 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Libre podcast. I think this is episode four. It's been a while since I did a Libre podcast, but this is gonna be the new and improved one because I have a co-host now, Mike. Yeah. People may already know who I am. If you're alive, they're a long time. They'll know. If they're long time watchers of the channel and more specifically if they watched the archery content that I made on YouTube before the cops and Boston shut that down. I don't think I've ever talked about that publicly before. You know what, that's actually what we're talking about. We were talking about that now? Yeah, especially now that I don't live there and so it's not really a doxing risk or anything. Maldon PD constantly coming out to, well, see it's not even their fault, right? Because where I was living up North is, I guess a relatively nice neighborhood. Like it's not the nicest neighborhood. It's not the highest like, you know, end highest income bracket or whatever, but it's a pretty nice place. So the police don't have that much to do out there. And so when someone calls them, especially if they're, because I never got a recording of the 911 calls, but you know, black man with a bow, you got to show up to that. Yeah, I don't know if it was a 911 call because if it was 911, like you would've, yeah, you would've had the fire department and ambulance there too. Right, right. So non-emergency calls. I'm concerned because there's a bearded brown man, there's ISIS with a bow. Hamas is here with a bow. Right, yeah, Hamas, that's right. We got to be contemporary. Hamas is here with a bow and I feel threatened because he's shooting a target in like, in a field. I mean, it's a cemetery, but it's not like, it's not like someone's grandma is there. The youngest person in that cemetery probably died in the early 1800s. Yeah, it's like a revolutionary war cemetery. So no one's been buried there in like 200 of the years. Yeah, no one's been buried there. Nobody really goes in there. I mean, I guess maybe some teenagers will go in there at night to like drink or smoke weed or whatever. But in the middle of the daytime, no one's there. And we also had a backstop because even, what was it, the sergeant? That was the whole point. Yeah, when the sergeant came out, I don't think you were there when the sergeant came out. That was the last time I was allowed to shoot in there, but he came out and he's like, yeah, you have like a six or seven foot backstop, like a little dirt hill behind it. So there was no danger, but yeah, we would get the police called on us so many times. Mike had to come out. Mike had to be, you know, a designated white man for safety reasons. It's not even like they would tell us to go away. Like they would just come out and like just watch us shoot for like a minute and a half. Well, those were the cool ones. Yeah, cause there were some cops that like they really don't give, they don't really care. But the last time that I was able to do it, there was a guy that came in and he actually talked to me over the intercom, his like little, you know, inside his car. And he was like, stop doing that. So I put my bow down and asked him like, I can't do this. And he's like, no. And I said, why not? And I think I'm, I probably name dropped like two or three other cops. Cause at this point I had the names and the business cards of almost every cop that was at Maldon PD. And so I'm asking them, you know, are you sure I can't do this? Cause I'm not, I'm not hurting anybody. It's not, it's not like this is really dangerous or anything like that. I have the backstop, et cetera, et cetera. So he's like, let me call the sergeant, right? So Sarge comes out and agrees with me about that. But here's what I didn't know. So behind the scenes, the chief of police for Maldon, city of Maldon was changing. Cause that guy that goes to our gym, that older dude that always wears the, well your gym now, it's not my gym anymore, but yeah, that was the old chief. And the new chief was, I wanna say Conan was his name cause he was a captain before. And then he became the chief. And he said that he didn't want me doing that anymore because of the amount of people that call. And my whole thing was like, why don't you tell these people that they're idiots that they're like, cause here's the thing, right? So it's, you know, me and him were arguing over the phone about this a little bit, about how it's a dangerous projectile or whatever like that. I was like, look man, there's people that play golf at not that place, but the dog park. People go to the dog park and they would treat that like a, basically like a driving range cause there's no holes or anything like that. It's just you hit the golf ball out into, just out into wherever. And that's a much more active place. Like there's a playground there where little kids go play. There's a dog park. There's like soccer field and stuff like that. So there's a much more active place where people are hitting golf balls. And when you're driving a golf ball for one, well, you could probably, you play golf. How far are you slinging a golf ball? So I know what park you're referring to. And like, I don't think they were doing driving. Is that that, you can really hit a ball like at least like 250, 300 yards, you know? If you're like a PGA person, you can get the 350 range. I've seen dudes there, I've seen dudes they're hitting golf balls and like, granted they weren't hitting as hard as they could. Like, so I guess driving isn't the right word, but they were definitely hitting golf balls. And the point I was going to make is I'm pretty sure that my shot placement with a recurve bow is more accurate than they are with a golf ball. Yeah. I mean, they were out there with like a nine iron or like an eight iron, which doesn't go that far, but like, still you could hit someone with that. Yeah. So we were kind of going back and forth. He's like, oh, but an arrow is more dangerous and blah, blah, blah. So yeah, basically it came down to me no longer being allowed to do archery. And that's one of the big reasons that I decided to move down here. I mean, rent was a really big one because my rent went up to like 2,100. So it's a lot cheaper living down here in Virginia. But yeah, just I'm paying all this money to not have any freedom. That's kind of the realization that I had. And well, I would say overall I just wasn't that big of a fan of living in Massachusetts anyway. Yeah. But yeah, this is why I'm preparing to become a refugee. Yeah. Yeah, that's where you guys know Mike from. Let me go to the store, my camera and stuff back. That's where you guys know him from. So he's gonna help me out with the podcast. And he also has a YouTube channel. Well, you recreated your YouTube channel, right? Cause you have the source channel. Yeah. I used to be a source or no. And then I deleted it because I originally wanted it to be like a side job that I just made money from. And then long story short, the feds, not the real feds. So I just went federal agency, offered me a bag and I was like, okay, cool. And then I had like no desire to make YouTube videos anymore. But then now I kind of do, I want to do more of a parachute. So I made a new channel that I'm going to be uploading less frequent than Zersuto, but I'm still going to be around and doing kind of more chill, like Lewis Rossman, but if he was not always 100% at all. Ha ha ha ha ha. Hey, man. I mean, Adderall is, that's like the, probably the number one drug of the corporate world behind caffeine, you know? Yeah. Wasn't there a guy that we shot arrows with? I cannot confirm or deny Adderall usage on Lewis Rossman's part. I'm just going to slip that out. I don't even know if he does do it, but I just always feel like he's, I just feel like he's always 100% all the time. He's never like. What Mike Menta said is he wants to be Lewis Rossman if he ordered Lewis Rossman on Wish. That's not what I meant to say. He's your Dollar Tree Lewis Rossman with his 720p webcam. You know how old this webcam is, is that it still has the old Logitech logo. Like the one that looks like that, like that Native American symbol. Without the G that's split on, I don't know, I have a Logitech cam too, but. Yeah. I've had this since like 2016 and I've never used it. Tisk, tisk, well now it's getting some good usage, right? It is, yeah. And if you actually do end up becoming Lewis Rossman from Wish and make it some money with content creation, you can, I guess it's not a tax write-off since you didn't buy it this year, but you can get a new one that's modern and. They're probably cheap nowadays, aren't they? They are, they're like less than a hundred bucks. I sent you, I sent you links a couple of weeks ago. I didn't get a GoPro. The Zoomer ended up sending me a GoPro, finally. Nice. Yeah, the Repair, because you were already selling stuff on eBay, right? Yeah. There might be somebody out there with a mic computer, a refurbished mic computer, but you could try selling them on base.win. I think that you might be able to offer maybe a better win-win because I've never sold anything on eBay, but I think there were some things you were saying, telling me about how, what was it? When you're a seller on eBay, apparently it's easy for customers to buy stuff from you and then return it way later, and it's basically, and you have to pay the shipping, something like that? Yeah, the buyer gets a lot of preference in those transactions, so they can claim X, Y, and Z doesn't work, and if you dispute it, eBay is more likely to align with the buyer than the actual seller, and it's really, I mean, eBay's usually pretty high. How much of a percentage do they take? Because I mean, obviously they take a percentage since they're giving you a selling platform. I think it's like 12.5. What? 12.5. 12.5, yeah. That's a lot. It is. That's more than 10%, that's too much. And the better part of selling on base.win is I can actually install Linux on it, like I have to install fucking Windows on these laptops. Really? You can't sell Linux laptops? I can. I can. But no one will buy it, because normies, yeah, it's all normies on, fuck it. And people are gonna be buying Linux on eBay. Well, actually, one thing I have seen on eBay is I've seen a couple people selling Libre booted thinkpads on eBay. Yeah, I actually just got a huge crate of thinkpads. I had a family friend who's been in, I don't know if it's government, some sort of government agency, not like a real government agency, but like a government adjacent agency like myself for fucking four years. So your CIA uncle dropped off a crate full of thinkpads. She had like a bankers box full of thinkpads. Yeah, like a bankers box full of thinkpads. So if you want to buy some, what if it was a power PC? One of them was a fucking power PC. So if you guys want to buy some totally not backdoored thinkpads from base.win that have been refurbished. I'm a Libre with them anyway. Some totally not backdoored Libre booted thinkpads from base.win. I should, before your audience thinks that I'm a fed, I should say that I'm not directly working for the feds. I work for those government adjacent. No, but you're on to us, but you're on to us. We met up in Langley for coffee. So your aunt is definitely CIA and has totally backdoored those thinkpads. But anyway, his, so I don't forget if I mentioned it already, but his YouTube channel is called the employed Linux user. Yes. Okay, awesome. So let's start getting into what we have news-wise today, content-wise. As you guys know, Hamas attacked Israel. How many weeks ago was that now? Two or three weeks ago? Seems like it's been maybe- Yeah, two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago on the weekend, yeah. Yeah, so they did this attack on the weekend and there were a number of things about it that I guess Israel just wasn't ready for because Israel's got this Iron Dome defense system which is primarily calibrated for rockets and things like that, not a dude on a paramotor. So- Yeah, they didn't account for the Fortnite strategy. Yeah, they did account for the Fortnite strategy where just a guy on a, I saw the video of it on maybe CNN or something like that. It's like a guy decked out with some military gear and apparently those paramotors, they can carry like 500 pounds on them. Yeah, that's the same kind of shit they use in the, in like the Bayou's and the swamps of Florida, down south, like those, what do they call them, pond skippers or like- Well, this was- I'm pretty sure this was a paramotor. So a paramotor, to my understanding, it's basically a lawn chair with a giant fan on the back. Yeah, isn't that the same fan they use on those like pond skippers? Like it's like basically like a floating piece of wood and they have like a giant fan on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so it's like that, but you know, in the air instead of aquatic, it has like a parachute, that's how you fly, is this fan like catches air into your parachute and it's probably the cheapest, what's the word, like cheapest aviation vehicle? Like if you're like, I want to be a guy who flies and you're like hang gliders aren't good enough, you know, squirrel suits aren't good enough because that only works if you, I think it's the cheapest and simplest aviation vehicle that launches from the ground. That's probably an accurate statement. Apparently- And ironically, it is probably the stealthiest too because it doesn't actually, because you're flying it- I don't think it's the stealth. No, no, no, no, no, no. At least from, at least from a, at least from like a, an accurate point of view because you're flying at a pretty low altitude. So you're not gonna come up on a radar. Well, he has a thing- I mean, you're gonna be easily seen from the ground but if they're not expecting you, then you at least have some lead time because they won't see you on a radar. But if they do see you, you're gonna get blown out of the sky pretty easily. It's the perfect example of, you need to have the right tool for the job, right? Historically, what Hamas does is they get rockets, right? They get missiles and some stuff like that that I don't know, they probably buy it from Russia or China or wherever. They get it on the dark web with Bitcoin. And they shoot these rockets into Israel. But Israel, like I said, has the Iron Dome which really is American technology. So, you know, it's top notch and it shoots those rockets down very efficiently. And apparently it's like, if you're like, I guess a teenager, like you're in your 20s in Israel, a romantic thing to do is to take your date out onto a ledge and watch the Iron Dome because it's like fireworks or whatever. You know, it's one of those things where when the Iron Dome, people in Israel are so confident in the Iron Dome that when it's shooting down these rockets, they're apparently just pretty chill there. It's like Californians when an earthquake happens or people in Boston when there's a blizzard. It's like, oh yeah, it's just another day. But it's not calibrated for a dude on a pair of motor. But as far as stealth goes, if they would have had, you know, this is a probably multi-billion dollar system. If you just have a few good old boys that have duck hunting equipment, like they have their shotguns with bird shot. Oh, they could fuck a boss up, man. They would be shooting them down. Literally that dude, if I saw that dude flying over my farm, he would be fucked. Oh yeah, that was like Alabama. I could shoot him down so easily. Like now it's just been a normal day of duck shooting. Cause paramotors aren't very fast. They go, how fast are they anyway? We should, you should Google it real quick. Is it loud? Is it paramotors? Okay. Yeah, how fast does it go? I mute myself. Yeah, it's your loud ass. Don't worry about it. I bet a paramotor doesn't go faster than 20 miles per hour. According to a CRX, it's between 25 and 30 miles per hour. Okay. And, and you know what? I just remembered too, that's probably- They can, more advanced paragliders can reach up to 50 miles per hour by engaging the trim and speed bar systems. And I bet you that speed, when it says 25 to 30, I bet you that's their speed when they're diving, like going down. I bet you if they're flying, if they're flying flat or if they're trying to gain altitude, I bet you it's not even that fast. So there's, and if you were flying over my, I mean, I'm just thinking about how my farm's laid out. The trees are so high that, you know, if you're coming in, you gotta go in. And if I shoot you, there's no way to get back up and clear those trees. So yeah, they just did not have the right tools for the job. And so they were able to do a terrorist attack that I was reading was something like, it was some order of magnitude larger than 9-11 if you like did it per capita because Israel is a much smaller state. So yeah, they're really pissed. I mean, you gotta think if assuming you were alive during 9-11, I mean, I was a kid, but I remember how, I guess sentiment changed after 9-11 towards like the Middle East and towards like Arab people, Muslim people, everything like that. And yeah, America wanted blood, you know? We were, we literally invaded countries where the guys that did 9-11 weren't even from those countries. Like I'm pretty sure 90% or something like that of the hijackers were Saudi nationals, but we're like, no, we get oil from them. Just just hush hush ignore that. I think part of the problem, I mean, here's my conspiracy theory. Here's my conspiracy theory for the day is Mossad is one of the most advanced intelligence agencies in the world. Like maybe one or two depending on how well you view the FBI. I, well, hang on, not to just- How the fuck do they not see any of this coming? I just want to interject for a second. You talk about how advanced Mossad is. If you look into how they went into South America and fucked up like old Nazis that managed to escape, like, yeah, they've got some good intel. But again, their intel is shared with CIA. And you got to remember, Israel is our greatest ally. Okay, in fact, I'm gonna full screen for this. This is important. Israel is our greatest ally. So yeah, anything that's like CIA wise, any type of US military tech, we give that stuff over to Israel. They test it for us. In a way, I guess that's one of the potential win-wins when we have some new military thing going on, we can just send it like some new military that we want to test. We can send it over to Israel and let them test it for us or let Ukraine test it out for us against the Russians. So yeah, Hamas attacked Israel. They're very pissed off. And this is an example that ties in with big tech of how pissed off they are. This is coming, this is actually, this is Israel getting the EU to bully big tech on their behalf. So this is a letter coming from Thierry Brenton, who is a member of the European Commission. And it says, dear Mr. Musk, following the terrorist attacks carried out by Hamas against Israel, we have indications that your platform is being used to disseminate illegal content and disinformation in the EU. You know, this illegal content thing is interesting. I wonder what exactly they're sending. That's illegal. But anyway, let me remind you that the Digital Services Act sets very precise obligations regarding content moderation. First, you need to be very transparent and clear on what content is permitted under your terms and consistently and diligently enforced around policies. This is particularly relevant when it comes to violent and terrorist content that appears to circulate on your platform, your latest changes in public interest policies that occurred overnight, left many European users uncertain. They're probably talking about that thing where anytime you email Twitter for inquiry, they just hit you back with a poop emoji. Second, you received notices of illegal content in the EU. You must be timely, diligent and objective in taking action or removing the relevant content when warranted. We have from qualified sources reports about potentially illegal content circulating on your service despite lags from relevant authorities. By the way, one thing I'm just gonna interject here because a lot of people have been asking me why I don't sell stuff in Europe on base.win right now. This is part of the reason why. Like it's in a lot of ways what the EU is doing with big tech, like there's some of the things I like, right? So obviously them with Apple, like forcing Apple to use USB-C on their iPhones I think is very based. But if you want to have an online store or any type of online service that caters to EU customers, there's a few more, well, quite a few more checks and balances required than doing it in the US. And it's not necessarily that I can't comply with those checks and balances. It's just way more work that, and I've got a lot of stuff on my plate right now. But anyway, yeah, this is, and a similar thing was also sent to TikTok. So it's interesting how about one week after these events occur, we already have obviously Hamas is trying to spread their propaganda or whatever online. And I'm sure some of it is true because here's one of the things that I've noticed with well, it's not even necessarily a terrorist tactic. I guess it's more of a, maybe guerrilla warfare tactic, but Hamas has, there's innocent people that are living amongst Hamas. And it's not even necessarily the innocent people's choices because what these guys will do is they'll attack a place and then they go hide out in a hospital. And so now it's like, okay, do I destroy this whole hospital and all the little children inside? And then if you do do that, Hamas will be like, oh, look at what they did to the poor innocent children that had nothing to do with it. And they circulated on Twitter. So I wonder if that's part of what they're talking about with the propaganda or if the propaganda is just completely false. It's like 100% fake news that's made up by Hamas. But how quickly they're like, shut it down, okay? We have to shut down this stuff that's going online. And probably part of it is because everyone's getting their news sources from online now, right? Like if you can make something go viral on Twitter, it's so much more effective than getting something to go on CNN or getting something on Fox News. Lots of knock bombs are for the only country in the world uses knock bombs. Yeah. It's a quote one of my favorite YouTubers. First bomb means get out. Second bomb means get out now. Third bomb means your fault. Oh, I didn't know there were three bombs. I thought you just got two. You just got the one. I think there's two to three depending on it. Right. And you're talking about when Hamas is bombing. Yeah. Yeah, different places with probably US drones. I don't know. I kind of agree with you on the EU. I think that you do some good stuff, but some things they take way too far. They're like trying to be the cyber police. Well, it's like this check control thing, right? So the EU is, they're looking to approve essentially the end of private messaging and secure encryption because their whole thing, and this is something the US does a lot too, where there's these encrypted messaging apps, telegram, signal, there's all these different things, and people do use them to commit crime, right? There's obviously there's like phishing and stuff like that, although honestly, I don't think phishing and scams are necessarily as big a deal, but one is a CSAM distribution. That's something that I always hear Predator catchers talking about on telegram. And it's the nature of these technologies is such that unless you make mistakes in other places, then it's really hard to catch somebody or it's really hard to prove it, right? Like if the police arrest somebody and they don't unlock their phone or they don't unlock their signal chat, it becomes really difficult to prove anything that you have against people. And actually, this is exactly what it says in the second paragraph of this. So to find a majority for this unprecedented mass surveillance, the EU Council presidency proposed Tuesday that the scanners, so with these scanners, they're talking about scanning things in your app, and they only really work if they're able to scan things unencrypted, it would search all private messages and photos for suspicious content and report it to the EU. And, well, they were saying in order to get the support, they were saying that, oh yeah, we're just going to scan for CSAM. That's it. Now, I did a video talking about how scanning for CSAM is a very slippery slope and here's the problem. Any model that you can create to, well, there's actually a couple of problems. So first is any model that you can accurately create to scan for CSAM is going to be very easy to adapt to scan for firearms or if you have, say something is made illegal, right? Like if we go back to prohibition and we want to make alcohol illegal, you can very easily see like, oh yeah, does somebody have a beer in this photo? And now you can mark that as illegal activity. And the second issue that you run into with CSAM and this has been an issue in almost every system where I've seen it implemented, like I'm pretty sure OneDrive does automatic CSAM scan. So does Dropbox. Pretty much every cloud storage, like mainstream cloud storage is going to scan for CSAM. And one of the issues is you'll have stuff that isn't CSAM that gets flagged. And with CSAM in particular, that's one of those things where even if you're just accused of it, it really ruins your reputation, okay? If you're not guilty, right? So if you're, what's the word? When you're suspected, right? So you can be detained, okay? And you can even be arrested and put in jail and they're like, we're gonna do your investigation. But if it comes out that you're in jail for CSAM possession, that's something where those fellow inmates or fellow people in the holding cell, they might beat you up or possibly even kill you. So it's a really serious matter. And I personally don't think doing automatic scams or automatic scans for CSAM is an effective way to stop it. What I personally think is more effective in a lot of ways, Big Tech is kind of shutting it down and against this are the private sector predator catchers. So these are people like, I mean, it's even hard to name them because their channels get banned on YouTube all the time. But there's one guy, I think his channel is PP Southeast Texas. I think his name's Alex, I forget his real name. But anyway, he goes by the name Gordon Flowers. And he's doing his videos. But guys like this are full-time, like I'm pretty sure he makes enough money to do it full-time or at least I hope he does. They've got decoys that are in Discord. They're on Instagram, they're on Snapchat. They're on all these different platforms pretending to be a little kid. And with AI, it's apparently really easy to do that. I mean, you could probably take a picture of either one of us and make us into a little boy, possibly even a little girl, right? And we can pretend to be a little kid on Instagram. And the thing is, in most states, just talking to a child that someone you suspect to be a child. So it doesn't even matter if it's really a kid or not. If I get on, you know, IG, right? And I'll be a cute little girl and you message me and you're like, hey, how are you? And I'm like, I'm good, I'm 12 by the way. And you sent me a dick pic, that's illegal. It doesn't matter that I'm really a dude in his 20s. You sent who you suspected to be a little kid, that. And obviously the intense there. So these guys, they will gather all this evidence on someone and they will get this person to actually try to meet up with a child, who they suspect is a child. And then they do this kind of Chris Hansen style talk. Although I really feel like that guy, Alex, is, he's like a master of social engineering because I've seen him do these catches where he kind of pretends to be their friend and it'll start off where somebody is denying everything. They're like, oh no, that's not even me on Instagram. My account got hacked. And then towards the end of it, he's got him admitting to everything. He's like, oh yeah, I've also got these hard drives at home with all this cheese pizza on it. And then the police come and it's so satisfying when the police come because they walk in. I actually gotta send you some of these because you'll probably get a kick out of these. The cop shows up and he's like, hey guys, what's going on here? We got a call and Alex would be like, yeah, so we're here with Chester and you just got a little bit of child porn on your phone, right Chester? Like 10 or 15 pictures and they're right there in your gallery, right? And you got a few on Telegram. He's like, yeah, and this is your phone here, right? And I didn't change anything on your phone, right? Okay. And he's just hands the cop over to him. I forget what his percentages are. I think he has like maybe a 50% arrest rate. It really depends on where you go because I've seen some, like I saw one where he was in California and I mean, the laws as far as protecting kids in California, apparently are a big joke. You have to, I think you have to be in the kid for it to be illegal. They have to catch you. And they catch you in the act. They have to catch you in the act or like some shit like that for it to be illegal. And talking and all that crap is just like whatever. San Francisco PD just doesn't want to deal with it. But I personally think that is a way more effective method at stopping the distribution of CP and definitely stopping the distribution of people meeting up with kids is these people who are in the private sector cause I don't think cops really set up these things that much anymore or if they do, they only do it with big name people like Chris Hansen. And you know, I mean, Chris, he's still doing his thing. He's got like a new to catch a predator thing, but he can only do so many episodes, right? When you have this decentralized content creation thing where people can make to catch a predator content and actually make money off of doing it and do it in an honest way, I think it's a really good thing, but you two keeps banning these people. Alex has been banned a number of times. Someone else I used to watch called Colorado Pet Patrol, I think got banned, but apparently he did a tax scam. He was saying that- Yeah, I think he was saying his whole predator catching operation was a non-profit and it very much was a for profit. And he got in a little bit of trouble there. But what are your thoughts? I mean, you're kind of on the same page as me. Yeah, speaking of the hashing algorithms that are used like in cloud storages, I remember talking about this last year, is Apple rolled it out in August of 2021. And the problem with an algorithm like this is that you can have hash collisions between a picture that's actually sees him like a picture of someone's dog. I don't think Apple necessarily did theirs with hashes exactly, but it is still relevant though. If you're doing it that way, then yeah. It wasn't like one of the, yeah, it was their own one algorithm, but it was still a hash. And within like two weeks, someone found a hash collision that it was already possible. So that's a possibility too, is that the algorithm can flag something that actually isn't seesam because of a hash collision. And that can lead to some consequences that should not happen. And the AI stuff, even if you get AI, because AI is so popular now to analyze these images and try to figure out whether it's seesam or not. Because hashes is only gonna work for known seesam, like stuff that's been floating around. Yeah, that's your problem too. Is it the feds have to have a database somewhere? Well, that's a thing. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's even open source. The hashes because that way, because if you're running like an image board or something like that, you've got to have some mechanism to stop people from just spamming CP. Yeah, but how'd they get the hashes in the first place? From people's hard drives. Yeah, they have to, I'm saying, they probably have a database of photos somewhere. Well, of course they do. Well, of course they do. The FBI ran Playpen for like two weeks. And during the time that they ran Playpen, they actually made it way more popular. I think the user base increased by about 500%. And for those of you that don't know, Playpen was a seesam site that was on the dark web. They had arrested the guy, but they seized, instead of seizing the server and just putting up the, this has been seized by the FBI, they migrated it to their high bandwidth servers. And their headquarters or wherever. And I don't have like hard facts to back this up, but I just know how, I know to some extent how sites on like marketplaces on the dark web work. And your user base does not magically increase by 500% without advertising somewhere. Now I don't know where they would advertise at since it's a seesam platform. And I'm pretty sure DRED doesn't allow you to like advertise seesam, but like on DRED for example, when a marketplace wants to really start pumping their numbers up or like a new person comes into town, you pay the admins at DRED, which is dark web Reddit, a bunch of money, a bunch of Monero. And yeah, they'll advertise that for you. So I don't know where there is, there's one, well, I'm not gonna name it, but there's one search engine that was on the dark web that accepted CP ads or seesam ads because they would put it at the top of your, and it was so annoying because you could search for something that had nothing to do with CP, nothing at all. And yet your first result just like in Google when they show you the ad results, first thing would be CP. It's like, wow, okay. I don't really want this, a link to CP being on my screen, but I'm pretty sure that the Feds contacted some service on the dark web that's like a CP ad service and probably sent them a bunch of Bitcoin and Monero to advertise that. So not only did they further exploit children by running that site themselves, but they probably enriched some pedophiles as well in the process. So, yeah, it seems like- It's not your average Tuesday for the FBI? Yeah, right, pretty much. Oh, and I almost forgot the point I was gonna make about AI. So AI scanning for, let's call it new seesam, right? Stuff that doesn't have a dashboard existing. How do you get your AI to look at something and recognize that it's seesam? Because I've seen AI look at something like a cat and say that it's a dog. You know what I mean? Cause you gotta think about it, right? With seesam, you have to know that it's a kid, right? That it's, or at the very least, that it's someone under 18. Cause that's the rules for the U.S. And with some people that might be border wide, you know, where you can't really tell if it's someone that's of age or underage. And then you've got other stuff like, what do they call it, lowly? They've got that stuff where it's cartoons. And so cartoons are- Actually, she's 2000 years old, Kenny. She's 2000 years old. Right, she's 2000 years old, right. So you've got that stuff where because it's drawn, it's not illegal because there wasn't a, you know, there wasn't an actual child that was exploited. But what if you're a really good artist? How does the AI know that you're not a really good artist? So yeah, like just automatically scanning people's photos, I think you're gonna end up with false positives, which like I explained earlier, false positive with CSAM is, it could lead to your death if you end up in a jail cell or that. I don't think it's gonna bring more harm than good. That's pretty much my summary on that. There's gotta be some sort of manual review process, right? If you get flagged for CSAM and it's obviously a picture of your daughter. Well, it's funny you bring that up because on Facebook, they have manual reviews for that. And there's been a number of stories about the moderators on Facebook, basically getting PTSD from the amount of just abuse material that's out there. And I think it checks out because I know you don't really listen to the predator catchers that much but I do and to be honest with you, like I know I mentioned Telegram, but a lot of the time these guys don't even end up using encrypted apps. I would say nine times out of 10, these people that are grooming kids that are sharing CP with one another, distributing CP, they're doing it on like the ClearWeb on the surface web. They're doing it on Facebook, they're doing it on Instagram, they're doing it on Twitter and sure, these people probably get caught but see it also depends on where they're from because if you're like in, I don't know, Honduras, I'd imagine it's probably illegal to distribute CP in Honduras and maybe their age of consent is really low but it's Honduras, like there's dead people in the streets, there's rampant crime, like there's so much other stuff that the authorities there are probably focused on that they might not, like even if Facebook is like here's this guy's IP, here's his address, I don't even know if the authorities wouldn't necessarily do anything about it, so all they can do is ban you on Facebook but then you come back. So yeah, I think that that stuff is really, really rampant and so that's another reason why the end user device scanning the completely outlying encryption isn't even necessary to catch 99% of this. If Facebook and Instagram and, apparently Twitter has shut it down to a large degree. I haven't really looked into it and verified it too much but I remember that was one of the main things Elon Musk was talking about when he took over Twitter is that CSAM distribution was rampant and he claimed that they have shut it down for the most part. Yeah, I think part of the problem is that there's just a shit ton of content out there. Like have you heard of that shipping on YouTube? Not like actual CSAM, but like, you know, soft. Not like actually, I don't like CSAM but like sort of like soft core porn being on YouTube. Like if you search certain keywords. Oh yes, yes. Yes, I have heard of that. Yeah, I think I actually made a video about that. Yeah, I haven't checked but you're saying it's silly. Cause, okay, so that's a perfect example, right? Where big tech is just dropping the ball so some ordinary gamer, you know, Muda did a video about this. I might have done a video about it. It's foggy in my memory cause if I did do a video about it, it was over a year ago and yet it's still a problem on YouTube. Even after changing ownership, Susan is no longer in charge of YouTube. It's a Neil Mohan, right? Neil's not fixing it either. I don't think it's a problem with the sheer amount of stuff that's on there. Yeah, it's probably much more than that. I've heard something that's uploaded every minute. Wasn't it something like 15 minutes of content is uploaded every minute to YouTube? Yeah, something like that, probably even more than that. But you can, I mean, come on, people are reporting it, people make videos about it. Like, and there's even been groomers that are on YouTube. There was a guy, and I remember watching his catch who was, he was in Hawaii and it was one of these deals where he was trying to say he's like the second coming of Christ or something like that. And, you know, when you're the second coming of Christ, God always tells you that you need to have like four or five underage girls as your wives cause that's just what you do. And so this guy was in Hawaii trying to basically do a David Koresh. And he, but he was actively doing it on YouTube. Like he's making these videos, like looking in the camera all creepy, like pretending to be Jesus. And he was just on there. Someone, you know, Muda made a video about it. And there was a predator catcher that caught him, but it took a long time after that video for that like exposure video coming out for his channel to actually get banned. In fact, I think he was arrested before he even got banned. So it's like, again, the predator catchers on YouTube are handling this so much better. So at the very least YouTube could stop banning them because obviously the income is the motivation for these guys. I mean, a lot of them probably have some, like I think Tommy, the guy that did the tax scam said that like his son was molested or something like that. So that was part of his motivation, but people want to make money. Okay, so if you cut off, and not to mention, like forget making money, but it's also expensive to do a lot of these catches because Alex travels, he's from, I'm pretty sure Texas, but he's, you know, he's going all over the United States catching these people. So putting gas in the car, paying people because they've got like two or three other guys that are operating cameras and they've got, there's some girls that are like decoys but I think they decoy for a bunch of different people. And so they just, I guess sit on Instagram all day pretend to be a little girl, but you gotta pay them, right? I mean, if you want me or anyone else pretend to be a little girl and talk to, but that's the part that you, I would really want compensation for is talking to these guys because that's creepy as hell, man. Like, can you imagine talking to a dude and he's like flirting with you, he's like, you know, talking to you like that and you're pretending to be a little kid. Like how do you not just cuss him out and be like, dude, you're a sick fuck. I would at some point end up doing that, but I guess you would have to get paid because you have to keep them in line in order for the person to catch them. Yeah. Yeah, you got to be more professional. So look at that. We're not even an hour into the podcast and you already figured out a more effective way to save the children than the entire EU. You only get this at the Libre podcast folks. All right, so our, oh yeah, and this is again, TikTok warned by the EU to shut down Hamas. So going back to the Hamas conversation, this is another news article that made me question the effectiveness of, I guess censoring Hamas on Twitter because when it comes to, or all social media because people fall for this stuff, right? So this is something that was tweeted by a verified person, although verifications don't make any difference these days. It says Israeli helicopter is getting smashed. And this is actually video game footage from ARMA3. Here, we actually have the video. See, second this. Yeah, so this is video game footage and you know, people fall for it. So this is where, I guess it brings up the question of, obviously if you're seeing video game footage and you think it's real, you're a bit of a dunce. You're not the best at looking into stuff and making sure stuff is real. You're probably gonna be the kind of person that haze your taxes and Google play cards when an Indian man calls you and tells you that your car's warranty has expired. Do not redeem, madam. So this is one of those, I guess, moral questions is, you know, we have the internet and we're at the point now where social media like Twitter gets more views than probably every news station combined. In fact, the news is Twitter. Like if you watch CNN or Fox or whatever, they're literally talking about tweets that people posted on Twitter half the time. So this is sort of the informational hub and everybody has a smartphone in their pocket. Most people have a computer yet, you know, it's, we haven't evolved to the point where your average internet user is savvy enough to realize that they're being trolled by ARMA footage. So do we treat the internet like the New Hampshire state motto, live free or die? Do we just let it be laissez-faire? Or do we regulate it? Cause people, cause it's for their own good. You see where I'm coming from? What's the right option? Cause we're too dumb to see some of us are too dumb, we're gonna get scammed. We're gonna look at a Hamas video and we're gonna have our jimmies rustled. It's gonna happen. And it's gonna continue to happen over and over and over again. So I really am a fam of the first method. I don't think that, cause regulation really never solves anything. It just usually ends up creating more problems in the back end. I really think, I mean, you can call me an accelerationist. I think you just let it go and then eventually the people who get scammed constantly will just end up not using social media anymore. Cause they'll just constantly get their jimmies rustled. And the people who are capable of seeing what is fake and what is not will just end up, will just go about their neck and continue using it. I mean, you also, it's not just some random person faking people out with armor footage. I mean, it could be, but you also have state actors that do that shit too. Well, you've got this too. Cause there's probably people in Hamas who are doing that just to rustle jimmies of people on Twitter or something. Well, I think- Even the IDF could be doing that just to get some sympathy or something. Well, but hang on, no, no, no, no. It's not propaganda when Israel does it. They're our greatest ally. It's not propaganda. They're our greatest ally. It's not propaganda. Yeah, I think I'm on the same page. I mean, honestly, I almost see the internet as the reintroduction. It's like digital Darwinism, in a way. Because, and this is actually something I was thinking of earlier today when I was out on my farm, you know, that's when I have my philosophic moments of how when you think of ancient times, well, we have this moral principle of respecting your elders, right? Like it's, I think it's one of the 10 commandments, right? Or no, it's honoring your mother and your father, not necessarily respecting your elders. But this is like a moral principle. It's a religious principle, right? Respect your elders when somebody's older than you. Now, in ancient times, if you were an elder, as in somebody who's, we'll just say over 60, you're probably pretty wise. You're probably a really smart person because in, let's say pre-Rome, right? Before the Roman Empire, you probably would not make it. Most people would not make it to 60. Something's gonna kill you off. Like, even if you get a disease like diarrhea, right? Think about how many people, and this is after the Roman Empire. Think about how many people in the 1700s died from diarrhea or like dysentery. Isn't dysentery basically just severe diarrhea, right? Like you're vomiting or something like that. Yeah, you die due to lots of fluids. Right, lots of fluids. Nobody dies from that in the first world because we all have running water. You know what I mean? Like water is so available and abundant if you're in like a first world or you're in a developed place. So something like dysentery isn't gonna kill you. Food poisoning doesn't really kill people, right? Back in the day it did. Oh, dude, if you ate some bad chicken in like the Roman Empire, that's like getting cancer, bro. Yeah, they believed a lot in like miasma though. It was more like they believed in like the bad air or like bad- Yeah, they didn't know. They had no, I mean, but even, I shouldn't even bring up the Roman Empire because as recently as like the Civil War, doctors thought, doctors didn't wash their hands between surgeries because their logic was blood of the living is a good thing. And so if I smear a bunch of other dudes' blood on you then the chances of you living increase actually, you just gave me all that dudes' STDs. Thanks a lot. Not to mention STDs could kill you. Like what was it, El Capone died from syphilis? Cause if you don't treat syphilis, which by the way, it's a penicillin shot. Okay, like you can, I'm pretty sure you can get penicillin at the pharmacy. If you don't treat syphilis, you'll go crazy. Your brain will just turn to mush and you'll be like, what was he fishing in his swimming pool? You know, crazy stuff like that. So the point is in the modern world, getting to age 60 does not necessarily mean that you're a very smart person. It doesn't mean you're with it. It doesn't mean you're a wise person. So that's to me, respecting your elders was always more about wisdom. And I think this is something that's happening a lot is we have, like it's probably a lot of old people that are falling for these scams, but they're old people who have been old in a world that's on easy mode relative to Roman Empire or even as recently as the 1800s. So a lot of these old people that we have wouldn't have made it in the 1800s because they would have eaten the raw chicken. They would have, or okay, we're talking about scams here, right? There were scams back in the day, but if you fell for them, you know, a lot of the time it was a lot more severe, right? Like if you fall for a fake medicine man, all right, think about how that works. I roll into your town on a horse and buggy and I've got snake oil, right? That's where the term came from, snake oil salesman. Now, who knows what snake oil is, okay? Like I saw a snake in my garden or not my garden, but where I keep my chickens a couple of months ago and he wasn't very oily at all. But they don't have so, I don't know what snake oil is. You know, maybe it's this puddle water. I just poured into my vial real quick and what's that, ma'am? You're pregnant and you want your baby to come out with blue eyes. Take my snake oil and, you know, of course it's probably gonna kill you or make you have a miscarriage or whatever, but we're in horse and buggy days. I'm two towns over at this point. I think more often than not, it was just heroin. Yeah, exactly. It's heroin mixed heroin or some other opioid. Take this snake oil. They should like sugar or something. Take this snake oil, which is a little bit of opium. A little bit of opium. 1800 versions of lean. It's a little bit of opium and formaldehyde mixed with puddle water. The 1800 version of lean. Yeah, so it's like, okay, if you get scammed in the 1800s, you're probably gonna die, but if you get scammed in, even the consequences a lot of the time are not that bad. So to me, it really seems like, I mean, I guess it isn't really Darwinism because if you get scammed it doesn't stop you from breeding. Man, the internet has grown so fast and people's ability to use it just has not kept up. And you know what a lot of it probably was too? In fact, I know that this is what a lot of it was. You know that there were people in the 80s and even the 90s, probably like almost like jock guys, right? Those, you know, jarhead type dudes who were like, oh, look at these pencil neck nerds and their Microsoft DOS sending each other, you know, text in a terminal over ARPANET, these losers. And now these guys run the internet, you know, in some way, shape or form, right? Somebody probably said that about Bill Gates. Yeah. When he was skipping class to play poker with people. And now these guys, they didn't keep up with technology and now they're in their 40s and they're paying for their cars extended warranty with Google Play cards. Yeah, I mean, I don't think big tech or really anybody. So here's how it should go, right? If you manage to have kids, hopefully your kids are in tune enough with this so that they could be like, no grandpa, there's not hot singles in your area, don't click that link. No grandma, don't click the, the, I don't know, coolcatvideos.biz, it's a trick. Don't go there. Don't trust any type of donate. Or like MLMs or something. I feel like that's what, I feel like that's what a lot of women get into, is MLMs, yeah. They get into that multi, mid, or what is it, multi-level marketing? Actually, like, what do my friends like my age got, almost got into an MLM. They almost got hired into an MLM. And he was telling, like, I think we were on, we were at a call one night and he was telling us about it. And we were like, hey bro, this sounds, sounds a bit, a bit sus, just saying it. I read about this one called. Yeah, I mean, I mean, eventually, I mean, eventually like convinced him to get out of it. And then after we researched it, it was an MLM. So it's not just old people falling for it. Like it's still young people, I think more often now, because a lot of them are, they don't have the intuition to like actually read into stuff that you see on the internet, right? Like, you know, you were an eye probably and people who watched this podcast, whenever you see something on your net, you usually don't take it with that much seriousness. Yeah. And then if you want to, you might like double check, like go get the sources and actually go look and see if it's real. Nowadays, like if you go on tech talk and get your news there, which got for a bit, but there's really no way to check sources. So most of the time they just believe it because I don't know, a pretty blonde woman said that it was true. You know, I think you're right. Cause like, well, you're technically a zoomer and I'm a millennial, but I guess, I don't really know. You're like, well, you're kind of a cusper though, cause you're an older zoomer. You're only a few years younger than me. So I really feel like, I'll just say our generation was, and maybe Gen X as well, where like the last two generations that really got deep in technology, right? Cause okay, if you were a Gen Xer and you were in high school, you probably had something like a Commodore 64. My years might be off a little bit, but if you received a Commodore 64 and you learned it, which like you can basically program them yourself down to the hardware, you would have had a really good deal of competency with computers. I mean, that's what Terry Davis, like with Temple OS, that's what he was trying to design is like the modern day Commodore 64. And I'm pretty sure that that was like his first computer, one of his first computers. And like that's how you become the type of dude who builds his own operating system and his own compiler and his own programming language, completely from scratch and actually makes certain improvements on it. Like I believe he improved the performance of like the switch statement in C, which is like, what? You made improvements to C? As one guy, mind you, like and he's not a PhD computer scientist or nothing like that. I mean, I'm sure you had a degree, but you know, holy cow, brilliant. But if you're a Zoomer or if you're, what's after that? I think Gen Alpha or anything after. What's your first computer? An iPhone? You can't even install a custom ROM on an iPhone or like, can you even change your keyboard or run an iPhone? You can change your keyboard. Okay, okay, you can do that. Yeah, it's like, for me, I mean, my first, what was my first computer? I think it was that Acer Aspire laptop. And that was a single core, single thread, 512 megabytes of RAM running Windows Vista. And that poor thing could barely run Windows Vista. So what I had to do, like I think I got that laptop for my birthday and then for Christmas, I ordered a RAM upgrade. Now, for you as a, how old was I? Maybe 10 years old or 11 years old. For you as an 11 year old to figure out what you need to make your computer go faster when playing Runescape, that's a, and it was out of necessity. I mean, the other reason was also because I grew up, like not super poor, but, you know, poor enough to wear a dual core was out of the picture. My dad had a dual core. It was like a, it was some kind of Dell. It was a chunky boy too. And it was like $1,000 for a Core 2 Duo. But, yeah, like I figured out, I figured out that RAM was the best thing to put into my computer to make it go faster. This was pretty much before SSDs and plus RAMs. You didn't shout out more RAM. I actually, I'm pretty sure that was something I looked into, like as, but I'm 10. So, you know, I don't know about it, but it's like, yeah, download more RAM, how to add, cause I didn't know what RAM was. So I had to figure out what RAM was. And then I had to figure out the right kind of RAM. And, you know, I had to figure all this stuff out as a kid. And again, my motivation was make RuneScape go faster so that I don't get immediately killed when I walk into the wilderness and there's more than like four monsters on screen. And, you know, I dropped to like two frames a second. And I mean, hey, that's a heck of a motivator, right? When you're a kid, try to figure out how to make a game go faster. And that same motivation led me to install Windows 7. And, as a, let me think, when did I install Windows 7? Maybe when I was like 13. As a 13 year old, I figured out how to torrent Windows 7 and flash it to a US, a flash drive with the command line, put it into my computer, go into the BIOS, boot from that flash drive and then install Windows 7 myself. And then, man, I tell you, I got like such a hotshot because I had Windows 7 on a flash drive and I was like going around like anytime aunts or uncles or something would come over and like they had a computer and they were complaining about because I'm pretty sure 7 had just come out. And they're like, oh, this VISTA sucks. I'm like, oh, I've got seven. And I'm sure it was probably backdoor Russian malware, but I felt so proud of myself. Figured out how to install Windows 7 on my computer. And then later on, I installed Ubuntu because RuneScape was a game that you played in the browser and they had a client that I think worked on Linux because it's Java, you know, it's a Java game. So why wouldn't it work on Linux? And Ubuntu did not use as much of my RAM on like the desktop. And I actually figured out that I could like disable more stuff because, well, actually, I'm getting ahead of myself. When I was in Windows 7, I had gotten to the point where for gaming on Windows 7, and at this point, I was trying to play Grand Theft Auto San Andreas on the same computer, mind you, single core, single thread processor. At this point, we had two gigs of RAM, no dedicated graphics played San Andreas. And I figured out, well, of course I couldn't play San Andreas on Ubuntu, but I could still play RuneScape better. But yeah, like I had figured out all this stuff on my own just to get better performance in a game. Now if you're a kid and you get an iPhone and you're playing Candy Crush, I mean, there's no necessity. There's no necessity to try to figure out stuff and upgrade it. So yeah, there's this weird gap in I guess technological competency where it's like a bell curve, I guess, right? Where the boomers are like over here and then you've got the millennials and GenX and some of the zoomers in the middle and then, oh boy, if you're GenAlpha and you're, cause GenAlpha I think is, my nephew's GenAlpha and he's I think 11 or 12. So they're starting to become teenagers and I really question how competent they are with the more advanced technology stuff. Plus so much of this is getting outsourced anyway. Like I wouldn't even, I don't even think I would really recommend that my nephew look into IT as a career cause he's got to compete with all of India and I don't think enough corporations are getting burned by outsourcing. Although that new Cisco vulnerability, which isn't even really Cisco's fault. I mean, they enable the web console by default on their switches, which there is an argument to be made against having that in enterprise environment. I mean, you're working in an enterprise environment right now. So are you ever logging into a switch or a router via a web console or are you just doing everything over your terminal like SSH and stuff? Yeah, I do everything over a terminal. I haven't done network admin network since last job. I've only worked on machines but yeah, I do most of my work by a terminal. So yeah, I did too. And whenever we had to like provision these network devices, I would do it over a terminal because I can plug in like, I think we had an eight port switch that was at our desk. So I could plug in eight phones or eight, you know, any whichever device we were provisioning that day and run a script and it would automatically like, you know, upload this any file and then flash it. And it's so much faster than what some of the other people, I mean, there were some people that use the script once I told them about it because they're more comfortable on the command line but other people would just go through a web console and they would actually just plug in. So they would plug in say a phone or something like that directly to their computer and then flash the any files on it and then they would also go in and say, if the customer, some customers would want us to customize their DNS settings. So then you go in, you set like 8.8.8 for the DNS server. And then, you know, you got to wait for it to finish and then you unplug it. They would do that manually. And I would just be here, you know, okay, run the script and then I'm gonna pretend like I'm working for the next two hours because that's how long it's gonna take you to flash all those phones or all those app netters or whatever manually. Do you do that as well? Do you have any of your colleagues that are just super slow when you just kind of match their pace while you goof off at work a bit? Yeah, I mean, I only work with all of a guy. So I have to basically, I'm like an IT person for engineers. So I have to deal with like pretty high levels of autism already, but. You know, one of your guys uses Emacs, right? Yeah, dude. That's the one that I hate about engineers. It's like, they're so fucking specific about what they want. Like, I shit you not. We have like, I think four or five supported different text editors because like one or two people are like, I've used this text editor for 40 years and I want to keep using it. It's like, motherfucker, just use like them or Emacs or some shit. Like, I don't want to have to support Emacs because you're asked to go learning how to use them. So it's, yeah, I've been there where I have to just automate shit and I just end up acting like I'm gonna work. Like I just automated all the passion on my machines and then I don't have to do it manually anymore. I can't wait till a new guy comes in and he demands to use Ed. What was it? I have a guy who use, I mean, we use like VS Code, Vim, Emacs, right? To use them. I had one guy asked for like edit which is like this super ancient, not ancient, it's still updated but like it's been around for a while. So we had to go out and like actually get that and support it and it was like, why do all this work when you can just use Vim and customize the key bindings? That's wonderful. Yeah. All right, so getting back to our heckin' tech news, man. We went on so many tangents there. Hamas is apparently really good at making propaganda because they can just clip ARMA and say it's them shooting down Israeli helicopters. I hope they clip some COD footage and say they have a nuke. But here's what Hamas is not very good at guys. They're bad at crypto. They're real, real bad at crypto. So this is actually something I posted to my Instagram which was a risky post looking back because they might have thought that I'm promoting terrorism. But I posted this, so apparently there were these posters that were going up around the Gaza Strip and in other places where like, I think they were some in Turkey and some other places where you might suspect a lot of terror or Hamas sympathizers to live. And they're basically posters telling people to donate in Monero to a Monero address and the clip of the posters I had were censoring the Monero address. But you know, to me, what I posted on Instagram was that it was a bullish signal that terrorists have figured out Monero but they haven't figured out the crypto fundamentals. Not your keys, not your coins. Israel grows a hundred Binance accounts over suspected Hamas links and authorities have requested information on some two other crypto accounts. So, you know, these guys, I'm not sure if it's Hamas's actual crypto wallets or if it's people that have just been donating to Hamas via Binance. But I mean, this is insane. Why on earth would you go through a custodial wallet to send crypto to what the media is called a terrorist, okay? Like regardless of how you see the Israel-Palestine conflict, I mean, I'm fairly neutral on it. I don't care, I'm American, but the media, right? The rest of the world sees these guys as terrorists. And in almost every country, if you are suspected of funding terrorists, they've got something like the Patriot Act, which means you don't get a trial, you don't get, you have no rights. Men in a van come to your house, they put a hood over your head, throw you in the back of that van and you wake up in, you know, a place like Guantanamo Bay, one of those places where it's like, this is US soil, but it's technically not US soil, so you don't have any, all those rules where we can't torture you, that's gone, that's gone now. We can do whatever we want to you in order to get answers about you funding your terrorism. Why, why would you do something like that through a medium that required you to scan your real photo ID and give them your real social security number? I mean, this is a requirement of buy and answer, I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of almost every other non-decentralized crypto exchange. I mean, gosh, see, this is why I don't worry too much about like these high level compromises that people talk about, like Tor getting compromised or like one of the Monero devs, the Monero project getting compromised because it's so much easier to just do this. It's so much more likely that your adversary, if you're like the CIA or not Hamas but like Mossad or whatever, it's so much more likely that their adverse areas are gonna make really stupid mistakes like this and they can just call up Binance and freeze their accounts. And of course Binance is gonna do it because Israel is their greatest ally as well. I mean, are these accounts that, are these all, like were they people who sent money to Hamas or was it just people who received Monero? Well, let me read what they're saying here. Binance confirmed to CoinDesk last week that it was working with Israeli authorities to block terror financing. The firm told the Financial Times they had blocked a small number of accounts on the platform but declined to say how many. And then this is a quote from Binance. We are deeply saddened by the events in the Middle East. As always Binance follows internationally recognized sanctions rules blocking the small number of accounts linked to illicit funds. We wish for a swift and peaceful end to the conflict and the safety of all innocent civilians. So I had to think of your Hamas, right? You gotta have someone who has at least some decent level of knowledge of cryptography and cryptocurrency, right? I mean, they have fired missiles, right? They obviously people who know how to handle ballistics, you people who can post social media like they have people who are dedicated to like recruiting people on social media. So you have people who are technologically capable doing that shit. So I'd like to think that they have someone who can do that shit. Well, they had that kid. Well, this wasn't Hamas, this was ISIS. They had- Oh, wasn't that the kid who built this on rocket? No, no, no, no, no. I was gonna talk about the kid that was trying to build, was that he was trying to make a custom Linux distribution for using Gentoo for ISIS? Oh, right. I remember that story. Yeah, so they arrested their guy. Yeah, their IT guys in jail. That was the one guy. That was like- You could have just went to the fucking Gentoo wiki. But they don't know about, that's my point. The terrorists don't know about the Gentoo wiki and the one terrorist sympathizer that was technologically literate enough to probably help them with but narrow it using private wallets got arrested. So yeah, but then again, that doesn't necessarily mean that he knows a lot about crypto. Cause even cryptocurrency itself and how to use cryptocurrency is not necessarily something that you would be. It's kind of its own thing. And so many people seem to mess it up. I mean, I don't, I wonder if they know about DRED. Cause that's probably the best resource where it's an all in one place to get really, really good privacy tips about using crypto to get tips about tails or cubes of S and like learn about all this stuff in one spot. I don't know if they're on DRED though. They probably never heard of it. Yeah, going back to the technological competency of generations, I think that's part of the problem is a lot of apps nowadays focus on convenience over customizability or modularity. Oh yeah. Cause like back in the day when you had like an app like say like IRC, right? Compared to Discord, right? There was much more modularity with IRC and how you could handle it cause it was, the clients were pretty soft. Yeah, it was really just a protocol. You couldn't communicate to anyone using IRC using anything. Now like it's Discord or it's like not Telegram, cause Telegram, wait, Telegram, the clients open source, right? But the server isn't or making that backwards. I think you're right, yeah. Telegram cause there is an app called Telegram Foss. So I think the clients for Telegram are open source but the like server infrastructure is not federated. So you can't really run your own Telegram server. Yeah, like a lot of the big apps nowadays have proprietary protocols and they're proprietary clients and proprietary servers and they focus more on usability. Like you can sign up for an account and get working in three minutes. Oh yeah. Sacrifice a lot of the stuff that you would normally get good at because they handle it for you. Big tech definitely wins like compared to open source software when it comes to, well ease of use, I would say they're almost on par but where I think big tech really wins is in the sexiness of their applications because, and part of it is just the nature of it cause if you take something like Apple for example so if you're using a macOS, like a MacBook, macOS and you're using applications that are made from Apple they're gonna be the ones designing all of that UI. They can make it all seamlessly fit together and then if you start getting into the whole ecosystem so you've got a file on your MacBook that you want to send to your iPhone. I'm pretty sure you do that with AirDrop, right? Like it's set up in such a convenient way it's such an easy to use thing and it looks good like the UI to it looks nice. So that's where I feel like they really win. I mean if you compare, probably one of the better comparisons would be just compare the hardware of a ThinkPad to a MacBook. The MacBook for the most part is a sexier device. I mean when I worked at Best Buy I can't tell you how many college girls I sold MacBooks to because they're like oh I like this one, it's cute. We never talked about RAM, we never talked about CPU speed, we never talked about anything that actually matters when it comes to the computer you bought it because it's cute. Same thing with the iPhone. Oh I like this iPhone, it's cute. And in the open service world there's not as many cute products that are going there. So yeah, that's why people just go for the easy stuff and they choose to be ignorant of their technology. That might be one of the reasons. I mean as a former, you know somebody who used Apple in the past I will say the one thing is Apple has pretty okay security out of the box. Like what I mean by that is security from external threats not counting Apple's own surveillance of their users but like as far as you know antivirus protection as far as like encryption by default goes they actually are pretty good like out of the box. But you can obviously get more private and secure by using open source software but they're not that bad. Like not as bad as like Windows would be. Oh no, I mean Windows. Well actually it's funny because Windows I actually do have a computer with Windows on it. I dual boot it but I was looking around in the settings of, it came with Windows 11. It's my gigabyte laptop. And it has, they've got these things like core isolation and there's a lot of settings in Windows that I think would make it much, much harder to hack. There was actually one setting that I turned on and it made it, it made things too secure so it was annoying but oh what's it called? Folder protection. So this is a thing that's supposed to protect you from ransomware I guess is you can set which applications have right access to which folders. And I turned it off cause I tried like I tried doing something like I tried saving something from GIMP and it's like oh no GIMP can't write to this folder or I tried downloading something. It's like oh Brave or Firefox can't write to your downloads folder. But that's not on by default but I think the core isolation is and I think it would probably be worth doing a video about a proper review of the security differences between Windows 10 and Windows 11. Cause Windows 10 was the last OS that I used like really full time and I switched to using it. Well I switched to using Linux for several years and then I started getting interested in penetration testing and I've actually made malware I mean using automated stuff and kind of going in and doing minor programming to improve it but I made malware that's able to take over Windows 10 machines. So it might be maybe an interesting home lab experiment to see if I can come out with some malware that can actually take over a Windows 11 machine. Have you ever done that? I know you did some home lab stuff in the past but did you ever get into the pen testing where you created a payload and you executed and see if you can like escalate privileges and things like that to see like what you're able to mess with before antivirus flags you know. I did a lot of web hacking. I did a lot of web hacking. So I didn't do really any OS hacking. I did a lot of web hacking. So I was able to like I remember at one point I what I used to do is like I get phishing emails right and I would try to actually like penetrate the phishing website and at one point I did manage to get like a list of accounts that were used that people submitted to that website. So like the guy had multiple websites that he would use I had like a fake Microsoft login and I was able to get into the backend of that website because he left the default credentials on as usual to people. I was probably automated but I mean like come on man. And I was able to get a list of people like their username and their password to their Microsoft account. So that's kind of- So these are people that he phished or this was the guy running the fish? No, people that he phished. Yeah, so it was that's as far as I've gotten. I've done some forensics on programs like, you know trying to decompile stuff using, what is that? It's like that program. Yeah, it's what's it called G-tra, right? Yeah, I think. Isn't that a decompiler? Yeah, let me look it up. I remember using it in college. Yeah. Now I never, I mean I was just, you know messing around with like literally put on a black hoodie, play some synth wave music. And let's play Hacker Man. But it was always really satisfying. And it's, I mean it's script kitty stuff but if you're like, I don't know maybe if you combine just a little bit of programming knowledge beyond- Yeah, that was IDA Pro, that's what it was. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, like it was so crazy how, cause I didn't go through, this was before I had a security plus, I mean I don't even have any offensive security certificates, you know, I've got A plus, network plus, CCNA and security plus. None of that really covers making malware or any type of like red team stuff. But it was funny how the little bit of like Python knowledge and shell scripting knowledge and batch scripting knowledge that I had, I was able to create like some malware that could really wreck a Windows 10 machines day. But Windows 11 I think is a little bit better. But anyway, our next topic actually still has to do with Microsoft. They're becoming, in my opinion, the Disney of gaming. And the reason I call them the Disney of gaming is Disney owns like, what is it, one quarter or like one third of all mainstream media? Like every movie, cause they own Marvel, they own Star Wars, they obviously own Disney and they own Pixar, right? So anything that's a Pixar movie is owned by Disney. If you go to the theaters, almost all of those movies are being made by Disney. And now it's gonna get to the point where when you go to GameStop, almost all of those games are owned by Microsoft. Because they completed the 69 billion nice takeover of Call of Duty Maker, Activision Blizzard, which I didn't even know before this recording that Activision and Blizzard per merged. I thought those are two separate companies. So, I mean, help me out here, cause I think you're more of a gamer than me. What are some titles that were under Blizzard that they own now? I guess World of Warcraft, right? Yeah, World of Warcraft. That's a huge thing, I'm pretty sure. Legends, I think. Oh, what's that game that everybody plays? That's like a first person shooter, team, matchmaking one. Can't remember what it's called. It's not League of Legends. God, I feel like such a boomer. I don't know any video games. Overwatch? Yes, yes, Overwatch, who owns Overwatch? Is Microsoft on that now? I think it's Blizzard. Check it out. I forget if it's, you're my Google guy. But yeah, I'll read this article while Mike looks it up. So, Microsoft, and they own the Xbox gaming console, so don't forget that. Yeah, it is Blizzard. It is Blizzard, yeah. So now they own Overwatch. Overwatch sucks from a TO2 person. And they own Call of Duty, right? That was made by Activision. I mean, at this point, it's like, what is a game franchise that they don't own? That's huge. I guess Pokemon. They're never gonna get Pokemon. There's no way. Yeah, Nintendo probably isn't gonna get bought or sold by anybody anytime soon. They're very independent. Yeah, but like... I saw a map, because we covered this in another show, and there's a graphic that was shown, I think by Microsoft, that showed all the brands they own, and there's like a ton of companies that they are development houses they now have under their control. Which is kind of insane. I'm trying to find it. I'll send it to you if I can find it, but like now they have games like Overwatch, like Diablo, Call of Duty, Warcraft. They also, I don't know if you know, but Blizzard, Activision are Blizzard. I don't know which one owns, but they own the mobile development company, King. People who make Candy Crush. Oh yeah, yeah, right. So they're done, and that's a whole separate platform of like, because when it comes to freemium games, I think people still spend more on mobile than they do on any other platform. Because like the last mobile game I played was Clash of Clans. This is like almost 10 years ago though. But I remember back then, all the top people, like your top 10 dudes on Clash of Clans were like, the joke was that they were oil princes, because a lot of them had Arabic names, and you look at what they have at their base, and you know that they're spending money on this game. They're buying, I think it was like gems or something like that. And not only are they spending money, but they're spending a shitload of money on this game, because with Clash of Clans, and I guess a lot of the other games are like this, you know, you upgrade your like walls and defenses and stuff of this like little base, and then you can also, people can attack your base, and then you can also buy these monsters to attack other people's bases. And there's like a, the point of attacking people's bases is you get coins, which you use to buy stuff and upgrade stuff, and you also get this purple stuff. I forget what the purpose of that was. I think it has something to do with monsters, like spawning monsters. But anyway, you get to a point in the game where you're at like level seven walls. And in order to get enough coins to upgrade every part of your wall, because it's like a grid system, right? So if you want to upgrade every single grid of your wall from like a level seven to level eight, because of the exponential increase of what it costs to do that, it's either going to take you eight months of playing this game every day and checking it to make sure, because you automatically farm coins and the purple stuff. And the idea is you want to spend this before somebody raids you, because you can see if somebody's got a bunch of stuff in their base. So it's you either keep playing the game and babysit it for eight months or you spend some money on gems and you can just upgrade all your shit right away. So when a tier of walls comes out, like when level 13 walls get released and some dude whose name is all in Arabic has it the next day, it's like, yeah, you just spent five grand on pixels, dude. Very big core Chinese. It's either. Yeah, yeah, or Chinese. Yeah, it's always one of those too. And it's like, damn, that's a huge money. And it's virtual stuff. It doesn't cost Microsoft anything to make that. So, holy cow, man, they're the Disney of gaming. I just sent you an infographic. This is the one I used on the other podcast that I'm on. It's a good looking infographic and it shows you everything that they now own. So they already own Bethesda, which are the guys who make like Fallout and Skyrim or Elder Scrolls. They already own their own stuff under Game Studio. So they have like, you know, the guys who make Minecraft, right, Mojang. They have the guys who make Forza. They have, you know, Halo, people who make Halo, the 343 or Bungie, whatever it is. And they just got Activision and Blizzard. So you have the guys they call Duty. They also make, Activision mainly makes Call of Duty, but they also make like the new Tony Hawk games that are coming out. They apparently Activision also owns MLG, like the MLG company that handles eSports. So they're gonna have their own eSports division now. Then Blizzard has a shit ton of other games and companies they own. Most of them are always also online only games. So like things like Warcraft, Diablo Overwatch, Starcraft, Hearthstone, like all those competitive games that are online service that make a shit ton of money from advertising and eSports. And that's not even mentioning the mobile division, which has a ton of other stuff that is just like micro transaction help. So they have a crap ton of stuff in their portfolio. And I actually said this in the other podcast, was that you don't play a lot of games, but on Windows, you can find... Hang on, hang on, hang on. Did you say another podcast? You do another podcast? Holy shit, I forgot. Yeah, I think that's an opportunity to plug your podcast that doesn't get views on a podcast that does get views. I don't own it. So I don't really care about the shit. Nah, go for it. So my friend, this was like a couple months ago, or actually, no, it was like a year ago when I started doing YouTube. He does his own thing called Six Seconds of Silence. And it's kind of like this, except it's less techy and a little less based. Yeah, it's like the Libre podcast if you bought the Libre podcast from Wish. I like to say we're the great value version of the Libre podcast, you know? Um, but yeah, if you wanna check it out, you can check it out, but we're in Libre mode right now. Six Seconds of Silence, and that's on, what platform is that on? YouTube right now, and I think it's also on Spotify. Whoa, YouTube and Spotify. Listen to that guys. I think I had to double check. I don't know if you put it on there yet. It's on YouTube, and it might be on Spotify. Yeah, so professional stuff. So if you wanna listen to a, you know, there's a lot of great podcasts out there, right? There's the Joe Rogan Experience. There's the Libre podcast. There's, what's Theo Vaughn's podcast called? Oh, damn, I'm blanking on it. It's like last Friday night or something like that. And then there's Six Seconds of Silence. Hey, look at that. These are all, these are all podcasts. These are all indeed podcasts. All right, now, despite Microsoft, you know, being basically richer than God, they owe 28.9 billion in back taxes to the IRS. Now, okay, hang on a second. Are they gonna pay those in Xbox gift cards? I sure hope they do, yeah, Xbox live cards. So here's the thing, right? When you don't pay your taxes, that's illegal. That's against the law, you're not allowed to do that. I think, was it Thomas Jefferson or Ben Franklin said, there's only two things in this world that are inevitable, death and taxes? So how come, if I don't pay my taxes, men with guns come and put me in a cage, but when Microsoft doesn't pay their taxes, they get to use that extra money to acquire Activision and Blizzard and become the Disney of Game. What's going on here? Why aren't they paying their taxes? 29, the 28.9 billion in tax. I mean, if I just didn't pay, like, I mean, dude, I was getting, so okay, here we go. Another IRL piece of information. I was getting these tax letters sent to me from Massachusetts for not paying, I guess, vehicle tax on my Mercedes? I don't even know it, because I paid for registration, but I guess there's some other tax. I don't know, this is the first vehicle I've ever owned, even though I'm like almost 30 and I don't even own that vehicle. Now I traded it dead for a Toyota Tacoma, because I'm a sneater, but yeah, I kept getting this stuff from the state of Massachusetts and they're like, we're gonna garnish your wages and blah, blah, blah. If you don't pay us these taxes, like just threatening letters and they're sending them to my address and my grandmother's address and it's like, oh my God. And it's like a hundred bucks. It's not even that much money. Like, if I get threatening letters to pretty much every address that the IRS knows about that's related to me for $100, what do you think they do for Microsoft? Oh, it's almost 30 billion, that's crazy. And it doesn't even seem like it's a lot because the market cap for Microsoft is $2.43 trillion, so it's, what they owe is such a small percentage of the whole company's value. Yeah, I think if you're a business though, it's a little more wonky because you can move that cash around, right? Because you can like write off stuff in your taxes, like there's a lot of places you can move that cash to. If you're an individual, there really isn't a whole lot of places you can move that cash to unless you have the resources and the outlets to do so. Which is how Donny gets away with doing it is because he has a lot of outlets that he can move cash to that can deflect those taxes. If you're like just a YouTuber who makes six figures, there's really nothing you can move the cash to to avoid that tax. Yeah, well that, it's funny you bring up Trump because that's getting shut down, right? Isn't he being forced to auction off all of his properties in New York? Because he would throw these shenanigans where he would say like, I've got this penthouse suite, it's the best penthouse suite, it's 3,000 square feet. And then next year, That was the one where he was This penthouse suite was amazing, it's 30,000 square feet. It's the best, the best people are saying. It was the one where he was like in trouble because he overvalued his shit, right? But no, yeah, he overvalued, but here's the thing, he overvalued in ways that were objective. He would like, I'm pretty sure he lied about square footage of places. And I'm pretty sure it was like to that order of magnitude where he's got something that 3,000 square feet and he says it's 30. And just no one's, but no one's see, I can't even really blame him though because here's the deal, right? If I'm Donald Trump and I'm gonna sell you an apartment building that's eight stories. And I'll like, oh, this apartment building I have in New York, it's the best apartment building. It's 12 stories. I stopped right before 13 because 13's a scary number. There's a lot of superstitious people out there. 13, you set up a 13 story building in my collapse. So it's 12 stories. And you pay me for a 12 story building. And it's really six. Like, like, come on. You know what I mean? Like, it's the same thing with the scamming. It's like, if you fall for this crap, someone out there is gonna get that bag, man. Okay? Like there's people out there who, they aren't, I guess, as moral or ethical when it comes to making money. And there's degrees to this, right? So if, like you take the freedom phone, for example. So that's like, what? That's some Chinese phone with like a custom ROM that's not even a de-googled ROM or it's not even a ROM that's effective at keeping big tech from spying on you, right? But it has the American flag wallpaper. It has the American flag wallpaper and I paid Candace Owens to promote it. And base black lady says, buy the phone. I have to buy the phones. So like, it is a phone, but it's way overvalued for what it is. So there's so many different degrees to these scams and people fall for it, okay? The same phone that Eric Prince is promoting. What's that one called? The unplugged phone, which is probably a honeypot. I mean, Eric Prince is what? X Navy seal. He invented black water. He, you know, probably hangs out at country clubs with CIA agents and he's got a phone where he like rolled his own encryption and it's totally legit. And he also kind of did the whole, I don't even know if it's necessarily a right-wing thing, the anti, being anti-vax, but he tapped into that anti-vax crowd by saying there's a dating app on there that specifically made for unvax people. Totally 100% not a honeypot. Totally not a honeypot. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, there's degrees to these scams, but my understanding is Trump's scams were just ridiculous egregious, like on the level of saying something as many more thousands of square feet than it actually is. Or I don't think he literally sold an apartment building instead of it was more floors than it actually is, but it's like that type of stuff. I think it was because he overvalued his property, right? But my reading into the situation was that the person bought it and it's not like that person actually suing him. It's like the state suing him for overvaluing it. But my problem with that is if I sell you, right, this water bottle. I say this water bottle is worth 100 bucks and then you agree and you purchased it, right? Fuck him, fuck him, fuck him. Here, 100 bucks. I'll give it to you right now. Give me that water bottle. If you agree. Yes. And you buy it for 100 bucks. So who was defrauded in that situation? What, I was defrauded? Who? I'm calling the government. I'm calling the government to get you. This man defrauded me. I'm just confused because I don't know who who was because if you're defrauded, there has to be some sort of loss of something like loss of profit or loss of revenue. I got to hide my cash in a different place now. Like who the fuck was who the fuck was offended in the situation? I was and the government needs to get you. You eat the rich. Yeah, I think that is that is accurate, which, you know, if that is the case where it's like the government, well, it's, I mean, yeah, I don't think I'm really with that. So let's move on to this next thing, which is speaking of fake news, right? This is related to Trump. This is, well, just fake news I guess related to Trump, but these headlines about like big tech is, who vets these? Okay, who vets headlines? Like Meta made its Lama 2 AI model open source because Zuck has balls, okay? Is it open source? Is it? Okay, let's check, let's check, right? So we've got here is Meta's, this is on Meta's website. So this is like if you're gonna use, if you're gonna program for Lama and they talk about how Lama outperforms GPT-3. Well, here's the thing, right? Normally when something's open source, they have some kind of license that's somewhere on it that says, oh, it's GPL or it's BSD or it's MIT. I don't see that there, right? Luckily some dude on Hacker News was nice enough to throw together this Google Sheet where we can look at different large language models and see things like their parameters, see what organization made them and also see the license that made it, okay? So let's look up Lama 2 and what is this? It's under a non-FANG license. I haven't heard of that, but I have a feeling it's more restrictive than MIT, BSD or Apache 2. All these licenses that you're, all these different AI models or large language models that you're seeing in green. So it looks like there's a handful of them here that are more open. Let's short sort this A to Z. Now here's the thing, right? Obviously, none of these models have nearly as many parameters as Lama or as GPT. There's open Lama, which looks like it might go up to 20 billion parameters. See, permissively licensed open source reproduction of Meta's AI Lama. So here we go guys, Zuck does not have balls. Open LM research does and they're much bigger than sucks and they're smoother and they smell more pleasant. So yeah, we've got, like here you go, as an example of a large language model that is actually open, like the licensing is such that you can actually use this and like I guess do more or less whatever you want with it, right? And this is the thing that we see people complaining about or at least that we see the media complaining about saying that, oh God, it's dangerous to let people have these large language models because oh my gosh, they could, like what's the biggest thing that they're complaining about with the large language models? Cause those don't produce the deep fakes, right? Large language models are the same as the deep fake or is it? I think the large language models are used for data processing. Yeah, data processing and text, yeah. Yeah, so I've seen people using them to like cheat on tests. Like that's the new thing is that if you're- Yeah, like write essays for you, yeah, that kind of shit. Yeah, like no one uses spark notes anymore. You use chat GPT to like write your tests. Although it's funny that, you know, that we came to this cause my sister actually wanted me to take some kind of algebra test for one of her friends. And apparently it wasn't really proctored or anything. Like they were saying, oh yeah, I could easily sign in and do the test for her. And I was about to do it, but it was 300 questions. And I don't want to answer 300, like I can do algebra, but I don't want to answer 300 questions. I was asking, why don't you just have chat GPT do it? But she was saying it couldn't solve it. So either chat GPT can't do algebra unlikely or my sister and her friend don't know how to work chat GPT. That's probably the case. They're not that great with computers. Have you actually used that GP in any faculty? No, I haven't. I didn't really get in before it was as open as it was and try it out. The only ones I've messed with are stable diffusion. Like I, to me, I like the artwork stuff because I'm actually pretty good at writing. Like, you know, I can write. I actually took a creative writing class in school. I can write jokes. I'm pretty good at writing jokes. I can like make up creative stories and like poetry and stuff like that, but I can't draw for shit. So for me, being able to describe what I want drawn, what I want drawn, which I'm pretty good at, is way easier than me actually learning GIMP or Photoshop or like how to use a paint brush or anything like that. So yeah, I tend to do the like stable diffusion and dolla four, I think is the one that Bing has. Yeah. Yeah, I dug up a old hotmail account to log in because he got to log in on Bing to use it. And I haven't used chat to look up shit because I use some open source stuff at work. And yeah, you can go through the community, right? You can go through the forums and like dig through a forum post to find your solution or you can have a chat GVT do it for you. And that's kind of where I think it's useful is that it's if you need to like research some shit and you don't want to like do all the digging yourself, it can just give you like, if I'm asking it, like the specific thing I was asking it was like, can I do X in this open source software? And it was like, yeah, you can, here's the way to do it rather than me spending, you know, two and a half hours trying to dig through your forum post to figure out if I could do it or not. So with that specific example, well, obviously it worked out good for you, but I would be real skeptical of using chat GVT that way. And I'll tell you why. There's been a number of times that I've looked up random things and I end up on some kind of forum. Actually, here's a good example of one that I recently had to deal with. I was trying to figure out whether or not it is safe or a good idea to use pressure treated wood to build a chicken coop. Now the reason I was unsure of this is when you pressure treat wood, there's chemicals that they put in it that basically prevent bugs from eating it and it also makes it more weather resistant and stuff like that. Now at first, some of the answers I was seeing was that you can't keep chickens in like a pressure treated coop. In fact, I don't think you can even use pressure treated wood at all on a livestock farm and be considered certified organic. So that might lead you to believe that it's not a good idea. However, I started looking into it deeper, right? I started doing much deeper research than what chat GPT might do. And I started actually looking into like, okay, what chemicals are in modern treated wood and why is it a problem? And the conclusion that it came to was when you have pressure treated wood that is in contact with the ground and it is in one spot for a long period of time. So say if you had a stationary chicken coop or you were using pressure treated posts for a fence, what's gonna happen is copper is gonna leech into your soil and it's gonna put the copper, so it's not even a completely foreign material. Like copper is in soil, it's a mineral, but you don't want your copper levels to be too hot. So that's where it might become a problem. But even then like having high copper, it's not like someone's salting your field or it's not like you had an oil spill or toxic sludge like it's copper, it's not that big a deal. And in my case, it's not a problem at all because I like to build mobile chicken coops and that's actually what this coop is gonna be. It's gonna be a chicken coop on wheels, two castor wheels that swivel in the front and two stationary ones in the back. So kind of like a giant shopping cart with chickens in it. And it's gonna get moved every day. So I'm never gonna have any issue with copper leaching in my field, on my farm, because I move it every day. Now I might not be able to still be considered certified organic, but I honestly don't care about that because what I have found from, again, more research that you might not get on forums, this is actually from reading Joel Saladin's books and from watching him on TED Talks and various documentaries he's done on Polyface Farm is a lot of the stuff the FDA, like the FDA doesn't know what they're talking about. Okay, the FDA is not run by farmers. The FDA is dudes in suits that like might have read a book one day that told them the cow goes moo and they are the ones who tell you how to do farming. So that's my only I guess skepticism about ChadGPT is it might give you something in a summary on a forum, but if you scroll down, if you actually went to that forum and you scroll down a bit, you'll probably find an answer from someone who's got a lot of flair on that forum. Like there's somebody who really knows what they're talking about calling OP an idiot. And ChadGPT might not make it there. So yeah, have you had any examples where ChadGPT got things horribly wrong or has it been pretty good for you so far? I think it's, it hasn't, like I haven't used it for exact answers, right? There have been things where it obviously gets it wrong or it doesn't understand the context, but it like points me in the right direction as to what I should be looking at because like I'll ask it a question and then it's like, oh, you can do this, this and this and then like it doesn't, because I have no, because I use the system that it doesn't work that way. But it tells me like this feature, it's like, oh, you can use, what was it? I was using, I was, I set up like, I manage a compute farm, right? So I manage like a batch compute for us. And one of the things I have to do is set up reservations. People can like say, I need, you know, 500 gigs of RAM and like 24 CPUs. And it was telling me, oh, you can use this feature to like enable reservations. And I knew that wasn't true because there was a different feature that was, the name was called, but it was pointing me in the right direction because it was saying that you need. You know what, you actually just jog my memory. I have used a LLM before. There is one, I forget what it's called, but there's one for generating rust code. I've used that. And just like you said, it'll generate your code, but it won't tell you what it does. Because I was trying to play with it as a way to sort of like learn rust better. Like I would try to build something really simple myself. Like, oh, implement a calculator that can do addition, subtraction, multiplication, division and run it and just see like, oh, you know, what did I get compared to the AI? Is my solution better than the AI's? So yeah, I have used that, but I agree. You can't get really detailed information from them. And I don't know, it might even cheapen the learning experience to a certain extent, but this is one of the most impressive, in my opinion, AI stories that I've seen. And it is this 21 year old that used AI to decode a burnt and unopened Herculean or Herculeanium. So I guess that's from the Herculean, I don't know what this word means, but anyway, it's some old Greek stuff. Some old Greek scroll that nobody knew about and it was burnt and I guess they didn't necessarily wanna open it because they thought it would make it worse. He decoded it with AI. And actually here, let's just read what it says, Mount Vesuvius. Oh, so this is from Pompeii. Okay, it's the city of Herculeanium. That's what it is. Okay, so yeah, when the Pompeii incident happened, it was buried for 2,000 years, then it was excavated in the 1700s and people didn't wanna undo the scrolls because yeah, they would turn to ash. But this person, is this the person? Or wait, no, that's not the person. That's just the person announcing it. Today, we are announcing a major breakthrough in the Vesuvius challenge. We have read the first word from an unopened Herculeanium scroll. The word is some Greek mishmash that I can't read. And it means purple die or close a purple. Congratulations to the 21 year old computer science student, Luke Barito, who is the first person to see this handwriting in nearly 2,000 years. He has won the $40,000 first letters prize for this world historical achievement. Yeah, like this is something that nobody knew what it said before in the used AI to solve. I wonder if, oh God, I wish I knew what this was. There's some manuscripts. I know people are probably listening to this and screaming it out my name, but there's some manuscript out there that has not been deciphered. And some people say it's indecipherable and there's pictures in it of like these crazy plants that aren't real plants or no one's actually seen these plants before. I can't remember what it is, man, damn. But anyway, I wonder if an AI would be able to decipher that because it's something that's been around for a long, long time. It's, yes, that's what it is, the Voynich manuscript. Oh, yes, oh man. Yeah, the Voynich manuscript, there we go. So do you think AI is gonna ever decode that? It decoded this? It's a made-up language, right? Yeah, because this is at least a real language to come up with what it means, yeah. Yeah, all right, well, when did I first learn about the Voynich manuscript? I think it was a Terence McKenna talk that I first heard about it. I did an ancient frog poster. Just made up the, well, that's like, like, what was it, it wasn't cicada. Cicada is something, but I don't think they ever figured out what cicada was about, but there was some like internet scavenger hunt that was similar to cicada that just ended up being a big nothing burger. So I guess it might be something like that. It just really ends up being a giant ship hose. All right, so our next story is about Best Buy ceasing the selling of physical media, DVDs and Blu-ray media after the holidays. So if you want to buy physical media at Best Buy, this is your last chance to do it. It goes away after that. Now, of course, I have a soft spot in my heart for Best Buy, because I worked out there for so long. And do you, do you have a soft spot for Best Buy? Well, you were never really, you were never really technically a blue shirt, right? You went straight to Geek Squad. Ah, see, I worked my way up the hard way. I got into, it was computers, the computers department at the Cambridge Mall. And then, I think I was in computers the whole time and I transitioned from computers to Geek Squad, because it's, well, Geek Squad is just so much more chill than being in the, because the main thing I didn't like about working at Best Buy was the pressure to sell stuff because the sales goal was $800 an hour. And I think it eventually came up to $1,000 an hour working in computers. And what I found was, like this kind of comes back to the whole, like, I guess, ethics thing. Like, I used to be really hung up about offering people the Best Buy credit card. And the reason I was so hung up about it is because I have had and probably still have some family members that are in credit card debt. Like, they've been, you know, they went deep into debt. Now, I know now, at this point, you know, now that I'm not such a young warthog anymore, that credit cards, you can actually, like not make money, but you can save money with credit cards, right? Like we were talking about this a few days ago about how you get certain percentages of cash back for buying gas so you get a certain percentage and cash back for groceries. And it's like, that's literally, as long as you're not an idiot and you pay off your entire balance with a credit card every, I do it just about every day so that I know it's not gonna carry over or whatever. You end up saving money using a credit card versus using cash or using your debit card or anything else. But back then, I still kind of saw them as this evil thing. And I saw it as like kind of predatory to offer people credit cards to finance like a computer or something that they can't afford. But if you don't do that, if you don't have, if you're not selling a MacBook every couple of hours, you're never gonna hit your goal at Best Buy. And the other thing that was annoying too is we all knew that, like everyone in Best Buy, like if you're actually trying to do your job, right? Like if you're trying to hit those sales goals, you're trying to get promotions and stuff like that, you usually end up coming up with a strategy which is I'm gonna hang out by the most expensive stuff in my department and I'm gonna sell that to anyone who looks at it. And so you would just have, yeah, yeah, and so that's what we did. When we were in the computer's department, we would camp the Apple section and we would sell Apple stuff and you'd have like, I don't know, some lady or some purse, some guy, it doesn't matter, who is looking at like the plastic case Dell laptop and I mean, it's an okay computer under the hood, it's a quad core, it's eight gigs of RAM, but it costs 400 bucks. Oh dude, if you're trying to open up a case to sell like a headphone or something, no. Yeah, hell no, how am I gonna sell that? Cause first of all, I'm not even selling the hard drives to people. You know, I'm giving it to you and nobody's gonna come and ask me for a hard drive anyway. This is Best Buy. If you know what a hard drive is, you ordered it online and you're getting it at store pickups so that you don't have to deal with my goofy ass trying to tell you about the Best Buy credit card for the nine million time. Yeah, no, I agree like at this point and it makes sense, you know, and it's not, I don't even really consider it predatory, it's just, you know, if you fuck up that's on you. If you don't make your payment, if you don't make your payment, Citibank or whoever they do the credit card with will fuck you in the ass with like 19% interest or whatever. But like the DVDs are gone and I remember telling, well, I don't think you really remember the guy. I don't remember his name, but I remember there were these guys that would occasionally come in and like they have this routine where they just kind of look through the bin of DVDs and one of them was actually kind of a cool, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait. His name almost came to me, but I just remember that he used to live in selfie because I remember when I was moving out, he knew this real estate gal that was in selfie that he was trying to, you know, put me up with an apartment. But anyway, like, it was an interesting dude to talk to. The dudes that perused the DVD bins were good people to kill time talking to if you were a blue shirt and you just didn't want the GM to harass you. It's like, I'm helping a customer. He's trying to find Babe too. This is an important transaction. Oh, man, I was so overworking at that place. But yeah, man, physical media is going away. It's all streaming, which to most people, you know, that guy have good internet connections. I guess that's cool. But what about the people like me that are trying to go to my farm and let's say I have to stay out at the farm overnight, because maybe there's a fox or a raccoon that's harassing my chickens. So you're telling me that I have to sit there in my truck with a shotgun, protecting my chickens, streaming content? Well, the best I'm gonna get is maybe 240p and still a few hiccups. So yeah, DVDs, man. Where do we go to get DVDs now? Where do we go to get Blu-rays? Hopefully a Walmart. Because there's not even a Best Buy near me. So this isn't even, I know that that is a real example of people out in like rural places needing physical media, but Best Buy isn't even where we would get them. I don't even know where the nearest Best Buy to me is, probably in Richmond. This is like a two hour drive so far. Yeah, so Best Buy is going to cease the selling of physical media and probably a lot of other stores are gonna follow the leader because nobody buys DVDs anymore. And the streaming sites are just gonna start getting bigger and bigger. This is another interesting thing that I saw which is YouTube is claiming the first ever lead over Netflix in teen viewership. So there's more teens watching YouTube. That's what this says. That's what the survey says. It also says that most teens prefer TikTok over Netflix. I thought it would be the other way around. But Netflix, here's the thing about Netflix though. Netflix is, oh man, this is another one of those things where I don't know the word, but Netflix has gotten to the point where it's, you know how you would call any generic soda a Coke? Or you call, yeah, yeah, so it's gotten to the point now. Well, I think there's a specific word for it that has to do with corporate dominance where a specific company becomes so popular that people start using its name to refer to things that, like Chapstick, right? Every single Chapstick is like, okay. So this is Bert's Bees, right? This is what I use, but this isn't Chapstick. But if this was on a table and I said, go get my Chapstick, you know exactly what I'm talking about. You go get this. Yeah, but I don't use Chapstick brand Chapstick. So Netflix has gotten to the point where it's like, if it's like a euphemism for just watching something on the TV, even if you're not watching Netflix, you could be watching Peacock or you could be watching Netflix and Chill, right? That's a euphemism. It means we're gonna watch something on TV and I'm gonna see if I can get in your pants, right? It's not called Prime Video and Chill. It's not called Paramount and Chill. It's not even called Watch TV and Chill. It's Netflix and Chill regardless of what you're putting on. So that's why I'm impressed by that because I thought Netflix was way bigger than that. But yeah, let's get into the percentages. So Investment Bank, Piper Sandler's 46th Semi-Annual Generation Z survey of 9,193 US teens via CNBC shows that participants spend 29.1% of their daily video consumption time on YouTube in Netflix was a close second at 28.7%. So they're not beating them out by a lot but there's a slight margin. YouTube is more popular than Netflix, at least with the teen groups. And they're saying that they're theorizing whether the change is due to content on YouTube improving and streaming industry becoming increasingly competitive. Because yeah, the price of Netflix is going up and up and YouTube is well, it's still free but we're gonna get into some of the YouTube shenanigans. I think that might be one of our last topics for this podcast. So yeah, TikTok, actually it looks like there's more people using, oh wait no, percentage of daily use. So TikTok is 38.4% of the daily use, holy cow. Oh man, that app came out of nowhere and just took over the teens minds. I don't think I asked my nephew if he, I gotta figure out if my nephew uses a TikTok or not. Try to fix that, nip that in the bud real quick. Yeah, so YouTube is really like, and they've been here before Netflix. So Netflix kind of came, I guess got ahead of them and now YouTube's pulling back in the lead. But YouTube TV, which I assume is part of that previously, that study that we were looking at where YouTube has become more popular amongst teens, which now cost $73 a month because the price of YouTube TV and YouTube premium just keeps going up. They've agreed to end the $600 less than cable ads. So this is what we've seen and it's not just YouTube that's part of this problem. It's really all the stream platforms, especially Netflix, where they've been jacking up their prices again and again and again. And they cut down on things like account sharing with Netflix or with YouTube. It's the ad blocking that they've cut down on which we're gonna get into shortly. But it's gotten to the point now where I'm pretty sure streaming platforms, if you own more than, or if you pay for probably more than three, you're paying more than you did for cable. I mean, do you pay for any stream platforms right now? Or do you know anyone who does? Okay, I think Mike stepped away. But anyway, with YouTube TV, you're paying $73 a month. Netflix I think is up to like possibly $20 or $30 at this point. So right there, you're almost at 100. Prime Video, I actually had Prime Video for a while and I canceled it. I think that was $19.99 a month. So yeah, like if you get to three or more subscriptions, I'm pretty sure you're gonna end up paying more than you did for cable. But we were told it would be the opposite. We were told that cable was the old school thing and we had, what is it, that South Park episode where they're showing us the cable company guys, they know that you're fucked so they just rub their nipples when you complain about them. And with streaming services, yeah, there's a bunch of competition, but they all seem to pretty much be in agreeance that we're all going to raise our prices around the same time. So yeah, YouTube TV is jacking up their prices and YouTube is also rampantly blocking ad blockers. So this is something that you may have seen a notification of where YouTube shows you this notification that, oh, YouTube doesn't allow ad blockers, you have to disable it in order to continue. And the reason we're looking at UBlock Origin is this is the most popular ad block add-on in existence right now, I'm pretty sure. And you can see how the development has been going where they've been trying to, it's basically a game of cat and mouse where the UBlock devs keep coming up with new ways to block ads and block ads in a stealthier way so that you don't get flagged by YouTube. And I'm not even exactly sure how YouTube is detecting ad blockers. I mean, you can use, there's a couple of ways to detect add-ons. Maybe it's through the user agent, I'm not entirely sure, but you could have the add-on and then you might just have it disabled. I'm pretty sure that you can still use UBlock in that circumstance or they can just make an update to the UBlock Origin software and find a new way around it. Let's actually look at the issues now. Let's see, are there any issues with YouTube blocking it? I'm not actually seeing any. Yeah, so there's one from back in 2018. So it looks like UBlock might actually be winning the battle against YouTube and ad blocking right now. They actually just made another commit as we've been doing this podcast. Yeah, but this isn't, I don't think this is to do with a, it's a version change, but a very minor one. Yeah, I mean, I don't see YouTube ultimately winning the ad blocking game because even if they find a way to permanently block all the ad blockers. So there's no way that you can watch a YouTube video with Braves ad blocker or with UBlock Origin or anything like that. Someone is gonna go through, watch the video, remove ads on their end, and then create a torrent of it, if it's good enough for that. And the people who are making content that isn't good enough to put up with an ad are not gonna see the views. That's one scenario that I see playing out. Like I don't think people are really gonna put up with the ad blocking stuff, especially with YouTube jacking up the price of YouTube premium. I think that's up to $30 now. I'm not sure. I remember reading something a while back that the price of YouTube premium had gone up, which is supposed to be how you avoid ad blockers, but I think this could get YouTube to lose its throne as the most popular blocking service amongst teens. I mean, assuming those teens are smart enough to figure out how to install these ad blockers. I know we were shitting on them earlier about not being the most competent people with phones, but those of them who are, that's right. For every YouTube ad that you see, we block it, but then we show you five of our own. Yeah, whoever figures it out. You know, I genuinely wonder, because I feel like people are less like kids, teenagers are less tech savvy now than they used to be. I wonder if like, if you do go to high school and you are a pretty tech savvy person, like, do you end up being kind of cooler? Like, if people don't know how to pirate music, for example, there's some kid out there who can't afford Spotify, right? Or Spotify free, and you just listen to ads and deal with music. I don't even have a Spotify account, so I don't know how that works, but I'm sure there's someone out there who is in high school and knows how to torrent music, and they're probably one of the only people in their class that knows how to do that, and they could fuck you up. They could probably start, well, people don't buy CDs anymore, do they? Yeah, because I was gonna say you could start doing your own bootleg CD thing. Maybe you could just have like, nobody downloads stuff either, right? Everything's just in the cloud, so you'd have to make a bootleg streaming service. I guess that's why it died out, right? Why pirating media died out. Most people, I would just prefer to use the cloud. You help them out? Yeah, I guess you could do that. I've heard of people running their own Plex servers, where they, yeah, but I don't know how much money they're making off of that. It's gotta be some, but how good are the margins on that though? Because to run a server that streams video, I'd imagine that's pretty high end. A lot of storage, yeah. I probably could have done it at my place up north that I was staying at, because I had a gigabit connection. And I mean, the Threadripper could definitely handle it, and I've got, I actually still have to shuck some external drives. I've got a bunch of, I'm not really a bunch. I think I've got like three or four, 20, well, they're between like 14 and 20 terabyte drives. I would just go to Best Buy whenever they had a really good discount on that easy store stuff and buy one of those. Oh yeah, I went with you one day, right? Didn't we both buy one? Yeah, man, I gotta get those into a computer. The desktop you gave me didn't have enough bays though. It's only got like three or four bays. I'm gonna do a DIY NAS. I want like eight bays, you know? So, YouTube might end up getting dethroned by some competition, but it's not gonna be library, because library is dead. They made this post on October the 19th, the end of library. Now, this is not the library blockchain. This is Library Inc. Because Library Inc. the company lost a judgment to the federal government. They've got several million dollars in debt and so they've, you know, pled to shut down. They're probably bankrupt. But, what's happening to the library network, right? This is what they say here. Oh, actually, well, let's read what happened. What's happening to Library Inc. first? So, Library Inc. has debts to the SEC, its legal team and a private debtor that it cannot pay. Its assets, which include Odyssey, are being placed into receivership. At this, as of this post, all library executives, employees and board members have resigned. All will be doing what is required to satisfy any extending legal requirements, but no more. So, Odyssey sounds like it's pretty much up for sale or it could easily become a different thing. It's probably not, well, it might stay plugged in to the library network because they could let Odyssey just continue running as is, but since it's like an asset that's, I guess, being used to sort of pay off these debts, you might start seeing a lot more ads on Odyssey to generate revenue in order to pay for that. Now, library, on the other hand, is fine. So, we have this section, what's happening to library network. Fortunately, library is not our network. It's a decentralized network and all the code powering it is open source. The library network might die too. Decentralization isn't magic, it only works if enough people use it. Could library still swallow all digital publishing like we intended? Could this be the beginning of a descent into obscurity? Who knows? It's not like we're library experts. The truth is that even writing this post fills us with anxiety. Everything we say is being scrutinized by people with immense resources that aren't big fans of us, free speech or any technology that enables dissent. And if we violate another one of the you United States is incredibly clear and easy to follow the laws, we might end up in jail. Sarcasm, by the way, some of you aren't good at that. However, we get into the game by being honest in the cryptocurrency space when few were, we got into the game by being honest. We then got into trouble for being so honest. It only makes sense to go out the same way. It's in our nature. So, what's happening to Odyssey, which is the flagship library app continues to serve more than 6 million people each month. Even while it's been iced, CoinGecko rates Odyssey as the most popular web three social media site in the world and it's by a large margin. Apparently the second most popular is Steemit and they've only got 3 million monthly users compared to the over 6 million that Odyssey is now claiming. According to this CoinGecko, this is from January to April 2023. So it's been going up. Odyssey's popularity makes it the most valuable asset of Library Inc. While it's nearly certain the Odyssey assets will be assumed by someone interested in resuming its growth, it's unclear if Odyssey will continue to use the library network in the future. So, this is what I was kind of talking about where Odyssey is gonna continue on and it's most likely gonna be used to continue generating revenue, but it's probably not gonna be the same thing as it was. It might not even necessarily continue using the library protocol in the future. It could switch to another cryptocurrency or it could try to become a traditional web two platform like YouTube is. And they've got weekly Odyssey user data here for data nerds. So this is showing C91. I believe it was, yeah, so go to the section where it says is the library token still a security? I'm pretty sure that's what it was over. Yeah, they don't, something like that. It's been a while since I read that, but it had something to do with what the library token was called. And I think they sold a bunch of library token as a startup to get startup capital. I think that was the big thing that the SEC was upset about. So yeah, Odyssey is, I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen to it. I mean, it's probably, what I think is gonna happen to it is it's gonna become more monetized because that's the whole point of Odyssey being sold off. I don't know if it's gonna continue being plugged into library. I don't know how that monetization is gonna take place. I'm not aware of Odyssey really putting any effort into stopping people using ad blockers. I don't even get that many ads on Odyssey anyway. At least not compared to YouTube. So here we see what happens to library channels and content. So there's over 17 or 1,700,000 identities and 30 million pieces of content that have been published to library blockchain. As long as the library blockchain continues to be mined, those identities and records will continue to exist. But the content itself isn't published on the blockchain and it requires host nodes to function. So if Odyssey chooses to stop utilizing library then content that is not actively seeded by others will stop being available. So this is where the opportunity to bring back, I mean, it's not gonna be Odyssey but to bring back library. Okay, so to recap, Odyssey you can sort of think or yeah, Odyssey you can think of as the front end and library is the back end. So the back end still exists and the back end is gonna continue. There's no way that the SEC can really shut down the back end because the blockchain is ungovernable. But without those host nodes actually seeding people's content, library is effectively going to die because you're just gonna have identities out there. So you'll be able to see the mental outlaw or alpha nerd on Odyssey but you won't be able to see the content if people aren't seeding it. So it's really gonna be up to the community and what I think is gonna happen is only if library survives only the best content is gonna survive. All the stuff that's not, if someone is out there making content that's not good enough for it to occupy some space on your hard drive or occupy some space on some of their fans' hard drives and occupy some of their bandwidth, it's gone, it's done. And Odyssey, I honestly don't know what's gonna happen with Odyssey guys. R&P won or is winning their case against the SEC. Like that's something years ago where XRP, well XRP I think is still one of the largest cryptocurrencies by market cap but it used to be a much bigger project and then it got kind of in this weird limbo stage with the SEC regulations but now it seems like to come in back around on there. Yeah, I think it's gonna end up being, I think it's gonna have to be community seeding because they say they've got 30 million pieces of content that have been published to the library blockchain. So I would say let's be really generous. Let's say that the average piece of content is 20 megs in size. So 30 million pieces, that's 600 terabytes of space, I'm pretty sure, to store that, right? 600 million megabytes, these 60 terabytes. So if you're a nonprofit that needs to run 60 terabytes and stream that, I don't see it happening, man. I don't see it coming from a nonprofit. Maybe decentralized, but no way it's coming from a nonprofit and then if it's just decentralized, well if it's just decentralized, you might be able to have a nonprofit to build a front end like Odyssey for it because most people who use, most people aren't using the library app, they're using Odyssey, they're using some kind of front end. So maybe you could do that but I don't know how expensive it is to run something like Odyssey. To be able to just, yeah, so probably a couple hundred bucks a month, maybe? It's like, you know, it's one of those things where you gotta really like free speech and have a lot of disposable income to put towards it to keep something like this running. So yeah, I'm sad to see this. I mean, I guess I'm just gonna have to wait and see how it goes and whether or not I'm gonna keep promoting Odyssey because I don't even tell people to subscribe to me on YouTube. I only told people to subscribe to me on Odyssey and it's been paying off because I think I was looking at the, well, this was the library stats and my channel passed Donald Trump's official channel which that was like kind of pretty cool because, you know, I think he's banned from YouTube so if he does make some content, I guess he has to put it on Odyssey. Yeah, man, that's too bad. Maybe we're gonna have to start creating on Rumble. I don't even really know too much about Rumble. I know one of the Predator catcher guy I was talking about before, he posts a lot of content out on Rumble. Yeah, it's, jeez. Okay, I mean, hey, that works. That works, yeah, I mean, well, that goes with all the banning and stuff. Obviously we're gonna ban people for stuff but then they're gonna go wherever they're accepted. All right, I think, I think this is our last story about the biggest DDoS of all time generated by protocol in HTTP2. Did you hear about that? Literally the biggest DDoS of all time. Let me see if it, let's see. So an attack on Google on a site using Google's cloud infrastructure topped out at 398 million requests per second. That's a hell of a DDoS, but can you imagine? Almost, yep. So HTTP2 slash rapid reset is a novel technique for waging DDoS of an unprecedented magnitude. It wasn't discovered until after it was already being exploited to deliver record breaking DDoS's one attack on a customer using the Cloudflare content delivery network peaked at 201 million requests per second, almost triple the previous cloud, previous record Cloudflare had seen of 71 million requests per second. So right out the gate, it's triple whatever they had seen and I saw the one about Google successfully mitigating it because that one that I was telling you where it was 398 million requests per second, that's almost eight times bigger than Google's previous record that they mitigated of 46 million. And it was coming from a network, the one that had Cloudflare was coming from a network of 20,000 machines. So 20,000 machines producing almost 400 million requests per second. Well, relatively small for the amount of requests that they're putting out, right? Because let's see 20 million and we're sending almost, let's call it 400 million to make the math easier. That's 40,000 requests per second from each machine, right? I think so, we're gonna say that's right. And that's quite a bit more than you would normally get with a botnet. And this one was actually able to create some 400 and 500 errors on websites even though people are using Cloudflare. So it's like Cloudflare actually did get overwhelmed to some extent. So the vulnerability that HTTP to rapid reset exploits resides in HTTP too, which went into effect in 2015 and it's undergone several overhaul since then. Let's see, I don't know if they actually really tell us how to do this particular exploit. It falls into a type of DDoS known as application layer attacks. Okay, so it is at the application layer rather than trying to overwhelm the incoming connection to exhaust the routing infrastructure, application levels attempt to exhaust the computing resources. Okay, so basically they're hitting, this is actually what happened to my website when I first launched it and I forgot to migrate it to from the test server to the real server where I was getting like, I was getting too many API requests and I had it hosted on a single core processor. It is like, oh my God, there's a thousand people trying to access my poor and it wasn't even single core, it's a VCPU. So when I first launched based on when it was on a VCPU and that's why the website went down because like, you know, most of the time when I publish a video, it'll get like 10,000 views within the first hour. So all those people were like hitting my website. And I'm sure there were some people that were probably trying to DDoS me on purpose and like just be shitty. But yeah, it overwhelmed the, if that gets to your server, it doesn't matter what you're using to run your server. Like your CPU percentage is gonna peak to 100% and you're gonna get those 400 and 500 hours. Wow, that's pretty nuts. So let's see how it ended up getting mitigated. Oh, fair, I wish to bet. The idea of rapid reset attack isn't viable on an array. Oh, so they thought it wasn't even something else possible to do. They managed to pull it off. Yeah, I mean, that's something that's gonna have to be mitigated because 20,000 malicious machines to take down sites that are using Cloudflare, that's almost the same number of machines that have been compromised by that Cisco, what is it, the web API takeover exploit, 10 out of 10 critical if you've got, what is it, a web API enabled on a Cisco device and that web API is bound to a public IP or any IP where an attacker can see it, they're able to take over, if it's bound to the HTTP server, that's the key part. So if you have an HTTP server with that web UI on it mounted to a public or even if it's a local IP and you've got someone in the office that feels like being a hacker man, they can take that over. So you could, if you were controlling those machines and you have other servers that are vulnerable to this HTTP to vulnerability, you could actually take them down even if they're using Cloudflare. Holy moly, the worst DDoS attack in history and one of the most like retarded router exploits ended up coming out in about the same couple of weeks. All right guys, we are at just over the two hour mark. So I think that that's a good time to wrap. Oh, that's what that was? All right, cool. Well, yeah, that's it for this episode of the Libre podcast. Hope you guys enjoyed. Be sure to like and share to hack the algorithm. Follow me on Odyssey if they're still gonna be around and have a great rest of your day.