 Like Fuh is like the base level ASEAN thing. I think Fuh on a scale is even more ASEAN than ramen. ASEAN, does this word still have meaning? Is it just outdated and kind of cringy? Well, I'm making the case that we need to keep using this word because it is still relevant today and one of the uniquely Asian American words that we have. Oh man, this is gonna be a fun one guys. Let us know if you agree, disagree. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to the video that we're talking about today. We are gonna be talking about intra Asian American terms whether it's ASEAN, ABG, JDM, AYCE, KBBQ, Zanga, Friendster, Asian avenues, whatever. I don't think that these terms mean a lot to your average American. I don't even know what you guys are talking about. But they mean a lot in the Asian American community, specifically the Asian American internet community. Yeah, so guys we're gonna go over the definition of what I believe ASEAN is and why it relates to our everyday life today as Asian Americans or a lot of our lives today. And also we're gonna talk about our experiences with ASEAN culture, where we lived, where do we go? What are some Asian, ASEAN venues? And also why should we preserve terms like this as Asian Americans guys? So if you are interested by this video, please hit that like button right now and check out more episodes of the hot pop boys because that's kind of ASEAN name for us to pick. Andrew, chat GPT defines ASEAN culture as the cultural practices, values and experiences of people who identify as Asian American specifically referring to the ASEAN 1.0 days of 1993 to 2003. We're talking about Johnny Angel, JDM hot import nights, import models before the IG models. We're talking about raves, rave hands. If you were more in a Filipino ASEAN culture, it was more like Panay, that band or all for one. If you were more on the Korean side, we're talking about HOT, a lot of drag racing, a lot of ASEAN things. Yeah, and I would say all those things you named are very defining of ASEAN culture. But I think, and this is my definition now, because I still see ASEAN happen all day, everywhere I go. Right, you're not just talking about the prelude, behind the prelude. I am not just talking about the aesthetic. I think when I say, yo, I'm trying to bring the term ASEAN back, some people are like, no, why do you want to bring back the bleach tips? Why do you want to type like this? Right, they think you're trying to bring back 2002. No, I'm not. That's not what I'm referring to. What I'm trying to say is that ASEAN is a mindset. It's you being Asian, proud of being Asian, hanging out with other Asians, you're unapologetic about it. Who knows? You might even be willing to fight people about it, because you got that attitude about you, about being Asian. So you're saying the ASEAN mindset did not vanish in 2005, once everybody thought it was like uncooling, cringe to use that word. And it's super prevalent today. Another addition to this meaning is that when you're ASEAN and you're hanging out with other Asians, you're not as concerned with how the mainstream views you. Though that's what I mean by being unapologetic. You're not necessarily concerned with Hollywood. You are doing your own thing. You're saying Kevin Nguyen and Jenny Tran are not trying to be in crazy rich Asians too, or everything everywhere, all at once, number two. They might have watched the movie but they don't care to be in it, man, because ultimately you don't need mainstream representation if you're ASEAN. Yeah, I would agree with that. You just need ASEAN representation. And here's another thing, let's be honest, ASEAN, it is more Southeast Asian American leaning. It is. You have to be Southeast Asian to be ASEAN. So what are some ASEAN venues in 2023? Because you're using a termander that's 20 years out of use. All right, let me talk about this, guys. Plenty big ASEAN venues. Arena Night Club, LA and SF, Time, Commissary out in the OC, Labyrinth in San Jose, the Old Wonder Bar in Boston. Yeah, that's a deep cut one. Red Lantern in Boston, Old Tango in Philly. Yeah, that's another one. Hart in Houston, maybe even Den Social. Okay, that's a little bit leaning more on the East Asian ASEAN, but still I would maybe put it in there. Fat Buddha in New York, Old Fat Buddha, a little bit ASEAN as well. Guys, these- You did name a lot of spots where the proud is about 80% Asian and they play a lot of hip hop mixed with EDM just now. Yes, and all types of Asian go. ASEAN is definitely a pan Asian term, but instead of it being centered around East Asian culture, I do think it's more centered around Southeast Asian culture. Okay, so do you believe in the representation waves of the ASEAN 2.0 and 3.0? Which was, we already covered 1993 but 2007 to 2017 with the ASEAN YouTuber boom in Southern California, specifically LA, we were a part of it. And then now 2018 to current 2023, ASEAN 3.0 is more of the mainstream actors getting on whether in the white world or the black world, Hollywood or hip hop. Do you agree, does this vibe with your ASEAN thing? Or you're like, nah, that's just like a representation wave. It has nothing to do with ASEAN. Exactly, when I'm thinking about mainstream American culture, I think ASEAN is not necessarily mainstream. I just don't think, I don't think you're concerned with the mainstream. Listen, when you're ASEAN, guys, listen. No, you got your friends, you got your family, you got your career, or you're like a business that you're running, and you're not concerned about whether we're getting enough Golden Globes or Oscars or like getting on SNL. You know what I think is funny is that everybody uses the term ABG now. They still use it. Maybe it's an aesthetic, but you use the term ABG. But where do you think that term comes from? It comes from the ASEAN era. And it comes from that ASEAN mindset because ABGs most likely date other Asian people. They like Asian dudes. Or Asian gangsters at least at that time. Where do you think the Kevin Nguyen and Jenny Tran meme come from? That comes from the ASEAN world. So I'm telling you, ASEAN exists, but a lot of people leaned away from using that term because they think it sounds silly or they can only think of the bleach blonde tips. I hear a lot of like writers use it on Twitter nowadays in an ironic sense. Listen, if you go with your Asian friends and you guys go eat pho and then get boba afterwards and then go to a primarily Asian nightclub venue. Where people are vaping. You're being ASEAN. Those are ASEAN activities. There's no way around it. But yeah, definitely we expanded beyond JDM cars because a lot of Asians got exotics from Europe and things like that, Tesla's. What are our own experiences with ASEAN culture? Obviously growing up in Seattle, I would say they got a lot more nowadays, but I would say back then Seattle maxed out at like five out of 10, six out of 10. We definitely had a more Filipino version of ASEAN culture with all for one and Pinay and those different groups because Filipinos are really heavy culturally in the Bay Area and Seattle. But I know in LA and stuff they had more of a East Asian or V at Centric One depending on whether you were in 626 or OC. I mean, there were street races of a bunch of Asian people, ASEAN people doing street races back then. Peel off! What you wanna do? I just remember that. Yeah, so I think for us, like when I look at obviously living in 626 which is fairly ASEAN. Eight out of 10 at max, but not OC San Jose, Houston, 10 out of 10 max. No, no, no, no. Those places are the 10 out of 10. Yes, Houston, OC San Jose probably are the centers of ASEAN by the way. However, because there's a lot of Southeast Asians and particularly Vietnamese and Chinese Vietnamese there which I do want to reiterate that it does lean towards Southeast Asian culture. So you have to be down in order to be ASEAN. You gotta be down with some Southeast Asian culture and people. Do you think it's possible that ASEAN culture is just hybrid with a bunch of other things nowadays? Like for example, Andrew, I think dense social is like an ASEAN hip hop spot mixed with Korean culture. ADA rising is ASEAN culture mixed with third culture elite almost like pop culture, American school kids from Asia. Mission nightclub in my opinion or like exchange LA is like ASEAN mixed with fobs mixed with like more house drum and bass EDM culture. Yeah, yeah. Like all these things can be like a hybrid now. No spots are like pure 100% ASEAN anymore. They're mixed with another subculture. Yeah, I mean, I think again, and this is gonna sound funny to a lot of people but I think ASEAN is a spectrum. Just as a lot of things are, guys. So when we talk about ADA rising, right? Now ADA rising, it's Asian artists but they're global Asian artists, right? Now- When you go under Pan-Asian in the sense that Joji's from Japan, obviously and Nikki is from Indonesia with Ryan's from Indonesia. Yeah, so there is that Southeast Asian crossover. Like I said- I'm a Filipino artist nowadays though. Exactly, so I'm saying that ADA rising is kinda ASEAN. So if you go to ADA rising concert maybe you don't only see Asian people but it's a lot of Asians wanting to be around other Asians to watch Asian artists. But it's a specific type of ASEAN though. It's more a little bit ritzy subculture, Peggy Go, Yeji type thing. That's what I would say. I mean guys, I just wanna say like as far as our own experiences go, like I've been to a lot of those ASEAN venues that I just mentioned. I've literally been there myself. So when we go to all these different cities we kinda do check out the Asian spots. Yeah, Houston by the way wins for most ratchet. I do think you almost, and this is like, I don't know if people consider this like a trivial aspect of being Asian. You almost have to be down with eating pho. Like pho is like the basic level ASEAN thing. I think pho on a scale is even more ASEAN than ramen. Cause ramen is reaching that level of like the big streets everybody likes ramen and then salvo every take hyper expensive. It's super double. A little more for the anime nerd crowd. Yeah. But pho spots honestly are hubs of Asian communities. It's like anywhere you are. Pho pasture and rosemary shout out to them man. You see a lot of ABGs there. Why don't the Asian community why doesn't the Asian American community? I'm sorry. More embrace intra Asian American terms. Cause it feels like there've been so many that were so descriptive and they've sort of fallen out of favor over time. And we've almost regressed because I know I was talking to my Mexican friend Andrew they were saying within their community it's not like a hundred out of a hundred people use them. They got Chicano. That's more like Ralph Barbosa Pisa which is more like George Lopez, Pocho, Mexican, which is more for white Mexicans. They got a lot of like intra Mexican terms used to like describe their different dynamics. But Asians almost seem like we have them pop up and then we like say they're too cringe and we stop using them. Exactly. Why are we so caught up with what's cringe? Now I get it that some things are cheesy some things are corny. But Asian hood, Asian blah blah blah. But to me AZN is literally a unique Asian word. Listen, as an Asian community if we call ourselves the Asian community, right? What do you need to have a community? You need to have your own intra slang. You're saying it's not a community until there is in tribe lingo that people outside of tribe are completely unaware of. Yeah, I'm not saying other people can't use AZN but I'm just trying to put a set definition to what I think AZN means in a reasonable sense. You might disagree with me. Let me know in the comments down below. But that's what I think. And I think that as Asian Americans we need to still value those words as silly as they may seem. Again, I'm not trying to bring back the look, the aesthetic of AZN but I'm saying AZN is on. I think a lot of it is that the Asians that have a lot of huge impact pool generally like are not from the AZN world or even if they are from the AZN world they don't really let on that they were. Like for example, if you guys know I'll give a shout out to Aquafina. She knows about AZN stuff. Like Aquafina been in flushing, you know what I mean? Like, you know, a lot of people might just think she was like between like Williamsburg and then Hollywood. Nah, she like seen it but it's not necessarily a big part of her something that she's like making movies about. Now what I'm noticing is that, you know shout out to Simu, people like Simu who you wouldn't really imagine are fit the term AZN. Like we've gone out with him in Toronto after one of those kind of Asian celebrity basketball games and we all went to midnight market and big trouble those two spots are AZN in Toronto. No, they were almost about to play Time I Shoot. That's how AZN they were. Yeah, so I'm saying like I think there is there is some value. I think people are valuing the AZN spots in a way that maybe the mainstream Asians weren't valuing before because they're like listen at the end of the day, that is the community. That's a lot of people who followed that. A lot of younger Asians in their early 30s are getting on now who like went through the AZN period. But that's a lot of people who follow Jackfruit. Shout out to Jackfruit. Now I will say this, I love Next Shark. I think Jackfruit is a little more AZN than Next Shark. Makes sense, right? Andrew, AZN is not a binary, right? You're not either AZN or completely non-AZN. There are like degrees, right? You could be 20%, 40%, 60, 70, all the way up to your homie who's still like living in the old days with a JDM now whip, you know, that's at 100 out of 100, right? Yeah, I think at the 10 out of 10, you're not paying attention to the mainstream. But I think that there's a healthy balance. Like for me, I do identify as part of AZN. Of course, we couldn't have gone to all those AZN clubs and we can't say that we're not AZN. We grew up around Southeast Asians, you know? My best friend's Richie, I love Vietnamese. We used to type in sticky keys a little bit. Yeah, so, dude, kind of AZN. I'm not saying I'm 10 out of 10, you know? But I'm on the scale. What, like a three? At least, right? I'm on the spectrum. I'm not. I guess let us know in the comment section below, guys, how important is it that the Asian-American community has intra-Asian lingo that other people aren't aware of? Or is it just not even that serious? Let us know what's AZN mean to you and let us know also in the comment section below what percentage AZN you are and justify yourself. I would like to just announce to everybody that for 2023, I am campaigning to bring AZN back as a term and as a word. I would love for AZN to enter and re-enter the young Asian-American lexicon. Yeah, that's cool, man. It's an edgy type of Pan-Asianism. I like it. You know, I don't think AAS majors all like it because they might not, you know, I don't know if they come from it or not or they don't identify with it. Hey, comment down below. Debate with me. Fine, I stand, I will fight for this term. Bring AZN back in 2023. It's only, hey, guys, everything's retro now. Styles retro, whips or, you know, old whips or valuations are out of control. Let us know what you think in the comment section below. Silly, just serious, how about boys, you know, breaking it down. Until next time, we out. Peace.