napa Spain as well. She, we're gonna host it at her event center, at her studio. It's downtown like Griffin area. So you know, she's okay when I'm for it. She's also Rudy's granddaughter. She does a lot of stuff in the community. A lot of stuff as well for the artists that come to Dallas, you know, her girls are dancers. They, you know, support and do the video. So what we're trying to do is just keep everything in that loop. So I would love for y'all to come out. It's gonna be in June. I'll send you guys information but set up y'all podcasts at there. You know, and interview some of these businesses and things of that nature, but it's, it's dope. Like we have face painting for the kids, bounce houses, popcorn, actors. Like we actually had some of the actor that's on the triple D review. And I'll talk about that too. Cause I do acting and casting. Okay. But the triple D big Lou Lamar straight, Brandon Christie. Okay. So he did a monologue for the event at the black wall street. So I even had like a little girl. She did a play, you know, a little poem. It was so super dope. So yeah, we're doing it again this year. That's dope man. I love your energy and the way that you go out here and formulate these things and build these relationships and can bring, that's a gift to be able to bring something together like that. To bring people together because we've always said, you know, when you look at Dallas compared and I'm going to compare it to Atlanta because we've always heard Atlanta, they have this closeness. They come together and support each other and do business with each other as black people. And I'm like, Dallas needs that. And I'm like, why don't Dallas have that? What it is about Dallas? Why we can't create that here? So, yeah. So let's back at it up. Back at it. Hey, my God. Back at it again. It's the yellow, the yellow, the yellow, the yellow. The yellow, the yellow, the yellow, the yellow, the yellow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm just gonna say that, you know, O'Cliff gonna rap O'Cliff. I don't know that by now. We gonna, I don't get my head. We gonna be on the delts of talking about O'Cliff. Tell me how many clients do you have right now? Oh, okay. No, hold on before we go there. I wanted to say something before you go, cause she jumps right in every time. We'll stop that today, right here today. Now I wanted to ask you about, you say you graduated OSU in 08. My Godson was going to school up there. Right during that time, maybe a little after maybe. Michael Harrison, he was a receiver. Okay. That was, that's my Godson. Yeah. So he was up there with Vernon Green. He was behind something that went into the NFL. I just know they was, they was hard to get. Oh, oh, oh, that was a, that was a good time for y'all. What? What? I'm just thinking back cause he was there. You remember, I used to watch it. I used to watch it back then because of my Godson being up there, man. Shout out to Michael Harrison, man. Shout out, Cowboy. Same birthday, Michael Harrison, shout out. Yeah. You did. And you know, Langston gave me Oklahoma Pier from Langston and OSU. They gave me a lot because at Langston, before I left, I got to do intern with Tracy Edmunds. Shout out to Tracy Edmunds. She's actually my mentor to this day. I can pick up the phone. So when she started dating Dan, I was like, Hey, then you gon' be in Dallas a lot. But, you know, she did College Hill at Langston. And so I got to work behind the scenes with College Hill. So it was kind of like my first introduction into like, okay, this is production. This is what production is. It looks like. Yeah. And cause she's on, she's Aquarius like me, shout out to us, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, girl. And she was just on her shit. But she loved what she's doing. She loved her people. And that was something that I was like, I like this, I'm gonna start doing production. So we can get into that later, but that's why I'm starting more into casting, acting, and all that kind of world. But talking about Oklahoma, when you think about HBCU in Oklahoma, when I first came here in Oklahoma, you hear that it has a lot of racism facts. So have you experienced anything up there? Big facts. Yeah. And give me an example of something that you experienced up there. So truth be told, I never experienced racism in Oklahoma. But during the time I went, it was this football team or basketball team. I remember my mom called me, they were in Ada, Oklahoma. They ended up getting drug in a truck. It was on the news everywhere, but it was like these two black guys, it was a football team. They went to go play football or something. And then they end up dragging these two black guys on the back of a truck. And that was in 2004. My mom was like, you be careful, don't you pass through there? You know, you need to make sure you know. What's that? It was Ada, Ada, Ada, Oklahoma. Did you ever go over there? No, because I would pass it right on 35. Like you'll see the sign that say Ada, but. And be like, I ain't stopping? At all, at all. But where Langston was at, it was like it's on, because Langston used to be like a prison. Oh. Langston was a prison at 1.4 slaves or something. Like it was, it was. So we were on land that was. And they changed it into education. HBCU, yeah, it's specialized in agricultural. Wow. So that's why you see like cotton, goats, all that kind of like the agriculture department is the shit down there. If anybody wanna get into agriculture, I would say go to Langston. That's why I transferred to OSU because the communications and media department. Wasn't all that. Wasn't all that. They just had like the KLU radio, but they couldn't, they didn't have the professors or the instructors to teach the other criteria that was needed for the degree I needed. You said something just the fact that, cause Tyler Perry did his, all his acreages on something like that, was all where it was a lot of slave, mentality, slave involvement. It's like we're taking it back over a situation where we can just leave. They didn't even turn it into something positive. Any little thing we can do to try to help motivate our people and make them feel better about themselves. That's one thing I loved about the Muslim faith and the nation of Islam and all those guys during the time when they was going through what they was going through, they was doing things to inject some motivation into the people. You know what I mean? It wasn't like they would, I mean, I get, you're not gonna agree with everything anybody does. But the fact that they could say, hey man, the white man got you smoking cigarettes or whatever and it made you stop smoking. The things that made you think about what you were doing and change the narrative like you're talking about. And think where it comes from because a lot of times people just do things fast. They don't think where it came from and why they're doing it. They're just doing it because my mama did it, my daddy did it, my, okay, but that don't mean it's right. Yeah, that don't mean you need to do it. Exactly. They may have no other choice but to do it. I just did an ancestralDNA.com. Let's get on it, man. Since she leaving, let's get down to business while we came to this thing. So while we came to this whole shebang bang, you know, you are one of the lyricists for, what was the name of y'all group? Okay, so we didn't have a group, but it was... You just said it was a girl with you up out of crime. Oh, yeah, that was a group in that Oklahoma in 04. So that was the L.U. Hardest. L.U. Hardest. So what made you like music so much like that? Because you black. Well, yeah, of course, but I like all kinds of music. I do too. I love all kinds of music. You listen to country too? I do, I listen to, I don't have a favorite country Jason Aldean is your favorite? No, I don't have a favorite. I'm a Darius Rucker type of guy. Okay. And Dirk Bentley, I met him a few times and he's a dope guy. Yeah, I like, I deal with country and I deal with hip hop. I love hip hop. I mean, I remember when it started, pop more Michael Jackson for me. I mean, I'm really going there with you because, I mean, I'm not, I'm not gonna sit here and act like I like some of that. It just seemed too bland for me. Well, no, I like Bruno, because Bruno is more of a hip hop. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, they say Chris Brown pop. Yeah, he do have some pop. You gotta think about how they transition over to some of their songs, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I can see it. Chris Brown, they say he pop. I love me some Chris Brown. I'm so appreciating you for coming on the show cause I never, I didn't know what to expect from you. I really didn't. Yeah. I didn't, when I seen you on Instagram, I was like... Do you think orange juice too? Yeah. When I seen you on Instagram, I was like, man, this girl right here, she sure isn't a mist of some stuff. It's this girl, you know? But one thing I can say, your page was tasteful. It wasn't like you was doing the most most. I could show you something that's doing the most. They're doing the most. Oh, it's horrible. I only post what makes sense. You know what I'm saying? Because I have other businesses. So my Chrissy, the PR page is just me being me. It's just, you know, if people like that grew up with me, they know me. I'm still who I am, no matter what. I'm cool, funny. I got the hands. You know, I used to fight back in the day. You squabble? Are you back in the day? Back in the day? So you just pull up? No, I just had the hands because I had two older brothers that made sure I pulled up. I pulled up. Did anybody record it? Can we go back and see? I'm pretty sure I would. Matter of fact, it's one of the big T's, shout out to the big T's was off. You pulled up. Wait. Right in the piece of play. You had to pull up. Stop playing with us. L.U. Hardest, me and Melo Key, shout out to Melo Key. But in Dallas, when I came back to Dallas, I started back rapping. And I was with like T-Cache and shout out to Stubbleen and Mr. Lucci. We used to open up for them. Shout out Lil' Runny. Me and Lil' Runny used to have shows, Young Nation. So like I was one of the only females that was out here in the mix, Indigo Automatic, where she was Indigo Red then. So me and her had albums and music together and Feezy, baby. She was with NFL, NFL music records. Yeah, them boys went hollering. Yeah, she was a female out of there. So I was out of Oak Cliff. Indigo was out the North. Feezy was out of the Cliff too, but she was rapping NFL. And then we had, who was our other girl? Why did you stop rapping? Miss T.B. I got married. Okay. And I got more. And you didn't want you to do it? Girl. It was, I divorced because of Miss the Violence. So let's just say. The NFL. You didn't know it was like that when you first got into it. Oh no, no, no. And I have a book with, we have a book out as well. Me and Laura Sass, four of us. Talking about abuse and all of that. It's on Amazon, but we did it through OGU. Okay. With Bruce Wayne M. So how did you overcome? And he know my people from back in the day. Really? How long did that abuse last? Let's go. Honestly, it lasted six months because I knew my work. Yeah, I was about to say you weren't no abuse victim then. No, no, don't say that. Because the people that I know, because hold on, the people that I know that usually go through abuse, usually, first it starts off. It's a long time. It starts off with mental abuse first because they have to really make you feel like you're not worth anything. So they can break you down. Fact. And then once that becomes physical and so forth, because it's sort of breaking your spirit first. Thanks. But for six months. So no, no, let me tell you. So me and him dated for two years. In the midst of me and him dating, he would always say stuff like, well, you shouldn't do this. You shouldn't, you know, kind of like doing a little stuff. And I'm very strong mentally. Like mentally, I'm very strong. But I'd be like, well, you're right. You know, I was more so like, let me do this for my relationship versus, you know, I'll do it for your career. Yeah, like he will be bothered that I hugged somebody in the music industry. So not knowing that was a red flag of an insecurity that he had because nothing happened. You know what I'm saying? But it's one of those situations. I didn't look at it like that. I was like, oh, well, my dude don't want me hugging people. You know, so let me not be all look, you know, cause I'm trying to cater to him. To him. But one thing I know is you never supposed to change who you are for nobody. Cause he knew who you were when he got to be. Yeah, he actually met me at, what's the place on Lamar? It was called Absentee Lounge. Back in the day, I was doing spoken poetry. No, I was doing spoken poetry. I'm just an artist all the way around. The rapping is just something I kind of took a lane just was doing, but I do poetry, writing just everything. And he kind of took that and was like, well, you don't need to do it no more. So this is the time when I was at Hilton corporate office and I was doing PR for Hilton. So I just say, you know what? Let me file back for music and let me just focus on getting my paper. And then I'll come back, you know, in that world later. Well, in the midst of that, the night we got married, I ended up, we got married on Valentine's Day. So February 14th, it was 2015, February 14th, 2015. And we ended up going to reunion tower afterwards because we was supposed to go to Hawaii for our honeymoon. Well, young Doff was here with Mia in the same building. And we ended up, so he didn't know, like people don't know who you know. You know what I'm saying? Just because you don't put it out in the world, they think you don't know nobody. But I knew Doff from other situations. And I was like, oh, what's up, Doff? Gave him a hug. He tapped him up. He was like, what's up? I said, this my husband. We got married. I'm all happy and stuff. Y'all tell me why as soon as I got to the room, this man slapped me soon as I walked in the room. Don't you be fucking introducing me to no Doff? Did you used to fuck with Doff or something? Like just flip. I'd never seen this in him, but I did have red flags before. Not gonna lie. A couple months before that he would get mad and would punch the wall. But never you. Never me. Or he'll punch a hole in the TV and the TV filed and he had to go get a new TV. And I'll be sitting up there like, bro, you just gotta go pay 500 new dollars for a TV. Like it didn't make sense. So I say all this to say, a timeframe don't matter when it comes to domestic violence or being a victim. It's the mentality you have doing it. The fact that my mentality was, my daddy never put his hands on me. Ever. My mama may have slapped me one time for doing this. I was 11 years old in the restroom. And she said, go do this. I was like, what is she? I was all up on that wall. But my daddy never put his hands on me. My brother's damn show don't touch me. Even when my daddy act like he was gonna with me, my brother stepped in and was like, you gonna whoop us? So when he started putting his hands on me, I was like, this is the issue. I said to him, damn, hey, I don't do this. I don't go through this. We need to go to counseling. We went to counseling for three months before I filed for divorce. And he stopped for a month and he continued to do it. So I just filed for divorce. He ended up finding out that I filed for divorce. And that's when like the big thing happened. And it was like a big fight and he almost tried to kill me. And that's when he went to jail and all that. But I say this to say recently, I got a message from a young lady. And I wanna, this is my, cause I have a nonprofit to speak up and speak out against domestic violence. October is the month for domestic violence. You wear a purple and you don't just support it. But I got a call from a young lady and she reached out to me and she asked me, was my name Chrissy and did I date a certain person? She dating him now. And he stabbed her. Girl got the message in my phone. She said, she just wanted to know. She said, my name popped up. She said, because he never talks about his ex-wife. And something popped up and said, let me look up her name. So she went on his page in his block list and I was blocked. I didn't even know this man was out until I had to call cause he's still on probation. They gave him 10 years. He did like, I think maybe a couple of years and they were doing the rest on probation. I thought he was supposed to contact you and let you know when the person is out. Well they did, but I was no longer at that number or address. So yeah, but I had to look it up. I said, they didn't contact me? What? Cause I was with victim, victim's advocate. And so when I looked it up, he was out. He was taking these classes like still to this day. So I don't know what's going on with this young man or what, you know. And they're still together? No. Okay, so she had the courage to- Oh yeah, she said, I mean, she was in the hospital when she text me and was like, I don't know what's going on. You know, my brother then was in a mix too. They was like, if they're we gonna be here when you talk to and you ain't meeting nobody. He said, they could be trying to set you up. I was like, it ain't nothing like that. I'm not finna go meet you. So you met with her? Oh no. Oh, okay. I had no reason to. And the funny thing, I had a friend on Facebook that did something similar where, we know when you're talking to somebody you don't know their past. You only know what they tell you because people don't go doing research. It's like if somebody coming for a job, you go do the referrals and go do your research. So if they're coming for this job to be your boyfriend or husband, why don't we do research as well to find out certain things? Thanks. Because the same thing happened to her where she had the clues, but she overlooked it. You know, this argument, whatever, to the because it became so bad where she ended up in the hospital with bruises, brokenness, broken that. And so she went back and looked for his ex-girlfriends and found out that they all were in the same situations where their lives were almost taken by him. And, you know, she put it all out on social media, talking about him and all the woman he beat up and whatever. But you don't know these things unless you do your research until you almost say it. Or until somebody lose their life. And I wanna say this to a lot of people sent a representative that's just like any company. If you go for an interview, you don't most likely get that person. You're probably gonna get somebody that wants the job. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times when you're in relationships, people meet the representative. You meet who somebody is presenting theyself to you as. And for me, I'm single to this day because I say the person I'm supposed to be with is my friend first. I feel like anytime, because the guys I've dated in the past, even my ex-husband, we weren't friends first. You just like me. You just had a crush on me. You know what I'm saying? To be a friend with somebody and once you get in a relationship, sometimes you see a totally different side of them that you never saw being a friend. Right. So it can go both ways. Anyway, it could definitely could go both ways. Let me go ahead and get in here. Okay. The one thing the guys are leaving out, Derrick. I did that because he just came in with that. Well, you know it's the truth, then. Why haven't you mentioned this, sweetheart? I mean, we always give our opinion so much about what happened and what's this. But when you don't have moral standards and the way you set up, when you're dealing with a person who really conditioned and prayed and do all the things that they supposed to, not saying that they too holy, you got to have balance as well. But at the end of the day, these signs shouldn't be there if you really go on by what you say you believe in in your faith. What's your ex-husband into, God? So let me tell you, he come from a church upbringing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm getting to it. Let me say he comes from a church upbringing and background, right? But he never was into God like that. So just because he had this background or upbringing, he wasn't into God like that, I was. Everything I do is because of God. I know that even the movements I was making with him, I was praying to God because I was like, God, you brought this union. You know, like show me what I need to do. That's why I went to counseling. But him in particular, he wasn't. And that's where we did not meet because whatever demons he was dealing with, those low energy demons was trying to attack the high frequency I had by bringing me down. You get what I'm saying? And he couldn't bring me fully down. Well, you know, if he wasn't praying with you when y'all started this relationship, if he wasn't praying for himself, if you didn't ever walk in and he was reading the word to try to get that balance, then those signs was already given to you. If you were looking at that perspective, sometimes we get caught up in carnality so much that we don't look at the spiritual side of things. So you have to have balance. So when you looking for that next man or whatever or dealing with that next man that's looking for you, just make sure the signs are there that they do have balance. So like the spirituality has to be at the forefront where you walk in, my wife walk in, I'm reading and it's always been that way. From the time she met me. All of that. And not only, and when you do this, it's not a case where you should be, because he's the man. He's supposed to be the head. He's supposed to be the leader. So although maybe in the beginning he'd be like, baby, let's pray together or let's, you know, whatever. Cause you open that door to know that it's comfortable. And I believe in God, you believe in God. Let's make this a great union before him. And once you start doing that, he should start taking the lead to say, sometimes he'd be like, okay, come on, let's pray. Let's do this. Let's do that. And you should see his walking. I think different. I think he should be doing that from the jump. And I think you shouldn't be trying that. No, no, no. He might be doing it without her singing. He might be doing it in the private. No, no, no. When you love God, like when I seen you, I wasn't hiding it. I love God. I told you that was a lot of the stuff that made me and you be together and married in four months is because you love God. You find somebody. And he was hiding his love for God. Okay. If you're not showing that you love God, then you got to teach him how to love. That's backwards in the first place. And then you got to show this man how to have a relationship. You know, you need to look for somebody who understands change and have went through some stuff to say, I love God and I love you too. But I got to love God first. Facts. That's the whole game, man. That's true. That's what it is. And you know how that then, it's messed up from the jump. So you got to just make sure you make that the primary thing. And then at that point, you can relax and know that, hey man, he love God. So I know he love me because God shows him how to love me. God is love. God has to show him how to love. And that's the part we miss him. We always want to get into all of the different particular things that happen in relationships, but these things are not supposed to be. You're supposed to do things in structure. We say we love God, but do we really? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, no, that's facts. So family, your cousin, my cousin went, mama, daddy, cousin, them go to church. Don't mean nothing to me. Exactly. I don't care nothing about it. I've never been a member of any church in my life. So that don't matter. What matters is, do I love God? And will I go feed the homeless with you? Will I go out and come on, will I go do some things with you? Remember when you asked me, why did I stop? Cause all these things I do is for service. You get what I'm saying? So what I was doing stopped because of him and it was never supposed to. Cause you wasn't out there with me feeding the homeless. You wasn't out there with me supporting community events and things like that. You know? Oh, that's definitely it. So that's all I was saying. I mean, I hear you and I definitely get where y'all come from. Without God, it's just impossible. A man is messed up. A woman is messed up. We all messed up. We all are working in progress. So we can sit here and I could say, well, I know some women that shot their husbands and all I, it's a lot of cases where the devil took a option in that thing and got in there and divided it like he's supposed to. And we sit back in the wheel amazed by, no, this is what he does. He come to kill, still in destroy. So why would we set up and act surprised when he shows himself? When he shows himself. And then you call him out. When he shows himself. And why would we be surprised when he shows himself to be who he is? Believe him. Because it already been described to you what he is. Yeah, and that's why I didn't take no longer that six months. That's right. You feel me? Because I believed it. And I was like, okay, you showing me what it is. And I ain't familiar with this. Yes. So it's time for me to move around. Yeah, but at the end of the day, that's just, you know, God just getting you prepared for something else. Yes. We know that it, okay, it wasn't just his fault. You both had part in it because for the simple fact, you know that when you chose him, he wasn't doing those things that you grew up understanding to be. Right. That made your parents stay together for 50, I'm teen years. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? You know that. And even my daddy came in and was like, I don't approve of this. See what I mean? Like, and that's the thing. And I say that to this day, you know, a lot of times we avoid trying to, oh, my mama didn't, they know. They know. And you didn't listen to your daddy? I didn't. He was in a conversation with me the week before I got married. He said, you sure you want to do this? He was like, I don't think this the one. He said, but I'm gonna walk you down that aisle. He said, but I'm telling you. And he told him, he told him, he's like, look, don't play with it. Don't play with God and don't play with my daughter. Yeah. And see, that's the whole game. Like, like we just sometimes, like I said, we all fall short of the glory of God. Oh yeah. So at the end of the day, to make mistakes and get back up again, this is where I sat, right? Exactly. And for me. And nobody's beyond repentance. So even him, he can be the best version of him. And that's why I feel like when I did expose everything and come out with everything and, you know, send him to jail or whatever happened, it was helping someone else. That was my vision. You know, like, I'm not finna be the one cause the only reason he got convicted or even had a punishment was during the punishment phase, the exes that was there before me talked about the things he did cause he had no record of nothing. They was finna let him just have probation. But they came out. Yeah. And then they start speaking up. They was like, oh yeah, he shouted me over here on Lancaster Road and they were like, what? I didn't even know. I didn't know. People don't realize that that, and that's what I'm getting too, is that they're, okay, in domestic violence, they're like, okay, I don't want him to go to jail. I don't want him to do this, whatever. But you could be saving that other person that after he leaves you and move on to somebody else, he could actually kill the next person. So if you actually speak out and take him to court, it could help somebody else. It could save somebody else's life. What I did find out about domestic violence, y'all was females do that shit just as much. That's what I was gonna ask y'all, I was gonna ask you, is it ever flit and have the woman beaten on a man? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, because it's something that I heard there really. But it's rarely because you always hear, to me, you always hear that a man is stronger than a woman, so it shouldn't be no woman beating on any man. But they do it because abuse is not just physical. It's mental, it's verbal, it's spiritual, it's financial. You can have a woman that's on her shit and got somebody that's not and she just beating him up every day. You broke head, bastard, you, blah, blah, blah. You mentally breaking this man. This is a man. And you trying to break his ego down and then I've had those situations where this doing this nonprofit I have, it's me and it come and say, look, I don't believe in hidden women, but this woman always hid me. She, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna snap on her with a, and sometimes those snaps be those moments where a man be done built up, all that anger that you done hit on him, you done threw a shoe at him, done hit him with a lock, you know, it's. Well, it's definitely something that you, it can go both ways. Like I said earlier, it's just a devil. It's really, it's not, it's a spirit. The Bible says, though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the fleshed fire. Weapons of warfare are not corner, but mighty through God. Pulling down of strongholds and castin' on the imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. So why do we keep trying to fight these physical battles when it's spiritual over? Hello, we have been charged now. I just, I mean, I just get sick of the devil wind and I just sit back and listen and be like, hey, it sound real cool. Everybody can be on the surface with this thing and act as if we don't understand what's going on in this whole situation, but we know what it is. But we choose to try to figure it out on our own. We only look through a peak hold at life, a key hold. God looks at the whole side and knows what's going on. You gotta defend on him to educate you and expose you to what's really real. So why are we trying to figure it out so much? Get on your knees or stand up or bow your head. Let's get it done the right way. That's the way I think, but it's really cliche. Some people might think it's hocus pocus, but I'm a role with the hocus pocus. Yeah, I love it. I wanted to just go back into the PR for just a second. I asked you earlier, I said, how many clients do you have now? You didn't get a chance to answer. Right. So as of right now, I have four clients. I had about eight on the roster, but I am dwindling them down. I just signed with the Chad Black Company, which is in Houston. He is a PR firm marketing artist relations and he just made the Forbes list, I think, again last year. But he's taken a lot of my PR clients because he's taken them on a national international level. So a lot of people that I already have, or turn them over to him, I turn them over to him. So whatever I've already developed with him, he's gonna go ahead and just take you to a higher level because I'm getting more into my acting and my casting and writing and directing. The triple D revenge movie, I was the casting director for that. Yes, shout out to my brother, he was just out last night for his birthday. We celebrated his birthday. So I was the casting director for that movie. And then also I have a series that I'm involved in. It's called the Smear series and a Millie series. I was part casting in that and I'm an actress in one of them. I'm doing another film. It's called the Wheel to Win. I mean, the Wheel to Win movie. It is depicted from YB ordinary. He is a clothing designer out here in Dallas. He is from Chicago originally. We have that work and we actually have a casting call February the 27th. So I'll send you guys information about that. If you know any actors or actresses, it's gonna be a really, really big movie. And then I just got confirmation that I am, have you all heard of the trap murder mystery? No. Okay, so it's by Harriet. She used to go by dirty Harriet. She used to be a rapper back in the day. Shout out to her. But it's trap murder mystery. They used to do kind of like a plague type of thing here in Dallas and then it moved from Dallas to Atlanta. So it kind of like just took off. Well, now they're developing it into a movie and it's gonna have like some high-end major. So I just got actually casted for a role in that. So the rest of this year, I'm just kind of focused on acting, writing, directing. So I can't do too much PR. Is there more money in that? Why you started doing that? It's more my passion and my purpose. Let me ask, let's get back to the rap. I wanna ask you about your top three artists of all time, being that you a rapper, being that you a, yeah. Dead or Alive, any genre. Yeah, but being that you a rapper, you know, you rap. She gonna drop that 16, he just found that beat. I'm not to the door like that, cause she rusty. Let me get off. What are you doing to you like that? I actually got a song I just dropped last year with Gator Man. Oh, you just messed up right there. That's my nigga back there. That's my OG. That's my OG. Call that nigga man. That's my nigga right there, man. That's my OG. You're in the right now. I told Lil Diesel to get that nigga. Lil Diesel ain't do nothing. Shout out to Lil Diesel to get Gator Man on the show. I told that nigga man. That's my OG. And I've been telling him, you may show, you telling him he got to be on Boss Talk 101, man. I'm just gonna see if he going up. Say, man, I done rocked the blocker to my feet hurt the slaves, nigga. Oh, God. That's my nigga. You got to get to me, man. You got to download. I definitely got to get that. That's real. She did the one with him. Boy, let me tell you, hey, hey, that's the one for me right there. What's it called? It's Trillis. Trillis. Look it up. Pull it up. I don't pull it up. Don't play with this girl. She is not one of them. He think you playing. Yeah. Trillis. And you don't see his name. See, that's what it saved on her. Oh really? Everybody do it, boy. That nigga go hard, too. He a copy back. Shout out to Gator, though, man. That's my old G. I do a lot, a lot, a lot, every time, man. He been on this show a lot. Like, me talking about him. Oh, I rock with him. I rock with him. He gonna be hurt. I rock with that boy there, man. He been trying to get him for a long time. I ain't really tried to get him because I don't know how to get him. No, you been telling all the people to retry. That's all I did. You know, I've been trying to get him. I ain't been trying to get him too damn long. I don't know where to nigga at. Look, he ducked out. Yeah, and that's cool. But he got a lot of artists. He say, Gator got some shit he about to drop, y'all. What's the name of it you and Gator them made? I'm gonna see. Trilliless. This is wack. Y'all, we gonna down it. L-L-I-S-N-L-E-S-T-S. Who sung it? OG. Yours are here. Christy. Is it yours are here? Yeah, it's mine. Featured. Featured Gator. Featured Gator. Christy. Featured Gator. I love the fact that that's how you stop with Gator, man. Yeah. What's the name of the song? She ain't really stopped. Oh, G-Stay, C-H-R-I-S-S-Y. No. Christy. Oh, Trillis. Let me show it to you. T-R-I-L-E-S-T. Yeah, shout out to Spotify because I end up getting, and I don't even promote my music, but I end up getting 400 streams, 400,000 streams. Oh, dang. You got that dang bodysuit on there. I see you. Give me an N. Look at how I'm getting an N. Man, getting an N. She got the bodysuit on, man. Yeah, you know, that's the rapper side. I always told me I wasn't gonna be shit. Is that it? Yeah. Oh, that's the interview. That's the interview. Let me find it. So that's Trillis. It's in there. So what are you looking at on YouTube? That's what I'm on YouTube. It's not on YouTube. Yeah, put in OG, space, Christy. C-H-R-I-S-S-Y. That's what I got. OG, but OG before? Man, do a barrel. You know what I'm talking about? Is it a blue? It is. It's a car, an OG car. Got it, got it. Let's see how they see it. Let's see what Christy got. Ooh, I hear that. Pimp. And you doing that pimp. He gonna love it. What? Wait a damn minute. That's all you got to say. I got my pimp. Pimp, see? That's all you got to say. He gonna cry. Bob, we just went out through there. The show just started, man. That's all you got to say. And he goes crazy. I knew it, man. I said, a big guy drew on this show, man. Damn. Bob, man, that's all you had to do with hit me in the inbox. You rocked with Pimp. It would have been over. I know. Man, let's do this, man. Now, he gotta hit real to the song. You started that right. Yeah. But who's she killing it? Let's go. Real talk. He gonna have you do the 16th. Man, I love that, bro. That went in, man. What's the instrumental called? I have to look it up. Yeah, man. That'll be dope. He gonna get you to do the 16th. See, now he be like, okay, yeah, you gotta do the 16th. She can rap, my nigga. Is he what you need? Can the instrumental cook? I don't need it here. I don't need it here. Nothing but you go in on that thing, man, right now, babe. You talk about. See, he thought you was playing. He didn't know. You killed that. Man, that's Meek Mill's song. Y'all done stole Meek Mill's song. Now, he a thrillist. I don't know what the hell that is. We trealed out her intake. Exactly. Man, I wish I had the instrumental for that thing, man. Why y'all get that B there? Quick plan. You know what? Let me see. You got it. You got it. Send it to me. Let me see. Man, that whole went hard, bro. God, dawg. I mean, you know, that's his, you know, anything Texas. Man, you killed that, bro. God, dawg. You see she got a triple D Nexus song? I already peaked it. I already peaked it. I'm a regular see. But what about me when she said that pimp, nigga? That was it. You can't even rap in Texas without saying pimp. I told you that nigga number one. Everybody keeps trying to get around that. This whole show synodized around the fact. Didn't I tell you that? Mm-hmm. The fact that when I came in, you know, I just had a, I had a, you didn't see Bobo on here? Uh-uh. Bobo Luciana. Was he? My man Bobo just lost his baby in the high school. He talked about it. Yeah. He talked about it. Everything. Oh, man. Boy, I kid. You know, we had Ronnie Spencer. Ronnie Spencer, he did that one day. You know, Ronnie Spencer. You're here, man. Hold on. I mean, I went with a lot of people. You already on there? Yes. Mike Jones told a story about pimp, about how he wrecked out in the car. What's his name? I called him Afro. I smashed up the gray one and bought me a red. That's Mike Jones and he was riding after that, that pulling up video and he wrecked his car. And he told that story on here. I done had so many people. What's his name? Mr. Lee. No, no. KLC. All of them that told pimp see stories on this thing. The producer. Oh, Steve Bielow. Steve Bielow. He told J. All of the people that been on this show talking about pimp. I'm surprised you missed that, man. I did. Hey, I've been repping pimp. That's what I do on this show. That's his, yeah. That's the main thing I do. Now, she talking about mental illness, but I'm on that pimp see stuff. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. You found it? I think I did. Man, send it to my number here. I think I did. Well, she doesn't have her iPhone anymore. She has an iPhone. Oh, she can't drop it. Okay, well. Oh, no. This is the action when he did it, when he bounced it. When he... I was trying to see if I, when I sent him the actual... Boy, let me tell y'all for to go in on that thing. Man. You can freeze out without it being... Man, look at your boy. He's straight boss talk. But he's doing everything with everybody. I got to go in and post that one. Yeah. I don't know. I can't get it. But you know what? If I would have known beforehand, I would have sent it. Bro, you see how we begin that love? He did a book about a massacre. It's about the Oklahoma. He says it was 30 something of them though. He says not just one. It's a bunch more. Oh, it's a bunch. And he did a book about it. He did a book about it. Okay. I need to link with him because I would love for him to be a part of the... Yeah, he would do it. He would do it. He would do it in a heartbeat. Yeah. He would with your boss. I'll show you. Mr. Loochie. Okay. They all be together. I mean, he be with everybody. I'll show you the man. I have a copy in the back. Okay. Let me show you this thing to beat. Just to make sure. Man, that boy. Man, you show another... I'm... No, it's the action. Man, you riding an old man. I got to... That's what I say. Y'all need to listen. You know, she got... She got it. We interviewed... Toye, then you can do it. Put you back into it. Toye, we interviewed... In Vegas. Yeah. You females, yeah. And we posted, did your girl. Rage. Lady of Rage. Lady of Rage. Yeah. So, you know, I was... See, that's the rap music that I fucked with. Like Ebony Eyes and all them type back in the day. You know, like Nemesis and... Because you know, my brother's older than me. It's like, I would go get they because it takes... Snake in it, yeah. Yeah, you know... You need to drop another beat and let her ride the beat because she's good. Nah, you want to see her get down. Yeah, I want to see her get down. And I do want y'all to really jam that shit because I'm talking some shit in there. No. I got a new little track. Not a new track, but a little slain in there called Pop Tart Beach. I'm getting some shirts made. I'm gonna cut it. I'm gonna go shit. Yeah, because you ain't gonna play it. Off the muscle because I be on pimpy shit. You gotta do that in Texas, man. I told y'all to stop playing, man. Man, you know, I ain't gonna lie, man. That's the sound I miss right there. The real stomp-down music that really... Hip-hop is something else. It kind of just... It makes the whole mood change, man. And I appreciate you, man. That's what I'm pushing. I didn't know you had it in you. I didn't know you had it in you. Yeah, that's ol' G Crease. That's what I like, man. You know what I'm talking about bad? For real, man. That's it right there for me. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. When you said that pim coming off I already knew I was gonna like, I ain't had to hear the song. That was it. Over done. I appreciate you knew it. I appreciate you knew it. Thank God so much. But it's just like anybody, Megan Thee Stallion, anybody that come on the scene in Texas, even Beyonce, now that B-100, y'all know Pim see what he done. Jay-Z will tell you that. Thanks. He knew what it was. Yeah, he know. Everybody know is that people don't want to go on and be real. He the only one stood for us like that. Nobody else stood up for the South like he did. Never to this day. Never. And at the end of the day I'ma keep saying it every episode. Yeah, because he talked about this podcast. Everybody else because of the South. Straight up. Yeah, because they didn't respect us the way they should have is what he felt about it. And I think that's what my boy, High Boy, was saying last night. Like nobody really, you have to make these niggas respect you from Texas, man. And then to be in a female too. Oh man, but they ain't trying to hear it. They ain't trying to hear that. Fuck that. I'm on my Pim sees you. So you ain't really giving up on the music. You still going to drop stuff from here today. Oh yes, because I don't, I don't have, like I feel like a lot of people in Dallas try to prove they can rap. Or can, you know what I'm saying? Like just on some real shit. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got to prove that. Like I know I got it. I'll just be back here making my little money on the side. And, you know, I'm not trying to be the queen of Dallas or the, the one that come out of Dallas making it. I'm going to make it anyway. You're doing the same thing you did as a child. You dibble and dabble and everything. That's the same thing. It never stopped. Wow. I mean. And that's what my mom, they be looking back like, girl, you still, you know, they really, really proud. You know what I'm saying? And shout out to my parents, man, because I almost lost both my, both my parents two years ago. My dad, my mom had a massive heart attack. They ended up dying, but they brought her back to life. And so she ended up stop drinking, smoking cigarettes, all this. So it made her life change. So her health is way better. My dad always kind of been in and out of sick. He's a disabled veteran, but he ended up having seizures and aneurysm. So now he's like at a level where he's good. So I just thank God. Like I say, I know God. And I thank God for allowing my parents still to be here. I feel like whatever purpose I have, they're supposed to see part of it, you know, before the earth, you know, they say they got to go or whatever. But that's my mission ultimately is to make sure that anyone that I fuck with, whether they're Dallas, Houston, anywhere, that I'm able to service them with my purpose. Oh, really? And that's really, I know my purpose in this world. And it's that is to make sure that I service my people. For sure, man. No, this Gator right here. Yeah, man. Tell them I've been trying to get him on Boss Talk 101. You on FaceTime? Sure. What's up, man? I'm on a podcast. I'm on Boss Talk. Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk, Gator. Say, N***a, I've been looking for you, man. You know me, N***a, when you see me. I promise. Yeah, yeah. One of my partners, he at our podcast, you gotta go do a Boss Talk. N***a, I'm waiting on you, N***a. We go way back. We was at the same strip club. We did everything together, N***a. Tell me about the Blue Chevelle. Yeah, the Blue Chevelle was there. But we all, like I said, this is spot for the D, man. You gotta come through and check us out, bro. When you ready, N***a? I put a date on it. When you ready? I got my appointment book set up. My wife's sitting right there, N***a. When you ready? Yeah. Yeah, you've been hiding too long. So we moving. We had your boy, Hot Boy West last night. So we moving, N***a. Come on. Yeah, yeah. I got you, bro. I guess in the next week or so. Well, I can't believe this, man. You coming in and making low Ds. Like, did she a real pill? Yeah. N***a, that was real. You see the word? You see that? Yeah. Low Ds, I'm like, hey, cut this part out, N***a. Low Ds. N***a, she come over one day made it happen, N***a. You hell on wheels. You know what I mean? Low Ds ain't gonna say, yeah, that's my girlfriend. That's what he's gonna say. That's what he's gonna say. Yeah, that's what he's gonna say. I just love the history of the music. When I think of the history of the music, shout out to Mr. Luchi and Mr. Pookie who come through here and my boy Dunn Chief, the E-Boy come through. And D'Roll music. Yeah, we have all of them in my role. They came when we just started. Mr. Luchi and Dunn Chief. All of them, they just pulled up, bro. Like, yeah, what we doing? And them, the ones I'll never forget. That's why I tell you, I don't let other people that didn't come on the show, I don't play like that. I'm never gonna block what God has blessed me with. Those guys were genuine. How could I now turn around and act like that? Didn't matter. That's what really matters. So I ain't playing with that. Exactly. So them niggas right there forever. Boss Talk 101 is only here because people like that showed up and blessed us. Exactly. And I'll never forget that. Solid. And we'll support them in anything that they do as well. I'm pulling up. Straight up. Dunn Chief, I'll never forget Dunn Chief, man. I'm pulling up. Who the hell is this calling me, man? Let's see. Y'all, you gonna, hello? I figured it was her. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the clothing spot. We right here now. You can come in. Malachi, you can open the door. Somebody's gonna be coming in. When she gets to the door, just open it. You know, Eli, she was at the... She was at the... Producer? Yeah, she was there. Girl, I never did a female producer, so I wanted to do one. Yeah. When you see her, you know, because she was there that night. Okay. Okay. My man, you... You have something else. Thank God. And I'm so glad that we got a chance on the opportunity to really sit down with you. Yeah, because he didn't know he's like, what we gonna talk to her about? I was like, man, she got a story. You just don't know yet. Yeah. I said, man, what the hell we gonna talk to this one about? You and I just don't know. And I know how God is. He always surprises us and he shows us things. He don't ever be... We... Anything that God put us in the midst of is gonna be worth it. Because you gotta think about it. Everybody that you interview don't always have a Wikipedia. That you can just go and research and figure out who they are. And sometimes we might not even know the people that we can call and say, okay, tell me about this person. Sometimes you just make God's work. You just talk and ask questions and he gonna show up and he gonna... Yeah. Release whatever needs to be coming. He aligned it all up. He aligned it. Yeah. So, you definitely, like I said, you want with me on what you said earlier, you know what I'm saying about the pimp on the first of that month. That's all you had to hear. And I just wanna say, man, I appreciate you for coming on Boss Talk. Definitely. Thank God for having me. And how can people get a hold to you if they're trying to... But you're not really into the PR anymore? Well, no, I wanna help, man. I'm still helping. I'm still helping people or even getting them in the right direction of where they need to go. So, how would they get a hold of W? So, my website is www.simplyposh-p-o-s-h-p-r.com. You can go on there and book a consultation. I have free consultations and I have ones that I charge, but that's more in-depth. Or I can link you with someone. I do press releases still. They just have to pay for them. It's not me being your PR. It's me saying, okay, you want four press releases. Cool. This is how much I charge. I'll get it to you. I still do writing. I have a manager for that. So, when it comes to, like, any kind of writing, grant writing, any kind of writing, you know what I'm saying? I got you. I think somebody wants you to feature on their song. Chrissy, the PR. Just hit me up. Real girl, I want a Boss Talk 101, the low jingle for about one minute. I got you. It got to be with a Texas beat. We got it fast. Southern. We got it southern. It got to be a unique song for a Boss Talk. Texas so much, rap it so much, it would be only right that you put that. She can't do it no other way. You ain't got to tell her that. I'm on it. Let me know what y'all need. I will get it done. I'll get it done. Real shit. I want to get on there with you, man. That pimp thing. I wish I just, man, let me get on there. Check it, man. Hey, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.