 team, committees across the country are doing a very commendable job. I think we should give them a pat on the back. There are so many defections which are taking place, which are not covered by you, the media. But I can tell you that the things are happening out there. Over the years things are happening. Now then, even in some problems, fortunately this time, we have people that are defecting, but quietly. And that will only be seen when August 12th comes, when the results are being counted. But I think we are doing very well, as you have seen, in fact, most especially in those areas where some of us took UPND. I think we have started, you know, backtracking. We have realized that I think the Edgar Chagolungu government is a government to be with. Because they have seen there's been a lot of tremendous development in this country. Not only that, most countries, I'll tell you, they are going through a lot of economic hardships. Just to mention a few of our neighbors. If you go to Kimbabu, go to Malawi, go even to South Africa, which is, as far as Africa is concerned, is a superpower. But it has challenges. Most South Africans have lost their jobs. Coming back to the other question that we are asked to say, is Dr. Edgar Chagolungu going to become victorious? I think that is not debatable. If you look at 2011, 2013, when we actually phoned up, so 2011, 2011, you can see that there was what we call the wind of change. You could see it coming. But have you seen any form of wind of change in this country, including Lusaka, including the southern province itself? There hasn't been that view for people to change the Edgar Chagolungu government. There hasn't been. Because why? They have seen what he has actually done. It's incredible, incredible. I think we should take my part on the back and give the vice president the entire cabinet, the entire system. They are doing the command of the floor. So to me, as far as I'm concerned, I think August 12th will be white-wash this time. I want to tell my brother, I think to go into retirement, he should start preparing my brother, to prepare to go into retirement. Because even this time around, even the little votes that he got in certain areas, because of our influence, do not get that. It will be impossible. Who are campaigning for him? It's us who are campaigning for him. We are not there to campaign for him. Is Nalumango going to campaign for him? She has no political clout. Everyone knows that. Even in her own constituency, she has no support. In Nicariputa, she has no support. So I don't think you can do it. She would even think of forming government, come August 12th. It's far from it, far from that fact. We are on course at BF. We have delivered, President Nalumango has delivered. Most people are happy. Look at Lusaka, the way it looks today. If you went to job again, came into Lusaka, it won't seem different. What else do we want to see? Of course we understand that the economic hardship, which has not only hit, not only hit Zambia, it has hit the entire globe. America today is giving out three money, $3,600 to each citizen because they have the money. They are a giant superpower. If we had that kind of money, I am pretty sure that President Nalumango would have done the same because he's a wise man. And the other thing is, I think we saw something on the paper where Mr Achilema is confident that he's going to win the elections because President Nalumango has failed. In which way? How has he failed? President Nalumango, in fact, has gained credibility. In fact, I will not mention other presidents, previous presidents. He has gained more credibility than even some previous presidents. He has done a lot for this country. In his humbleness, we have seen he has done a lot. I think we should give him a pat on the back. And most Samyans are saying that we are on the ground. We are on the ground. We are seeing what people are saying. People are saying that they still want President Nalumango. The country still needs beyond for President Nalumango because of what he has done or what he has continued doing. And I'm happy that he hasn't stopped his developmental program. He has continued despite the opposition opposing even good things because today the opposition will even oppose that why have they put a fly over bridge? They don't realize that traffic is growing every day here in Lusaka, including other small towns. So the government, that's their duty to ensure that they decongest that congestion which is any city in the country but they don't look at it that way. I think they should just learn to accept that President Nalumango is the best president for this country for now. Okay. I also want to... How do you make over this type of reason? To me it's a genuine apology. I did, I went, I came back. We are the owners of fear. We came back. We apologize to President Edgar Lungo because President Edgar Lungo knows GBM well, knows he can be very well, knows he can have a very well. That's why he can afford to accept that apology. I'm sure even President Edgar Lungo has accepted that apology wholeheartedly. And Ramburi's apology, it's not by fluke. Ramburi means he knows that his home is in PF. It's not in UPND. UPND used me, they got what they wanted, almost getting to power. But thank God because they all might knew that if he got into power this country would be going to flame. He never allowed that. He bypassed it. But what I'm trying to say is that Camburi I think has done the right thing to apologize to President. That's how people should live. We all make mistakes. I've made mistakes, all of you have made mistakes. But if you don't apologize, then that means you're not admitting your mistake. But Camburi has accepted this mistake. So why shouldn't it be welcome? In as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a genuine, sincere apology that he has rendered to the President, including our brother, Finley. And are you seeing him coming back today? He's more than welcome. We've said that. Me, I personally have said that time and again, but we need him. He's one of us. We started PF with him. So I think it would be a good idea for my brother to come back. Because there is nothing that is doing with that alliance. I'm glad that there are those confusions which I personally predicted. I knew that HH cannot keep Camburi. Moreover, you see, HH thinks that he should use people. So I knew that he was coming back. But what I want to say is that our brother and all the people that he went with, they are more than welcome back into PF. My brother is here. I think he's ready to welcome them. He has no problems with anyone. He's a good guy. He's a good lad that I can tell you. Maybe the other thing, we have seen you as a mobilization team, concentrating especially in the northern part of the country and seem to neglect Lusaka and the Kupapilot where these voters also went. I know the areas where I actually built UPND. So I need, first of all, to dismantle those areas. Because in northern province I can see even on social media some are saying these are the areas where I made UPND go. No, it's not debatable. Even President Dhaka in the dilemma knows that. I made that thing grow, that party grow. So what I've done is that I've concentrated in those areas and I have made it sure that most of the people have defected back into PF, not into any other party. That's what we are doing. But I think without wasting much of your time I want to tell you that quietly we are doing it here. Just before you came already we are talking about perceiving defectors. Some defectors don't want to go public. Some defectors want to do it quietly and we are doing it as the way they wish it should be done. So I think we are home and dry. We know that we have received more defectors than what UPND has received. UPND they are faking at PF defecting to UPND. That's a total lie. If they are there, there may be three or four. There may be three or four. But large numbers are coming to us because they have seen the wise and good leadership and able leadership of Dr. Hissier.