 Perfect. And so, hi everyone. My name is Rajit Sharma. I am from India and I'm from the Wikimedia Foundation. I work in the movement communications team and I've been around for about a year. I look after South Asian and I'm more recently covering Asia as a region as well so I, I'm very happy to be here. Thank you for having me and I'm also happy to be a part of the next session, which I have realized in the one year that I've been here, that culture and heritage form such an important part of the work that we do, the glam work that we do, which in the beginning confused me for a while. I'm like, what's glam? Why is everyone talking? What's a glamourist about glam? And then I realized I was thinking on a very different tangent. But when I did realize that and then when I did meet a lot of people in South Asia and the different regions, I realized that that form such an important aspect of our work. So, without further ado, are we good on this? Perfect. So I'm just going to do a very quick introduction of the three wonderful speakers that we have. We're going to have Hardy, who is Hardy, who's going to come first from Wikimedia Indonesia. He's been with Wikimedia Indonesia since 2017 as a volunteer and started working on digitizing museum collections and now in internal affairs and partnerships manager at Wikimedia Indonesia. We have James, James give the crowd a wave. We have James who's with Wikimedia Australia joined as an intern and has developed a project called the record which I'm very interested to hear about it's on music and he's going to be sharing that with us. And we have Fiona. Fiona works with the foundation. She has about 14 years of experience of working with museums on digital content strategies and now works with the foundation as a leader for culture and heritage program. So welcome to our panelists we're going to do it a little differently than what's on the agenda. We're going to have them come on one by one, want to do questions right after. And then if we have time we can have an open conversation. There's an etherpad link on on the meta page, and if you have any questions which we're not able to get to what any thoughts you want to leave for the speakers. Please do that, and how do them during the barbecue session and make sure therefore gets cold if you have any questions. So, are they over to you with a round of applause please. Okay, thank you ratchet and good day everyone. My name is hardy just call me hardy my full name is only one word hardy and shot it's a common name in Indonesia. Yeah, I would like to talk about open glam a bit in Indonesia and I really want to know about open glam in your countries as well later on. Yeah, I, where we plan so far and then. Yeah, this is what we do in Indonesia. We started in 2013 with the name of digitalizing content or content digitalization so we only just digitize some collections and books that we have so we're going to use that for volunteers to make articles. That's what we did in the beginning of the movement. So, yeah, and then we changed the name into glad we tried to adapt. We did it in the galleries libraries are kept in museum and museum in 2017. So it is not too long 2017 we believe that we not only just work with the museum but also library archive and museum. And of course we need to collaborate with those institutions. And then we have more programs of course not only just digitizing we have one live one read and then we have Viki data and it's, I mean more activities when we have this glam Indonesia. And this November, we have glam tabuka or open glam in Indonesia. This is our campaign now we have we want more institutions to know about the philosophy of why we need to digitize and to open the collections here. Here is the team. This that's me. And now we have Benny and also the Benny is the glam stuff. And Dia is just is the new kiss on the block. She is responsible for Viki stories for glam. This is our new project in Indonesia. Yeah, we visit some places in Indonesia because it's really big. And there is only, there are only three of us and it is a long way to go to reach all of the institution, but we try our best. Here are the activities that we do open glam we we outreach go to the museum library archive and we asked them to make a kind of collaborations and then we asked them to. Yeah, digitize it and open it to Viki media comments and Viki source and Viki data. And then we have some workshops. Yeah, we also teach them how to contribute in comments Viki source. And then we also have one live one for the librarians. And we have some also workshop for ISA. And then we have competitions in our team we make a competition for Viki source. At the beginning we have only one, but yeah, for Viki, but Viki source bus in Indonesia but now we have Viki source for balance language and then also we have Viki source for Japanese. So there are three competitions in a year. We have, we follow one live one to two times a year and then I say also to complete the metadata for the collections that we have already got the volunteers, or even from our partners. So we have internship for digitizations. We ask, we open the chance for university students to work with us and to experience how to do digitizations, and it helped us a lot of course. And then we asked them to complete the metadata like for example when we also we also work with the Viki media Netherlands. We have collections in Netherlands. It is in. I mean in Dutch, it's impossible for Indonesian to search it in Bahasa Indonesia so we complete the metadata and only just in Dutch but also in Indonesian. And we also work with. Recently we tried to work with British Library because British Library also has a collection of Indonesian there. So start from this. This year we try to make a small grant for activities related to glam. And for the communication, we normally just digitize things but we also socialize it to the campus. We have collections that they can use for their research or maybe they want to make new works. Yeah, new works later on and then we use social media we make videos to socialize about our, our movements here. Yeah, I know the movement is still new but you know, the recess of the end, there are three of us so we only cover Java and Sumatra Island only as you can see the location is on major. Mostly in the in in these two islands only. And we have tried to reach other region but again, a lot of rejections still of course and but we, again, we start with the low hanging for track. So we try to the one who wants to work with that first so maybe hope that this movement will become a lot of growing and larger and hope that it's not only just Indonesia but also in your country as well so we can. Yeah, we hope that the moment is everywhere so. We believe that only just digitization is not enough but again, we need to socialize about open, open glam for them. So this is a strategy that it's, it's kind of possible for three of us to visit all the places in Indonesia because it's a large main so many island and so many culture. So it's time for us to ask them to together. Talking about glam, why don't they just open their collections and why they need to open the collections. What are the challenges that they have. So, to get again, of course, we need to know that this is the open definition from OK F open knowledge foundations that we use open data and content can be freely used, modified and shared. So we glam institution need to know about this definitions and we can apply it to the institution that they can make their data open at least and we can use it for all for our knowledge for our. So, that's why this month in November, we have open glam conference in Indonesia. This is our first conference. So, there are 45 attendees in Jakarta, five to six November 2002. Yeah. Mostly the attendees are from our partners, and we also open the scholarship for other institutions that are potentials us to collaborate. Yeah, we also invite some governments institutions here and we also we call it we had a kind of competition of big stories for glam that the winners will also join this conference. The topics are of course open access they need to know about open access copyright and CC licenses open data. And then, we also have a speaker from go to institute to have the binti. Breaking the binti. Yeah, for a second that's how pack your culture program and then Wikimedia projects we also tried to introduce the Wikimedia projects for all of the glam institutions in Indonesia and what tools that they can use they can use for their institution, of course, like Wikisos, Wikimedia Commons, Wikipedia and also Wikidata. And then we talk about open glam. And the feedback is good, I think. Here are the institutions that joined the conference, not only just from the library, we also have galleries. Yeah, we have archives. Yeah, those are the institutions that join. Also from National Library National Archives in Indonesia. And also not only just government, but also from private institutions. So, the feedback is good and then they learn a lot from this meeting, not only just knowing about our movements but also they collaborate between the institutions. So I hope that of the glam is spread and be useful for them and make them open the collection but from this in this record. From this event also we're going to sign to through MOUs with Balai Bahasa and Sumatra Bharat and also we're going to help us sign the MOU with the Museum of Delhi Sardang. So we're going to digitize that those three positions this month. That's a good thing. Okay. Before the conference we asked them to fill in the surface something like that, what kind of, which, which is just that they love. Sorry, this isn't Balai Bahasa Indonesia but I can say that the highest that I mean the one that interests them is the highest one is they want to know about I call it that copyrights copyrights and CC license that interests them more for the 57.1% and then followed by open data. That's the one that interests them so I think that this is a good information that they really need to know about how can they open the data so yeah they need to know about when we open the collection of course the implication is you need to know about the law first and then about the copyright and also about open data so yeah this is something does. But that's for me, I hope that there will be questions later but I hope that would you please just, I have also entered from me, do you have still time for this? Any questions from questions? No, for this one. We would then have to skip questions, is that okay? Yeah, we'll get a bit of it. Please share, which is please share the link of the internet. So it's, yeah I really wanted to know this also from you. I really want to know about the movement is not only just from us but I really want to know about the movement from your countries can you please just check your. I want to add this link to the FAPAD so everyone has it. I put it in the telegram groups, yeah maybe because this time is limited I hope that you can write down later. I really wanted the answers also from you want to know about that I'm not standing alone in Indonesia but I wish that I know about your movements as well in the region. Perfect thank you very much. So we'll have time for me one quick question maybe two depending on the length of the question so anyone has a question for Hardy please raise your hands and I'll get the mic to you. Wait for the mic though because we're streaming this and we need this everyone to hear it. Any questions? Yeah, I hope that for the Kerry Roberts online you can also join this. There are three questions not many questions you just want to know about. Yeah, so I actually have two questions one long one short. I'm Robert from Singapore. The question is regarding the competitions and workshops, like for the one left one ref, for example, how do you ensure the quality of edits coming through from your participants. Yeah, because from coming from someone who's experienced in editing sometimes we see participants coming with like less than Stella edits. Yeah, for one of them. Actually, we have a page for that we make a landing page. So I think one of them is the easiest way to contribute as a librarian because you only just need to put the source of the art. The article who needs, what do you call it the resource. So I think we also create a video how to contribute to this even so but not only just that, but we also we have communities. And we also put some libraries in Indonesia and then we ask them to to join the movement because it is two weeks if I'm not mistaken. So if someone want to join and don't know how to contribute they also can contact us so we can give them training something like that. That's the way you do and we always communicated it by social media. That's how we do. Okay, thank you. Thank you Robert, and thank you so much hardy. And if there are any other questions please do catch hardy and you can have a conversation so thank you so much for this. An incredible round of applause for the work that they've done in covering such a diverse and large region and also the list of institutions and partners come on that's, that's a great list. Now we move to our next speaker, James, who's going to talk to us about his project the record which was which is around capturing and getting Australian music on Wikipedia. I might just start talking as my slides come up. I'm not going to have time for Q&A or anything. So I'll try and rush through this and feel free to send me questions later. This is a bit of a summary of the project. And I will try and do like a proper write up next year when the project has ended. So just a bit about me. So my name is James Gawkes. I'm communications a product coordinator at Wikimedia Australia, some of you probably been seeing me on the email. Last year, Australia was in lockdown, because the coronavirus some of you may have heard of it. So I went back to uni and was studying journalism. Thank you. And that I interviewed I interviewed Caddy brain at Wikimedia Australia, some of you may know her as well. And I've got offered an internship. I decided I wanted to run an editor thought about Australian music because I saw some gaps, things that weren't there. And then the Australian Council the arts heard about it. So they're a government run agency who provide funding to the Australian art sector. Thank you. They wanted to get people talking about Australian music during lockdown and trying to find the projects that had visible impacts so getting on Wikimedia that's pretty visible the whole world sees it it's the top of the Google search results. So we wanted to create some new Wikipedia pages and we decided to commit to run for events with an outcome of creating 50 new articles. So we called it the record Australian music on Wikipedia and this is a commission artwork for indigenous artists called Ruby red. We had our first event in December last year in between lockdowns. So we had one in person and then we had to online and another one in person later. Thank you. Spoilers. So the first event was kind of around just music in general but then afterwards we kind of focused on classical jazz sound art or experimental music, and then also country music themed one. And that was just based around the people who wanted to partner with us and that was their interest. So in each of the sessions we had. A journalist or a musician speaker to start to kind of add a bit of interest to it. It wasn't just us teaching you about Wikipedia. But then after they spoke about their experience of using Wikipedia or trying to digitize their work that we would do at the introduction to Wikipedia. So these are some of the articles we created on the first event. So we have 15 attendees. We created 10 new articles and we added an expanded number 28 or so and uploaded some images to comments. So this was one of our successes. So on the left-hand side you can see the version of anti-fade records article that was created during the event and then it got expanded. We reached out to anti-fade records and they're a local Geelong based record label and we told them what we've done. And they said also on maybe your Wikipedia page and then so they uploaded their logo to comments. And then they uploaded a whole bunch of images of the artists as well. So it was really good. We did try and reach out to everyone that articles were created about just to say, hey, look, is there anything wrong? Have you got any extra references? But most of them weren't interested. Here's some stats with some of the pages we created. Sorry, it's all blue, but divide and dissolve who are kind of in the middle there. They're a really cool kind of like political doom rock instrumental group. Yeah, they're on Invader Records in the UK, but they're Australian. They've got one of them is from New Zealand. And yeah, their page just kind of had really good stats the whole time. You can see anti-fade records at the start. Anti-fade shared their page on Facebook and that kind of added to that as well. We got publicity. That was me on a windy day. My hair doesn't normally look like that. That was just for the first event. We also did some radio interviews and later events were also shared like in members of newsletters and things like that. So these are overall the page we created about 50. I should say that my fingerprints are kind of all over these. Firstly, because I added them to the list for every event. So I would curate the list of artists that we were going to create new articles for. But then I found all the references that would use like nearly about three or four. And that kind of informed how the pages were written about. I often went in and cleaned them up after the event as well. This was the first time a lot of people had ever used Wikipedia. They didn't know how to write an article. There was a bit of copy and pasting occasionally and I had to save some things. But yeah, these are all still up there as far as I know. Yeah, but other times people did come in with their own ideas about who they wanted to write about and then we would help them on the day finding resources. Another aspect of it which I probably would never do this again. We commissioned some new articles to be published by our partners. So this was one of Lady Lash. She had a Wikipedia page that was completely out of date. We couldn't find any good resources to update it. So we commissioned a music journalist to actually write an article about Lady Lash. And then there's a music college journal on their website so that it could be used as a reference later. There was three more articles that were created and they were about people who hadn't been on Wikipedia yet. So there were no references or no good references about them. So those will hopefully be found in the future. Yeah, the reason I would never do it again is because we're not a publisher. It was really kind of confusing to kind of commission these from journalists and talk to our partners and ask them to publish them. And then there was just a bit of back and forth and we just weren't set up for it. One of our partners, the Australian Performing Arts section, who also run the gallery space of the Australian Music Vault, invited me to be their first Wikimedia in residence on the back of the record project. So I spent 10 weeks in their archives, which you can see. Adding new pages to Wikipedia, Wikidata and Commons related to Australian music. I also gave their staff training on how to do it as well. And yeah, all 10 of the pages I created were viewed about 2,000 times between 1st of July and 31st of October, and were edited by 26 different people. So it wasn't just me editing them, other people came and cleaned them up. So, outcomes. There's more Australian music content on Wikipedia now. It also got people talking about how people in bands were already missing. This kind of a spun out into another project, the Australian Council of the Arts actually ran it recently where they got music journalists to come together and actually promote the idea of creating new content. During lockdown, Street Press, our free magazines that were about music that were available everywhere, they all kind of died. Some of them are back now, and a lot of their websites that we used to use and also died due to lack of interest or funding. So there is this project, the record highlighted the fact that there are no references anymore, and it's really difficult to find information. Yeah, and we're talking about how to use Wikipedia, so that was pretty good. And the product's been extended now for another year, and we'll do some more minutes in the future. Yeah, this is just a very rushed version of it. There we are. Thank you very much James that's a very, very interesting project and also gives us a couple of records to listen to once we go back. Any questions. I see around. Yeah, coming to you. You can just quickly introduce yourself as well. Okay, so thank you. James, I'm Rima from Indonesia, so I've got a few questions about the projects that you were doing. And the first one is, we sometimes in Indonesia got asked by the institution that we approach about what's the benefit for them like, what's the benefit for us by having a cooperation with Wikimedia Indonesia and do you experience the same with all of the institutions that get contacted. And if yes, how do you explain to them the benefits of putting their contents on Wikimedia projects. Yeah, and I think that's it. Yeah, so I guess the first thing we always say is that Wikipedia is one of the first results in search results so if you're searching for something as long Wikipedia doesn't really exist. I think the other thing is that we're just, I mean with the residency that I did, I just tapped into their resources. So I, you know, it's like going into a museum and being able to have access to scrapbooks full of things that could be used as references which the general public don't have access to. That was really useful because, again, it's linking back to them. Same with comments like if they're uploading stuff. It links back to the museum or institution that says, you know, this this item was sourced from there. But it kind of promotes them. But yeah, the main one is just like, yeah, it appears in Google, and that's like good for everyone. All right, I want to hand over to you if I can please feel free to ask me more questions afterwards but I'm aware that we do have one more presentation. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you James and over to Fiona for the next session on a global perspective on cultural heritage. Hi, I'm Fiona Romeo from the culture and heritage team at the Wikimedia Foundation. Thank you for having me speak. One of my colleagues, the deep girl is also here at the conference. So a lot of what I talked about will actually be his work. So please talk to him as well if there's anything you're interested in. What I wanted to say is we recently renamed our team and our program from glam and culture to culture and heritage. And basically we did that because we wanted to signal that we were broadening our focus away from these individual institutions and galleries libraries archives and museums, and really to recognize that culture is everywhere. It's a natural and our built heritage. It's in our performing arts and festivals. It's in the languages we speak our traditions, our knowledge, and we see our communities in the Wikimedia movement really exploring this diverse landscape through the Wiki Loves contest on Earth, Wiki Loves monuments, Wiki Loves folklore. We see wiki data campaigns for performing arts and festivals such as the Pacifica work that Lisa and Sophia shared at Worlds of Wikimedia earlier this week. And we also see language documentation projects such as the Balinese long term preservation and revitalization project that was shared by Chitra and by you at the Worlds of Wikimedia conference as well. And as a team to really orient ourselves to the sort of broader interest in culture and heritage that we saw in the movement. And so if you'll forgive me a little bit of theory in terms of how we think about culture and heritage and what we're really trying to achieve. So what we think Wikimedia is almost uniquely placed to do is to actually bring cultural heritage expertise and local knowledge together, and to create a platform for everyone in the world to freely access, share and interpret culture. We think about bringing local knowledge, local expertise, local culture together with maybe some of that more institutional knowledge that resides in glands. And we sort of have four tactics or approaches or ways that we think we can sort of further this bigger goal. The first one is really about growing and diversifying sources and making sure that there are locally relevant sources in the languages that are used people's languages. And I think we've seen some great examples of this in the last couple of days there was a policy observatory in Australia and New Zealand that's trying to bring in that local knowledge. Also just hearing from James now about the Australian music project that was really about making sure there were those locally relevant sources. The second thing we really try to support is to engage professionals. We have professionals who work within these cultural institutions, but to invite them as individuals to become contributors in our movement. And to do that we really try to craft invitations that match the skills and interests that they have and to make that match and that connection, really obvious for them. Another thing we're trying to do and we need a lot of help in figuring this out because it's so like context dependent and we don't know all of the best ways to do this. But we want to support the keepers of culture in underrepresented regions to share their culture more widely. And here again we're trying not to talk about those institutions but recognizing that they're all sorts of keepers of culture. So again, back to the Valonese Lontar project, we see that many of the most important documents are held by families in their personal homes, so they're keepers of culture. At the Worlds of Wikimedia conference we heard Kirsten and Nathan talking about the sort of living cultural knowledge and where authority sits and, you know, they're also keepers of culture. So we really want to think through in all of the different contexts who are the keepers of culture and what support do they need to make that more widely available. And then finally we think visual content and visual literacy is incredibly important to culture and heritage and we think Wikimedia projects have traditionally been much more sort of text focus. So really big focus for my team is to really make it easy for everyone to find, share and use media through our projects. So just really quickly because I know we're short on time I just want to share some examples that maybe bring this theory to life a little bit. So one of the projects that you'll be hearing hopefully go to Sadeep's session later today he's going to introduce a project called wiki rescues manuscripts which is a collaboration with Wikimedia Indonesia and others and was completely inspired by the amazing Valonese Lontar wiki source project. But there it's about supporting those keepers of culture with resources for digitization, improve technologies for text recognition in order to grow and diversify those local language sources that are so important. Recently we collaborated with a product team at the foundation around a new feature which suggests images for unillustrated wiki pedia articles. When we heard about that feature we were like, okay, this is the invitation we can take to museums because it's all about visual literacy sequencing images thinking about captioning images, and they're the skills that museum professionals have so we reached out to museum professionals in Latin America to work with that feature. And then one live one breath, you know at a citation people have talked about it here through a funded partnership with Africa in Africa, they really took that idea but embedded it as an accessible professional environment opportunity for librarians in Africa. And they knew that they were really motivated by this desire to elevate African knowledge and provide open access to in an educational context where resources could be less accessible. But we're here to talk about easy app. And so some of the things that we think we know about this region. So here I'm really drawing on work by Jacqueline and Ramsey my colleagues at the foundation who've been thinking about this region mapping what we know. We think that this region, some of the things that are distinctive is you have this growing youth population and that came out really clearly in Hardy survey where I think 25% were under under under 25 or something that's extraordinary in the profile of contributors elsewhere so youth populations. We know that indigenous knowledge and language diversity are incredibly important in this region and one of the great opportunities for culture and heritage. We know that mobile access is absolutely central and we need better mobile experiences, and we also know that visual content is some of the most engaging content for potential readers. And you know, for us this is really exciting because you can probably see a really clear overlap between these tendencies in this region, and what we want to do with culture and heritage more broadly. So that's a little bit about how we think about culture and heritage how we're trying to work how we're trying to grow the space, but the main reason I wanted to speak at this conference was actually an invitation to collaborate. We were recently approached by UNESCO Bangkok and UNESCO Jakarta, who have assembled a network of civil society organizations with indigenous leadership. And they want to work with us to support indigenous youth to document their culture and language using short form media so really just captioned images. They want to work across five or six countries so they really want a project that is working at that regional level in Southeast Asia, ECAP. It's linked to the international decade of indigenous languages they'll be contributing their sort of prioritized registers of intangible cultural heritage and the World Atlas of Languages so the content that's created will be linked back to that sort of data that they provide. But really my question for you is, how do we as the foundation as the movement as the ECAP hub as individual volunteers and national user groups and chapters, how do we organize ourselves to sort of receive this opportunity and work in a regional way and I hope through some of the conversations about ECAP hub, maybe you coming up and talking to me, Sadeep, Jacqueline, Sukhdi, we're all familiar with this project if you have an interest in this, and you have thoughts about how we could work at this regional level on a very applied project in the next year. I would like to talk about the most. So we're all here, hopefully you know who we are. And we have a contact address which has not been updated so that's Glam at Wikimedia.org, but we'd love to talk about that some more. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for that Fiona any questions. Very clear presentation. Thank you very much for ending on that note there is an invitation to collaborate as well. We heard about some amazing stuff from Hardy from from James and from Fiona and thank you to all for the wonderful work that you've done.