 Is this a half now though? Yeah. They don't have packers, you need to have them on. It's actually a fine if you don't, for each packer you don't have. Even just within, what has it been, 40 minutes and I've learned more than I probably did in the four years, just going around and doing, I can talk about the pre-trip but it's different when you actually open the hood of the truck. I have worked with some amazing drivers over the years and even though I will only be able to experience a small part of it, I want to better understand the challenges that are endured while living a life on the road. Hey guys, it's Tiffany. Just wanted to say thank you to Jenny for stepping in this week and I hope you guys have a fun and safe trip. Let's get over here with this dog. From what I hear, they're gonna put in a dump park somewhere around here. Dump park would be nice because you usually can't go into the terminal very much. That'd be good. Hopefully they do you like shade it too because you get so hot in the summer and these dogs need it. Yeah. It's too hot in their collars. So we don't have any kids yet and so my husband and I were talking about, I was like, oh, we should have a second, we should have a second baby, our second little pup. And he goes, no, no, the one will get too jealous. Ernie. Yeah, it's possible. Ernie, I'm telling you, my husband won't put in a dog door because he wants to have a moment. He wants to take the dog out to go to the bathroom, give him its treat. He wants to give the one. It's a whole nother level. And one morning, this is the best. I woke up one morning to go get ready and I get up a little bit earlier than he does and I come back in, we weren't like, we were just normal sitting and I come back in the room and the dog's in the bed and he's sitting there with his hand on her head, looking at each other, stroking, like, and telling her, you're so beautiful. I don't like, you don't even do that to me. So I've been in recruiting for almost four years now and I've never heard the same story twice on why a guy got into trucking. It's always something crazy. I mean, sometimes it's like, oh, my, you know, it's a family thing or something like that, but why'd you get into it? I started off working, delivering patio furniture, you know, small box trucks. I'm going to go from here to Vegas, here to Tucson. After that company, I went to a storage, mobile, not mobile storage. We delivered, set up and installed storage, like backyard ones. Yeah, this thing ain't getting me anywhere. So that's when I decided to get my CDL and start driving. So what year was that? That was back in 2003. I do tend to overlook. Connecting the airlines and the electrical. Now we should have lights on the trailer. There's two plaques missing, so now I'm going to call Scott and see if he has any plaques left. Is this a half-nowlode? Yeah. Where are we going? Chamber, Rincum. Basically, they don't have placards. You need to have them on. It's actually a fine, for each placard you don't have. So what's a placard on it? That white corrosive? Oh yeah, so let's see if he has a couple and then he'll slap two of them on and he's gone away. Of course, Jenny, what's a placard? The white thing over there. What's the white thing over there? No, I think over there. What's it for, though? I don't know, we can find it, don't worry. We can find it over there. It is basically to let them know that there's a grossed material on it and then the numbers are telling you what type of material it is. So these don't count, it has to be on the back? No, there has to be all four. All four, oh, okay. So one in the front, one in the back and two on the side. So we only have two, Ernie? Yep. So we have to go on and pick up some plaquards? Yeah. You mean Jake's not gonna be nice if you bring them out to us? I don't think Jake's in the office yet. You wanna tell the world why you're doing this right along? Just, and then maybe give a shout out to Tiffany because she's in Ireland right now. Yeah. So I'm the guest, celebrity guest this week, I guess you could say. My name is Jenny Tyler. I'm the director of the recruiting department. I've worked with the squire department and now I work exclusively with the experience department. I've been with Knight for years now and it's crazy. I've never done a ride along. Talked to drivers all day long and I know what's going on but when Tiffany asked me, she's Tiffany's in Ireland on a trip. So jealous because I went there last year. It's amazing. So she asked me to come in for her this week and I said, heck yeah, let's do it. And I already just, I talk to the drivers all day, every day for the last four years and even just within, what has it been, 40 minutes and I've learned more than I probably did in the four years just going around and doing, I can talk about the pre-trip but it's different when you actually open the hood of the truck, looking at the fuel levels, talking about that, talking about the fifth wheel pole and going around just talking about when he's backing into it. I mean, I didn't know he does huge jolts when we get going and it's just, it's different being in the truck and feeling the day to day and like you and I were just talking about it. Just, you have that urgency, like I'm such a type person that even just getting going, I'm like, you can tell you need a lot of patience and you can tell Ernie knows what he's doing and he knows that, you know, we'll get there. It's all about the safety and about getting the stickers on the truck and it's different being on this side. So it's kind of cool, just 40 minutes into it seeing already all the things that I had no idea being with Knight for four years. This is our HazDocs which is basically telling us the information of what it is, how much it weighs, how many are in there. In case we get pulled over. Yeah. And then who do you call? All that good stuff. So you and I were talking earlier about how I played college softball. I played at, so I came out, I grew up here in Phoenix. So I'm one of three girls where my poor dad kept trying. The girl jackpot there. And we're all one year apart too. Yeah, we're all one year apart. And he was not gonna accept that his girls were not gonna play sports. So all my sisters and I, I'm the youngest of three. And we all played college softball. My oldest actually played softball and soccer. So we were all big Tom boys and always getting dirty and throwing the ball around and stuff like that. So I got the opportunity to play in college and got a scholarship for it. And I went, grew up here in Phoenix and I went to Northwestern University. Played there for a couple of years. And then finished out my time and my master's at California State Northridge in LA. So I wanted to get out because obviously born and raised here in Phoenix wanted to experience something new and what's different than Chicago. Awesome, awesome city and great experience. It's actually kind of funny because growing up here in Phoenix, you're go, oh yeah, I've been to Flagstaff. I've seen the snow. So let me tell you, Ernie, let me tell you something. So my freshman year, I was living in the dorms and I was roomed with a field hockey player who's from Chicago. Little tiny girl like sweetest person you'll ever meet in your life. And there was the blizzard of this century. This is indeed gonna be the storm of the century. And I'm not joking, the school shut down. And it's the first time the school had shut down in a hundred years. In a hundred years. Like that's how big this thing was. So we're living in the dorms and the dorms there are on the lakefront. And never been in a snowstorm blizzard before, right? I don't know what to do. So I think I saw on an episode of Safe by the Bell one time that they were dealing with an earthquake or a tornado and they went under like a door frame. I never dealt with any sort of extreme weather conditions except for a hoboob here in Phoenix when you can still walk around and be just fine, right? And so I like my roommate at the time. So the snowstorm is going on and she's like, oh, let's go out on the lakefront. Let's go, let's go check out the storm. Let's go check it out. I'm like, what are you talking about? I crawled under my bed because I was like, aren't you supposed to like stay under security things? She goes, no, what are you doing? So she goes out this little tiny like five foot one hundred pound dripping wet girl goes out on the lakefront during the snowstorm. And I'm like, well, I said my goodbyes. I didn't know she was coming back. So she ends up obviously she comes back and looks like a snowman. She's like, yo, who's awesome? And so next day, so school is shut down for the next day. And coolest thing is, since we're out on the lakefront and that lake is, it's like an ocean out there, right? Uh-huh. And. They've let me try out this new truck. It's actually a load. I'm not good when it comes to the weather. Like when it gets past under 60 degrees here, I'm like full like sweater, triple layers. Not, not good for all of us. Yeah, it's, it's my, my sister moved up to Chicago. So when I started driving over the road, I appreciate it. I'd go visitor and chance I got to get into there. Chicago is awesome. It's a whole, so I'm going to, well, finish the story out. So the next day, the school completely shut down. So they had a massive snowball fight. And what's cool is, since we lived right on Lake, on Lake Shore, we, it was so cold that the waves had frozen in like mid wave, mid wave, and then had snowed on top of it. So we walked out on the lake and stood on the waves and took like some pictures in high. Yeah. So, I mean, never deal to get that again or anything, but it's cool. And then I ran back inside. So my blood's way too thin to deal with that. So I played softball in college and obviously going through it, I see pretty good friends with everybody that graduate before me. And I always saw that it was hit or miss. Like when you graduate and you're done playing division one softball, I mean, normally you don't go professional. A couple of girls do, but you know, for me, I wanted to definitely get into the, get working and stuff like that. So it was either one or two things. I saw girls who just, we lifted so hard and so much for four plus years that it's including, and not including high school, that your body just worn out. So some girls just hang up the cleats and just don't touch any exercise again. And, you know, your body kind of, everything starts catching up, you know, you wearing like you were telling me earlier about how he popped your arm out when you were throwing that ball, right? And you're seeing your year and that stuff creeps back to you pretty quick. If you stop being so active. And so I almost didn't want to accept it. So I saw two things. I saw girls who either like hung it up and didn't really keep exercising or girls who started diving into some other stuff and found some passions with other things. And so my aunt, who I'm really, really privileged, she just actually retired from the Air Force after she did, she was in the Marines for eight years. And then she did Air Force for 25 years. So she got deployed three years. Yeah, so she just retired and she's always been super big on fitness and this and that. And so I naturally had a little bit of endurance, especially because I was a pitcher so we had to run quite a bit. And she told me, she goes, hey Jenny, why don't you sign up for this half marathon with me? You know, just get into it. It's a good, you know, it's a nice little stress relief. And so I went and did my first half marathon. I almost killed over Ernie. It was horrible. And so I ran that here up in Phoenix, up in Rio Vista Park and did that and almost died, but it's kind of like running. They described it as childbirth. Like it's similar. Like you get this runner's high and then you finish and you almost forget about how much pain you were just in. You're like, oh, it was awesome. It was so worth it. I got a free banana, you know? And so. Then you realize your legs don't want to move. Yeah, you realize that you're like, oh, and then you can't walk for a couple of days and so I kind of got a little bit more into that. And then my aunt, so she was turning 55 and this was when she, so she was retiring from the Air Force. It was her first year and she was going to retire and she kept getting stress factories in her feet. She goes, oh, I'm doing my final test out. And then I could break my foot all I want. I want to run the Marine Corps Marathon. Oh. So over in Washington, D.C. And so I got to travel a lot for softball, but there's a couple of like pretty significant places in the United States that I've never gotten to go to and D.C. was one of them. And so she asked and she goes, oh, would you train for one and run it with me? And I, you know, it's everybody says it's one of the most supportive races you could ever go to. You know, it's in D.C. You get to run through the national mall and you know, you get to experience, you know, true D.C. and the amount of support and everybody. And so I go and I run this thing and it was amazing. It was, first off, it's beautiful there. Like you were talking about West Virginia and then it's beautiful out there. It's just absolutely stunning. And we got to go, you know, do everything and made a little trip out of it. And so my husband and I decided that, you know, I ended up getting involved in little groups and stuff like that. And just kind of got hooked. You get a good little group of friends and it's pretty easy to balance it. You wake up, I wake up at three in the morning normally go and run like 10 miles before work and then just head into work. And so I ended up, kept, you know, the competitive side kind of starts to come out and saw that I could get pretty quick. And so I qualified two weeks before my wedding for the Boston Marathon. I qualified. My husband was a little nervous. He goes, what if you hurt yourself and you can't really walk down the aisle? And I was like, oh, then I, somebody go push me, I'll be okay. And so I ended up, I got to do the Boston Marathon this last April. And so first time I've been to Boston, never got to go to Boston. And that was stunning out there too. Got to see all that history, did the Freedom Trail. And it was the worst weather conditions in Boston Marathon history. It was 30 something degrees, 40 mile an hour headwind and nonstop torrential downpour or rain. It was an experience. And so, but it's all right. I did it. And then I got to, I actually did a pretty good time. And now I qualified. I'm going to run New York this fall. I guess I'm going to go to New York too. Nice. Yep. Does anyone ever say Ron, Jenny, Ron? Oh, all the time. I get the, Ron, Jenny. I get it all the time. Yeah. My sister-in-law, her name is Jenny. And a bunch of my cousins, they were like, Jenny. Yep. It's always funny. I always can tell when somebody, that's like when I can tell somebody starting to get more comfortable with me as like a friend is they throw out that. I'm like, okay, this is, I can kind of gauge the level of friendship we are. They're starting to roll that out. And I'm like, okay. Why don't you tell me, Jenny? Yeah. So Ernie, what are you, what are you kind of into? What are your hobbies? More or less, whatever my girls are doing on the first part of them. You said you have four kids. I have four kids. You said your oldest is your boy in the Air Force, right? Yeah. How long has he been in? He's been in for three years now. Three years. Is he going to stay in? Yeah. Yeah. He's, funny thing about that one is the story, the story behind it is that when he was five years old, his godfather, he was in the Air Force, retired from it, 22 years. So he brought him a bomber jacket. Oh, okay. So, Little Winnokid over. He put it on and he's like, he tells his Nino, he's like, Nino, I'm going to join the Air Force just like you. And so little kid, alright, yeah. So he's getting ready to graduate from Oak from eighth grade, going into high school. And he's like, well, I need to start looking for a high school. I'm like, That has ROTC? Yeah. That has the Air Force, ROTC. Oh, okay. So we found two of them in our area. So one of them was a little further out and the other one was at Peoria High School. It's your choice. So he chose Peoria. And so he, ROTC, all four years. He just loved it. And loved it. That's awesome. So as he graduated, he took a couple of months, then enlisted and off he went to boot camp and earned himself. So then, made it a point, the whole family goes down to, to watch his V&T ceremony and stuff like that. Was he out here in Luke for a while or? Nah, he's gone straight to Charleston. Oh, he did? Wow. So then me and my middle daughter, she was 10 at the time, I believe. And that was nasty. So then, you know, we're walking in and she's like, Hey brother, can I talk to you? And I'm right behind them both. And I'm like, all right. So he slows down and he's like, what's wrong? What's up? She looks at him straight in the eyes and she tells him how I'm proud of you. Oh my gosh. Next words out of her mouth were like the shocker. She's like, I'm going to join the Air Force just like you. Yeah, that hurt. That got me. So then, you know, later on we started talking about it and we're like, okay, so what do you want to do? You know, do you want to go in the Air Force just like a brother right straight to basic? You want to go to school, then join the Air Force, become an officer. And she's like, well, that means I have to go to college, right? I'm like, yeah. But you know, we found out NAU has Air Force ROTC as well. I don't know. So, you know, you can go to NAU, stay in Arizona still and it's only an hour and a half to our drive. Yeah. So then she's like, except what the kicker is, you go to college, you become an officer, your brother has to salute you. She looks at you. That would be, that would suit her. Yeah, her face is like lit up, like really? Okay. I'm going to college. Ha ha ha. But yeah, it was, it was, it was cool. So she had NAU right now? What's that? She had NAU right now. No, she's in eighth grade right now. So, next step is, you know, she's going to go to Peoria. Oh, she's going to go to Peoria too? Yeah. It's cool that some of your kids are already feeling they're calling, you know? Some people almost never get that. So, four kids and then you've been driving for at least 12 years, all since you're 14. So, how was the, have you been able to, the four kids and then a marriage and how have you balanced it all? Ivan, having a pretty good career? At first, when I started over the road, I had two kids who were going on our third one and phone calls every night, you know, just keeping communication with them. Yeah, it's not like it is now either with FaceTime and all that stuff. So your wife, yeah, so wife kept the anchor down at home. Yeah. Was that, because that was your first time going, you said over the road, right? Uh huh. How was your wife with that when you kind of told her that this is what you were going to do? She was like, well, if it's going to better our lives, then that's fine. You've been delivered to. How many times did you say you delivered to them? Well, just this past week, about six times. Just six this last week, I'll say six times, 52 times. Yeah. 30 years? Sometimes it's hitter, man. Sometimes they have loads coming here, sometimes. We could actually pick up empties from here. Can you load and reload from here? The majority of time it's more or less either a delivery or a pickup, but recently we just started loading and reloading because they have quite a few empties. I got this, this one load here. Hey, do you think it's possible to drop in and run and pick up the next one? Yeah. Would you have it done in two hours? Okay, we'll do it. All right, thank you. Bye. Contact getting into the trailer. He is a professional, I tell you. Run, Jeanette, run! To be the most affordable pair of gloves I've ever seen in the history of trucks. That's when he was like, oh, I forgot mine. I suppose this is what we get for making him drive a truck that don't have all his own equipment in it. Nope. Like usually I have full cutters. Sorry about that, Ernie. So what's it like, Jenny, like being out of the pill, like after all these years of talking to people, now you're out here getting to see it first hand. I was saying earlier, it's kind of like some spots are just tough because you feel like a lot of guys have to go quick, quick, quick to get the miles, but then they sit for a while. So I get why there's some urgency at some certain spots, because right now it's like, oh, we finally got a thing open so we can back up, we can get it going, and now it's in the rush. Whereas before, it was just like, the clients are like, quit this loan, quit this loan. I guess knowing it, that you have to know when, like when you're out on the road, you know, having the correct information where you're going and who to contact, and obviously Ernie was talking about just the relationship that he has with some of the shippers is like big time. I mean, that's a huge time, they reform half the time. He just knows them, he has a good relationship with them and lets them be able to be a little bit more efficient when he's out on the road. He now officially dropped the trailer. So what brought you to Nite? So when I was finishing up school, obviously my husband wanted to stay in LA and then I wanted to come back to Phoenix. I was just finishing up and so we both kind of applied and I kind of wanted to get into like business, like HR, safety type stuff, and you know, so I was looking at places in Phoenix and obviously growing up in Phoenix, like you said, hometown, you always hear about Nite. So not too far away, I grew up a couple miles away from corporate, so applied and just did an interview and got the job and moved back. So I got the job first, so we moved back to Phoenix, but we always joke because I had to do a Skype interview and it was like one of the typical ones like I had, I was sitting there with my face and I had like a nice shirt on and then wearing something like my softball shorts. So we always joke my husband's like, what are you gonna do if they ask you to like, look at this photo and I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna casually roll out of the shot and then be back in. But yep, I loved it. I mean, it's Nite's, I mean, I've been just in recruiting for four years and I've recruited for almost every single service center that we have and I've done, I did experience as a recruiter and then I was able to take over the squire team as the director of them last year. And that was a whole different ball game because talking about the candidates, we really have done a lot with our school recently and then we've done a lot within the training program and then now I've been able to come back over and work with the experienced again for the last couple of months as head weighing the director over that over the experience recruiting. So it's every day is different. It's just trucking, it's, I love it. I'm more of a gritty personality and it's a lot of fun. Every single day you learn something completely different. Seven years with Nite, what's mean to you, is there ever any times you ever thought about leaving or anything about doing something else? To be honest, no. No. But me, it's the flexibility. If I need a day off to do something for the family, do something, I just let them know, hey, I need the time off. They're like, okay, that's fine. Yeah, they're not like over here tracking your hours. Yeah. But for being local, I, basically the whole reason why I got started into local, about four years ago, my actual father-in-law, he got sick, he ended up having myeloma cancer, multiple myeloma and so he was going for radiations like every Friday. So I went into the office and I'm like, look, I'm pretty much the only male in the family. So nobody can pick him up if he falls. I like it. So I need to take him to his radiation treatment, something like that. And they're like, all right, that's fine. We'll get you Monday through Thursday, running back and forth on that Friday evening, come in and take the day off and go take your father-in-law. I'm like, that's cool. I appreciate that. Well, just like that, like no more questions. And then about three, four weeks into it, they are like, you know what? Yeah, how would you like a local spot? I was like, I would love that. So then I was home every night. 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