 Is your head cut off? If it is, I should be bleeding. You look better. Thanks. Hey, welcome back to our studio direction of Corbin. I'm Rick. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content. Thank you to everybody's supports on Patreon. Follow us for your Twitter account. And subscribe and hit the like button. Yeah. And welcome back. Today we're doing a movie review. And we're in our car because we watched it on the phone in our car. Yeah. That's a little screen. No. Best way to watch a movie. Obviously just stepped out of Jawan. The highly anticipated second film of Shah Rukh Khan in 2023. It's directed by Atlee. And I think the story and screen was by Atlee as well. Yes. By the people as well. Composed by Ani starring Shah Rukh Khan. Nayan... What's their name for me? Easy for you to say. Nayan Thara. Wait. And Vijay Sarapathy. Yogi Babu. Did you see Yogi Babu? No. Was he in this? Wow. Or did he get cut? And obviously other people because I think obviously the whole cast is not here. But obviously it's Shah Rukh Khan's film as you all know. Just stepped out of it. Obviously since it just came out we're going to do a first non-spoiler review. If we want to get some spoilers we're going to get to spoilers. We will let you know before we do that. We shall not ruin it for you. Rick, your initial thoughts of Jawan. So this was tremendously disappointing for me. I am extraordinarily disappointed. So yeah. Didn't like it. Tremendously disliked it. Yeah. Tremendously. I have... I can only think of maybe two things to say that I would find complimentary about it because there's so many other things that are so tremendously disappointing. So yeah. I really disliked it. I definitely didn't hate it like you did. I didn't love it either. If I was to give it a gray to be... And I know it'll be much higher than regardless of what my score is. I'm going to be higher than yours. Probably more the 65 range out of 100. If I'm doing that maybe closer at parts maybe 70. It just depends on the part. So I enjoyed it much more in parts. This film was massy through the ass by every definition of the word. Which is obviously a genre that we still are not accustomed to. And also next time we have one of these films I'm going to go regardless of when it is I'm going to go to whatever showtime has the most people. Yeah. Because I think that's also sometimes with these style of films because they're not our normal cup of tea obviously in terms of massy kind of films. It helps when you have a crowd that's also enjoying it obviously. And I know a bunch of people are enjoying it. But obviously definitely didn't enjoy as much as I've heard other people have enjoyed it for sure. I know I've probably enjoyed it more than Rick did. Yeah. But we'll get into it obviously. Did you enjoy... What did you enjoy first? I appreciated the... I mean, Atlee can clearly with the team of his cinematographers... Your head cut off? Sorry. I want to make sure your head's not cut off. Okay, good. Atlee clearly with his team of cinematographers can do some things that are extremely intricate technically with cinematography and visuals. Got you. Yeah. You didn't enjoy any of the fight scenes though? I liked... Logic apart. No, no, no. I was logic apart on the fight scenes especially in regard to something that's revealed in the very first fight scene that happens which I liked and felt maybe that's a particular direction we were going to justify some of the things that we were going to see. But no, there wasn't anything particularly stand outish for me with the fight scenes. Yeah. He didn't like the... Without giving it away like there's one... The interval. There's an interval scene. Yeah. I enjoyed that interval scene regardless of like how it fell in terms of like the story of whatever. It was a very South Indian, messy. Even though I actually, in this, one of the issues I had with it is that it didn't go as South Indian, messy as I would have liked it to in terms of the fight scenes. So like in certain... We've seen some South Indian, messy fight scenes obviously a lot. A lot. And like let's say if there's a hammer, that hammer's going through somebody's skull and we will see it. And I feel like we didn't get that. I was waiting for some like, some fun bone breaks, all this kind of stuff and I... No, from my money that came with Jailer. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Obviously, a thousand percent enjoyed Jailer. That was a lot of fun. And at times I did enjoy this film for the messy moments and stuff like that but it never went far enough in terms of... I feel like it was like a watered down South Indian mess film. Yeah, that's a good description, yes. Obviously, story aside of certain plot points. No, when we were just specifically talking about the action sequences and the stunt sequences I would absolutely say that's why they just never really engaged me because the last time that I saw that on a big screen was not too long ago with Jailer and that Jailer's just from start to finish just such a fun, wonderful movie. Yeah, and like I said, I enjoyed parts of the... There's fight scenes and there was some comedy that I appreciated but I wanted the fight scenes to just be more epic and I felt like maybe they were watering it down for the Hindi commercial audience maybe and I was like, well, if you have a South Indian director, why not take advantage of that because that's one of the things that did disappoint me even though I didn't... I hate the fight scenes. I just... I wanted... if it's a South Indian director, South Indian production shall we con one to be a South Indian superhero basically? Yes. Why not go full throttle? Especially in the fight scenes is what I'm talking about. I agree with you completely. Even though my favorite was the interval fight scene, I liked that one a lot but what about the performance? Not that there was like an Oscar-worthy performance. What did you think about the performances? I was more disappointed with performances than anything that would have impressed me primarily because so much of the script was just dreadful and a lot of the performances were just performative. I didn't see anything like, again, comparing it to say jailer for as as massy and big and over the top there was still some level of... because the script was better there was a level of believability of these characters other than just being like I said at the outset I just... this didn't feel any more connective to me as a human being than if I was watching Micah play a video game and I think this would probably be... and it's not neither of our favorite genres similar to and I've never seen all but one of them and it was one of the older ones like Fast and Furious or Expendable, we saw the trailer for the new Expendables movies which was absolutely the right film to put as a trailer before this movie they knew their audience for the trailer neither of our favorite kinds of movies like action is usually never... even though I can appreciate some good action obviously and there's some... if it's done well I can appreciate it but it's never going to be my favorite style of film it would be my least favorite... if someone said what's your least favorite style of film I would say it's just brainless action films like Jason Statham I've seen one Jason Statham film and that's why I've never seen another one they just... I'd rather watch Grass Grail and this was... this was... similar at least I think because I've never actually seen those movies but like in terms of... if you're trying to think of any kind of logic you're just... you're already dead to rights or... or... yeah logic in every way not just logic in the terms of the action and the stunt work and things of that nature but any logic in terms of things that happen in the story any logic in terms of the relationships that people have any logic that happens in terms of continuity any logic that happens in terms of believability with makeup even... there were points where I just was thinking to myself again... how are you allowing that CGI with Red Chili's name attached to it and the amount of money that an SRK film can garner I just... yeah it just... missed it every level for me A lot of the songs were good but we'd seen most of them already I think it was... two I guess and there were parts like they left out of the stuff that we saw in our reaction as well there was quite a few cameos yeah there's some cameos there's some cameos and then there's like... VJ Sadapathy's character who plays the villain in this which is not a spoiler yeah he's in the trailer and you would assume he would be the villain from it I thought he did fine like I said you did? yeah I did I was disappointed I wasn't expecting his normal gravitas oh no I wasn't... I didn't anyway my expectations might have been lower because I was expecting action Patan which I think this had actually had better action than Patan and better CGI I liked Patan much better did you like this more than Patan? it depends because the second half of Patan was extremely disappointing for us and the CGI was awful it was but I could sit through the first half of Patan again easily I enjoyed the first half of Patan yeah like I said I didn't hate this movie as much as you hated it so it's different both have their flaws for sure and both aren't totally my style of film either so I'd much rather see Shabrakan in a full-on romance role or something like Dawn II that also had action flaws too though yeah but it is head and shoulders for me above this well that wasn't trying to be fully massy either I'm not sure mass is one fully our thing but definitely not your thing well is Jailermass? I think you also gave Jailer a lot more forgiveness because it's Rajnikanth I'm not trying to say this is anywhere Jailer's a much better film than Jailermass I agree and it is mass? yeah I mean Rajnikanth is the king this movie star of mass that had just a little more groundedness though than a normal mass so I think normal mass you're not so is normal mass basically expendables? I think so you guys can let us know if I'm wrong but most of the mass films that we've seen you have not been a huge fan of I'm not trying to defend them if what it means for a mass film is to be like say for example a Jason Statham film where all logic in every sense of the form and any attentiveness to anything of artistic merit is just kind of thrown out the wayside because you're just going to have a banging good time in some way that is on par with say a video game then yeah I'm not a massy fan yeah because I think the point of mass films is just entertainment and I don't think there's actually anything wrong with that it's just some people is not obviously their cup of tea understandably but I know I have film buff friends who are like the biggest film buff I know that like they'll break down every single part of a film but they also love fast films I know somebody who their favorite kind of a film was a Jason Statham film and I went to them with that's the one film I went to and I just could not it's not everybody's cup of tea because obviously people look for different things in film some people just want escapism and entertainment and some people obviously they want more from that from the cinema obviously you are one of those that wants more from your cinema but I don't have any problem with and I do appreciate films that are entertaining I just don't know why anyone would find this kind of a film to be entertaining well I think there's I wouldn't agree with that I think there's entertaining parts of this film is that a full-fledged package that I love and I think it's like a like RRR would technically be have mass in it I wouldn't classify that as a full mass just because I think SS Rajamouli is just really gifted at his craft in terms of like making mass good and entertaining because there's mass moments like the fact that a junior NTR can carry Ramhturan on his shoulders and then killing people like no logic obviously massive stranding of credulity in that respect but you've earned at that point for me you've earned the right to do that kind of thing so for example in this in addition in addition no I won't in addition to the lack of logic in so many respects one of the other things that this film does ad nauseam is try to make you know try to cash in on emotion where you've done nothing of a deposit in any way shape or form into the audience to justify the fact that you're going to try to cash in on that emotion other than you're just going to placate and that is especially in some regards which we'll talk about in the spoilers in a second where it was almost insulting to me that you're trying to now tap into my emotions when you've done literally nothing to invest in them with anything coming close to being empathetic or even humanly interesting so that's another part from what I've found of mass films is not only mass action basically a lot of times no logic everything's basically just for entertainment or to get an emotion out of you everything that is the purpose not to make you believe it just to get it out of you which to me you know trying to evince an emotion out of someone without it being honest is which is one of the reasons that the problem I had with Jailer even though I know you didn't have the same problem is I felt they were doing that with Jailer which they didn't do for most of the film at the end that's one of the issues I had this one obviously the entire time they were doing it and so maybe it would have fit better but that was one of the reasons I didn't like it I felt they just did that to get the emotion out of me I know you didn't have that issue with that yeah I know what part you're talking about and I didn't think it was manipulative but I feel like that is another aspect of mass but at least they saved that to the end and tried to justify it with the fact that they had a relationship like I said ShowerCon had some funny moments he obviously it's no spoilers and he plays a few characters and that's in the trailer but it's just overall I had an okay time I know you did not but I mean you probably had a better time than Theory though no can you say that? yeah I could say that they're little positives but I didn't have the kind of expectations for that maybe for the next mass films we should go in with less expectations I don't know because I had high expectations for Jailer and it exceeded him for me that's true maybe this just was a bad movie maybe you guys let us know what you thought about the film and that's one of my big issues I think if this had been a South Indian film it might have even been better because it felt almost watered down that's one of my biggest issues if I'm going in for a big mass Danish film I want to go in for a big mass Danish film kick an ass and obviously bone breaks at times, not all the time there was moments that I did enjoy that they were watering it down for the Hindi commercial audience either that or just trying and not succeeding yeah maybe it's a South Indian director so I assumed it was somebody else telling him because he knows how to make the mass films but anyways, obviously done with the non-spoilers we'll go into the spoils now come back you can let us know and then we're going to get into some spoils that's just what we wanted to talk about I guess the first thing I was never looking for logic there's just one moment specifically that was like that is insane that's what you decided to go in when you fell from the sky that was insultingly stupid there's so many different ways you could have done it it's just more believable it just basically lets you know audience, we think you're complete idiots and we don't care but the fact that he fell from a plane whatever the distance was it could have been 10,000 feet internal velocity at that point but the fact that he won the branch breaks his fall that would have cut him in half but then water is essentially like I saw a real of a guy doing a dive off of a cliff that was about 35 feet high and he hit the water and broke his back at 30 feet he did get incredibly hurt and then he laid there for a month and got up and destroyed I think it was six months as he laid there and was able to get up and destroy everybody but that happened in Batman they broke his back he was becoming the incarnation of a god that's what justified it for me in the beginning at the very beginning I was looking for the justification we didn't know what had happened how did this guy bleeding out laying there for a month suddenly have the power to destroy all the people that had attacked the village and it was because the guy had been praying to God and said prove that you're not more than just a stone and he had become imbued that for me was the only justification in the film there was a bunch of moments obviously but I was looking so can I bring up the ones I dislike? if you can give me a justification that's not the point of this film one, if you're going to show somebody naked just show them naked, don't do the stupid I'm going to blur it for you well, the censor board gosh anyway if so did you know that you could find out someone's pregnant just by checking their pulse? I had no idea that's another one we assume you don't know how people get pregnant you're going to have someone take her pulse and look at you and say she didn't just faint, she's pregnant good grief um I also didn't know you could raise a kid in prison that was new to me good grief I don't think we need to go down all the times because once again, if you're looking for logic in a mask I think you've already lost I'm not trying to defend any of them the most egregious one I thought the pregnancy one was just hilarious seriously, the most egregious one no, at first I really liked the direction things were going on the train and the fact that he was a Robin Hood who was doing what he was doing and I thought, oh my goodness, this is actually like a legitimate point about the farmers I wasn't expecting this is this thing going to have some balls? is this going to be like an action film that also talks about some of the deeper realities of what really goes on in the world like Dark Knight it not only didn't it then used those issues as just a point of being part of the story and it ended to the point where it just became insulting not just to intelligence but insulting to the actual issues themselves they were used as just plot points to continue the film rather than legitimate stories which they had done on the train at the beginning and that deeply bothered me because they're very real instances where I thought, you know what, how cool would it be I was thinking this at the train segment and he's this anti-hero like Veefer Vendetta or even the Joker I consider an anti-hero who is wanting to correct some of the wrongs he sees in India and then what if SRK came out after the movie opened and said, I've created an organization and all of the proceeds from this film are at least what I've made on this film since I'm worth nearly $1 billion are going to go to the issues in this film in some way, shape or form and actually cross that line between entertainment and actually having your message become something that's impactful and changes the lives of the people that you're using in the story as part of your plot line so I guess I would be disappointed I was just trying to remember what I wanted to talk about in spoilers there's something specifically but I'm trying to continuity, no, no, it's not a negative I was just wanting to talk about a kid raised in prison no, Rick, stop no, I'm genuinely... no, no, no, no I'm saying those things to save the triggers of thought no, um... it's nothing to do with I actually would love to see VJ Sattapathy be Santa Claus nothing to do with the movie I know he's doing a Merry Christmas movie obviously that comes out later this year I think he would be a great Indian Santa Claus you look great I think he would be a great... I love his look at this his look with the beard was epic, he was handsome I actually loved in terms of just some of the other things I would love ShowerCon to come out as the old look ShowerCon in like a full... maybe when he's 20 years from now when he's older and do look like Superstar Rajrakanta just kicking ass because I like that look a lot Deepika's role I thought some of her action was cool but I wanted her to do more I wanted her action to be... that's one of my main things like I've said, I wanted some of the action to just go farther because you have one, Red Chillies and two, you have a South Indian director they know how to do mass action and I just... I wanted to see Deepika crackin' heads so I wanted some bad assery I actually thought the girls would be involved in more of the bad assery to a certain extent too they were, they just... you didn't show them as bad asses maybe I wanted it to I didn't hate the movie I know Rick did I didn't hate the movie but I wanted more I definitely wanted more in terms of just from what we've seen Jailer, right? this is a thousand percent bigger than Jailer in terms of the production size obviously but you think you could do more then, right? but sometimes less is more, right? no, and that's the thing for me is because I so appreciate Shahrukh Khan and to know he has full creative control over every single thing it's Red Chillies, that's his company it's his name to do the film and have it be done and walk away and say, yeah, I'm happy with that is just shocking for me I've already heard a lot of people really enjoy this film so it might just be an us thing that just don't get this style of film it's possible, obviously we've given you our point and we're going to be honest it will never be not be honest, it's happened many times something extremely popular in terms of Pushpa KGF2 Patan, even though we appreciate parts of Patan we didn't love it as much as everybody else did I think the closest things would be where everybody was jumping up and down raving about Pushpa and KGF2 and that hopefully I hope that's one of the things you love about us is that you know when we say something positive and affirmative we mean it because we will tell you when we really dislike something and it's never with the intent the movie, right at the beginning it said, hope you enjoy the show and I said, I really hope so because you don't go into a film hoping it's going to fail unless you're just a mean person and the movie is made by somebody that you truly detest I go in rooting I wanted this to be good so you guys can let us know what you thought about the film if you liked it, if you didn't like it why we're idiots as always it all helps the algorithm so just let us know down below