 What's good, Joshua boros back again with another video. So we're going to check out Ember Moon on frustrations with WWE creative man. This is going to be an interesting one because Ember Moon in my opinion was someone I was really looking forward to like actually doing like like prospering on the main roster like she did on NXT on NXT. She was fantastic. I love what they were doing with her when she came up to the main roster. I'm like, Hey, man, she should be the next next star in the women's division and she was plagued with injuries and then WWE didn't seem like she captured the momentum that she had from NXT. Then they brought her back down to NXT and I don't know, man. It just I felt like they didn't really utilize Ember Moon to her max maximum potential. I don't think they really, in my opinion, from what I could tell outside of the injuries and stuff. I don't think they really realized what they had in a in a talented women's wrestler like Ember Moon. She can go, you know what I'm saying? And people definitely was liking her character in the ring. So I'm not sure, you know what went wrong, but maybe she will explain what was some of the issues she was dealing with. But appreciate all love and support, man. Let's get right to this. And I'm very excited to see what she has to say. We're starting to feel like you weren't loving it. You weren't having fun anymore. Do you feel like in a way it became full circle after you get signed that there was a point where you're like, this isn't as fun as I thought it was going to be. Oh, yes. And I'm okay. We're going to talk about it. I feel like I feel like I feel like I need to talk about it just to get it off my chest and to get it out there in the universe. Because my last four months was just one of those moments that I wasn't having fun anymore. And it started with Shotzi being gone and Shotzi being drafted. And I remember like thinking like, I was sitting at home and I got a phone call saying, Hey, we don't want you to be upset. But Shotzi just got moved to Smackdown and she is debuting with Tegan Knox as a tag team. And I just was sitting there and I was like, I was playing D&B the most beautiful day of my week and I'm getting a phone call about how Shotzi's been drafted. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm so happy for her. And then like the tag team thing popped out. And I was like, but we're the tag team and we have merch and we're doing fun things. And we had just finally gotten into our groove of the banter. And it was just like, but they're like, don't worry, we have stuff for you. When someone says, don't worry, you probably should already be worrying. And I was like, okay, cool, cool. And I remember like going to Hunter and Hunter was just like, I have no clue what's happening. We'll figure it out together. See, and this is what a lot of people in the wrestling community, I think a lot of us kind of had a feeling Triple H didn't really have no idea when it came to what they were going to do with them on a main roster for the most part. Like Triple H did all he could to like help cultivate them to who they are for, you know, the WWE brand. But Vince ultimately has ultimate say so in anything related to WWE at this point, what he always has for the most part. So when it comes to Vince and you know, what they feel like, you know, what Vince feel like characters should be and how they should be presented on the main roster, Triple H doesn't really have much say so and control as much as we would want it to be. You would think it would just be a simple NXT main roster, keep them the same for the most part, maybe switch up tweak stuff here and there, but you don't really have to do too much. And Vince be like, nah, we got to change this. We got to change this. We got to do this. We got to, you know, we got to now we got to switch it up. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, man, it just it just sucks because Triple H did a lot of great for NXT, but you don't see much of it on the main roster. You rarely see any of the greatness he had in NXT. You don't see that transfer into the main roster. And like that was like so much of what I needed at that time because no one really knew what was happening. You know, Bayley had gotten injured and they I know Shotzi and Tegan were going to do dark matches for a tryout anyway, you know, and they were like, well, we already had these girls here. Let's throw them out there. But the problem I had was kind of like some of the newer writers were like coming from Rod coming from SmackDown. We had no idea you and Shotzi were a tag team. And like just sitting there and just a lot of how WWE backstage is having to play the game of like, oh yeah, man, it's cool. We get it. We're down here at NXT. It wasn't like we weren't front page of calm or anything when we won the titles. But that's fine. Yes, that doesn't come on. I don't here's the other thing. I think I talked about it in my recent video. I'm not sure what video I talked about it on when I was talking about sometimes Vince needs to let the writers kind of breathe and let them come up with some creative stories and kind of roll with their ideas since you hired them. But then also they need to hire people to actually give a damn about wrestling and the integrity of wrestling and the actual business because you you can't care about WWE if you didn't know they were champs. You can't care. Well, not that much. Like you got to be willing I don't know man. I don't know. It's just it's just a mess sometimes with WWE and their booking and their creative team. Sometimes and you're just having to I guess eat the shit sandwich and smile with shit in your teeth. A lot of the times because it's all about not making waves and it's just like, okay, yeah, it's fine. Cool. Yeah, I bet you didn't know we were a tag team. Look at shop. Look at this, you know, and it's just like, okay, cool. And it was like, you know, me and Hunter and the head writer at the time we had all came up with we're gonna do a heel turn for me because that's new that something different. And before that we wanted to do like a losing streak. And or at least that was my thought is let me do the losing streak. I see all these new faces coming through here. My part of my job at NXT was to help new talent on TV. You know, which I which I get that you know, I've been around for a very long time. Or like, and I've been doing this what like 1617 years at this point in time, you know, and it was like, you know, and I and I love this business so much that I didn't mind. I was like, hey, let me go on a losing streak. Let me get super frustrated. I like that. Okay, right. That sounds something different for our character. Great idea. We got ABCDF. We're going to do your first feud with this person or this person. And then the first match happens and then I'm off TV for four weeks. What? And then I'm like, okay. They're like, don't worry, we got this. We got this. Then like Hunter disappeared. And then I was supposed to do a match with that. Once Hunter disappeared. It wasn't much. It wasn't much. I'm telling you, it wasn't much. Even, you know, despite his, you know, serious illness, you know, serious medical situations he was dealing with. Once Vince got involved, it was raps. It was definitely raps for like some of your the OG, the black and gold NXT crew. Surrey. And I ended up getting a rash on my arm. And I had an allergic reaction to something that they thought was something else. So they pulled me from the match. And I was like, okay, cool, whatever. That's fine. All right, we're going to keep trucking. They're like, hey, we'll do this match next week. And then another three weeks later, they're like, hey, we're going to do this match. That match gets pulled from TV. And then, you know, one of the head coaches goes, hey, will you do me a favor and work 205 live with Korra Jade? We really like her. She's a sweet girl. We really think this would be a fun match. You two are in the main event of 205. And I was like, okay, cool. That sounds great. Like I'm never going to say no to having a match on TV regardless of where it's airing or whatever like that. And me and Korra go out there and we have just a fun banger of a match. And they're like, yeah, you guys, and they go, you're turning in this match, but we want to make it subtle. Right. So they kind of turn me, but they don't. And then there was like a lot of, I don't know, confusion on what was supposed to happen. And then some kind of way, I remember going online to be like, did, did Ember turn heel? Did she? And like that, I was like, I don't know if I turned heel or not. You know, and then off TV for three weeks and I have the match with Mandy. And they're like, we're, we're finally pulling the trigger on this. And I get a note that week saying, Hey, in two weeks, we need you to dye your hair, fire colored again. We need you to get the red contacts. You're going back to the old Ember Moon character. That's this is Pervance. And we want you, you're going to turn heel, but you're going to turn heel as your old character. We're trying to get the old music and all that stuff together. And I was like, all right, great. This is great. So I go home, get my bottle whiskey. I'm dying this hair because I have to hand dye that myself. It takes an astronomical amount of time. You do it all yourself. Wow. Yes. I dyed my hair extensions that fire colored ombre takes a minimum of eight hours. God. Damn. It is extremely tedious and like mind you during COVID, my dye supplier actually shut down. So I'm having to find different colors and I'm spending a fortune on this hair. And two weeks later, I show up to TV. I'm like super motivated. I'm happy. And I'm like, okay, it's finally looking up for me. You know, just wait it out, just wait it out. And I remember Ryan Katz and I went and filmed like a kind of demo of kind of the vibe that I wanted. And I was like, and he's like, this could be awesome. Da da da. Yeah. Come back. I get the video ready. I'm ready to show everyone after TVs and they go, Hey, we got some bad news. Oh, no. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? I just I got this video. No, Vince is pulling you off TV indefinitely. What? And I just kind of sat there and I was just like, what? What did I do wrong? What the fuck? Why? He's like, you did nothing wrong. And I was like, I have done everything that you guys have asked me. I have gone over and what in the hell? What type of someone explained to me the logic? You tell them, hey, do this. We're going with the old gimmick. You're about to be a heel. She's excited. I think a lot of us fans were like, holy shit, the old Emra Moon is back with the hair and the music. She's a heel now. Let's get this going. Just to show up and be like, ah, nah, we're pulling you from TV indefinitely. Why? What did I do? What the? Love. Like, I can't express to you like when they put me in shots in a tag team, everyone knows everyone backstage knew like I'm not a tag team person. I hate tag teams because there's just too many moving parts. And it's not that I hate tag team wrestling. It's just that it requires so much more to give versus relying just on yourself for that. You have to rely on like three other people in the ring to make sure everything's on point, which is fun. And I felt like me and Shotzi capitalized on it. And we were just so motivated within that tag team to build a division. And then we weren't able to. But like me showing up to that TVs and it's like two a.m. And I just remember sitting there and I was like, I've done everything you guys have asked me to. I've done over and beyond. I've branched out. I'm sorry, I'm getting emotional about it. I'm trying not to, but I understand like this is the dream job, especially like salaries of wrestling fan, like long wrestling fan. And when you when you care about something and you care about this business so much more, not just for yourself, but for everyone involved, it hurts so much more because for so many years, I've been not about myself. If that makes sense, I've been for the match for the other people and to be told that I have done nothing wrong. And I was taken off TV for doing absolutely nothing wrong. It hurts so bad because I was so happy walking into work. And I remember what Shotzi left. I remember going to my makeup artist and going, I'm so unhappy. I'm so unhappy. And we'd have to sit through stupid meetings about how we would have to dress sexy. And I remember looking at someone else like I cater to children. I am not about to wear fishnet booty, but cheek shorts because we had a two hour meeting about how to dress like Mandy Rose. Damn. That's not fair. Not everyone is going to be Mandy. Mandy is absolutely phenomenal. And she is an amazing person, but not everyone is Mandy Rose. And that's like, I started seeing this downslope as soon as Hunter was gone. And like for the first little bit, we didn't know why he was gone. We just knew he wasn't there, you know. And so it became this like, I got so angry. And we don't we got to put respect on Triple H name because he did all he could to make NXT what it was, bro. Oh, man. Duh, this is this is heartbreaking. Holy. And I remember sitting there and I was like, I did nothing wrong. I didn't piss offense. I didn't I said, you take shots away from me. Now Hunter's gone. You know, and I said, like, you guys promise me this wouldn't happen. You guys promise I wouldn't be lost in the shuffle. And I said, I went on this losing streak to help you guys out to help build other talent. So I could get a reward. And they were like, well, don't not everything's lost number. You know, we still want you to come and help out the next generation, maybe teach a class, maybe, you know, do some PC lives, which is the student show in front of no fans. And I'm just like, so you're taking me off TV. And you're trying to make me a coach. And I just remember like laughing. And I was like, you know what, I said, if I've done nothing wrong, I said, you can cancel all my flights. I said, I'm not coming to help these people that do not care about what I do. They only care about the paycheck that hits their bank account. They're not passionate like me. I'm not going to come up here and help these people that don't care about what we do when there's no benefit for me. When I've done nothing wrong, when I've given you my entire right side of my body between my elbow surgery and my Achilles surgery, I've given you this entire side for no reward, not even a thank you. And like, you want me to coach, you want to take me off TV to come coach and I just, I remember just like sitting there a moment and I got teary. I just like that. He's like, are you okay? I go, no, I'm not okay. I said, this is what you can do. I said, I'm not coming up here to coach. I said, I'm not coming up here to do your PC shows. I said, I was supposed to come to NXT to repackage and then go back up to me and roster that was supposed to be within the year, but I'm still here. You took Shotzi away from me. I said, I have nothing to go off of. I said, so I'm going home. I said, cancel all my flights, cancel all my hotels. I said, if you have a flight there and you have no creative for me, I'm not getting on the flight. I said, I'm not doing this anymore because I am going to snap and it's either going to be on you or it's going to be on a talent. So I am going to go home and I said, you leave me there till you have something for me. And I said, and even then I said, I need to approve the creative before I hop on the flight. And it's the first time I've ever pulled this card. And I remember thinking, I think I just quit the entire time. I was like, oh buddy, for three months you've been saying like, yeah, I think I'm going to quit today. Yeah, I'm going to quit today. And then I actually did. And I remember just kind of getting real small and quiet and like I was yelling. I was yelling because I was so angry. And I remember one of my last promos that I ever cut on the indies just kind of flashed in my head is that like, well, you know, I hope I don't come back here. But if I do, we all know it's because of my mouth. And I remember that flashing in my head. I just kind of laughed at myself and I was kind of crying. And I had gotten a couple. The worst part about this is that on some level, I knew that I was leaving. I had already gone and bought an extra bag and kept it in the locker room. So I can pack all my stuff and like it had been there for like a month. And I was just like, I'm so unhappy. Like I see where this is going between the booty but cheek shorts meeting and like them telling girls to alter their gear to make it more revealing. And some people were very uncomfortable with that. And they were like, Nope, this is what they want. You got to do it. It didn't matter how that person felt. And I was like, this isn't what I signed up for anymore. This isn't about the wrestling. This isn't about the art that we create in the ring. This is turning into everything that I left on Ron Smackdown. You could just see if the pity parties started forming in the locker rooms. And that's crazy. Literally when that when Vince took over and they came up with NXT 2.0, that pretty much was it, bro. They literally wanted to they wanted it to be Ron Smackdown light. Are there some good things on the show? Yeah, there are some good things on the show. Granted, I stopped watching it. I just I just because it's Monday Night Raw light. It's Smackdown light. Like Monday Night Raw and Smackdown. There's a few cool segments and everything else is kind of just it's like a toss up. It's not it's not wrestling more, more or less. It's more about the entertainment aspect of it. So, oh, man, that's that's so sad to hear. The jealousy and the cattiness. Well, why is this person on TV and why is she can't do this and I just was sitting there and I was just like, I'm an adult. I can't deal with this high school bullshit. And I'd be like, guys, it's okay. You know, and I'd be that locker room leader because if I didn't, it would just go into the negative zone and no one would be able to have any type of positivity and everyone would hate the job that we have all worked so hard to be at. Yo, I bro. Amen. I will say this. Ember Moon. Yo, that's sad. She went through that, bro. That is so sad. Outside of the injuries and stuff like I really was hoping they would really do something with her, bro. And just to see how things turned and how she was feeling, man. It was like, yo, this is not it's not something that she loved anymore. Like she wasn't loving what was happening. And that's that's sad, bro. To be told, we ain't got nothing for you, but you know what I'm saying, you know, you can do something. You can be a coach or something that sucks for them to tell you, and we want this we're going back to your old gimmick. He'll all this great things. You getting excited just to show up and be like, nah, man, you can be a coach, though. That's kind of I'm gonna be honest with you. That's messed up, bro. That's and you can tell that still hurts her because she got so emotional. Obviously that hurt her. That's messed up, bro. That's oh, man. Once Vince got a hold of NXT and had his people take over it, it was done. It was wraps. It wasn't the same. It wasn't the same. And this is what happened to some of the individuals. Some are, you know, our favorite wrestlers from the NXT black and gold era. That's cold, bro. I don't even know what to say. That's hard. That's that's that's sad, man. I really don't even know what to say to that. I'm just kind of like, you know, I'm oh, man. Damn, bro. That's messed up, bro. Hey, but I'm glad that she's, you know, you know, I think she's doing her thing on the independent scene or whatnot. So as long as she's happy and what she's doing, that's all that really matter. If if I don't take anything from this video, man, do not settle. If you're passionate about something and you want to go for it, go for it. But do not let anybody derail that for you, no matter how much money they're throwing at you or whatever they say, do not settle. Do not settle. Keep your passion alive as long as you can. And if you can't keep it alive with whoever you're working with, keep taking somewhere else, bro. Do not settle for any reason, bro, because you'll end up hating the thing that you love so much. But yeah, man, comment down below. Let me know, man. Did this this like this whole little interview, did this kind of like hit you guys? Because it kind of hit me, man. That was sad. That was so messed up, bro. Oh man, that was truly messed up in WWE. They need to do better with like taking care of the talent that that literally didn't give their all to them. They got to do better with that because that was that was cold blooded, bro. But I appreciate all the love and support. Road to ADK. Appreciate y'all kicking me. See y'all next time. Peace.