 The word is Prophet Victor Boache, Karim Bussana, he is also a youth mentor. Hi Santi. Alright, we are glad to have you today. Thank you so much for being here. So before we start let me give you the opportunity to introduce yourself better and then we delve into that topic. Alright, my name is Prophet Victor. I'm a Ghanaian, been a minister for quite some time. I started being in ministry around 2013 and we've been working as a part-time minister but finally I went to Bible school and fully joined the full-time ministry and that is 2017. I've been to Kenya, I've been to Gambia and other places for church planting and so finally I'm here in Kenya and I'm married with a beautiful wife called Sarah Peter. And she's here in studio just for the records. Alright, before we get to the topic there was something that we were discussing with my co-host and I don't want to forget that particular topic otherwise they would roast me, I don't even know if they are here but we were talking about the church for the better part of our conversation and Sakwa was saying that the church can be very judgmental for most people who have left church they usually say that they were really judged in church and accepted in the world so they felt very much judged. Do you think this is the case and if so then why not? I don't think that the church is judgmental per se but you can see that there are many people who feel that why do you want to correct me and don't tell me this, don't tell me that. We have churches like that they have laws I mean when you are coming to church you have to wear trousers, you don't have to wear trousers you have to cover your hair and all those things which they get their source from the Bible but I think that people read the Bible and misinterpret it to their own way for example if a pastor says that the Bible said that women should not wear trousers the Bible never mentioned trousers it says women should not wear things that pertain to man and men should not wear things that pertain to women and when it comes to dressing women have their trousers and men have their trousers so trousers were not meant for women or men only both sides have their own and they can wear so with that because of the lack of understanding of that verse they become judgmental towards that oh do not wear trousers, don't do this and these things are, I don't think it's there because the Bible we are in the dispensation of grace and Jesus Christ has made things easy for us by his sacrifice so all these things I believe that people misinterpret scriptures and that is why this judgmental thing is there so it's the misinterpretation of scriptures and that's why people feel judgment most of the time alright so I'll not get so much into that because today's topic is very different so I hope they found answers from that response now when you talk about youth harnessing opportunities so many people and I was just reading an article right here in one of the blogs one of the news papers I don't know if you can get it yes I think I have it here I'll just read part of it it says as dawn breaks over the bustling streets of Nairobi a stark reality shadows the aspirations of Kenyan youth and employment so this isn't just a statistic it's a narrative woven into the fabric of our society affecting countless dreams and stifling potential the issue of youth and employment in Kenya is not new but it's one that demands urgent attention and concerted efforts from all stakeholders so this is something that's there and youth are really suffering because of high unemployment levels and the youth being a majority of the population are the ones suffering so when we talk about youth harnessing opportunities then what opportunities are we talking about okay there are so many opportunities out there and I think we need to also come from a place of seeking the face of God and also learning to know what is there and for example social media is there and it has so many opportunities there that we can do there are many people when they finish school university whatever they are just looking for someone to employ them but you see you can also create your own employment there are so many business there are so many things that you can do I remember quite some time when I was in high school I was paying my own school fees paying my own rent and I used to struggle a lot so I had a friend who used to shave her then I would go create stories with him but one day I sat down and said why don't I learn something from him so that at least if I come and work with him help him somewhere I can get something small from him and that is what I did and I became a barber started barbering was I was in high school when weekends I go stay there by the time I come I have something that can take care of me throughout the week and that is how I survived and anytime we are on vacation I look for opportunities I have been a conductor before because I wanted to survive and I look elsewhere there is no help coming but many times the youth are sitting looking for somebody to come and help me and people feel I can't do this kind of job this one is below but you don't have anything to do so what are you going to do so what you are saying is you look for any opportunity around you but some people might say I have not really worked I have studied to get this degree so how do I go and become a conductor with such a degree I have labored for this how do I go to become a conductor I have done engineering it is not necessarily becoming even a conductor but sometimes there is also a place of volunteer you can also be a volunteer serving somewhere many times the opportunities are there but we are looking at I want to make money I want to get money but you see sometimes it's not about money sometimes it's about one becoming okay I want to volunteer serve here you don't give me anything because when you are there I was talking to a certain woman and we were having a meeting with her so I was praying with her for the son to get a job so she called me and said my son said that there is a place where he wants to go just to serve and not being paid then I said yeah that's a good idea and the guy went there started serving within a few months the boss came he said your commitment is so high we are going to now employ you and start paying you because sometimes these are the opportunity that comes our way and we need to also take it you get something okay I have finished university I am looking for a job that can pay me about $50,000 then you get someone so I want you to come help me here I will give you $20,000 oh that is too low so you prefer to sit in the house not working but you could have worked and be getting $20,000 maybe from there you will find somebody comes there and the person ask you what did you do because sitting in the house nobody will find you yeah okay but if you go out there trying to find something to do it's open doors for you for you to also get out there now somebody can find what you can do oh you did this okay I have this opportunity try and see and that is how we get so we need to also take every opportunity that comes our way in as much as we are looking for job and we want something better even when we get something small we need to appreciate that these are windows opportunities that can lead us to where we want to be okay so you've introduced the aspect of volunteering and not many people have really embraced this because they say especially this generation it's something that we're also talking about my co-host this generation it's the instant coffee generation you want to start getting money immediately at least when you get an employment or even if it's an internship then you want an internship that's paying you because you're saying why am I giving the services for free why are they using me but what's the importance of that for them that don't know in building their portfolio in building their capacity okay so I can say that in life we don't go up we grow up and so this part of volunteer one that is looking for someone to work for them when somebody would experience and so in the place of volunteer you are able to learn you are able to grow yourself because I can tell you it's not what you have studied in school that is on the field the field work is different from what you study in school so the place of volunteer you are able to learn you are able to learn from the people you are serving under you are able to gain some experience from the people you are serving under and that is what open doors for you for you to get to the next level of life okay yes so there's that the experience that you get that you can't get when you're just sitting around and then you think that you know everything but until you get to the job market then you understand that the different dynamics there so it's very important and what about potential young people tapping into potential when you talk about potential it's something that is in them really but they don't really know so how do they get to tap into this potential okay for you to get to that space I think one of the things you have to do is to submit to mentorship you know your mentor can see what is in you that you yourself is not aware of so it is one of the place where you can discover your potential number two you can also ask God about it who am I and with that God can review to you this is who you are this is what you can do also another place is a place of service learn to serve because for example I am a very shy person look at you and think how you shy and I never thought I could even stand in front of people and talk it was very hard thing for me to do so I find myself serving a man of God and very committed and as it went on and went on now I was giving opportunity to do things and I was doing though I was shaking but from there I got a lot of confidence now I discovered that finally I can preach I can teach I can talk to people so that is how I discover what is in me so in a place of service you can also discover what you carry inside of you amazing so pointers your mentors being around mentors they will point out things in you that you don't know just serving you grow in that area and just asking God to show you what is in you because after all he is the creator and the something that you've mentioned most forgetting what is it okay I think it has gone from something that you had mentioned place of mentorship let me just speak from there how do you identify mentors you know as you want to develop in your career how do you identify the right mentors and how are you supposed to allow yourself to be mentored one of the things place to discover mentor is also come to a place of asking God because there are so many people out there and everyone have their spirit what they carry and all that so you ask God what person would you lead me to mentor me and God can lead you to or sometimes also you can be in a space where you admire someone and what they have so you can also approach them and say I think I love what you do and I love what you carry I love your content so I want to learn something from you can I submit myself under you and that is when also you can discover asking God or looking and finding somebody you are comfortable with because mentorship deals with accountability so you need to look for somebody you can openly share your heart without the person judging you somebody you can be accountable to tell them your weakness tell them your strength tell them what you need and they will help you so basically you approach someone that you look up to and you ask them to be your mentor and then you submit to them being accountable to them and letting them correct you and let you know your weaknesses and as you go on then how are you supposed to maintain that relationship by being accountable there are many people when they submit to a mentor they are looking for the mentor to be looking for them every day call them, find out how are you doing no, it's you who need something from them and some of these mentors are very busy doing this and that so you have to push you have to maintain that relationship by making close contact every day looking for them always when you need help but sometimes you just call to check up on them sometimes you say oh today if you are less busy I just want to have time with you, just go there and that is how you maintain relationship and also in the place of that you have to have a teachable spirit you have to have a trainable spirit and also a ascendable spirit because this mentor some of them will ask you do this for me so if you don't have such some do that to test your heart because also in a place where before God takes you to the next level He will test your heart and sometime He will use people we submit under to test our heart so it's you to maintain that close contact so at least you have that teachable spirit not the noise all kind of attitude when you are going there now you being a mind of God I would want to ask you the place of action in faith because some people are very comfortable being Christians and some people say Christians are very lazy I don't know how true that is because you believe that God will provide so you just relax and wait for God to provide step out in faith and go out there and look for look for opportunities so what is the place of action in faith faith has its own way and you see the Bible says faith would not works is dead because faith comes would work the Bible said that Jesus met the man who has been crippled for 38 years when Jesus met him do you want to be healed a simple question he said I have no man and Jesus said get up and pick up your mat and walk so there is a pain the man believe that Jesus is going to heal him but there is a place of action where you have to get up and walk because in as much as Jesus has prayed for you if you still sit there you cannot walk the feet cannot carry you from the mat and begin to push you that you should run when the prayer is made action must take place but there are things it is not in a prayer realm for example you find a Christian sitting in a house and I'm trusting God for a job I'm trusting God for a job fasting and praying yet he doesn't want to go out there to look for opportunities to go out there ask around cannot find something here to do so we believe that God can do everything it is true God can do everything but also God wants to see the people taking step if you want to start a business you find a Christian go for a prayer meeting from Monday to Sunday and you have a business how does it work so you have to also know the place in as much as there is grace there is faith there is also a place of human responsibility which that one God will not do for you God will not open your shop for you when customers come and you are frowning God will not tell you to smile it is your responsibility to be nice to customers to take care of people to have a good character talk to people nicely but you cannot have a nasty attitude and think that I want to check to give offerings so God will open heaven no God is very fair whether you are believer or unbeliever if you follow the principles of the Bible you will get your resource so you need to step out there in faith and work and look for those opportunities not just sit down and go for prayer meetings Monday to Monday and imagining that it will just come at your door miracles do happen but you need to go out there ok so there is this thing that people have someone might have the potential they have so much potential in you but then there is the we call it imposter syndrome where you have so much self doubt people believe in you everyone but you everyone believes in you but yourself you don't think you can be that much you know so how do you overcome such ok also comes with place of mentorship yes if you have a mentor they are going to encourage you I have worked with so many people have one of my daughter who usually say may I fear me I can't do this but I kept telling her I kept telling her and one day I gave her opportunity to do something she did beyond everybody were asking oh wow you mean you can do all these things but you see she had so much fear and doubt in her that I don't qualify to do that so when you submit yourself under mentorship they grow you they give you opportunities they tell you what you can do and they push you and so that is how one of the way to overcome fear is to do what you fear to do ok so you do what you fear to do that's how you overcome it just step out and do that thing face it head on what about stagnation for those that are already in career business whatever thing they are in but they feel like they are stagnated it's like I'm not improving it's like you know getting any promotion there's no new opportunities coming your way ok stagnation I usually tell people that if something is not working don't blame people also sit down and ask yourself where have I gone wrong because we end up blaming people especially Christian my family witches their ancestral curses we are killing them with fire would gun everything but you see sometimes when you are not moving forward you should ask yourself because you need you cannot be in a field where you don't seek to grow because before God promotes you growth must take place and that is why even in the space of the world if someone want promotion they upgrade themselves they either do their masters or their PhD for them to be promoted so wherever you are when you are not growing it means there is something if you are not moving forward it means there is something that you are not growing anything you find yourself lacking it means there is less knowledge there if I was a lack of knowledge my people perish so we need to seek knowledge we need to seek growth if you are doing business what are you doing what are some of the people who have done the same thing you need to meet yourself to them don't go and ask money sometimes we are quick to ask money instead of asking wisdom oh my business is not growing can you give me a loan to top up but go to somebody who has done well ask them how did you do it how did this thing work how does this work and when you learn I believe that with knowledge you begin to see yourself growing wonderful that's well answered so what about you said that you go out and you ask from someone who is doing it better and that introduces also the aspect of networking with people in your area in your sect what is the importance of this maybe you can go deeper into networking it's very important to learn from the people who are doing well because the reason why God put somebody ahead of you is for your learning you do not have to go through the mistakes they have gone through to be there their mistakes are a stepping stone for you to grow from there but you see there are many people they want to be original but there is nothing original the Bible said there is nothing new under the sun whatever that is there has been there before just that people modify things to become better version of what it was but it always has been there before so what we have to do is to learn from the people who are doing well go to them, ask questions if you cannot reach them Internet, Google, learn what they did how they went about things how they got to where they are and that is what we do and also it comes to also mentorship comes to play because such people can be your mentor then you go to them recently there was something I was looking for a solution for then I reached out to a certain man of God and had a meeting with him and he started teaching me and it really opened my mind to see so many things that I have never thought of and so that is what happens humility to go and ask but people want to figure out things on their own spending one year to figure out things you can ask somebody and within a month you graduate from that level so seek counsel we have gone ahead of you it saves you time and the trouble so there is something that I got from you you were talking about faithfulness in your place of service and you said the badge of service is faithfulness so you can expand on it one of the things you should understand is that faithfulness is very keen whether you are receiving salary or not whether you have been paid or not you have to be faithful because the Bible said in verse 4 verse 2 it is required in steward that a man be found faithful so whatever you are doing God requires you to be faithful you are trusting God praying God open the door for me I want to get money God gives you a job your first salary you are not even thinking of saving you are not thinking of investing anywhere so you are not faithful with the money you have received so therefore God is not going to entrust you with more God seeks for faithfulness he that much is given much is required so God requires your faithfulness wherever you find yourself in relationship, in marriage, in business at your workplace because people usually work hard when they are under supervision but sometimes God also looks at the places where nobody is looking at you how you are behaving that is when promotion comes so speaking of that for some people they say it is easier said than done because some people work in very toxic work environments you are frustrated by your boss you don't have peace at your workplace yet you are still expected to be faithful so how do you still ensure that you are faithful at your workplace despite it being toxic or should you leave what are the options that you have for me the Bible says that there is no leader that was not given by God so before if God gave you that job then he puts you there for a reason but there are many people who have some attitude that also God wants to deal with and so you will put you under a hardship boss to make sure he polish you because the Bible said that it says I am trying to remember I will mention it when I remember but when we are put there it is a place of position you should understand that you have been positioned there to learn something because it said whatever we do we do it as unto the Lord so once you are there it is not about your boss your service is not going to the boss in as much as whatever you are doing maybe he is the work owner he earned from it but also the service is to other people so your faithfulness is required as a worker once you serve there one thing I know that whatever we serve we can become whatever we serve we can become if you serve in a television station you have the potential to build one if you serve in politics you have the potential to become the next president so it is your faithfulness that will give you that opportunity not how you have been treated it is not about you it is about what you will get from the workplace the experience you gain from there the impartation you will get from there is what matters not how you are treated okay what about now your and this is a place where many gen z's you feel you are very critical about when it comes to mental health you know but I try to be very faithful at it but it affects you it affects your mental states you become depressed because every time the boss is shouting at you you have done your best but he is just shouting at you for no reason someone is speaking at you for no reason it affects even without you really wanting it to so how do you ensure that you are still faithful without it getting to you okay for me I would say that in as much as you being shouted sometimes you see what are powerful and we have to also be in a space where you do not allow things to enter into you of course you can be in a wrong place which if you pray and God is not the one that led you there then you have to live but if it is God who positioned you there and you are very sure that God put me there then God knows why He has put you there I have been in a space where I was looked down upon there was nothing that I did that was nice everything I do someone has a problem about it but I was praying to God and I was asking God what do I do and God said I have put you there for a reason and there is something you must learn from there and so I have to stay there and stay until God told me it's time for you to move forward and so sometimes don't look at what you are going through so much but look at what you are learning in as much as your boss is harsh your boss is complaining your boss is shouting at you what are you learning from the place what are some of the potentials that you are getting from the place what are some of the opportunities that you are getting from those places when you look at that and do not pay so much attention to the negativity I mean I was talking to one of my daughter and I said that whenever that is happening to you even if it is 1% positive there hold on to that one and let go of every negativity that is surrounding it so basically you focus on the positives than the negatives so have your focus right there is also something that you said on working not for the salary but for inheritance what do you mean by that many a times when somebody is working their mind is on the money they are getting so when you find people people who are complaining that this work is hard is because they are there for salary but you see there are places you can serve under a boss who has millions of shillings and when you are there maybe this guy is not even paying you well maybe he delay your salary for many months before he gives you and you find people complaining there is a wisdom on this man that you can learn there is an inheritance it is not what you get the bible said that a wise man leave it an inheritance to his children's children to the third generation but I don't think there is no rich man that can make a lot of millions for taking care of generation on to the third generation so one generation will come and mess things up and it will not go to the other generation so it is not what he live for you but what he lives in you so where you are working it is not what you earn in a month but what has been impacted in you the experience you are working with this rich man what have you learned from him that is an inheritance because the salary can only pay your bills and all that but now after you leave him find yourself doing what he was doing what did you learn from him it is called an inheritance what impartation have you received it is called an inheritance that's why whoever you serve you have the potential to build what is on their life wow I think that's very profound you get the value that gets in you not what they just had you giving you at the end of the month and that's how you are able to build your company if you are faithful you have to just get into their head get into their mind and that's much more valuable than the salary and maybe that can even help you look under payment at that particular workplace I think that's very nice also let me just get it you said now let me get it so something on understanding understanding the windows so these are ideas, revelation, visions dreams and doors to you know to have opportunities if you can put it like that so please look forward we have to understand that God does not open doors God gives us window and the windows he gives us lead us to our doors alright let me put it this way many Christians are paying their tite the reason why people are even complaining the Bible says you pay your tite and he will open the windows of heaven and poor blessing so somebody is going to put his tite on Sunday comes up and looking up to heaven looking for a hole to be created so that something will drop in their house no God when we talk of window we are talking of ideas we are talking of visions we are talking of dreams so these are the things if you are praying for God to give you a financial breakthrough or give you money God will not give you money God will give you idea to make the money so God I want this money I want you to bless me God will give you an idea how to sell these things maybe buy earrings sell them online maybe buy this go to this place buy these things and begin to sell them but because us or many Christians or many youth do not have the patience to grow they are like no distant when when we are distant but you have to start from somewhere so these are the opportunities you finish school you are looking for a job somebody needs somebody to just sit at their desk receiving calls for them but they are going to give you pay that is very little that is a window window and when you embrace that that one can lead you to a door it will lead you to a bigger opportunities so the small things we receive we get that we do not value these are the things that can lead us to major doors that we are praying for wonderful so it's the little things that you may take for granted that may lead you to the door we've had stories of someone who's worked I know we know the story of someone who's worked as a soldier security guard because he understood the operations of that company it just started as a window and you've also spoken of the ideas start a business somewhere and you take that for granted you think the process is so long maybe you need so much money maybe you can even speak on this for people that are into business maybe not career we should talk about business on Tuesday now that you've already alluded to it for those ideas can you ensure that you grow it without giving up giving excuses I don't have money I don't have resources and everything you don't need money to start a business you need your ideas one day I was talking to a certain lady and she said I want to start a business and I said okay so how much do you need I need like 1 million to start a business and I'm looking at her you have not even handled 10,000 shellings before God is a wise investor and he will not invest in you to waste the money he has given you so if you even the parable of the talent he gave one, five another he gave two another he gave one he is not God being partial but he gives base on your ability to handle so if you are starting a business you don't need something big to start I have a friend who is more like a brother in Ghana and he told me how he deals with laptop import them from eBay, UK, US and sells them and he told me 2000 shellings he bought first of all hard drive just one hard drive sold it, got profit put all but many people the moment they get small profit they think we have arrived now can go and eat some KFC but you see when the business is young you invest more than taking from it it's like a baby baby is still young small crying you cannot send a child he can't do anything for you mostly you be doing things for him until they grow too now pick this remote take this water from the fridge so that is how business starts when it is young it needs a lot so any profit you get has to go back to the business until it matches to a stand even if I remove 10,000 today I will still not get lost but if you begin to eat whilst it is still young it will not grow and that is when people give up we should nurture the business if you have an idea then nurture it before you start reaping the benefits from it before we put the clothes on this conversation you've spoken about God speaks through ideas we've talked about God so much and some people some are Christians some not what do you mean by God will speak to you how does God speak to you through an idea how do you hear from God maybe you can just touch on that one thing I know before I even touch on that we should know that every invention is God's idea what have been Facebook YouTube whatever phones is God's idea because the Bible says in the last day knowledge shall increase and so God gives ideas and you might not know how to hear God but you see one day you sleep have a dream that oh I'm doing this and you wake up and you have so much passion for it that is God speaking to you you walk out there saw something and that thing caught your attention until for past week you have still been thinking about it God is speaking to you you might not hear audible voice but some of the things also from a place of mentorship can also help you to know what God is saying so God speaks through dreams speak through circumstances speak through visions if you are not a big some people are not born again yet you find them doing things and you can tell that this one the hand of God is in it because you have to be sensitive and also be somebody who easily act on what they feel in their heart because mostly the things that is so much impressing in our heart is the speakings of God because people usually say you just feel it something is saying something told me this is God speaking to us but because we do not know the voice of God and all that so you will say or something spoke to me no I was doing this and something told me no do that one this is God speaking to me okay awesome so I think that is a good place to put your clothes on it let you say something to the youth maybe something that we have not such on that you want them to know on this particular topic or anything that is your camera you can speak directly okay what I want to say is that in life we need somebody everyone who has risen to a certain level of life need someone so in a place of growing we must be in a place where we can be teach we can be send and we can be trained do not say oh me I don't need anyone me I can survive on my own no you need someone you need someone so with that place when you come to that space it helps you to grow it helps you to find opportunity it helps you to find your feet and we also have to learn to develop a relationship with God because if God created you then He knows your strength He knows your weakness He knows every part of your life so when you do that it helps you also to find where you have come to where I am today because of my close relationship with God you don't have to pray every day but also it is very important to pray not hours but also spending time with God even if it is 2 minutes even if it is 5 minutes start from somewhere somebody was old man of God I cannot pray I don't know how to pray just start from somewhere prayer is a conversation as you talk to your friends the same way you can talk to God and when you do that God will begin to speak back to you and that is how you are going to grow and also what I want to say is that we need to learn act of humility and serving act of humility and serving I remember when I was born again I backslided but when I came back to God I was put in a leader who am far older than and this guy could shout do this but I humbled myself I served him for many years and as we speak now where I am he is not there God has lifted me so sometimes God put us under people for us to learn from do not look at their mistakes do not look at how hard they are being to you but learn from them in as much as they are hard they are good things also you can testify that you can learn from and when we learn to submit and humble ourselves and serve God the Bible says he resists proud and give grace to humble so as we humble ourselves and serve God is able to lift us up wonderful I have forgotten that your minister of God speaking is not a problem wow that has been amazing thank you very much for coming on board and sharing this amazing insights for people that want to reach to reach you maybe make you the mentor or something how can they get you on your platforms okay we are on social media when you go to what I am teaching on windows in a series for the home man touching on windows and doors we have done how to part 4 and next week Sunday we are going to do part 5 you can go there on YouTube triumphant chat international you will find the series there windows and doors it's going to bless your life you will understand how to behave so we are there we are also on Facebook you can also find us on audio mark prophet Victor and also you can find us on Instagram prophet Victor and then number we have a chat number you can reach anytime you call you will have to talk to me it is 0755 01881 075501 881 any time that you call this number you will be able to get in touch with me and will help you and I know that you will be blessed thank you very much once again triumphant chat international at prophet Victor and the number that has just been given thank you for staying with us through this conversation I hope you have taken something from it that even as a Christian as someone in faith that you still ought to step out and act and work and look for opportunities because they are there create one if it's not within your vicinity if you can't locate it that has been Kariya now we are going to take a short break and then brand sakwa will be coming up next with the next conversation so stick with us