 The nature of a power area. In a world striving towards betterment and a fair stance on equity, some states leaders have deliberately chosen the something ship of this seat and inefficient leadership, thus placing followers of citizens in hardship. Parai in this context is leadership league with structural fatalities, loopholes and ineffective policies, a red flag of pariah leadership. The people have little or no say in their face of the state or a system or even an organization. The dictatorial attributes got fatalism and recycled leadership among same persons of similar interests at the expense of other persons in the system or the nation. Systems that are heavily dependent on caste and tribal routines may call it traditional treatment of other persons in the system. These and more are the signs of pariah leadership in any given community. A move to eliminate this system totally would be unrealistic, hence the need for fairness in leadership, wayward and effective policies at whose negative means. Baby steps are what we need to approach this anomaly. Some of these could be a tensioner inclusion, equity to achieve equality, feedback approach, fairness and justice. Leadership should be about doing the right things in the right manner at the right time, respecting differences as seeking to share common value. Why do we pariah is about outlaw, outcast, ostracizing a set of people or a caste system, being partial in your dealings. So let's discuss this. So Victor, you know this issue of dealing with peasants in the country, why some peasants believe that they are not only stick to power, power belongs to them. Why some peasants have the opportunity to select the right people for the job? Simply because oh it's not from my tribe, oh it's not from my religion, oh it's not from this or that, oh it's from the certain place that we don't deal with a day. We bring the peasants and these people come in and click on the system. So that's what we're facing, where our institutions are smaller than people. So what's your take on this, Victor? Well I've said this before on the advocate, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely. And it's, I think the part of intentional inclusion, right, I picked that from what you said. It's really important that we begin to ask ourselves what kind of future do we want. I know I mean it's going to be really hard to really really evade this kind of system, the pariah system. It's going to be really very like practically unrealistic because of the way power is. And again it stems from our values. What is the value of a Nigeria? Even within a tribe people are still creating divisions, oh you're Igbo, there's this side of Igbo and then in that side of Igbo there's another side of Igbo. So there's a lot of, so our values, there's a lot of, I mean we don't have a unified value system. What's our value collectively? What unites us together? So what maybe you can say is I mean what is Nigeria's football? It's when you're playing football over, after football we're done. So I think we need to redefine what is the value of a Nigeria? I'm not talking about the value of an house or Igbo or Epic or Yoruba. What is the value of a Nigeria? And we need to strengthen those values, right, because the truth of the matter like I said earlier or sometimes on the show is it is the people that we are mingling with or talking with today that's going to end up in power, right? So I think we need to really fix our value system. Like I really don't even know myself what is the value of being a Nigerian. Yeah, I know worldwide the university does this. I say one of the values is living diversity. So what's your thought, diversity is the size of life, right? Yeah. So first of all, outside that I think getting people in position should be based on merit. So it shouldn't be based on if you are, let me say if you are from a classical tribe or based on sentiments that should be the same. It shouldn't be based on sentiment. So even if you're getting people like you have, because once you start getting people involved based on sentiment you are reducing the quality of people you get in that position. And in the long term it will affect the system. So if you check in, I think that's actually what's affecting the nation. Because getting the, rather than for you to get people with the right skills on board, you're getting someone based on sentiment. And in the long run, you will kill that system because if you get someone who is not good into that position the person maybe before he leaves, he gets someone to replace him and that person who is replacing him may not be that good in that position. So in the long run we're all losing that. Just before it goes sorry, just to buttress my talk on values. I mean, remember in secondary school, even in primary school, I'm the class captain. I'm just the right names of noise maker. I don't like to combo. The way he's always looking at me. So you say it's all coming wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back. So let's vote for the next assistant class captain. So people are raising their hands based on, ah, he doesn't need to give me sweets in the bus when we enter a bus. Are you seeing people are reforming cabals? So you're not voting a maker because she's qualified to become the assistant class captain. You're voting a maker because she gives you sweets on the bus. So we need to go back and fix that. It's a faulty thing. I'm going to fix it. It's part of our value system. I'm going to ask you a question. In primary school, it was class monitor this. Class monitor that time. We go to secondary school. It was class captain. There was this popular person. I think if I'm going to put, I think she's my manager. She says something about why she was in primary school. Class monitor in her own way. Simply because she was a girl. They said that the highest, the person that scored the highest that performed very well in the exam will become the class monitor. Then she and the guy had a tie. Now they gave it to the guy because she was a girl. She confronted the teacher that she wanted to be teacher. As you know, a woman cannot or a girl cannot be class monitor. Now the reason why I brought that out is I'm going to relate it to you. You are a successful career woman. I'm very quite sure. Your environment might be very good for you in terms of encouraging you to fight her, to push her. It doesn't matter who you are, you can do it anyway. But there are many girls out there that they desire to be where you are today. But they are in a wrong environment that keeps telling them that you are a girl. You cannot do this. You cannot do that. You cannot do this. Okay, so I can mention I have been blessed. I have been fortunate to be in an environment where I have had people put me, I mean, regardless of my gender. In fact, my gender is not a consideration. It has never been a consideration. I know the work. That's all that matters. And I understand that there are women that do not have such opportunities like I do. So it's very important to actually think about those things. What can typically work in those cases? I mean, this is an advice for someone that has never experienced it. So it might be a bit theoretical, right? So, but what might really work in those cases? Like in the case, Chimamanda has actually set the standard. You have to actually fight for your right eventually. Because if you get to a certain stage in my career, I know that I would have to always fight for my right. And I'm getting myself prepared for it. Because I know that some people are not going to always give me that space. So like I say, I saw a quote that was put up by one of my respected person. She said, she said diversity is a policy. Inclusion is an intention. So you have to make conscious efforts as a business, as a person to ensure that people are put into positions based on merits regardless of whatever gender or tribe or religion they are from. I like that diversity is a policy. It's good on paper. But in practical inclusion is intentional. It was put on. The thing is, from what we've got is 22 years of community. I hope Nigeria will learn to grow beyond our parochialism, religious sentiment, tribalism, who our leaders will be. Then also within our reach in our local businesses, the corporate family, let's respect everyone. Everybody cannot be like you. We will not be from where you are. Respect people and just let's stick to our common values and then the system will work. Well, time is never our friend on this program. However, the advocacy continues on our social media platforms, on Facebook, plus TV Africa, hashtag the advocate NG and Instagram at plus TV Africa, hashtag the advocate NG. To catch up with our previous brokers, go to plus TV Africa dot com forward slash the advocate NG. Don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel plus TV Africa. See you next week. Same time on this station. Let's keep advocating for a better society.