 The Solbasium Optics 180, a red light therapy panel from a relatively new company. It has some pretty impressive power outputs, but some other things aren't quite as impressive. Stay tuned as I do a deep review of this new red light therapy panel. Let's get into it. Hey guys, it's Alex here from alexfigures.com and today I have the Optics 180 by a company called Solbasium. Anyway, this is a relatively new company. They were founded in 2018, so I've only been on the market for a couple years now and the idea was they wanted to bring the highest quality red light therapy panels and other gizmos and gadgets to the health space. So today I want to focus on their red light therapy panels. Now they sell a couple red light therapy panels, I think it's like five in their range and this is the middle of the road in terms of sizes. So 180 is 180 LEDs, they do a smaller one 20 and another smaller one and then they do large ones as well. But this comes in around that thousand dollar mark and hence I class it as a body panel as it has under 300 LEDs. So a bit more about the company, they strive on offering great support. They have three year warranty and a three day trial period which is which is good. They are based in Australia but they sell worldwide and they have free worldwide shipping. So that is appealing for you if you're watching this in the States or the UK or New Zealand for instance. So anyway like I said I've been using this for a few weeks now and yeah I've got lots of thoughts and feedback and I've been testing it with all my meters and other gizmos and gadgets and I've got tons of data to share with you. So let's get into it. Alright so first things first how much does this cost? Well it scrapes in just under a thousand dollars which I think is good. For a body panel I think they should be under a thousand dollar mark ideally. Well they're about around a thousand dollars is a good price if you're spending if you're getting a good quality body panel. The exact price is $995 US dollars. Now they have offered you guys a discount and that discount code is alexalex and it will save you five percent and that applies to every panel in the product range I believe. So that will bring the price down to $945 which is a good price. As I mentioned before they offer free worldwide shipping for any purchase over a hundred dollars so of course that applies for this panel. So that is that is really good because like I said if you're in New Zealand or the UK or Canada you know a lot of these companies you have to pay extra you know sometimes up to a hundred dollars a hundred and twenty dollars for shipping so that is nice to know. However as we will find out later on the price is good around a thousand dollar mark. From a value point of view there are a bit of panels but we'll talk about that later on in the piece. What about the panel itself? Well the panel is again what I call a body panel. It is 38 inches tall and 8.7 inches wide. We've got the white colour and it's the only colour they offer. The LEDs are actually in three clusters. You may not be able to see it from this angle but there's three clusters with a slight separation in between them there which personally I don't like because that is going to impact the treatment area. Pretty standard design. Nothing revolutionary or too unique here. When we spin it around we see that there's quite a few fans on the back. One, two, three, four, five, six and you've got all the componentry for a modular setup so you can basically chain in more panels and so that's all good and obviously you have the connection ports at the top for that modular support. As you can see I've got some metal wires screwed onto the top which I can use it to hang from a hook or a pulley system. On the side we have pretty standard ear vents cut in here. There's no real branding as such. There's no itched logos or anything like that. All you have is the little company name on the top of the control panel. Now speaking of the control panel we'll have a bit of a look at this later but it is just your standard rather old school panel. But yeah we'll talk about that a bit later on. Got some rubber feet on the back here. How it plugs is in the middle which is better than being at the top though personally I'd rather down the bottom. Okay so what do you get in the box? Well of course you get the panel and the included accessories are your rather standard affair with one exception. So we get your standard goggles, your standard little door hook, pulley system, clips and your top screws for the modular expansion cable with originally short cable length it is only one and a half meters which is about five foot. It does come with a local plug though so that is good but yeah it is on the shorter side of cables. But what's interesting though is there's no spare cable for connecting multiple devices. So typically with these panels that offer modular support you'll see your powerpoint cable and then you'll see another one to connect this to the second panel for instance. You also get the manual which we'll look at soon but the other thing you get is this little remote which is pretty neat. I've seen a remote in one or two panels now the light path LED had a remote and it was very useful. This remote is interesting because the buttons on it don't necessarily make sense when you first look at it like the 10, the 30, M the power. I'm assuming M is mode plus and minus must be for the timer 10 and 30, 900% sure what that is. It would have been good to use this because I'm not a big fan of the control panel as we'll cover later on in the piece so it is a bit of a bummer but hey it does come with the remote so it's good to know. As for the manual it's a pretty standard affair. Actually no I'd say it's sub-standard. I mean it's good quality, it's nice and print and all that sort of jazz but the first few pages are all about the panels that are in available in the product range. I'm surprised they don't have a price on it and then you've got your setup which is pretty standard and then treatment recommendations which is very very basic and then safety. So you know if you're new to red light therapy or new to red light therapy panels this is kind of lacking. I'm sure it wouldn't have hurt to put a few more pages of info in there. So that's everything that's included in the purchase price. What other optional accessories or add-ons can you get? Well of course you can get more panels and you know change them all together to make a bigger stand. Otherwise you can get two stands for these panels so they do what they call a forward stand and an angular stand. Now there's not much info on the website, it was a little bit disappointing to be honest. Both of these stands cost $400 and the forward stand is for your vertical setup so you can stack them like so. The angular stand is for the overhead horizontal setup. Yeah both of them $400 but they don't say, it doesn't sound on the website how many panels each can hold you know like can you put four on there or is it just for one? I'm not too sure. So you'd have to send them an email so that's a bit of a bummer. As for warranty and support well this panel comes with a three-year warranty. The website does say that it's industry leading but that is not true as we know the red light rising advantage series has a five-year warranty which is quite amazing but three years is good. A few years ago three years was market leading. You have a 30-day trial period however there is a restocking fee of up to 20% depending on the condition so keep that in mind. I believe this was seen out from Australia but they've got, I know on the back of the manual here it says they've got an office in America so I'm not too sure if they got a distribution center there or not. So if you're buying one of these you know the shipping's free but if you've got to return it just keep that in mind or you may want to check it out in case you're going to send it all the way to Australia because that's going to cost you a bomb if you're in the States. They also do pride themselves on their support and based on my experiences dealing with this company yeah they are they are very active on the emails and I know they've got a toll-free phone number as well so you can call them so that is all good. Alright now for the fun part we test the power and performance of this panel. So if this is the first time watching one of my red light therapy reviews I do recommend checking out my red light therapy review procedure video and that's where I explain everything I'm testing, how I test it, the devices I use. I used to incorporate all that information into each review but it just means the reviews were going for like an hour long and people would see it over and over so be sure to check that out if you're if you want to know how I do everything otherwise what I'm going to do is I'm going to proceed to reveal all the numbers that I have tested and you know get my thoughts on it and of course if you want to see how these numbers stack up compared to other panels be sure to subscribe because I will be including this panel in my 2021 comparison series which will be up very soon and also be sure to head over to the elixvergus.com red light therapy buyers guide because in that article I linked to a spreadsheet and I actually I'll put a direct link to this below as well and in that spreadsheet it's got all the data from all the panels I've tested over the year so you'll be able to see how this panel compares to via max or compares to a juve you know and see everything that I all the numbers that I've tested go into that document so okay so before we test the actual unit let's run down what specs are in this panel so we have 180 leds now these leds are five watt leds and dual chip so being five what you'd expect the power numbers to be pretty good but remember five watt is not necessarily does not necessarily mean it's more power in fact I think some of the highest test the highest irradiance numbers of tests that have come from three watt leds so that is always interesting and you know important to remember when you're shopping for a panel not to get caught up in some of these you know big marketing terms they're meant to be anti flicker leds so they'll be interesting when we test flicker soon and they are 30 um 30 degree beam angle leds so it's quite a narrow beam angle so it'll be interesting to see how the panel performs in the hotspot test it is also a multi-wave panel it emits five wavelengths so we've got two wavelengths in the red light range so we've got 630 and 660 and then we've got three in the near infrared 18 830 and 850 but there's a bit of a downside there are the ratios between these different wavelengths aren't equal and this is similar to say the biomex the platinum led range so in this particular panel actually the numbers are quite similar to what biomex does in this particular panel 40 percent of the leds are 660 nanometers 40 percent of the leds are 850 nanometers and then the remaining 20 percent are made up of your 630 18 and 830 so you're only getting six or seven percent of the leds and all of this using those let's call it alternative wavelengths which is a bit of a bummer because you know there is some good research of course there's tons of good research on 660 and 850 but there's also some promising research on those alternative wavelengths so yeah it is I mean it's it's tricky because like 660 and 850 are the dominant wavelengths right which is why most companies use them however they're also cheaper to produce which is another reason why you typically see more of those leds than than the alternative ones if you know it's only you know a few percent of leds are in the 830 or 18 and you want the benefits of that wavelength and that's part of the reason you you purchase a panel such as this then you got to keep that in mind that you're not getting a full body treatment like it might only be this panel and this panel and this panel in the top whole section right so you're not getting the full targeted sort of treatment area whereas you whereas if it was 660 and 850 like an even or if it was 25 percent going to four different wavelengths you would get a nice treatment area so just don't keep in mind all right so I've got my spectrometer here what I'm going to do is I'm going to test the wavelength for both neofrid and red light and we're going to see what the peak wavelengths are and compare it to the listed wavelengths on the box let's get into it okay that's all done so unfortunately the peak readings I was given on here don't line up a hundred percent with the peak figures that are listed in the manual on the box so for instance there's 70 percent of the leds are at 630 the peak I had for those 630 leds was actually closer to 640 so that's quite a difference there there was a bit of light coming through at 630 but 640 was it was much more closer to 640 than 630 there's 660 peak I was testing at 665 so again this little bit off remember there is always a bit of a range of you know like these aren't lasers they are led so you do get a 510 nanometer range but it would be nice you know if a company says hey it's got 660 nanometers in it or 630 and you find out that actually the peaks more over here but there's a little bit of that 630 you know it's in a way it's a bit misleading and then it makes you wonder well what other things are they have they got wrong you know it may not necessarily be deliberate misleading it may just be you know something went wrong in the company and the manufacturing process for instance or it was a bad batch or they didn't know they just tested a bad panel and you know that's what the frame was so I know this happened with the mito mito red light mito pro and I told them about it and they you know they were quite concerned that it happened they did some research and realized that they did have a batch that was was vaulting that's what I had and now they've tightened up their control policies you know they're testing the panels a lot more frequently and they'll fix the problem so that's good to see so yeah we have a bit of discrepancy at the 630 and 660 there are about 510 nanometers off in the near read range that it wasn't as much of an issue that 810 came out to be a peak at 805 so a slight difference there but 830 and 850 were all good so that's good to know all right now it's time to do the peak power readings so again I cover all this in that other video so you can watch this I'm just going to go straight into the testing and then come back with the numbers okay that was a wrap so um yeah the numbers are pretty good remember these are 5 watt LEDs uh so you would expect the numbers the power point the power output to be a little bit higher um but not not necessarily extremely high based on testing other panels but the numbers are good uh the combined peak power in the middle it was from there for it and red light was 74.1 milliwatts over 70 square so that's that's it's you know it's up there it's it's a good number remember check out the um my data sheet read like therapy data sheet I'll put a link to below and you can compare how this you can see how this number compares to other panels so for instance back in 2019 uh you know that sort of peak power would have been may have been the top powered panel or it was definitely would have definitely been up there fast forward to 2021 with the new generation panels it's definitely up there but it's not the highest I've had peak powers in the 80s and 90s I don't think anyone's broke the 100 milliwatts number yet so you know it's it's good but it's not the best um peak power for the read was 44 milliwatts and peak power in the near for it was 42 and a half so the good thing there is both those numbers are quite similar right typically we see near for it being a lot higher than red light usually sometimes it's the other way around but it is nice to know that they're both quite balanced there which is good now the average power over nine spots was 56.7 remember I'm testing on the edge and the center there um it's just a way I do my calculations it's not super scientific or anything like that but it is a good metric to compare and then the total out power output which is a number that is nice to compare across panels that came out to be 82.7 watts which is which is a good number especially considering that it's only 180 leds you know like if we if we were up at the 250 or even 300 led count then um that power would probably be a little bit higher so 82 for for for 180 watts is is respectable and these numbers again I'll crunch these numbers further in the value section coming up but again you can always go off to that and check out that spreadsheet and see how these numbers compare the wattage draw figures were 685 watts for both red and near infrared and the split was 300 watts for red and just under 400 watts for near infrared okay so I've got the panel six inches from the wall uh blank wall here and you're looking roughly at the middle of the panel so I'm going to turn this on now I'm going to see how this looks you're only seeing um the red light of course the near infrared light is invisible now this is what I call the polka dot effect and um I have to be honest that's probably the worst I've seen out of any panel um the biomex have always been known to have quite a bad polka dot effect um but unfortunately I think this is this is even worse now what's interesting here though this is actually a good case study I guess so this panel has 30 degree has a 30 degree beam angle so I I did expect to see some polka dot effect not this strong but some effect because that means the light isn't isn't spreading out as much as it would in say a 60 or 90 um degree beam angle led I I think from from my experience doing these tests I think 60 is probably where you want to be I think that's what the moderate series use um check out that document my spreadsheet because I've got all the data in there so 30 yeah you're more likely to see this but that's not the only concern um see the difference between that color I hope you can see this because it's quite quite clear to my eye and even on the screen I'm looking at here on the camera but sometimes when I watch this on the computer later you can't really notice it but that spot there and that spot there are very different to these spots right so remember this is a multi-wave panel and we have two different wavelengths in the red light range so we have 630 and 660 and remember 40 percent of well out of the red light range 80 percent is going to 660 and 14 or 15 percent is going to the 630 so you can see firsthand the differences of um well you can see where those 630 nanometer LEDs are can't you like there's one there's one there's one there's one down there so that's what I was saying before like if you bought this because you saw 630 is really good for I don't know arthritis pain or whatever I don't know I'm just making stuff up at the moment and then you buy this and you stand behind it and you've got arthritis in your knee and your knee is here relative to the panel you're not getting any of that 630 hitting the knee see what I mean that's a bummer that's it's a shame uh and the other thing to remember well there's a few things to note as well and here in the middle we've got a big spot where there's no red LEDs like there's a whole section there where you're not even getting red light I mean you're getting some light but the drop off is massive you're going to get a ton of light there and very little there relatively um and so this is just for red lights so remember there's three near infrared lights if we could see that it would be it would be worse you'd take three different types of colors I mean it's it's quite crazy like now I'm curious I want to take this back a bit let's take this back to say 12 inches and again you're probably not going to see this but I can still see boom boom boom boom where the 630s are uh the other thing that I noticed as I pull away is you might not be able to see this let's see what's happening through here guess what that lines up with that lines up with the gap in the in the panel remember I said there's three clusters so this is at 12 inches right and you can see like how spotty it is like that's bad that's it's not great you don't you don't want that you're not getting even treatment which is a shame it's like a really close see see how pronounced that is of course we're only three inches out here but okay so that's a real big blow for the panel to be honest um sure you got some pretty good numbers from a power rating point of view but yeah that was bought just seeing that poking on a feet like that it's it was it's a bit of a bummer anyway moving on now that we've got this power ratings we can do some value calculation so the first one is the price per led now that came out to be $5.25 which is actually on the higher side you know some other competing like some of the rivals to this panel around four dollars I think there may even be some below four dollars per led so you are paying a lot but again it really depends on how much power those leds are putting out and that's where the dollar per total what output figure comes um comes into play eleven dollars and forty cents which is which is okay but there's some that are a lot better I think the best are around eight dollars and again you can check out the um my red light therapy data sheet to compare the numbers uh yeah about eight dollars I think that might have been like platinum or might have been for instance uh and I think the worst to date I've tested is up in the 20 to 25 dollars and I think that was a really rising advantage so you know it's kind of middle well actually it's closer to the front but now let's move on to the image testing for this I have got my elitro smog emf meter right here and I am going to test microwave magnetic and electric so I'm going to get straight into this and come back with the numbers all right so I've got my numbers here uh now I did a reading at both three inches and six inches I just always do six inches but what's happening is all these companies are improving the emf reading so much which is great um that all the six three the six inch readings are coming back perfect uh with the odd exception here and here and there but it was kind of boring so I was like you know let's start testing at three inches as well and I know a lot of people are standing quite close to the panel anyway so hey it's good to know so all right what do we need to know firstly there was no electric reading at three or six inch so that was great that's really good and that's an easy one to mitigate so you'd expect that anyway with a good panel um there was also no microwave reading there's no bluetooth the wi-fi on here so that is fine it would be the same with um the light path panel though because it's got the remote if you push this button you might see a bit of a spike but that's I wouldn't worry about that um next up well the main one we have then is the magnetic reading at six inches we're a zero point one to micro teslas now that's low and it's pretty safe but um there are other panels that are well below that number now so slightly disappointing I had three inches we were zero point three six micro teslas which is in the orange range which is in that concern but not unsafe or not extremely unsafe range again um that's at three inches though so yeah it's not I mean hey like compare this to panels from a couple years ago those numbers would have been quite good but you compare it to some of the really popular big brand panels from today and those numbers you know could be well the numbers from this optics 180 are uh inferior to the uh to some other panels today while I was testing the emf I also did some flicker readings using my spektrometer and this uh I expected to see good readings because it's promoted as an anti-flicker device so I'm like well you wouldn't promote that if it was flicker and I can say yes there's no flicker at all so that's great and again that's something that's changed a lot in the years couple years ago in the 2019 body panel comparison series I tested six body panels I think only one had no flicker now um it's almost the opposite like it's very rare to find a panel with flicker so that is good to know the sound levels were 49.6 decibels which is which is low it's on the quiet side typically we're above 50 and let me just give you a demo of the sound so as you probably noticed there there was nothing too um concerning with that sound there was no high pitch wear or you know a pulsing sort of sound um and you may be thinking really Alex like like you're about the sound but trust me if you're standing by these panels you know 10 20 minutes a day a couple times a week for weeks on end like most people do and and as you should use these panels if there's a sound there that really bothers you trust me it'll it'll really start grading you okay so in regards to setup it's pretty simple you just plug this power cord in like I've done here and then you turn the power that red power switch on at the back um one thing I should mention as well this panel doesn't have built-in grips I forgot to mention that earlier so the power's in what I'm gonna do is turn the power on now and as you see straight away unit starts working and you can see by default both red and the infrared lights are working which I always think is a good thing when they're both working sometimes only one works and if it's only the red and you don't know it's a near infrared because it's invisible you can end up doing a whole session and not having any near infrared treatment um and also by default the timer starts coming down from 10 minutes so I guess earlier it's quite a basic screen just with that LCD um timer in there there's no menu options or anything like that um which you know I guess this is quite an old screen in that regards because you know even back in 2019 we had little on-screen menus like for instance the biomex you could scroll between different options in that whereas the new biomex in 2021 is a full touchscreen display um so it's lacking in that regards not that it really matters but um you know some people like these things but I I don't know personally I think when you turn the power on and it starts working straight away that's I'd rather it didn't do that like sometimes you want to turn the power on and get everything set up but boom straight away it's like glowing you're like wow crazy um so now I've been using this panel a couple times now probably about six sessions and I still get a little bit confused with the controls so let's just run through this firstly you've got your green buttons up here showing which LEDs are running this isn't a button that's your infrared sensor for the remote now you got these buttons down here obviously plus and minus they just add time to the timer so the red the near infrared that changes between red light on the infrared or both t does that I don't I don't know what that does I think that just disables the timer I don't know why it says if if if like why don't just say go blank or zero I don't know maybe there's a meaning to that doesn't say anything in the menu I don't believe um but the weird thing is there's no power on off button right so the very first time I used this I was like oh it's running like you know plug it into it on the power switch at the back and it's like oh how do you turn it off and I'm looking around and pressing buttons and you actually have to press the mode button that red and near infrared and all that does is just alternates between what LEDs are running so right now we've just got the near infrared you press it again for red press it again for both um so it's yeah reasonably simple but at the same time it could be done better um of course like because of this panel just comes on straight away when you turn it on I just ended up using the power switch at the back um but yeah an on off button or start stop button or pause play pause button would have been nice on here another thing that's a bummer is me not having a battery sorry I can't show you this but I'm assuming it's power so this is like the light path LED panel light path LED panel you need to check out my first impressions of that video it's quite hilarious um that was like insane to use and it's still insane to use but the remote made things so much easier um so yeah here you've got a power button so why didn't have that on there I don't know M I'm guessing is mode for your near infrared and red light uh plus or minus plus minus 10 and 30 maybe that 10 seconds and 30 seconds why they have that I'm not too sure it would be better having 10 minutes and five minutes perhaps maybe that's what it is I don't know who knows okay so we're coming up to the end of my review here we have covered all the main things from a power emf value point of view now what I want to do is to share my experiences using this panel and then compare it to some competitors products and also other panels in the uh solvacium light up so my experience is hey yeah I mean there was nothing I mean other than the control issues which we've already touched on there's nothing major to report on nothing super positive or super negative so that is all good I suppose the shorter cable was a bit of a bummer you know I think I I could just reach the plug but it was it was getting to the point where I needed was considering getting the extension cord that's a bit of a blow and I I do know like having those spaces in the middle there of the led clusters especially now seeing that hotspot test you kind of like oh that's a bit of a bummer it means you sort of have to move around a little bit more to make sure all areas are getting treated but otherwise yeah nothing nothing super good or bad to report on in that regard okay so how does the optics 180 compare to other optics panels and also other red light therapy panels in the market so so like I said at the start of this video this optics 180 is the in the middle of the product range for solvacium so they actually do an optics 60 with 60 leds and optics 120 the 180 which is here at 360 and then they go all the way up to their 480 if you want to go smaller and save a few dollars then yeah you're going down to the 120 now I'm assuming the power and internals are all the same here but you're paying a lot more per led so it makes more sense to spend you know two three hundred dollars more and get the 180 because you can get a value right the funny thing is if you go up again if you go from the 180 to the 360 which is of course double the size the crazy thing is the price the value gets worse and to buy for instance the retail price of this is a thousand dollars right the retail price of the 360 is 2400 so how does that work like you're spending you're paying a premium to get a big one like usually it goes the other way around so in fact you're actually better off just getting two of these instead of the optics 360 and then stacking them on top of each other or putting them side by side so I don't know what's going on there that's a little bit odd but I guess from the product range then this is probably from the solvacium product range this is probably the best the pick of the bunch I guess comparing this panel to competitors products you don't play them led juve biomex light path red therapy all those companies um well firstly the best thing to do is head over to my red light therapy data sheet because you can see how this stacks up in all sorts of areas with those other panels and also check out my other reviews as well the main competitors I'm looking at here are the biomex 600 which is a similar size panel and the motor red motor max now if we look at the biomex 600 first so the biomex 600 after discount is eight hundred and fifty four dollars remember this was nine hundred and fifty odd dollars after discount so that's a you know that's a hundred dollar difference right um if you compare it to the biomex 900 which is bigger that's 300 leds this has 180 then the biomex 900 is only 140 dollars more than this right now both the biomex is 600 and 900 both have multi-wave technology similar to this in fact the ratios are quite similar but you're getting more power and the biomex you're getting a bit of control panel um similar on the hotspot which is interesting I'd say this is worse the biomex and you get a balanced uh you don't get any of these gaps in the middle of the biomexes but the price point like I said you're saving money and you're still getting way more leds like even the biomex 600 which is 200 200 leds has 20 more leds than this but it's cheaper right if you compare it to say the motor red motor max now the motor red motor max is like the base the motor red base series so it doesn't have all the fancy bells and whistles it's only two wavelengths but power wise it's better uh price wise it's a lot better I think we're about 700 bucks for that and you're still got um 200 leds right so yeah I mean again like it's a little bit expensive for what you're getting I guess is what I'm saying um if you compare it to another smaller player such as uh red rush there's the red rush there the red light I've got the company named red therapy co I think they're called but their panel is the red rush 720 now I tested this a few years ago they have updated it slightly they've got a pro model in the classic but if you look at the classic it's $200 cheaper than this it's got more leds than this it's only got two wavelengths sure but it has um and some really good power right so uh you know lots lots of things to factor in I guess one thing to to really consider though is if you're an international buyer if you're based in Australia Canada South Africa or something like that then this may be a lot more appealing from a price point of view because you're getting that free shipping right otherwise you know those hundred hundred fifty dollar price differences are soon eaten up once you factor in shipping and maybe customs and taxes so that is interesting um and it is why it is worth consideration I guess the downside though is this is a newer company it's only been out for a few years uh well three years now it's getting on I guess but that is some people are a little bit hesitant about buying from new companies especially if you're spending a thousand dollars so okay so what am I concluding thoughts on this panel let's do what I like first so firstly the free worldwide shipping you know that's a big plus not many companies are doing that now I know they used to a lot of companies did but they've slowly removed that um just because of shipping costs and obviously there's lots of uncertainties and variables at play there so that is a big plus the other plus is this panel does stay under that thousand dollar price mark it's nine hundred and fifty dollars after use discount code alec so that is good you know I think a lot of people don't like spending more than a thousand dollars and you know if you're looking at the viamax and you're looking at the six hundred and then you think well the nine hundred is just so much better value but it jumps up to one thousand one hundred or they're about you know some people just can't get over there at the thousand dollar price point so that's good that they've stayed under a thousand dollars here also um it is respectable power you know there are respectable power per per led and stuff you know it's it's not a low powered device in fact it's it's up there so those are the three things I do like as for the things I don't like the control panel is a little bit clunky um you know a little bit yeah but not that that's inflicting it's going to impact how well of a response you're going to get from the body but hey it's something I don't like the stands if you only get some stands they're quite expensive four hundred bucks for the stands you know typically they're only two three hundred bucks from other companies and then the low ratio in the multi-wave led so you're only getting literally you're only getting a handful of leds in some of those alternative wavelengths now again this can be seen not necessarily that bad because you may want more power in the 660 and 850 which has more research but you know something that um personally I don't like too much but the main dislike is what we saw in the hotspot test there how you're not getting even spread of um of life it's quite concentrated unless you go right back to maybe 12 18 inches but then the power the radiance of that point is going to be so low so that is a big bummer uh I do think that was the worst I've seen out of all the panels I've tested so yeah that's probably probably the biggest negative of the lot unfortunately overall there's nothing super exciting about this panel there's nothing like totally revolutionary totally new totally novel totally game-changing it doesn't exist there's no pulsing technology that you can customize or some you know fancy app that I don't know you can program in and do all sorts of cool things with that nothing like that exists in this panel it is rather standard um and it's kind of kind of standard across the board sure the power level is up there sure there's multi-wave technology but that's right the standard these days anyway um emf readings are okay but not great um yeah control panel like it's a little bit clunky to use but it's okay uh price is okay but not amazing see what I'm saying everything's sort of standard the main thing though is that hotspot like the the polka dot effect you know you're getting concentrated light which is which is bummer and that just brings it from being like oh yeah it's a good panel to being yeah it's okay panel because of this or maybe it's not even okay like maybe it's it's it's a big turn off to be honest because it you may not appreciate it but that really does have a big impact on how these panels impact the body because you're getting concentrated points you know if you're trying to treat your your knee or your chest you're getting hotspots like one or two points here you want to even spray to that light so it is a bummer in that regards however um I guess it is worth consideration if you are an international company I guess that international buyer sorry because of that free worldwide shipping you know that is a big plus and a big draw card also some of the other products that this company sell their message gun and that new roller the red light therapy roller you know that's interesting and may bring in some interest and some customers that way um but yeah I think there's probably well I know there's better panels out there and your money is probably better spent on those other panels but hey end of the day it's entirely up to you I just share my thoughts and feedback and do the testing and share all the data so you can make an informed decision now if you do want to buy one of these panels be sure to use discount code elix alex it will save you five percent it also gives me a little bit of a commission yes but it does help me to buy panels like this buy my meters and produce this content for you if you have liked this video give me a thumbs up if you want to check out my other videos because I got tons of reviews up now uh check out 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