 Our guy Ken Rosenthal joining us and you know it's so weird usually I'm talking to you through a TV and you're right here I know it's great. I love it. I could see you in the flesh So let's start out with some juicy of reporting that you did this morning finding out the no trade list for Madison Bumgarner and so the chess match begins I guess, huh? Right now let me explain this Kevin because it is kind of confusing the teams He chose are all contenders there are eight teams are all really good teams and people might say well Why would he do that? It's pretty simple Leverage when you have a no trade list what you want is if your team agrees to a trade say the Giants and Cardinals agree Well Madison Bumgarner has to approve. What does it take for him to approve? Sometimes it takes some form of compensation So for Bumgarner a very shrewd and strategic list that he has there and keep in mind Getting traded for him as a potential free agent is an advantage because what would happen? He no longer would be eligible for a qualifying offer No longer would be tied to draft pick compensation and it would be an unrestricted free agent And we've seen with Keichel and Kimbrel that draft pick can be a drag. Yeah, it is speaking of Keichel and Kimbrel I mean I still can't believe here. We are we're you know We're mid-may and those guys still aren't signed when are they going to get signed? The consensus in baseball right now is that it will be after the draft because after the draft which is in early June Then there is no more draft pick compensation. No more issues along those lines. You just pay the money However, there is incentive and you look at these teams right here There are reasons the teams at the bottom of the list should be really seriously thinking about doing it right now The Phillies you're gonna be worried about the 91st pick when your team's stupid money I don't think so the Brewers the 133rd pick because they've already signed Yasmani Grandal and lost the pick They in theory should be incentivized to do this then you see the figures on the right those are Draft pool Considerations not international pool what it is it enables you in your draft pool to have as much money as possible And then you divide it up between your picks So when you lose that money it limits your flexibility That's a problem, but at the same time if you're trying to win Maybe it shouldn't be a problem and let's say you're the Phillies you get Kimbrel You keep him away from the Braves you get him for an extra month instead of waiting until after the draft and waiting for him to build up and yet I don't know that we're gonna see anyone act for a random hundred and thirty three How do you know what that picks gonna be you're getting an all-star clue? I don't know I I'm with you I would go out and make the move so teams making moves or not in this case How about managers making moves who's on the hot seat in this early part of the season? Do you think we've talked about this Kevin two guys in both in the NL East? It's Mickey Calloway, and it's Dave Martinez now Calloway according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post confirmed by many others met yesterday with the GM Brodie Van Waggonen and One of the ownership representatives Jeff Wilp on they didn't threaten his job But the fact that they had a meeting and said let's go we don't want another collapse early in the season again That is not a great sign now the Mets could win last night against the Marlins They've got an easier schedule coming up that should help the more dire situation Perhaps is Dave Martinez with the Nationals. They are in Los Angeles right now They've got two more games in LA then they go home with an off-day Monday if things don't turn around That might be the kind of day where you would make a change. They've already fired the pitching coach They don't want to fire their manager. No team wants to it's an admission of failure But at the same time they may determine at some point we need to change the energy need to get going They have some internal candidates. I don't expect it would be Girardi or show Walter because of the money involved They'd be paying two managers. They don't like to pay one. So it would be a problem for them Yikes, we already talked about the Indians and how they didn't do anything in the offseason to really up their team to improve their team Injuries now. So how do they handle the trade deadline? Well, it's going to be interesting Kevin because if they are really out of it And it's gonna take a lot for them to be out of it. You have Trevor Bower You've talked about him before but this team is quite top-heavy and that's the problem right here Their best players are the guys you can see right here These guys contributed to their overall team last year's numbers to see the percentage of Overall war that they did now war is not an all-encompassing number But this shows you just how much they rely on all of these guys and really only Carrasco and Baller have been productive this year So that's where they are right now and if they do fall out of it I would expect them to be creative. What if they don't fall out of it? What if they're they're in it, but they're a question. I mean, I they have not done much, right? You would think they would have some flexibility, but they have not acted as if they have any flexibility So I'm not sure they're gonna be that aggressive. No, great stuff is always Ken Rosenthal see in just a moment