 Monday, June the 15th, 2020 meeting of the Montpelier design review committee. I will let everyone introduce themselves on the committee and staff. And Steve Everett on the committee, and I'm Meredith Crandall, the staff for the committee. And I'm Mike Miller. I'll be trying to operate the admitting people and taking questions in the chat room. Okay. And Meredith, do you want to review the meeting procedures? Yeah. So I'm going to do a share screen so that anybody who's watching via orca can see. Oh, I just want to share one thing. To make into the access information in case they're wanting to log in. So, due to the state of emergency declared by Governor Scott as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to addendum six to executive order 01-20 and act 92 the design review committee is authorized to me electronically. Therefore, there is no physical location to observe and listen contemporaneously to this meeting. However, in accordance with the temporary amendments to open meeting law, the design review committee is providing public access to the meeting by hosting a video conference meeting, including both video and telephone access options through the zoom portal. All members of the committee have the ability to communicate at the same time during this meeting through this platform and the public has access to listen and if desired participate in this meeting in real time. To do that, you can either join the zoom meeting at this link here anybody who's watching via orca. And also another option is to call into the meeting at 929-205-6099 and plug in this meeting ID and password. I will be leaving this up while I'm reading through this. We previously gave notice to the public of the information for accessing this meeting through posting of our agenda. The instructions are also provided on the city's website at this pending applications link here. If anybody has a problem accessing the meeting while they're in the zoom portal, you can or otherwise you can either email the meeting moderator Mike Miller at M Miller at Montpelier hyphen vt.org that if you're in the zoom portal and you're having problems, you can message Mike through the chat function in zoom. When you actually log into the meeting to participate either via telephone or through the zoom portal, you're going to have an opportunity to tell the moderator which applications you're wishing to comment on. And when the chair announces that the time for public comment on that application arrives, the moderator will unmute members of the public based on the order you submit your intent to comment. If you're interested in speaking on a matter and didn't say you would like to speak previously on that particular application, please raise your hand if you're on video or you can unmute yourself and state your name or you can use the chat function to reach out to Mike and city staff will add you to the queue. Once the chairs recognize you to participate, if especially if you're a member of a public versus an applicant, then the moderator will unmute your microphone, and you'll be free to provide questions or comments evening to keep those initial comments to two minutes. The PRC members will have an opportunity to respond or ask questions of you and the applicant may also have an opportunity to respond. Tonight, it doesn't look like we have any members of the public. So far, we just have applicants. But if anybody watching and I'm interested, it can come in. After you finish speaking your microphone will be muted again as applies to applicants and public public parties that are interested. The moderator will then call the next person to speak. If you're a member of the public you can, you know, speak again later but we're going to try and keep things muted. When you're not actually speaking if it all possible it helps reduce people talking over each other interference from background noise. In the event the public is unable to access then this meeting it will be continued to a time and place certain. It's important to note that all votes taken during this meeting that are not unanimous will be done by roll call vote on that meeting back over to the chair Steve. Okay, to move to move forward. Do I hear a motion to approve the agenda. I move to approve the agenda. This is Martha. Seconds. Okay, all in favor speak your name. Hannah. Stephen. Okay, we can move forward to the first applicant, which is for 107 State Street. Honor John Russell and applicant, Carolyn Earl. Is Carolyn there. Robin is Robin. Sorry. There we go. Hi, I'm Robin Freeman. I'm Caroline's law partner. So I don't really have anything to say beyond what's in the application we're replacing the sign outside because the name of the firm changed we're doing as best we can to keep the sign coloring size everything is close to what's on the building right now. It's just really the lettering that's going to change. I'm just going to scroll down just so the public can see as well to, here we go. This is a good representation of what this is going to look like. And this is the for anybody following along in the full meeting packet. This is on page 12 of the meeting packet. This is the actual look of the sign is exactly the same as something that's shown earlier in the meeting packet, but this one has installation details from the sign manufacturer about the, you know, how far out it's going to stick the, how far off the building it will sit and the style of installation and location. Oh, I'm really tired of this. Robin, this is Martha. It indicates that your new sign is going to be 95 and a half inches. Do you know how large the existing sign is. According to the sign application that was filled out years ago when that one was approved. It's the same size. Okay, great. Thank you. It must have been a change because our packet shows the length of the sign at 92 inches so I'm assuming that's been corrected. Steve, it's a few pages beyond that. There's another. There's another copy. I might see that there's two copies. Yeah. Oh, there's Earl and Freeman PLC 95 and a half. And there's another one in there that says Earl and Freeman PLC 92 inches. Um, yeah, that's something from when I didn't even catch that that was something from the manufacturer when he sent the new one he didn't tell me was going to change the size of the science that might be a typo. We didn't ask him to change the size of the sign. I didn't catch that either to be honest. So, okay, nothing consequential, but I just thought it maybe somebody might want to correct that in the information. Yeah, I'll, he might have actually put this into production already, but I will send him an email immediately after saying, you know, make sure that the size was what we requested it to be. Okay, no problem. Does anyone on the committee have any questions, comments or suggestions? Follow by town. No. Okay, I mean it's the same size sign, same location, just the change of name of the business. So, if nobody has any objections, I will run through the evaluation criteria for the sign. Call it by town. Otherwise, just press how to continue. You are in the meeting now. There are 11. They're recording coming through. That might be Seth who's logging in. Is that Tratter? Oh, hi, Eric. Eric by phone and I had my, I could hear you guys, but I couldn't see anything. So now I'm on phone. Okay. Can you hear me? It's Seth. Yes. So we have Seth in there. Do you, are you still there? I am. I was lost. I lost the video for a moment. It was gone. Okay. We're back. I'll go through the evaluation criteria. Number one, a preservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic style of those projects in the historic district acceptable. No harmony of exterior design acceptable. Competibility of proposed materials with other properties acceptable. No landscaping proposed. And this application. Prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings, colors, exterior materials acceptable. Location and appearance of all utilities. None. No changes proposed to the application. The application of and respect for view quarters and significant vistas, including gateway views of the city and state house acceptable. Conformance with city skate placement and design recommendations. Acceptable. Competibility with subject property and adjacent properties acceptable. Not obscure significant architectural details acceptable. Consistency and uniformity of multiple signs not applicable. Illumination not applicable. Penance and banners, not applicable. And individual letters of fixed painted or engraved directly on the building or structure or encourage the sign is acceptable in this location. I'm going to hear a vote by everyone speaking their name. This is Martha I say yes. And it says yes. Seth or Eric are you there. Yes, if you didn't get me last time. Okay. Okay. And Steve says yes. So it's unanimous. So Robin, and I actually I need to work this into my intro. For this DRC permit, it's an administrative permit. So Steve is going to fill out a recommendation sheet that goes through all of those criteria he just talked about. I'll send that to me. I'll send it to you. I just need at the least an email back to me acknowledging your receipt of that. There's no conditions on it. So we don't have to, you don't have to sign it for a mat. And then I'll issue the administrative permit. And then just bearing in mind that there is an appeal period after the permit, but this is a sign here. You're not. There's no big issues. I don't anticipate anybody appealing you updating your sign. Thank you. You're welcome, Robin. We can move forward to the application for 152 Main Street. Cassandra Coakley for the rooftop solar array. Is Cassandra there or someone for the applicant. Yeah, I'm here Cassandra Coakley is here. Go ahead and describe your solar panels application. So we are interested in installing some solar panels on the building. I enclosed a photo of the building showing where exactly the solar panels will go. Also, I enclosed a photo from Catamount solar who is going to be doing the job, just an aerial view so that you can see what the panels look like on the front part of the building. Yeah, you can see right there that this I asked him if this was to scale or like what were the exact dimensions of these panels on the building. The front part that's more visible from the road. Yes, right there is going to be about a 10 by 10 area of black on black solar panels. So what that means is that oftentimes you'll see the solar that has the silver framework that is a little bit more visible. This building has a darker roof so we thought the black on black would blend in a little bit better especially being in the downtown area. The back part of the building which is the main array which is much larger is going to have 24 panels so it'll be about 20 feet by 23 feet. That's a larger section of roof if you look at the photo of the building. The front part is really just the one story. There are about two stories of coverage on the back which is a little bit more hidden from the road. Does anyone on the committee have any comments questions or suggestions about the solar panel installation. It's new things killing me. So mounted to the standing seam. Yes. Yes, that's correct. And then the power. Is that going to be next to the existing meter or how does that, how does that come into play. Well, the I'm not sure how they're going to do that the meters are on the other side of the building which aren't really visible from the road. So any, you know, duct work that they might have to do I think would be pretty well hidden just like the existing electrical wires and things are. Right. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else have any questions. If not, I can go ahead with the recommendation form the evaluation criteria. Number one preservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic style of the proposed projects in the historic district or involves an historic structure. The adaptation of the solar panels. And to the standing seam roof seems acceptable. Any of exterior design with other properties in the district. Acceptable compatibility of proposed exterior materials. Acceptable compatibility or proposed landscaping non proposed prevention of the use of incompatible designs buildings colors games or exterior materials acceptable location and appearance of all utilities acceptable. All in favor of the application speak your names one by one please. Seth Mitchell. This is Martha, I say yes. And it says yes. Steven says yes. Yes, yes. Okay. It's approved unanimous narrative. You want to. Sorry, I was just writing. So Cassandra is going to be the same situation as it was with the prior permit where I will send you a copy of the recommendation form that Eric just went through. And you'll get to see that and just you can you can print it outside and send it back to me or you can just send me an email acknowledging your receipt of it. And that the review is your agree with the review and then we'll issue your administrative permit. Excellent. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you very much and good luck with your project. Thanks for pretty excited. Good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Does anyone have anything else at the moment? Otherwise, do I hear a motion to has everyone had a chance to look at the minutes from June the 1st. Eric was not in attendance. Okay. I was not in attendance either. I was and I moved to accept them. Do I hear a second, Hannah? Yep. I'm in favor of the June the 1st of minutes. Speak your name. Martha. And a favor. Hannah. And Steve in favor. So the minutes are approved by a vote of 3. Does anyone else have any other business. Meredith. Mike anyone? Nope. I don't even know if we have an application yet for July 6th, but that's three weeks out. So people have two more weeks to get in applications for you. So next meeting is July 6th, and so we all get a little bit of a break. Okay. Oh, and just while I've got you on here, and I'll send around something in writing too, for August, we're only going to have the first meeting. We're not going to have two meetings in August. So the August 17th meeting is going to be canceled. You can take a little vacation time away from this. Or better, I can take a long vacation time away from this for a little bit like a week. That's good. So no getting on the 3rd of August. The 17th August meeting. Okay. Yeah, you'll get something in writing as well. But since I had you all here and the decision had been made, I figured I'd let people know as soon as possible. Okay. If no one has anything else, do I hear a motion to adjourn? Eric move. Do I hear a second? I'll second it. This is Martha. All in favor, speak your name. Martha. Eric. Hannah. D. Everybody. Okay. Good. Meeting is adjourned.