 Let's fall in love, lose all my ins, don't be in charge Quality time for you and I, don't let these passes by You know I'll cry, and I know you will take my hand Your shoulder, don't make me all that fear sweet Let's lose my self and protect your heart Please don't, let's fall in love, let's fall in love Lose all my ins, don't be in charge Have a knit clover, take my hand Self and protect your, please don't make Stick around, let's fall in love I love this, I hope you enjoyed and you love that song And there are going to be three more sets of songs coming right away I hope you're enjoying the show, this is the power talk show with me Dominic It's another wellness day with me and we are having another beautiful conversation Living with this ability and my guest today is Antoni Moretti The team leader at SafariCom call center, he'll be talking to us We'll be listening, having this beautiful conversation And I want you to be part of this conversation by going to our social media pages Instagram that is Y254 underscore channel, Twitter Y254 channel And most of all go to Facebook page Y254 and talk to us You know there'll be a poster there, there'll be a poster talking with this conversation And I want you to be part of this conversation, suggest opinion or comment About what you think about the show, maybe you want to ask a question to my guest Antoni Moretti Or you want to pass a comment to our guest band today Ian Musani and the band They'll be performing and they've got some great music lined up for you And so today we are focusing on living with this ability And we are talking, we are focusing on people living with different kind of disability But particularly physical disability today And I know, I can imagine what it is to have a family member or yourself Living with a particular form of disability, could be mental, could be physical Could be any other kind of disability and we need to build this culture of inclusivity It can be difficult when you feel rejected, when you don't feel part of the community So there needs to be a two-way movement here from you as an individual who is going through this Living with disability, believing that there is something greater for yourself That just because you have a disability does not mean that your life has ended there And you need to communicate this to the people you care about, the people that you love The people who are in your circle, who by your words of encouragement Who are living this kind of disability, you can communicate to them So it's a movement of those who are living with disability feeling, you know, I matter That I am enough, that my disability is not the end of my life And for those of us who are part of the community that these people live in We can communicate love and acceptance and inclusivity and it's our job to do so So text me in and you'll be part of this conversation I hope you'll enjoy the music coming from Ian Musani. Ian, how are you? I'm doing I mean, it's nice to have you on the show Thank you so much I'm so happy to be here Perfect The two gentlemen don't have mics with them, maybe you can introduce them to us On my right left, I have a... Not to worry, not to worry It's okay, it's okay On my left I have Timo or Tim Ziquituro He's a bassist from, we work in the same band, it's called Saweri Saweri Timo plays bass in our band and we have Baraka They play sax, we're in the same band and we get to work together Absolutely Ian Musani Ian Musani And the music you have is great, like the song you just performed It's an amazing song, I loved it I was on Cloud9 listening to that piece of music Thank you, I'm so happy On composition? On composition, we strictly do our own songs Oh wow So everything you're going to hear tonight, it's our own And I'm sure viewers are going to enjoy what you're going to be singing today I hope so Will they expect to hear something new? Do you have something new coming? Your music is new to most of us True But I know maybe you have something also maybe in the line Yeah, I have a new song that I released like four days ago It's called Nasemaleo, it's a wedding song People can go out and check it out on YouTube It's out on YouTube Just search Nasemaleo by Ian Musani Yeah That's on YouTube you said? Yeah, that's on YouTube What about Instagram, Twitter, Facebook? Instagram, I'm Ian Musani Everywhere, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, everywhere Ian Musani That's amazing, I mean so you've got some great music Thank you so much And I can't wait to hear your next song, please Thank you Do it This one is called Bamba feeds also out on YouTube Oh, perfect Bamba feeds Bamba feeds Bamba feeds Bamba feeds Bamba feeds One of the things that I love about this show The guests that come to my show And also the entertainment that comes on my show The performance is always great And today as you can hear from Ian Musani He is some great music man I mean I love that also Thank you Well, okay, I'll come back to you Ladies and gentlemen, today we're talking about Living with these abilities as I mentioned to you And I want you to go to our Facebook page WhiteFive4 and comment on the post there What do you, you know, suggestion, opinion Or question to my guest Antonio Moretti So Antonio Moretti is the team leader At SafariCom call center And I think it's very important to know What you're saying I think he has a voice He'll be telling us if he has that voice And as I mentioned to you You can also go to our Instagram page WhiteFive4 underscore channel Or Twitter, WhiteFive4 channel We are going to be sampling your comments Your questions and suggestions So go there and be part of this conversation And you can also go to Antonio Moretti's page And see some of the pictures there We'll also be scanning through them And having this conversation with you So be part of this conversation You can also go to my own Facebook page At I am Kamao Mwangi And I'll be reading your comments Welcome, one Antonio to the show Thank you so much It's nice to have you here I'm happy Once again A scientist I think you are here in 2017 2017 Yes And we didn't have a very long conversation then Because of other technical issues But now you're here Finally I'm here again Man is good to have you It's good to be here again Maybe I have already introduced you as Antonio Moretti But you want to tell us a little bit more Of who Antonio Moretti is Moretti Antonio or Antonio Moretti Is the first born in a family of seven Yes, I'm the first born in a family of seven So you had to be a deputy president quickly A deputy parent A deputy parent Marahio And I was born back in Embo But I schooled in Thika and Kikuyu That's a Joy Town special primary school For the physical handicapped And also Alliance High School Kikuyu Also Alliance High School Yes Why are you born this way Physically challenged No, I wasn't born this way I was born what we may call a normal child Or I was working until the age of two But at the age of two I contracted polio And that left me in the state that I am in So the physical challenge that you have right now Is because of polio Yes, polio Usually they say there is a vaccine Yes Your parents delayed the vaccination I'm not sure I've never asked I need to go and find out what really happened Did I get the job Or did I not get the job But, well, it happened And I'm here And you're here now And I'm happy And that's what fascinates me about you That you don't cry about it You have made it into a strength And it has become who you are as an individual Instead of being somewhere on the street Saying help me, you have owned your story You are a team leader at Safaricom Call Center Thank you Could you maybe tell us a little bit about What you do at Safaricom Maybe my journey at Safaricom I started, I've been there now for I've been heading to 12 years 12 years, that's quite a while And I started like what we call A customer care representative My name is Anthony How may I assist you Maybe at some point I served you Then from there I went to the support Which is the backend I've also been in college assurance And currently I'm a team leader What does team leader mean? It means that I'm in charge Of some of the people Within the call center When you call Like 100, 200, 234 15 of some of those people That you talk to Reported directly to me 15 of those people we talk to On those numbers Reported to you Now if someone just does not Talk to me nicely at Safaricom I'll tell them You know Anthony Morey here I know your boss I'm gonna get you fired Alright, alright Since when have you been the team leader now? This is my second year Second year How is it? It's fun It's good About dealing with people Get members who are different And you have to handle them But my greatest joy is When I see people are coming to the company A new news They have just joined They are so green And then through my In my team And I am able to grow them And see them move from one point To the next To another It's one of those Good moments that I enjoy So it's good It's a good experience Oh yes Now let's go back to this topic We're talking about living with this ability We are playing the words disability But with this ability Now I would guess just like For anybody else There have been some low moments But for you Particularly because of this particular disability Could you share with us Maybe what were those particular low moments When you were growing up Yes That may have happened to you Or you have experienced In the initial part of growing up As a child with a disability One of those moments that I did not like Is when guests used to come home Then they would look at me And you know They would start asking my parents What happened to him And then you know There was an expression They usually said Oh a pity That thing used to kill me So it used to kill me And at some point I used to hide When guests came to our place Because I did not want that But then after I went to primary school I found out There are other people Who have other disabilities And I felt like I'm not alone So from there I started picking the pieces But stigma is Let me say it's one of the biggest Or the biggest challenge And this stigma often time Is not because of a point of hatred But misplaced empathy Mis-repeated Of some sort yes Of some sort yes Or what we've been brought up to think You know Mis-conceptions Of people with disabilities For example Like for example When I'm working in town sometimes Sometimes You know I'm just there I bring my own business And somebody just comes Offers maybe five shillings And it's in a hurry But the worst is So you're just doing your business in town Yes And someone walks up to you And starts giving you charity Charity Somebody has described that Some people see People with disabilities as objects of charity But you want to feel a bit philanthropic You just dip their hand in the pocket And get a few coins But that's not the worst I think I have had so many challenges But one of them that was really Really touching is when I was using the Matatu baby By asking me What do I use nowadays But when I was using Matatu What do you do now with this? I drive myself You drive yourself That's a conversation I want us to have Still to see right now Yes There are many accomplishments you have done And I know I think it's amazing But yeah Go on with the story first So these days you're using Matatu Those days Yeah those days When I was old Nowadays a man I hear you I wanted to I was going to work I just joined South Haricom And then I got into a Matatu The way I used to do it As my wheelchair You know the Matatu The way they have The booths are small Or if the booths are big They have big huge music systems So what I used to do is I get my wheelchair Then it is folded Then I squat on the seat Behind the driver This is the 14-seaters So that I don't pay double fare Because at that time I was still tamaking And maybe I was still young in the job So this Matatu I got to number 23 Going to Kanga And when the driver came in Because I got in The Mkanga was telling people to come in When the driver came in And started I wanted to drive He looked back and he saw me Then he asked the Mkanga I need him to know I need him to know Not just the man I need him to know I need him to know I need customers To know This thing is going to To certify the other passengers It was so hearty And he was so furious That the Mkanga had carried this thing And who was that thing? Moradi Antony and his wheelchair It was so bad I had to get off the Matatu Pick a taxi But I said I told myself Of course humanly speaking You feel so bad But I picked the pieces And I said I think what that driver is saying In other words Moradi are too special To be travelling in a Matatu You need to buy your own car That's one of the things That inspired me into that Amazing Wow That's really great Yes Among other things Another one Maybe a quick one I was crossing Uhuru Highway Then there was this Smartly dressed man He came and looked at me I was waiting for the traffic to clear He looked at me And he said on my face I hate these disabled people And he went Right in your face The reason why he hates them I don't know But the question is If he can say that in public In the broad daylight How about if we met in Adaka In Adaka Yes You know When you mentioned that Sometimes I wonder Is it because partly Some of our culture's view Disability or something from the devil Or some form of punishment Or To an extent Yes Some cultures will remember The disability was like A form of curse You know A curse to that family Or a form of punishment And you know Like when I interacted I've interacted with Quite a number of people And you know They have different stories About how people with disabilities Or children who are born With disabilities In their culture What used to happen Some of them used to be thrown Into the forest They are eaten by the hyenas Others used to be hidden Others used to be You know Done all manner of things That is to be shown that You are not part of The human race In other words That you are One of the biggest mistakes That may have happened Into a family But I thank God That my family picked it And they said This is one of our children And we are going to do the very best To ensure that That it gets the best And I am Absolutely whole That our viewers Watching you And listening to you Can be people Who can influence the community You know Immediately around them To realize that As that driver said This is not a thing Or to Allow these heads to go away And realize that We are all equal You know Disabled does not mean An equal That is Should not be Should not be the case Issued it Issued it at all And I like the title That we have given the show today This ability Instead of this ability I don't know When I talk to people I tell them If you look at the word Disability You can decide to look at The broad word D-I-S-A-B-I-L I-T-Y But if you remove The first three letters What do you get? Ability So it is up to us What do you want Do you want to focus On the big word Or do you want to focus On the ability Which is within the bigger word So someone can be fully You can be physically With all the Everything working But you're not You're not doing well in life Either way Mentally Emotionally And you can be Physically challenged But doing pretty well Like you know I'm sure there are Men who are Physically able Right If you could use that word But they're still But you are married You have two children Three now One Oh, one Oh, I thought there's another one But how is the boy doing? He's doing very well He's doing well We do want to come with him today But he's feeling a bit unwell His name is Emmanuel Yes, Emmanuel Yeah, Emmanuel Correct He's now two years and About seven months I'm sure he's watching He's watching And maybe saying Ba ba Ba ba Ba ba is on TV Emmanuel Emmanuel Moremi Emmanuel Moremi, right? Yes, that's his name Emmanuel Moremi Proud of your dad And your wife is also Definitely watching Yes, I'm sure My wife is also watching What's her name? Her name is Jacinta Moseña Jacinta Moseña Yes Now I want to hear that story also Yes How did you get To fall in love? When you were here last time You shared with us Falling in love was Not a walk in the park for you True Would you just tell us The journey to falling In love with Jacinta The journey to falling In love with Jacinta Was after I had Had broken previously And like all men Yes, sure Of course I've taken several ladies out To hold them coffee And you know all that Yes, yes But then how did it happen with Jacinta? We met in town Doing our household Here in Nairobi, right? Yes, here in Nairobi And I looked at her And saw that she was Somebody who was Hardworking Just to say it But don't tell me That's the first thing That attracted you She's hardworking Of course Of course Yeah Then we started communicating What we were doing Is that we're in the same You know this networking Maybe a network Marketing business No, a network So she joined my network And as I was Communicating to people In my network I noted one thing That she's one of the few People who are Responding to my Communication Every time I Send something She had to say something So then I said Okay Then I went to her Facebook I picked her And I befriended her And then we started chatting I can see there's a picture Of you actually On your wedding First of all Wait for it Let's first of all So you started chatting We're going to see That picture in a few So you started chatting With Jacinta Yes Then after that I remember I would call her And we talked For quite a long time Just sharing But one thing That really ended Other than her beauty Of course And by the way For the viewers She's the person With disability Some types of people Think that A person with disability Can only get a A person with a disability But she doesn't have A disability But among other things That I Endured me to her Is that she's hardworking And at no particular time Did she Look In quotes At my pocket She'd not focus On my pocket You know What I mean She was not That's the disability That Maldediga But for her She focused more on You know Just the person And then And then I remember our first date We went to Chamuilu There's a There's a certain hill You know Kambani Chamuilu Yes There's a certain hill You know Kambani Where There's no gravity You know If you pour what it goes up You know You know You know You know You know You know So that's I remember That was our first date And then We were talking And As they say The rest is history But I know I remember One thing I told her Is a fact is that When You have to make your own decision The moment You make a decision To get married tomorrow And Who has a disability People will question People will ask you Whether you do not have choices Another choice And so she was ready She was ready for that She was She was ready But was there some Like blow back against her Or was there some blow back Some What you want her Did it happen From any side She told me from Some friends I got questioned You know They were like Not directly But you know Like Are you sure Is this what you want But for her She had made up her mind But Even from her family The support was Superb Absolutely One thing I came to learn Is that The moment You say This is my choice Don't have much choice Absolutely Let's see Let's see some of the pictures Before we continue The conversation Maybe you could Maybe these pictures Could be enlarged So we can see them More We can start with that one That one Ah yes This is You and your wife She's quite Quite something She is She is She is A beauty That's a Rariting day These are I think he's picking them From Facebook Go back Go back to the selection Go back to the selection Let's see what we have Another one Go back to the selection Of the Of the photos The photos Yes close that one Yes Go Maybe this one You can see this one here Yes there's also that one There's also that Another one The next day Before we got married Ah ok So select the one above here Yeah Here Yes even that one Even that one is ok That one is also good Ok right there Yes Click on that So Oh yeah this is Yes that was Before the wedding Ah ha If you may put it in The languages that Baduri Kwanam Katia Oh look up one I'm going to get a box I'm going to get a box Awesome awesome ah ha We can go back Which one else Any other one This one I like this one This one here in shades man The one on the shades Yeah you look Oh Maniga I like here Ah ha Alright FBI FBI I see you With night vision goggles Ok let's The future is bright Ah ha Yeah it is very bright You need to wear goggles Very very bright Alright Is there another one That you've got That you want to I don't need another one Maybe We can go up We can go up to the one That you with Jacinta Yes You can go up right here Yes this one Ah This one right here Right here yes Yes thank you Yes click on that one Ah good It's an amazing picture That's a yes So after you got married Now you got a son Yes son and as you said Immanuel right Immanuel that's why he was born on 23rd of August 2016 2016 Bouncing baby boy Bouncing baby boy 4.02 kgs Oh so Jamangu Jamangu So we're going to take a break Right now we're going to We'll resume this conversation With Anthony Anthony as I mentioned to you Anthony Murady Is the team leader At SafariCom call center As he mentioned to you And but right now We're going to take a short break And remember to go to our Facebook page Y254 And comment your suggestions Opinion or questions to Anthony Or Ian Musani You want to pass something Please do that We'd like to hear from you What do you think about this conversation What do you think about what Anthony Murady is inspiring us today I would love to be To read your comments So right now I'm going to Give it back to Ian Musani Let's go Alrighty Waiting Exchangers Getting ready For our future life Future life Future life KKC to captain My friends and family We have a good time Honeymoon to Tafiki Ria To learn one thing To Kufura here Let me tell you something My dear Hey oh tuna party Kwan do the after He tuna chafua Well Son My name let me tell you something Kwan do the after Kwan do the after Kwan do the after Kwan do the after Thanks My friend Until my son Kwan do the after Kwan do the after Kwan do the after Go fuller here, let me tell you something, my dear Le'otuna pati kwandu di aftahituna chafua Bills on me, nita nungua Pata'enda kuhimbia, wana juwame nifua I say today, you are going to be my wife I say today, you are going to be my wife Once nase maminawe, once ye Want me to give you... I mean this is so good You want me to give you one more? It's okay, you can do one more You have one more? Yeah, we have one more I mean I'm enjoying this, let's do Nuna chokama dhare, ama pango Kilele shua, ama dando Runda ama mlango, hapokaren Ama sivo kutoka gitomba kaubabini Dreams are valid oji amini Kela si kutuende kazi ni Waki uniza etini, kuanini Washi o rada si safe Ukibe baganuna ipe yama skele kamaue Nara de si safe Ukibe watalanta namushaue hau chazi kamaue Lazi ma kuta chanafu yeye Nisha kamtumbu Washi a lait kwenye giza Lazi ma kuta panapuawe Basite liakru Mr. Fahyame Shafi Kaju rada ni safe Tuna sing along Tuna sing along Rada ni safe Tuli dansa yad Nawe dansa bro Rada ni safe Tuna sing along Tuna sing along Rada ni safe Tuli dansa yad Nawe dansa brod Kudoka geto ma kaubapini Forme ne kuchezana rada Trimsiko valed Iyao pasichezana rada Kudoka geto ma kaubapini Forme ne kuchezana rada Trimsiko valed Iyao pasichezana rada Tu rada ni safe Tuna sing along Tuna sing along Rada ni safe Tuli dansa yad Nawe dansa brod Rada ni safe Tuna sing along Tuna sing along Rada ni safe Tuli dansa yad Nawe dansa brod If you're getting married, by the way, this is a ban to call. They don't charge so much just 100,000. All right, I mean, not so highly. All right, so welcome back as we continue this conversation with living with this ability. And my guest today is Antoni Moradi, team leader at SafariCom call center. And he is sharing with us his beautiful story about his married, his grandson, Immanuel. Immanuel, shout out to you and Jacinta, shout out to you and congratulations for finding this fine gentleman to, to marry and bring him so much joy. So now, Mr. Moradi, you know, one thing that's fascinating about you is you drive. Yes. How do you, how do you drive? I mean, I'm sure there's a question. How, how do you drive? How? How is the question? Yes. Before you go back to how you got the car. First of all, I'm interested. How do you drive? First of all, I drive what they call a normal automatic car. A normal automatic car. Yes, a normal automatic car. If you look at me, I have the left hand that is strong and the right hand that is not strong. My left leg is not as strong, but right leg is a bit stronger. Okay, okay. So what I do is the, you know, the automatic car has only the accelerator and the brake. So that work is done by the right leg. Your right leg, yes. And then the left does all the hand. The steering. Kabisa un nachi kaifi. Okay, thank you. Kabisa. So you have 110 kilometers per hour. Ukosalama. Oh yes. Wow. Yes. So many people, many people don't understand how it works, but that's how it works. Because what I understand is sometimes the car can be modified. Yes. According to the disability you have. True. But yours is no modification at all? Yes. And I know that that's one of the issues that I had because for people with disabilities we are usually tax exempted for such things. And one of the requirements is that the car has to be modified. Now for a car that is modified it means that all the controls come to the hands. Yes. So the condition is both hands must be working. Working. Now I have only one hand that is working. So what I usually tell people is instead of the car being modified for me I am modified for the car. You are modified for the car. You are modified for the car. I am modified for the car. That's really good. Yes. So that's like that. My right leg. My own car is now eight years. Eight years now. But since I started driving it's about eight plus three. Eleven years now. Eleven years now. Yes. That's, I mean your inspiration all around married. You're driving. You have a job. You're contributing. You're happy. I mean this is great. And you studied at the University of Nairobi right? Yes I did. That's where you were a student. Yes. What did you do there? I was at the main campus and I studied economics. Yes. And of course I graduated in the year 2001. That day I was given the power to do. Power to read. To read and do all that up against to the degree. Absolutely. And when you are in the University of Nairobi one of the things that you mentioned was you are a health beneficiary. Yes I did. And you used to save the money that was supposed to be for your living expenses. What was that story? I didn't get it so well. Tell me about it. Okay. You were giving this story but it was not so clear. It wasn't very clear. Okay. I used to get the help loan. And also the bursary. Because I come from what you call Hamburg background. So for me the help loan was really a big boost. I tried as much as possible to do some savings here and there. But by the time I was clearing I didn't have much. But I was able to gather one or two savings that you need for my own upkeep. And after graduating in those days to go to Nanzakazi. Yakutafutakazi. Yakutafutakazi. So I was able to survive for those four and a half years that I was looking for a job. For four and a half years you were looking for a job. Yes of course the little savings that I had ran out. This is the time you are meeting the road driver. Yes that's the time. This is the time you are meeting the road driver. Yes those are the moments. There are so many other things. But that did not really deter me. I was determined. And I fought forward. I remember it's also during that time when the car that I I said I drive which I said I told myself this is going to be my first car. I saw it and at that time I didn't have anything. But whenever I saw it on the street I said this is my car. I want to drive a car. And so I kept moving. I never gave up. I got a lot of support from my brothers, from my sister, from friends. Friends that we work with at the university. Until now I was able to get a job and now I am where I am. And we are happy for you. I mean good for you. For where you are. Thank you. There is one question that someone might ask you. Yes. First with all this you come from a humble background. Which literally means poor. Let's talk about it. And you have this particular disability. It's a roadblock on top of another one. What kept you moving? What prevented you from saying you know what? I am done trying. I am going to sit down somewhere and be a charity case. One thing that I wanted to prove a point. I wanted to prove to those people who are saying that Muridi can't make it. Muridi is disabled. He is not able. I wanted to prove a point. And I wanted to prove that regardless of your state in life what matters is what do you tell yourself. Not what do people say about you. Yes. People may say all matter of things. Unfortunately we don't have control over what people say or think about us. Absolutely. But there is one thing that I am happy about. That as an individual you have 100% control of how to react. So the question is how do you react? What do you tell yourself? So I will tell myself that this is what they think about me. It's okay. That's their opinion. That's what they think about me. But what do I think about myself? And I will tell myself that Muridi, you are a great man. You are going to be a successful person. And you are. And people are going to look at you. You are going to be an inspiration to someone. Again. And of course, thank you. Of course I am a Christian. So I also drew a lot of inspiration and comfort from the Bible. Absolutely. And especially the story of the blind man who people brought to Jesus. And people, the disciples were asking, who sinned for this man to be born blind? Is it him or the parents? And Jesus said, none of them. He's like that. So that the name of God may be glorified. So I also say, I'm like this. So that the name of God may be glorified. And by the way, I'm a Sunday school teacher. Oh, you are Sunday school teacher. Amazing. Yeah, St. Paul's, right? I am the St. Paul's. Now, you know, there is that point you have before we even ask you this point, I want to encourage our viewers to go to our Facebook page, Y254 channel. There are pictures posted about our conversion that you're having here. Go to our Facebook page. And as I mentioned to you, comment there, ask a question, say something to Antonin Muradio, say something to Ian Musani. Our Facebook page is Y254 and would like to hear from you. All right. So go there, do that. I'm going to be reading you out in a bit. You say, you know, you brought this story about that I am this way. So God's name is going to ask, what kind of God gives a person disability so that he might be glorified? I mean, good one. Good question. That's a good question. And it's one of the things that I struggled with as I was growing up, that if really God is a loving God, why didn't he give me legs as we put them like other people? Why did he have to create me or make me be on a wheelchair? But he realized that God gives us different things for different purposes. So, and my thinking was and what my conclusion was after reading all that is that God allowed me to be this way so that I may become a vessel of demystifying disability, giving hope to even people who are living with disability. Absolutely. And also giving hope to those people who are without disabilities but who feel they are worse off. Sometimes I ask people I'm a motivational speaker. When I go to motivate people, I ask them if when you sit down and you say you can't and I ask them this question if today you are not like Mauritius Antony whose right hand is dealt is this way. So if your right hand is not like this, if today your two legs are able to support you, if today you can be able to go upstairs without assistance and like Mauritius Antony was we carried upstairs. What excuse do you have to sit back and say that I can't? Yes. That's the big question. So I think God made me that too so that I can be asking people. To challenge people to be grateful for what they have. To be grateful, yes. I think that to be someone seeing you if anything that can come from the heart is a sense of gratitude that wow, if Antony can do all that with this disability, with this ability as you are saying then I should be able to do even more, even much more. Yeah, absolutely. So my final question in this regard now you've talked about you being inspirational and all that and you're finding the grace of God in your experience. Yes. Now, you have a son, right? Yes. And you have a family and this becomes your social support if I could say. Yes. How important is someone with a certain disability to have social support? How important is it? Simply put, very, very, very important. I should say that the father being able to come is because I got a lot of support from home, from my parents, from the siblings that when I went out there outside home and the world was harsh to me. I would still I had a place where I could fall back and find people who were saying this is still one of us. This is still our son. This is still our brother. This is still our, you know, one of us. And I like the way my parents brought me up. They were not so yeah for me. No. I'm the first born whether and I had to be an example. I remember even sometimes being gained. In fact, I was being kept whenever I did something wrong I had to be gained whether I'm crawling on the ground or what I had to be gained. And the question they were asking me what picture are you or rather what example are you showing to your brothers and sisters? You're the first born whether you that's your title. That's your position. You need to show good example. Yeah. And I think that really, really, really brought me to be the person that I am today. So that social support is very, very important. Very essential. Along my life I've seen people who were both rejected by this is something that happens some people are rejected even at home because of a disability. Like we said in some cultures people think a person with a disability is a curse. So if this person is a curse is a bad woman then we need to get rid of the person. So you can imagine a person who gets out of is rejected from the family and then goes out there and is rejected by the world. That person I've seen some of my brothers and sisters with disabilities committing suicide because of that. That's a that's a that's a little sad. Yes. So you need to be accepting of people living with disability. Yes. And on the other side they should avoid the OYE attitude. That's what you're saying. The pity. They need to have what we call tough love. Tough love. Yes it is tough but it's love. You are loving. You know you need to let the person know that God knows of this this is expected of you. Absolutely. But the OYE attitude sometimes doesn't it makes a person become just there. OYE and everything that comes is just the person. But so they need to show tough love and they need to support them in the best way possible. Absolutely. What we call reasonable accommodation even in workplaces even the environment even everywhere as a society we need to do what we call a reasonable accommodation for people living with disabilities. Why reasonable? Because some of us people with disabilities we want to get everything to be done for us you know because I need these because I'm positive it is no we know we have to get we have to be reasonably accommodated without disadvantage other people. Other people. That's a good point. It's a good point at least coming also from you you know. So Antoni Moridi I'm humbled that you are you accept to come to my show I really appreciate. Appreciate it. Thank you for sharing with us your story. I don't know if you maybe you look at that camera maybe pass a few words of how we can be promote a culture of inclusivity. What I can say is that to promote a culture of inclusivity what we need to do is just to to see it's coming up. Sorry. Yes. Sorry. So to promote a culture of inclusivity what we need to do and to understand is that disability is not a choice anybody and everybody is a candidate of disability meaning that instead of looking at disabilities as other people's issue let us embrace it because today I could be working and we have seen some cases and something happens the following day that gets a disability. The question is does life stop? No. Does that person become useless? No. So we need to embrace and include them and reasonably within the systems we need to be conscious of that we have people who are living with disabilities when we are coming up with structures when we are coming up with programs when we are coming up with policies let's also remember that we have people who are able to differently living with disabilities and today it's them and tomorrow it could be you so let's all love each other accommodate each other because even for the person with disability there is an ability in disability. Awesome. I love that. Thank you so much Mr. Antonio Moretti team leader SafariCom call center it's been an amazing conversation with Mr. Antonio and I hope you have enjoyed this conversation I'm going to give it back to Mr. I'm going to give it to Ian Sani and the band to give us their final performance and if there are some sent in I'll be reading them but for now thank you so much for being part of this conversation and I hope that you will be spreading that love and acceptance people living with disability and that you will show them that they have an ability and you'll not fall in that trap of the way or you know excluding them let's make Kenya more inclusive in our work places in our universities in our schools next time good night the action take it away the action take it away Ian Sani and the band that's amazing songs right there and I've loved every minute of it thank you so much Ian Sani even as I read the comments I just want to say that has been beautiful thank you so much alright okay okay I'm told so that I can be heard alright perfect Zoe Patricia I'm watching now I'm reading the comments from Facebook that you have sent in even though I had said goodbye but I want to I want to show you the comments there is Zoe Patricia saying I'm watching and I'm so so much encouraged Anthony is such an inspiration and a great motivator I'm from member just like him and would like to wish and I would wish to meet him one day I'm also in the disability club sorry my phone just went off how can one get his contact it sure is a great show thank you so much Zoe would you like to pass on your a way that people can contact you those who want to they can get in touch with me via via the Facebook so Facebook page someone can inbox you from there Murady Anthony yeah Murady Anthony okay Murady Anthony they can also go to I've been Twitter Twitter sorry at Murady Anthony also at Murady Tony M-U-R-I Tony T-O-N-I-E Murady Tony T-O-N-I-E perfect thank you so much I hope Zoe Patricia have heard of that there are two accounts and you can text on both he's going to respond to you then Josphat Matmusioka you're always watching and thank you so much for that Ian Bigup alright and I'm watching from Konza Murady has an amazing story thank you so much Josphat Oscar Odiombo hello Ian I'm Oscar Odiombo I'm watching you live from Kisi town I'm happy with your guest Anthony Murady and I want to tell that being disabled is God's plan okay thank you Oscar Odiombo and also I think he is also saying he's passing his regards to you Ian and your team Keplagat Jaffan Chelemgeng Akian Acero alright from Acero Village Kabisaaga word Nandi County watching live Kamakawaida thank you so much Keplagat then we have Fatima Sameer hello Naito Fatima Kutoka Eeringa Tanzania Mimimgeni Wewe Una Tanzania Kutoka Tanzania Dangu Safisana Fatima then Kunaliz Kesi God you so glorified no one compared to him thank you so much Liz Kesi now there is also Caribbean king saying I like him now I don't know if he likes Ian or he likes alright so thank you so much for your comments keep them coming and thank you for watching the Pawtalk show and it's been a wrap God bless good night see you sometime bye 254 imagine