 I didn't wrestle at all with sending him back out for the eighth so hypothetically He gets through that eighth even though his pitch counts even more elevated you would give him the chance It just depends like I mean if yeah, if he's at a hundred and five hundred eight hundred ten Yeah, probably, you know if if we're getting into you know What I would have considered a danger zone then maybe maybe not but no he was going Right What did you see about how he was able to bear down in the seventh when they had the two on? How did he get through that? Yeah, it was Who do you end up getting to you got Calhoun to end that on the ground ball, right? I? Thought he did a really good job, but you know after he lost a couple guys with with walks He got right back on the attack with a banyas and got himself to o2 and was able to get him And then you know Calhoun got a decent piece of it, but got him to put it on the ground I just thought when you know Following the two walks for him to get right back into the strike zone and and gain some Calhoun leverage with a banyas was big for him air Aaron did you have a pitch count in mind for him like you just following up on Meredith's question I mean in your head when he's he starts the inning the eighth with 94 pitches I think in your head are you thinking okay if he gets this at a hundred and five hundred ten He's going back out there. No, I wasn't looking at it like that I was just looking at it is Now you start to look at it is I was going to let him go as long as he was efficient You know if it starts to get you know where he's laboring and and walking more guys Then we got a you know then we got to make an adjustment obviously, but no I wasn't there wasn't a number I was looking at I was you know hoping he was getting some quicker at quick outs But it wasn't enough specific number. I was looking at Dave But there and like how do you tell with him effort-wise like he doesn't throw hard and he's so creative in the way he pitches like He pretty much stays the same throughout right him. That was the first time he's been into the eighth inning I think as a yeah picture. So do you notice much of a difference in him when he gets that later or not really Sometimes but I thought today he held his stuff. Well, I thought he's in control and He throws hard for him, you know, he's he's still working out there And and as I always tell you his heater put really plays so I Just thought he was Even though I lost a couple of guys there in the seventh again I think the Abania's bat told me that he was still sound and sharp and physically in a good spot Ron in a time where all the focus is on the guys who throw 98 99 and up He's consistently in the low 90s. What enables him to succeed at that? It's a really good fastball. So don't get enamored with the number I mean, there's guys that throw 96 97 that are good hitting that it's not a good fastball We're able to kind of measure those things now a lot better. Whereas when I was playing it was like man This guy's heaters getting on me and it's not a great number. Whereas this guy that's throwing really hard it's kind of good hitting so Nesters is not good hitting and when he can Really establish the inside of the plate with the cutter off of that fastball and now go away with his heat or some or Challenge you up in the strike zone and then have the ability to slow you down with you know with the breaking ball. So He just does a lot of things he works both sides of the plate But I think with every guy that's not necessarily overpowering He he I think you got to establish a piece of the inside part of the plate and he's he's great at doing that Those things you can now measure. What are they? Well, I mean you're measuring spin on the ball life on the ball, you know how it You know how it acts as opposed to what it perceives to the hitter and things like that and you see it as a result You know, he gets a lot of swing and miss Brian Karen if you go back to spring training, I don't think Nestor was necessarily guaranteed a spot in the rotation When did you realize he could be this good? He was guaranteed a spot in my rotation. Oh, yeah Yeah, I went into the season You know, I'm not surprised at all by this now if we go back 14 months Maybe I'm surprised that he's you know this dominant and this kind of staple in our rotation But going into this going to spring training not at all So what changed that in your mind? When did you kind of click there and say I think in parts of last year when he went into the rotation and he was He was this guy last year in our rotation So I'm not surprised that he's continued it Greg and then onesie Aaron how much did it add to the tension or pressure? I guess just that it was a zero zero game and it added to it You know, I was hanging on over there for dear life. It definitely Added a layer of drama to it for sure and and obviously makes every pitch even that much more meaningful and and Intense which which is all makes it all the more impressive