 Next question is from Jay Canales, 140. What are some good strategies you guys have done or do when trying to study a certain topic? Oh, I talk about this all the time. You know, what's funny is I learned, what I'm about to communicate, I learned part of this when I first became a personal trainer. I started to realize that because I was teaching fitness to my clients, I was actually learning it better because in order to communicate something, you have to really understand it well. So oftentimes when you learn something, you think, oh, I know this. Well, now see if you could teach it. The process of trying to teach it gets you to understand it more fully. So that's step number one for me is when I'm learning something, and I'm sure people around me can sometimes be annoyed by this, but when I'm into something, I talk about it. I debate about it, I discuss about it. Part of that is the learning process for me that helps me really learn what I'm learning. The other side of this, the other point that I'll give is this. When you develop an opinion on a topic, seek out an opposing opinion. And I don't mean seek out a crappy opposing opinion. Find somebody who you think has the best chance at changing your mind. Find somebody who does a really, really good job of arguing the opposite. And that will either help you develop your opinion more fully or you'll change your mind because they've done a good job. I don't even think you have to go that far. I mean, we're spoiled today. It's how I Google now. So if I have to name anything, why eating meat is bad? Why eating meat is good? I always just, right after I Google what I'm interested in, I Google the opposite of that statement. So whenever you're searching topics, just do that. And what's so amazing about Google is the stuff that people are sharing that is backed will normally surface towards the top. And I won't just read the first article on the top and definitely pay attention if it's an ad versus something that has organically surfaced to the top of Google. And I'll read that whole first page. So all five blogs and articles or studies related to that topic and I'll put in maybe the belief that I have or the question that I have. And then I will, then right afterwards, Google the opposite that is trying to support the opposite side of the argument and then read all that supports that. And I think that everybody should train themselves to do this. And I think it's so amazing that we have this resource now that this didn't exist just 15, 20 years ago. No, it was hard. It was very hard. You would have to seek out. And a lot of times you end up reading a bunch of books that never got to your answer where you can literally just Google specifically, whatever it is that confirms your bias and then the complete opposite. And don't just stop by reading one. I read a handful of articles and studies and blogs that support it. And then I take it to the next level after I've felt like I've informed myself. Now I go have that health and this is what I love about our relationship because even though the three of us may seem like we agree all the time on the podcast, a lot of times we debate stuff all the time we talk and you probably heard more of it early on but we do that challenge each other and here you're opposing ideas on it. I think that's the best way to learn. Yeah, I like to read or listen to podcasts or audio books and then really digest what I'm... I wanna take my time really to let it resonate and then see what the main points are. Then take that and then discuss it in a conversation and try and find holes in it and then go look for something in an opposing argument. But I think there's like a time period for me to really sit and meditate on what really was trying to be conveyed and for me it might take a little longer to then go to teach it which is something I definitely agree with. I think teaching it is where you really start to understand something because then now it's like I've taken the concept, I've applied it, I've meditated on it but now I'm trying to then duplicate that by presenting that to somebody else and am I doing a good job in that or do I really not understand it for you? So to put it simply, seek out different ways of thinking about the same topic. So because people think thinking and they think it's all the same, it's not. You have thinking in your mind, there's thinking on paper, no joke, if you write, try this, if you ever have an idea or you're mad at somebody, you're pissed off at your friend, write it out, write out what you feel and what you'll find is you start to process things a little bit differently because it's a different form of thinking then talk about it. Talking about it is another form of thinking and then there's another way of thinking where you debate with someone else. Now you're getting challenged on the way you think. Those are all different ways of thinking and if you can take a topic and bring it through all of those, you're gonna come out with a lot of confidence in kind of how you feel because you've gone through all those different things but this requires open-mindedness. When I seek out debates on topics that I'm learning, I seek out the P, and I typically do this online, I belong to these groups and I'll see somebody debating something so I'll go on and I'll debate it and I'll typically find the person who does the best job and I'm literally, this is what I'm saying, I don't say this literally to the person but this is essentially what I'm saying, I'm saying change my mind. It would be like if you go to a car dealership and you tell a salesperson, if you can sell me this car, I'll buy it. That's literally what I'm saying to the person. Look, if you can convince me, I will be on your side so do your best job convincing me and then we go and we have this discussion about it and if they fail, it's because I'm more confident in my opinion and if they succeed, well that's phenomenal. I'm now better off than I was before. The other thing this takes and I think this is why people struggle with this a lot is courage. It takes courage to put yourself out there and stand behind something and know that you may be wrong but you have to be okay with that. You have to be okay with, hey, I think this is how I believe and this is what I've read and therefore I'm gonna have this conversation or this debate with Sal but people are so afraid to get proven wrong or to sound or feel like an idiot afterwards that they don't do that. And I think this is a lot of my early 20s as a trainer. This is a lot of where my growth came from was I just wasn't afraid of that. I wasn't afraid to put myself out there. Even when I knew I was talking to someone who was probably far more educated than I am putting my ideas out there, getting them challenged, getting my paradigm shattered, probably being wrong, maybe even feeling like a little bit of an idiot but okay, it's okay because you know what? Now I understand, now I know and now I'm smarter. Now we move forward. One place I can think of right now where that happened to me relatively recently was through the childbirth process. I thought up until I was an adult, I think I was 38 and I thought, man, childbirth is a super dangerous thing. It killed women for thousands and thousands of years and whatever and we talked about it on a podcast and I said, oh yeah, childbirth is major killer and thank God for modern medicine. And a midwife, now midwives are experts at child delivery. Some people think they're OBs are. OBs are actually surgeons, midwives specialized specifically in natural childbirth. So this midwife is in our form. She'll sell, you're totally wrong. She's like, actually this is, she gave me a lot of information. Now I could have been like, screw you. And I said, you know what? She's an expert. I wanna see if she can convince me. So we had this long discussion. She sent me a couple documentaries. I did some more learning and I realized I was totally wrong and it feels good. It feels good, but you have to be okay with being wrong. But if you're okay with it, then you come out of it and man, it feels good because now I'm not wrong anymore. Now I have a better opinion about something that I was wrong about for so long.