 So, I mean, particularly conservatives, but people generally, and even on the chat here, I've got people saying, but the founders were, you know, we talked about, we've talked about reason and logic and driving things from nature and everything. Where does the founders religiosity play into in terms of their thinking and in terms of how much of their religion is in the declaration, if any. So, let's start with this fact. Approximately 98% of all Americans in 1776 were practicing Christians. Right? That's a fact. But that fact does not directly bear on the arguments that were used by American revolutionaries during their conflict with British imperial officials. So, if you read the major pamphlets and not just the major pamphlets, the minor pamphlets and newspaper articles of ordinary everyday Americans between 1765 and 1776. What you see are Americans making political and constitutional arguments against the sugar stamp declaratory towns and tea chorus of acts. And then to the extent that they ground their arguments in moral principles, all of them 100% of them argued that they had certain rights and laws of nature. Every single American revolutionary argues from the position of the laws and rights of nature. So, in other words, nature was the standard for 100% of all American revolutionaries. Now, it is also the fact that a relatively large percentage of those revolutionaries also believe that the source of those rights was the creator, was God. Right? But there's a sense in which that doesn't really matter. All American revolutionaries grounded it in nature and the ultimate source of nature's laws is a secondary at best. In fact, it's really an irrelevant concern. It wasn't an irrelevant concern for American revolutionaries in their battle with British imperial officials. So, the arguments that they are making, which were new arguments and were much, much more reflective of the Enlightenment and even of the secular Enlightenment than they were of the Bible. So, for those people who think that America had a Christian founding, I'd like you to show me the documents. In other words, I want the evidence. I've provided a 400-plus, almost a 500-page book with hundreds and hundreds, thousands of quotations and footnotes demonstrating, I think, conclusively that the primary intellectual influences on American revolutionaries were those of the Enlightenment and of John Locke in particular. Now, I would challenge anybody who argues that it was a Christian founding to show me where, in their arguments against British imperial officials, they were making arguments from the New Testament against the Stamp Act. Right? Now, they did. I mean, there were pastors. There were ministers and priests who gave sermons during the period of the American Revolution. And that those sermons were full of biblical illusions and biblical arguments. But what's interesting is that even these pastors, their ultimate arguments were Lockean arguments and explicitly Lockean arguments, quoting Locke in chapter and verse. So, I mean, somebody's asking, a number of people are asking, how many of the founders do you think were deists, you know, believed in a kind of a God that set things in motion, basically left man alone? Yeah. That's a hard question, because it depends what you mean by, you know, founding fathers, right? So, if you're talking about the most elite of America's founding fathers, the Adams's, Jefferson's, Madison's, Hamilton's, et cetera, et cetera, I'd say, you know, it was a relatively higher percentage, you know, I would say to one degree or another. I mean, they all partook of a certain amount of deism. I'd say, Jefferson more than most, or some people like Ethan Allen, Tom Payne, I think we're much more in the deist camp, but even somebody like John Adams, who attended church every Sunday, Adams comes, I have to say, pretty darn close himself to being a deist. What we need today, what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think, meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason, by the intellect, not by feelings, wishes, whims, or mystic revelations. Any man or woman who values his life, and who does not want to give in to today's cult of despair, cynicism and impotence, and does not intend to give up the world to the dark ages, and to the role of the collectivist. Using the super chat and I noticed yesterday when I appealed for support for the show, many of you step forward and actually supported the show for the first time so I'll do it again, maybe we'll get some more today. If you like what you're hearing, if you appreciate what I'm doing, then I appreciate your support. Those of you who don't yet support the show, please take this opportunity, go to www.uranbrookshow.com, slash support, or go to www.subscribestar.com, your own book show, and make a kind of a monthly contribution to keep this going.