 Yes, please come just tell me your name, please Stan Stan. Yes, Stan years ago one of the things I received from one of the teachers I had was to see if every action that I'm about to take would be for God or for the ego and I've been doing that largely for a long time and in recent years also have stopped actually sitting in meditation It feels like when I'm able to be aware and stay focused on the question then I'm I'm I'm in meditation not doing meditation and Doing it for God is now that I'm hearing you talk about the soul It feels much more real personal and yes My question is about this practice of looking to see that what I'm doing is from the soul Verses sitting in meditation Can you say something about that is meditation something that it would be still necessary to sit in and do or? It depends on how long the meditation is because when you do a short meditation It is good to quiet the system Generally, but when that meditation goes into an hour two hours three hours four hours What you're basically doing is you're putting your body into a position of discomfort and so the awareness starts to move out and you start to go into increasing experiences of of Dissolution of identity So it takes you away from this actually from from the very system that is doing that meditation When you practice the kriyas of actually just feeling the soul connecting with it tuning into it and Tuning away from the noise of the ego and into the signal of source You're very present you're here and now and the awareness does not leave it does not detach from anything So this whole system gradually becomes a Servant of the soul in the beginning of this practice you take on an identity You know Stan What's your mother's name Stan Shulamit Shulamit and where were you born South Africa South Africa so Stan son of Shulamit from South Africa. Where in South Africa? Johannesburg Is taken on as an identity as a slim identity at the beginning of this practice so that He can actually bend down and surrender to that soul to that source He tries to Feel that impulse Beyond the noise of the ego that loud demanding Ankar he tries to feel what is that truth saying what is impulse impulse impulse and When he is in this sadhana, he is in an active continuous lifelong meditation Which is this Discerning acting discerning acting and at one point what happens is Stan falls away The doer falls away and this thing Becomes a servant of that which is the truth of this Antaratman this soul That is the Sadhana to be practiced the practice itself. It's a very very very Challenging yet interesting practice because you're present You're not tuned out. You're not blissed out the experiences of joy. It's not of this blissed out state But it's present you're real. She's real to me in this moment So there is a contour there is a coherence in the system which is unknown to those that are spaced out Because people sitting in this room are sitting here because they're seekers. No, they're not sitting here because it's entertainment They're actually interested. Otherwise, they would rather be outside there and have a coffee in a cafe This this call is the call to touch the truth with your fingertips To feel this presence. It's a call but Very often that call is in the opposite direction from what should be Reached Any practice extreme practice will take you out. It won't keep you here Whether it is the inquiry who am I who am I at one point? It's oh So I'm the one observing and then the observer is observing the observed Then there is another observer that is suddenly created in the thinking who is observing the observer Who is observing the observe? Then suddenly there's another layer of an observer Who is observing the observer? Who is observing the observer that is observing the observed and it can go ad nauseam into Insanity and then boom the awareness leaves because it cannot handle the conceptual torture and Then some of these states are experienced So one doesn't want to come back into this torture. So one stays out there and detaches more and more and more from everything I'm generalizing of course, but so if you want that then The God that you are giving to that is a creation of your of your Of the conceptual because the actual solid experience will be in here Else we wouldn't be in a body Why this body then if one wants to if one is so enamored of the cosmic then might as well give up the body and be there permanently in That oneness but the the Awareness of this and it's gradually increasing consciousness of itself is what that joyousness in this life is about