 Hi on my is cutie a threat to Katie go check it out video I actually made a very snarky and quick comment about for next thing that I usually try to avoid for next So let me actually explain why and it comes from two reasons One is actually from his fault another reason is not due to for next But it still leads me to avoiding it and I think it could be there could be some effort from for next to fix it First one very simple in the past they did some mistakes when actually reporting some of the kitty news and Some of those mistakes were Significant I think as an example one time when the K-Win maintainers step step down. They also reported that another developer stepped down And he hadn't and he was actually pretty annoyed to Be cited in this article So that was a pretty big mistake because it was a very important moment for Katie the K-Win maintainer was stepping down and making such a mistake it was Also, usually they take blog posts from Katie developers and almost copy paste them changing few words or summarizing them and then posting an article and then that article immediately gets posted to Katie social networks social networks such as Reddit So it feels a bit like they're trying to make the news as soon as possible even out of the Katie on blogs Katie developers on blogs. So that's not very nice These aren't super important and I guess we could leave without them But they also have the second reason which is they do have a comment section and in theory it should be moderated I think it really isn't and it's full of insults and completely wrong stuff about Katie and every time I go to a phronix article and I see the comments I Die a bit inside when he talks about Katie. I actually want to make you a few examples because This is just me talking. So I collected some of the comments from phronix And then as an example This one was after the release of Plasma 5.25 and it just says the new effect sucks I won't tell behavior and I can understand that the new effect had some bugs when it was first released But there was a reason first of all, but okay, I can understand users being annoyed, but that's just not how we frame it Okay There's also after releasing a new Katie Plasma and I still cannot use OBS or screen capture on Wayland NVIDIA That's false. By the way, I'm using OBS and I'm screen recording So but that wasn't even the point of the article and then there is stuff like why does it seem like Katie Is always following Microsoft design trends. We aren't like even Everything we do we did that way before Microsoft. We had a bottom bar light theme with a menu and rounded corners Microsoft was Blackbar by default with square currents very different Is it just because we have a bottom bar? Is that the panel the only thing in common at this point? I don't know. We're clearly not following Microsoft design trends. I don't know about that then there's also this post which Complaints about the fact that every time a new Katie Plasma release is released it says that includes better Wayland support and Asks, is it gonna happen for the next version of Katie Plasma too? I hope so. I mean What is the point of that? Of course at every release of Katie Plasma we try to make Wayland as better as an experience compared to the previous version We try to improve it every time and it's slowly getting there even one year ago I couldn't use Wayland on my main computer. I just couldn't now I'm doing it without any issue whatsoever So it is improving a lot and I don't see why you would complain about the fact that it's improving throughout many many versions Did you expect that it would only took like one version? I don't know Then there is off-brand GNOME from the discontent shop. This is actually for the effect that we have which is this one. Let me actually show it to you this one and Well People thought it was copied by GNOME and it isn't it was I already talked about this it wasn't So off-brand GNOME really hurts inside. Of course, it doesn't hurt but a bit Why imitate GNOME UI disasters and we are not imitating GNOME in the first place But also it was very much not a UI disaster I think that the feedback that we got that Effect like this was needed this one. Sorry This one was very strong and people really really liked it in general. So I don't see what's the point here Then there's insults without any arguments. I cannot even reply to that This effect is at least I hope this doesn't take five seconds to open And I can guarantee you that all effects that caddy had back then were like super performant There were all C++ stuff you could argue that the new effect is like is the lightest is lower because it's part QML and that's for a reason it makes it so much easier to actually work with and it's not particularly Slow either but the one back then were even faster. So what what is he referring to it? understand and then the just the first thing I would turn off immediately and I See a lot of these comments even on reddit whenever a new version arises and I always ask myself Why did it? Why did you want to let the world know this like? Why would he assume that somebody would be interested in his personal preference about caddy plasma? It's fair to turn off k-win effects, but a New version has just released and that's your only comment and yes, this is a video where I'm just snarky and Angry that that's the whole video. I'm just keep it away if you Then there is this one. It's almost over though. This is actually what I was referring to it is The news also comes just this after a can also stepped down as a caddy maintainer And this is the count of egg that says no. I didn't what's up with that? Luckily, they did quickly fix it they better do that and this is from their posts from the K-win maintainer stepping down and it's all like oh the VDG is completely destroying everything and They lose due to removing functionality and making caddy gnome 4.0 What? That's such a trip. I failed to see what a window manager has to do with design Okay, one could honestly not see the link but a window manager has a lot to do with the design of the Operating system like the desktop that uses it as an example If you want rounded corners, you need to deal with the window manager You cannot do it by the application themselves for in a consistent way If you want to cut off the corners of the windows You need to do it via the window manager or another example Which is actually probably one of the reasons why the maintainer step down is that there was a lot of discussion on whether windows had to have board had to add borders drawn by the Window manager around them or not back then they had them now they haven't and luckily they were removed because this actually allowed design to do a lot much more with the space, but It has to do a lot with design also this one is annoyed that We talk about white privilege in KDE just the fact that white privilege was mentioned that that's enough and Then there is this one who claims that we remove it's the same guy from before we removed features from KDE and When actually asked okay, but what did we remove exactly? Hey, I'm not kidding literally said I leave the exercise to the reader He didn't even answer the question What else this is the last one and the name none But it's just a selection to make you understand why I don't go through for next Tour we're playing through the other guy. He just is so right to stop these 2d sweeping shit with ages of UI research Using this bold random words It's just so absurd Stuff like this. Okay. So this is a selection of comments and now you understand why whenever I go to for next I At least don't check out the comments at the very least and luckily recently the for next articles themselves in general has been Well done. Even there was the Thing the fake new I don't know that Katie was at the adding advertisement Which was false false and for next did report on that, but it did in a Correct way. So that was very nice. So lately it's better, but nonetheless if you see a kitty lover per angry with four nicks That's not very unusual, let's say that