 I guess we started in 1976 when we planted our first trees and we started selling in 1979 so this would be our 44th selling season. We plant our trees in January to February. After that it takes about four to five years to reach maturity and then families come up and cut their own trees and then it winds up in their living rooms. The prices to do business well with everything in the U.S. has gone up but it's hit farmers pretty hard. A recent survey by the real Christmas Tree Board is a national Christmas tree association. It surveyed a lot of growers and about 75% of them said they would probably increase their prices anywhere from 5 to 15%. Lawnmower blade that last year cost $12 now you're looking at $25 a piece. As far as keeping your tree healthy and making it last as long as possible through the season you got to keep in mind that that tree is still alive you know and so if it has access to light in any kind it's going to still be photosynthesis still going to be happening the tree is going to be losing water so we got to provide that water and most of the time that's going to come through that that bowl at the bottom of the tree in your Christmas tree stand. As far as disposing your tree after the holidays there's several options I mean if you're in a more of an urban area you know some municipalities will have collection sites where you can take your tree and they may grind it up in mulch where the the city may use it or they may offer it free to citizens to pick up you know first come first serve. Some fishermen like to put them in ponds they may have collection points for that provides harborage for fish and artificial reefs and ponds and lakes and you know I mean you just got to be careful in rural areas some of us like to burn them you know and I put them in our burn pile but you just got to keep in mind that that is a highly flammable object and it can get out of control very quickly. When you come to the farm and you you buy the tree you leave with more than the tree you leave with memories so that's it's more and more families are using the farms as a you know family tradition.