 Knocked off the hook if you played enough Star Wars pod racer Well, I can do it. I just you you're what you're saying is I just need to be more zen about it Just let them go in front of me. Yeah, it's them cut and the thing is it's not it's not a sprint Everyone treats it as a sprint. It's a marathon But you're always having to change your speed then if you could just go the one speed most of the time It'd be fine, but then you're always oh, it keeps me awake. It's a very straight highway. It keeps me awake Yeah, that's true. There's not much else to do part of the mental gymnastics. They do to keep me awake Especially when you get those trucks with the towing the beehives And they get all covered in your windshield. You got to stop at the gas station wipe them off. I know those like when you go through What's the you've never been behind a truck with a beehive on it? Yeah, you've never seen this trip dirt. It's always during the spring They bring around the bees to pollinate all the orchards But they carry a month of my driving on interstate 5 in November in December, I guess So I'll see I would be why I Do not get the apiary like experience that you get bees Had bees stuck in my grill and my windshield wipers everything Where's Bellbot Right here. You know your Bellbot your chat client by oh Man, oh Did you have a falling out? You ready to get started. Yeah, let's go ready Roger. Yes, let me hide Quality content thrives for the support of those who benefit from its creation If you gain value from the Daily Tech news show consider joining others like me who provide support learn how to help at DailyTechnewshow.com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday August 22nd 2016 I'm Tom married joining me today as she does most Mondays miss Veronica Belmont from deep in the heart of San Francisco Oh, that's where I left my heart Did you find it? You're there? Have to look far. I shouldn't have left it here though. Bad idea Of course Veronica calling us from her new job. Well, it's not even that new anymore. It's still new wish This is week four. I guess. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're a vet now. I'm an old pro You're an old pro with the growbot But we're gonna be talking a little bit about self-assembling machines something they're researching out at MIT in a bit Sony is raising the price of a PlayStation Plus membership from $50 to $60 a year So you should know that if you're a Sony Plus Person now here are some more top stories Android new get is out of beta and available for Google's Nexus devices the Pixel C tablet and the general mobile 4g That's one of their Android one phones If you don't have one of those yet to wait for your carrier to sign off on it It should roll out to the Google Nexus is over the next couple of weeks I did not get my new get on either of my devices yet I have a 5x and a pixel C but hoping to get them later today You can jump to the front of the line if you sign up for the beta programs It's not like you can't get it, but otherwise if you're just waiting for it to get pushed to you You're gonna you might have to wait The L of G v 20 will be the first phone sold with new get pre-installed that arrives in early September New get let's take action right from a notification. So they can answer emails stuff like that It bundles notifications from the same app Added a new look and customization options to the quick settings drop-down. Wibbit widget. Wibbit Wibbit and of course the big attention-getter is the ability to see two apps side-by-side just like in Windows 1.0 See two apps at the same time also a data saver mode that lets notifications through but doesn't let large downloads through Easier on your bandwidth cap and starting with new get updates will download in the background and alert you when they are ready To install that is actually my favorite feature of this update because whenever I have to update Android it always it seems like it takes forever It really doesn't take that long but because you have to wait for the download and then the restart and everything This will be nice. That is a delicious looking update got to say. Mm-hmm full of new giddy goodness I like new good. I don't know understand people who don't but that's a topic for a different day Fast company reports Apple has acquired health data company glimpse which puts medical records and health details into a secure bundle Customers can choose to share with doctors caregivers and researchers if they so wish Glimpse was founded in 2013 by Anil Sethi a former Apple systems engineer So coming back into the fold. Yeah, and I believe he was an engineer in the 80s, too So this is this is not somebody who was just there a couple years ago left and boomer-ranging right back Also, I feel like we should point out that glimpse has two eyes Leaves that it what it's got two eyes Leaves But I think I think this makes a lot of sense because go ahead. No, you go ahead. You're you're on it Okay, I was gonna say this makes a lot of sense considering that we're all like a lot of people are wearing Apple watches these days I shouldn't say we all because it's actually a very small fraction of all the people out there But I would like to be able to use some of that data in some kind of meaningful sort of way So this would be a great application of that data Yeah, Apple's trying to do this already like allow you to share your measurement data with your doctor allow you to share it with researchers and so Acquiring a company that not only does that but you know with all of the intricacies of HIPAA compliance and everything else Figures out how to navigate that world and allow you to have all of your medical information I mean personally that would be nice to just have it all under my control not that it isn't under my control But it's not in one place So so being able to have that option and then you know I guess my only regret is I would like to be able to use other devices with this than just Apple devices, but Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, not in this way The Wall Street Journal has sources who appear to confirm the legitimacy of a leaked picture of a new smaller version of the PlayStation 4 Sony has a press announcement scheduled for September 7th in New York where it is expected to announce a 4k capable PlayStation This is the one that they have said we're going to have a 4k PlayStation its project name is Neo We don't expect that to be the final name of the product But we'll find that out on September 7th and the Wall Street Journal says They have been ramping down production of the original PlayStation 4 So it looks like this slimmer ps4 will replace The original ps4 in the lineup and we'll get to meet that on September 7th is the way the rumor goes Are you looking to upgrade? I am not no I know a lot of people are looking at this and saying oh, so Sony's gonna have to play stations And the fact of the matter was ever since they said they were gonna come out with a 4k PlayStation It meant they were gonna have to play stations. This doesn't mean there's gonna be three play stations It's very traditional right for them to come out with a slimmed down version of the PlayStation as far back as the ps2 They've done that so it doesn't surprise me that they would do this at all It's interesting that they want to do it at the same time as the 4k because it Psychologically says well the original PlayStation 4 is no longer available. So if you have that that's the old one now We have the slim one and the 4k one Gotcha. Yeah, I still don't have a I don't have a PlayStation anymore But maybe someday maybe this will be enough. Yeah I mean with a lot of people are looking at this and saying well, wait a minute I'm upset because I bought an original PlayStation 4 two years ago And I don't want to have to replace my console and Sony has promised you won't have to you should still be able to play All of the games that you could on the original PlayStation the original PlayStation They have said should work with PlayStation VR But it's that envy right of like oh, maybe I want to get an upgrade if you don't have a PlayStation though is 4k enough to swing you over. Yeah, that's a very good question. Not for me. I'm still happy with my PC Speaking of which Microsoft announced it has acquired scheduling tool Jenny or Genie and will integrate it into office 365 It launched a year ago and uses natural language processing to interpret email and automatically create calendar invites The existing service will shut down September 1st. Yeah, so they're getting rid of the service That's gonna be said eating things. They took away my sunrise calendar Now they're probably gonna combine this fold in folded into this for the new office 365 Taking all my stuff man, but I like the idea of being able to use this and you and I both know the heartache of trying to schedule a large in meeting with people in various parts of the world Who all have different schedules and the promise of genie is we can just read those emails and come up with Potential schedules and send invites like it's supposed to be that good as AI Well, you know Gmail already kind of does this also So I guess this is kind of Microsoft answering that in a way And being able to integrate that kind of technology as well, but yeah Gmail is pretty good They it doesn't ask to send out invites yet But it can definitely interpret that there are dates and times within an existing email and see if you want to add those To your calendar So this is kind of taking that one one step further and this is supposed to work not just an outlook either It's supposed to work on whatever email service you use to So I'm curious what this ends up being when it's moved into office 365 and Yeah, like you say, I'm a little sad to see it go away I would I would try it today if they weren't going away on September 1st now Not a lot of time. Yeah Netgear is the latest to market a multiple router solution to Wi-Fi coverage the netgear or be system combines one router and one range Extender to provide coverage. They say of up to 4,000 square feet They do it a little differently than say Eero or some of the others where those are mesh networks This is not what it's doing is it has a 2.4 and a 5 gigahertz radio for Wi-Fi like a Wi-Fi router normally does But it also adds a third 5 gigahertz radio that is used for the range extender to communicate directly with the base station And that supposedly allows better optimization So you don't need more than two in most cases the base two pack will cost you $400 And they will add single add-on units if for some reason you do find out you need one and that will eventually be sold for $250 Yeah, not not super cheap. Although. I don't really remember how much some of those other offerings are going for Comparatively speaking, but yeah, it seems like everybody's looking for a solution to this this kind of problem right now Yeah, they're all around 300 400 dollars and it's funny the netgear folks are like Well, the cheap routers these days aren't any better than the router you have So if people are gonna buy a new router anyway, they're probably going to be willing to pay more Because they're looking for an upgrade rather than just replacing the router they have because routers I mean they break sometimes But they're they're pretty long-lasting So places like Eero or Luma is another one that's out there usually are around three or four hundred dollars So so this is the new world of hey, don't buy just one router buy two or three Like the three pack of Luma is $250 and and and we won't you won't have dead spots anymore That's that's the big promise is it now like everyone just decided that that the original routers just like well You know what this is just never gonna be good enough So we're just gonna start adding routers onto the routers because we just can't come up with a solution that fixes all the problems You've got an Eero don't you? Yeah, we do and it works. It works great. Yeah, I've been using mine for a while now and I have noticed fewer problems over time I mentioned this before on the show, but when we first put it up It would need to be rebooted every so often. Yep I'd have to turn my wi-fi off and on every so often because it wouldn't my phone wouldn't pick up on it Yeah, they're a little weird like that, but it has continually upgraded itself and learned Which is supposed to do because it's a mesh network and I I can't think of the last time I had any kind of issue with it You know not that you mentioned it me neither So I guess it's getting better. Well. Yeah, it's kind of weird because you don't know if it really got better Or you're just not accidentally not having those issues Or did you just get used to them? But yeah, I I think the Eero and the Luma are better bargains. They're they're cheaper than this I'm curious to see some tests in the real world of the orbi system Because if the Eero and the Luma would both have fairly good reviews are cheaper. Why would you bother paying more to only get two? And no idea really better. Yeah Reuters reports as sources say Samsung plans to start selling refurbished smartphones as early as next year The phones will come from returns by customers who signed up for one year upgrade programs No other details of the plan were reported though Yeah, Samsung is Realizing what everybody in the phone industry is Lee realizing is it's a commodity market So if we want to keep making money, we need to be able to resell our phones when people trade them in And they're probably still in pretty decent shape. But yeah, people keep upgrading so quickly That's a lot of electronic waste too So I'm kind of glad that they're finding out a solution for for you reusing some of these products Definitely Did you hear that uh, they're looking into making the olympic medals in tokyo in 2020 out of reclaimed smartphones? No, that's cool. At least in part, right? Interesting. Yeah So that that that is an issue as the upgrade cycle has remained pretty fast It slowed down a little bit. That's part of the commoditization of smartphones But it's mostly that most people have phones So you're not getting these scads of people who didn't have a smartphone before suddenly flooding in And samsung has been doing very well selling smartphones of late and they don't want to lose that edge So they're looking at a way to boost the numbers It interesting to me that it took them this long to do it apple started selling refurbished phones quite a long time ago As as did many other manufacturers Would you be disappointed as an olympian to receive a recycled phone medal as opposed to a gold plated probably What is it like nickel or whatever? They're actually making the medals out of well, yeah I mean I I as long as it's still got the same gold on the outside that the current one has Shouldn't it be should be good should be better Can I like how I've read a very inch? Yeah, that'd be good. Can I use it as a wi-fi repeater? Yeah Will it be a range extender for my euro? Yeah What were you gonna say you read something? Oh, it doesn't matter I was just reading an interesting story about how um why photographers take so many pictures of the olympians biting their Their medals and it used to be to prove that it was like But you know gold is actually softer than a lot of the other metals So if you bit a gold medal too hard, you'd actually leave a dent in it But that's how you would prove that it was gold So, um, they're asking them to damage their medals essentially. Yes. Yes Well, thanks to all those who participate on our subreddit You don't damage our show you make it better buy your votes or your submissions Get on over there to dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and join the folks like another jay martin Saucy tech steve io flying spatula. I'm the man 90 cap and kipper teaglass 1976 and more Let us know what you want us to talk about at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines So fastcodesign.com that's fast companies design spin-off has an article from meg miller today about self assembly It focuses on skylar tibets. He's a research scientist in MIT's department of architecture and co-director of the self assembly lab Those of you who follow ted talks very closely have probably seen him before he's done a few ted x-talks And he's been working on self assembly as a concept all the way back to 2011 and before The idea is to develop materials that can assemble themselves Uh, he says a simple set of responsive building blocks energy and interactions that can be designed with Nearly every material and machining process available So he's talked before about 4d printing Which is kind of a buzzword for using 3d printers to print materials that can then grow and change on their own So you print out something flat and then In real in the real world it can turn into A three-dimensional object when you need it to like most of the demos he throws in water. Did you see the table? Yes, yeah, yeah the flat pat furniture So you basically just like give a little touch or pull it up and it snaps right into place No assembly required And a lot of these these technology elements that they're putting together Kind of they put them in this tumbler as you said and and they kind of snap together using a system of magnets And so you just drop in three different pieces roll the tumbler around and eventually the phone kind of puts itself together And this of course takes out some of the human element Though they have been thinking a lot about ways to protect The electronic elements inside of the phones in order to make sure they're not damaged during the process Obviously something that's a a very iterator iterative I did a rod process. Yeah Need huskies for it for sure. Yes Um, but I think it's it's it's cool. I I'm still having a hard time kind of figuring out Like like the flat pat furniture that makes a lot of sense to me The cell phone one doesn't seem to make as much sense to me I'm not really sure why this is exactly a better process. I guess Cutting out people in the long run will will save money and and time perhaps and I guess, you know Time is money. So companies obviously want the process to to take less time and save more money But it I don't know it seems like a not very Effective way of putting together gadgets to to put them in a giant tumbler and then hope all the pieces come together Well, if it were just hope I would a hundred percent agree with you It is varying magnets and they they have demonstrations that show them being done Where I start to get skeptical is there still needs to be some assembly of the pieces like I said It's only three pieces per phone So you are saving some assembly by being able to do this and a lot of Manufacturing installations have tumblers for various reasons. So it might not be that costly to set up But I want they're not self soldering They're not like yeah, and and and the magnets have to be good enough to keep them together So I'm wondering just how much savings you would have What kind of quality these phones would be I I know it's really easy and I know loads of you in our audience Are quick to take potshots at stuff like this Because of these objections and a lot of times it's you're you know, I'm the one pointing out This is just a proof of concept. Yes, they haven't worked out all the kinks to it But it shows that you can eventually do it I I I would feel more confident if this self assembly A laboratory Had come up with any ideas that are at least close to the public over the past several years I think they started their lab in 2013 and still a little early So I don't know what to think part of me says look They're just doing the research to figure these out Of course, they're going to look a little clunky because these are the first prototypes of these kinds of assembly Look at that table like you said earlier that one's something that could get to market soon Give them five to ten years And the concept of self-assembling products boggles the mind because things could even adapt to various locations and be able to have Multiple memories and and reconfigure themselves based on where they are I would like my makeup to self-assemble in the morning. That would be great on your face on my face On my face I think that for me the furniture is really the killer app of this whole idea Because I I think they worked with Ikea on some of the design processes But I love the idea of going to the store buying one of these like a flat pack bed Being able to cart it home really easily and then just you know Touching it in a certain way and it turns into a fully formed You know functional bed that I didn't have to spend hours painstakingly putting together so knowing knowing Having the pieces know where to put themselves would be amazing and even the self-lacing lacing sneakers Which was another example that they gave in the article. That's that's pretty useful If that that's a useful uh case for this kind of technology And I'm sure there's many many others um And uh, but I think big companies will will definitely be interested by the idea of somehow finding ways to to cut corners in the manufacturing process And reducing the number of of human potential error in in the Uh in the process as well Yeah, I don't know. I think we're always out. It definitely has the potential to to Make manufacturing more efficient more cost effective and just plain simpler And the fact that they're working with Marcello Coelho studio means they've got high quality designer Involved on this But it also to me because they have a high quality designer in on it Means they're at the very early stages of these these type of technologies And you need to have them make good demos to get research funding and all of that. I get it But I guess you know what it is I really want this to be a trend right along with internet of things and self-driving cars Like self-assembling electronics self-assembling anything Sounds like an amazing thing that could change so much of what we do It would obviously have impacts both positive and negative on the workforce But it could it could make things work in ways that we never would have imagined them Because we just pull something out of a flat pack and it and it puts itself together self-assembling tents Yeah If you go out backpacking and you don't want to spend a ton of time setting up camp Like that would be great. I would love something like that. I'm trying to think of like assembling tents Refolding it and sticking it back in the bag. It came in perfectly. That would be great I'm trying to think of like really great use cases for this kind of stuff And for me like the the big ticket items like furniture make make a ton of sense Yeah, I'm just that alone And the idea that back in the day We used to have to have these big schematics with all of these steps that you would take to not only put Together your furniture but all kinds of other things and that could just go away And in the future people are like, oh, well, yeah, you just pull it out of the pack and you tap it and then it turns into the thing You want uh That could be a normal thing and yet as excited as I get I start to pull back because There have been a lot of self-assembling prototypes and and we're in that battery technology stage Which is that hey, it looks great in the lab But we have yet to see it hit the actual streets yet And I'm not saying it will stay in the lab the way battery tech seems to have gotten stuck, but Hopefully Let's get to uh instead of a pick of the day I want to point uh some folks to our our own blog here at daily tech news show dot com We have some folks writing for us, uh that do a great job Bringing you entertaining and informative posts outside of the main show the weekly tech views by mike range Comes on saturdays at daily tech news show dot com He says when you want your tech news without all the annoying accuracy Check out weekly tech news, uh, he writes a really funny Take on a summary of all the tech news of the week I find it quite enjoyable having gone through the show every week with the details To get mike's take on it and after you read that keep an eye out for sikani writes column your private driver Uh, there'll be one of those this afternoon about the ride sharing industry told from a person behind the wheel Sikani's been on the show before he is an uber and lift driver. He also drives For ups and and fedex and places like that. I'm not sure which one he drives on so I shouldn't shouldn't save names But he does drive freight delivery and this week. He's talking about the class action settlements With uber among other things so check that out at daily tech news show dot com as well Insider info. I love it. Yeah inside the car info on uh on self-driving so some laughs Some smiles some insider info. It's all at daily tech news show dot com Um a different mike wrote in to make the case for component hd video We were talking about losing the uh audio jack from your phone. How where's your stance on that veronica? I'm I'm bitter I'm I'm a little bitter. I have to say I I will be purchasing a new phone My phone has decided to uh, it's starting to kick the bucket for some reason I'm not really sure what's causing it, but it is slow as all get out and I cannot make it fix itself Um, so I'm I'm in the market for a new phone But I am upset a little bit about these new changes potentially because I love my headphones. I love my existing headphones I don't want to have to buy new headphones. I know they'll probably give us some when you buy the new phone Perhaps but I'm I'm not super happy about it. I don't want an ear dongle Yeah, well and another person wrote in and pointed out several people wrote in and pointed out Even if they give you the phone The headphone if you get an apple you might need a lightning jack And then if you want to use it anywhere else you might need usbc Even if everybody standardized on usbc wouldn't you still have that problem? So that's that's another issue here Whereas everybody uses the headphone jack and the headphone jack works everywhere. It's going to be a pain It's going to be a pain for a little while for sure Meanwhile, we we were talking about that on friday and someone had wrote in saying would you want composite video instead of hdmi? And I sort of changed it in my mind from composite to component video because yes No, I wouldn't want composite, but that's like saying do would you want mono audio instead of your your headphone jack? But component video however I find to be quite satisfactory because it is easier to port around for the same reason I like the headphone jack so back to mike Mike said hdmi is actually a terrible video standard that only works over short distances Has no error correction built into it while this won't apply to most people's home tv setups If you're going to wire ceiling mounted projectors, etc You can very easily run component video hundreds of feet without issue But hdmi is limited to about 50 feet with the best quality casing possible Anything longer than that requires additional equipment like repeaters to achieve a longer run that works reliably There's some great write-ups about hdmi at blue jean cable's website that go into great detail about what's wrong with the hdmi standard He's got a link to hdmi cable information at blue jeans cable, but also he says check out What's the matter with hdmi a great place to get started? I I can't agree with more hdmi is so nice sometimes when it works Yeah, but it's so frustrating when it doesn't Gosh, I've forgotten about blue jeans cable. I love that site. It's great a great resource Yeah, absolutely and and and if you're looking for cables A place to go check out as well So, yeah, thank you to everybody who wrote in I I think we're mostly in agreement. There were A couple of people emailed in saying they like the idea and I've read one of those emails But for the most part people still want the headphone jack Maybe we're all just luddites and we'll be all happy Maybe apple will switch to usbc and eventually we'll all say oh usbc is great. I don't know. Why ever was against it Well, yeah, all that happens eventually But there is that pain period where you're have to everything nothing works together And I feel like we're about to go through that and you keep losing your adapter I have so many adapters, dude. Do you think this is a total side question? I just came up with do you think we'll ever get to a point where we won't need an adapter I'm looking right now at the laptop. I have in front of me which has a Thunderbolt to ethernet adapter on it I know that I have a Thunderbolt hdmi adapter Down there and now I'm thinking I might start needing usbc to headphone jack adapters in the future Do you think we'll ever get I have a power adapter for my own for the magsafe changes. Yes Well, we ever get to that point where everything is like so standard And computers are so commoditized That will have computers that don't need adapters. It's all gonna be wireless. Yeah, it's all gonna be wireless We're not gonna have to worry about any of it soon Gary said about the audio He's like just go bluetooth and a couple other people said that too You know, I didn't I didn't believe it, but ryan switched to to bluetooth headset and he loves it They need to fix and we mentioned this last week They need to fix being able to use your bluetooth headsets easily with more than one device though Yeah, yeah, but yeah if we could get like a really good wireless protocol Without the lag without the interference issues. I'm asking a lot We'll get there. We'll get there. I'm sure we will. How old will we be like 70? I think I'll be 70 too old to enjoy it Yes, exactly But oh what? I remember headphone jacks. Do you remember headphone? That's what it'll sound like. I'll say no, Tom I don't who are you? Uh, thank you Veronica Belmont for joining us at always what you got to tell people about Oh Geez louise. Um, I don't know. 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I think you'll have to wait till after labor day for the sexy stuff to come back up Well, yeah, once those announcements start to come back um September 7th you got ps4 and possibly a an apple announcement if all goes well What if apple went into biotech and one of the first products they do is like like a genetically modified apple That that could also like an actual apple apple Uh-huh, they could uh, I don't know. What would you do with oh, that's like a basically you get your medication like Whatever dose you'd be part of their health kit. Yeah, so like say like I see so you need your Set regimen of pills and whatever that you take you just eat an apple It'll It's using your news on the melon. Are you using the apple apple? What would they call it you can't use macintosh because that's an actual variety right and well and actually they They would have problems with their trademarks if they got into the business of fruit. I believe Because the way they get away with calling the apple mac a mac is because they don't actually do fruit What if they did uh Like the was the was variety. Are you eating an apple was no i'm saying like even if they don't call their apple a macintosh As soon as they start selling apples. Oh, I see macintosh can come and start going Well, what if it was a subsidiary they spun it out into its own there you go. See now you now you're thinking like a corporate lawyer They'll call it orchard Orchard biotech a fully owned subsidiary of apple. Well, did you hear the dropping store? From the name of the apple stores. They're just going to call them apple Not apple store It makes much difference to be honest I'm Is it because Is that a branding it has to be like is that like you don't call it kmart store? I guess mart is built into it. But yeah, but you don't go to apple You go to best buy you don't go best by store So yeah, what they're trying to do is get you to say oh, I go to apple Yeah, but but apple is already a noun for an object No best buy there wasn't a best buy object. Yeah, i'm gonna sit on the best buy. No one said that I'm gonna get in my best. I'm sure you could think of another example like burger king not burger king store Yeah, but again burger king burger king. What was burger king before? Was was there an actual burger king? Perhaps there was Okay, well, no, you're telling me you can't think of an example Of a store that is named after an object without the word store in it I mean like train target. You don't say the target store. You see it. Just say I'm going to target. Thank you bio cow I'm going to apple now Well, it sounds weird because we're used to calling apple the company apple chilies Or perhaps chi-chis So what what is a chi-chi? I think it's uh slang for something It's a celebration of food. It's what it is cracker barrel. Thank you wafalophagus It does sound weird though I mean because you like i'm going to apple I think that means you're going to one infinite loop, right? You're going to the headquarters of apple Not gonna work. It's not gonna work Well, it's already done And it doesn't know I mean it's done, but it's not gonna work the way they want it to work Well, how is it gonna work? Well, it's not gonna work well. Tom. It's not gonna work. I don't know. I well, I'm not convinced that they want you to change I think they just want To make the branding sleeker so they don't have to use the word store and all their stuff I'm gonna core this apple And i'm outside of an apple store. I'm gonna core this out. Yeah, you don't go to apple store.com though You go to apple.com And apple.com and the store's website are all one and the same now That's how they get you tom. I don't know it could could very well be a genius play or this could be the That watershed moment where everything where all of apple's fortunes suddenly go downhill Mark my words has to be either does it yes No, you're right. I'm being a horrible journalist. This is the make or break moment We'll launch them into the stratosphere or not really destroy them. Those are the only two options Your namby pamby waffly. Well, it may not be that bad or it may not be that good. No, take a stand Take a stand. We're at war Be a man Uh, sometimes The it's not waffly It's tasty Well, then maybe they'll call their uh Their high-end like so like best buy has magnolia, which is their high-end like home entertainment They could have apple pie Which could be like a high-end. I don't know like Workshop for stuff, but it's p. I like not yeah, of course. No, I was already I was already there with you It would have to be p. I That's their that's their education. That's the genius bar One of these days I want to take one of those geniuses and actually make him take like a an IQ test See if that Yeah, walk out and beat master both confirming that apple store.com and store.apple.com now just result to apple.com Take one of those geniuses see if they can get into men's uh, and see how many people actually pass and get into men's uh Because if they don't if they don't then I'm gonna say that's see them for false advertising He's not a genius at all. He's just intelligent He's really intelligent. He's not literally a genius your honor Okay, I think uh, we are published. So thank you everyone for watching. I hope you enjoyed the show Hope we passed the audition and We'll see you tomorrow