 are coming to you live from Utah and from Syria. And this is my friend Grace. Actually, she's, are you going by the name Nada now or Grace or both or Grace Seco? What's the name? I think Grace always is there. It's all by the grace. It's all by the grace of God. Yeah. So there is some, some mystical experience I had about the name Nada, which means in Arabic, the morning dew. So I go for now with Nada Grace. So I use my Grace as my last name. Oh my gosh. Well, I just want to introduce everyone to Grace because Grace and I have known each other for years and we have had so much fun together. Initially, Grace and I were talking over Skype. I believe it was at the beginning when you were in Syria. And I was in, I think probably Cincinnati. And I could even hear when the war was going on, I could even hear some of the explosives in the background. So we started off there. And then there was a time when Grace went to Dubai and lived with her brother and we had some beautiful chats there as well. And then it was a big deal to, to immigrate to Canada. And that was a huge leap of faith. And then now you've got your Canadian residency and yet you're on a healing mission, going to Europe and then back to Syria where you are now and then off to Dubai. So thank you for coming on live. And I just am so grateful for you as a friend. You've, you've been with me for a long time. We've known each other. Thank you so much, David. Like, thank you for visiting my dreams. You often visit, visit my dreams. And it's so joyful. Like, I really feel this connection. Like, thank you so much, David. Like now, now I am in Syria. And as I was saying you just few minutes ago, I came here really, just because I want to remember this initial joy of when I first met you and Janie. It was all this journey. It's all coming back to me now. All this like, the initial love. This is what in the Bible say, come back to the initial love. The primary, I think it says this something like this in English, to the primary, the initial love. So I'm coming back. It feels like somehow this immigration journey has taken me to other avenues. It was somehow confusing. I needed to remember. Yeah, that's it. Well, it's beautiful, you know, that you're in Syria because you're, there's so much history related to religion and spirituality related to so many things. So I guess you were born in Syria and then you were raised and your father was a Christian minister, right? He was a Christian minister. So, so that's kind of interesting being growing up in Syria with a father as a Christian minister. And then you've gone through so many healings around religion and around spirituality. And we were just talking briefly a little bit earlier and you were, you know, you still said there was still some residues about like a guilt or a shame around believing something or doing some spiritual journey or a religion that was outside of your traditional Christian upbringing, your programming. And so it's so beautiful because Grace said she's now she's back in Syria. She's visited her dad who was not well and she was praying to Jesus. What about all this, this crucifixion and blood and all this bloody mess? And what did Jesus tell you? What did the voice tell you? Yeah, so I was having this conversation and like I was saying like there is still some charge whenever I remember that because my father had really this, there was some kind of seriousness when he wants us to believe in the sacrifice and the blood and I was reading that deep prayer when I said, Jesus, what about this blood thing? He said, don't project that bloody thing on me because it was so nice. And I said, wow, because there is still the belief in me that there is the need for like something for revenge, like there is still belief in attack thoughts, something that this kind of the force, something that needs to attack the violence, even if I want to call it karma, like even if as long as something needs to be paid. So it felt like, wow. And they said, wow, it looks like I have a huge mind that I projected the whole thing on the church. I mean, on the whole, like on my whole life story. And I said, wow, please show me more and more of these answers, like show me more. Yeah. Oh, I have to say, I have known you for years. And I always have appreciated that you just wear your heart on your sleeve. You just you are so authentic. You just learned more and more that that we could have these heart to heart conversations and you could trust. And you just began to just open up and share all your thoughts, which which I think is still really rare in this world in terms of the way this world is, you know, for somebody to develop trust quickly enough to be able to just pour it all out and lay it on the table. I would say that that really has accelerated your spiritual journey in an amazing way. And because when we would talk, we would talk at any time of the day or night, obviously, there was a big time difference between the United States and Syria. And then there was a lot going on. And in your mind, and yet you were very open about everything. And then when the opportunity came, we talked many times when you were in Syria, but when the opportunity came to go to Dubai, you did feel intuitively like this was like some kind of a major step to go and stay with your brother. And I remember, too, when I took a trip from Sweden, from Stockholm, I stopped in Dubai and there and Grace made me at the airport. We set the world record for the longest hug in an airport, because we just had been talking to each other for so long. And we really hadn't met in person. And Nina was there with me, who also was in Canada, was a dear friend of you when you arrived in Canada. But maybe you can just tell us, what was that first step? What did that really feel like for you, leaving Syria and being able to go to Dubai as a first step in this amazing journey that you've had? What was that like for you? Thank you, David, for this question. It's really very helpful to remember my journey. Like, if I really want to go back to the actual first step, it's about how the miracle of meeting you and the course in miracles. This is what I call the first step. I feel the second step for me to take the leap of really taking the practical and just to trust that I am already of actually going and following my heart about my heart goal. I didn't really want to be in this country since I was a child. So for me, when the war was there, it felt for me as if something from my deep inside was calling for, please hear me, something like somehow I need to get out of here. So it was really interesting that the war was the way I felt like as if like collectively there was something calling, I want to get out and it was a war. And because of that, I was being able to be sponsored by my brother and I went to Dubai. He sponsored me actually. That's why there was all this releasing all that unworthiness that I am finally worthy of having my prayer answered because I could feel that it was a part of my journey to just break from that belief in limitations because there was a lot of belief in limitation feeling stuck in this closed up society and the church community and this kind of conservative country. And I knew there is something I needed to express. And that's why maybe you remember whenever I would speak with anyone online, can you help me get out of here? Can you help me? I felt like I was obsessed. That's why when the answer was like, okay, it's time now. It's time to leave. It was of course, after the war, it was in 2013. And the journey was like a kind of dangerous to go just to leave, like to take the taxi from our home to the Damascus, then to the airport. And we were told that just be careful, like there are some kind of those, I think you call them the Snippers who just shoot people like randomly. So yeah, so they shoot the cars. And so we have to like, we were told that the car has to be faster than usual just because this is the way to avoid any random shooting. So of course, there was all this charge around, okay, I want to leave from that dangerous place, that place that represent something limited. And there was a kind of releasing, releasing and healing and forgiving unworthy. And with that, I said, okay, I knew I was gonna come back, but with to come back with a way that I will forgive, forgive this place and see it differently, that it's in my mind. So yeah. That's you. Yeah. Yeah, you went full circle from, I need to get out. And then we talked a while back where you were in Spain and you were saying, I think I need to go back in. I need to clear everything up in my mind. It was mainly just for healing and forgiveness. I need to go back there. I need to go back to Dubai to visit my brother and clear everything there. Because it's such a journey of emptying the mind of all of the thoughts and beliefs and the mind is so deep. And it does take a lot of determination. I mean, I know a lot of people from traveling around the world in 44 countries, but I have to say that, you know, your story of starting like in seemingly surrounded in a war with bombs going off and feeling I have to get out of here, then intuitively praying and knowing that your next step was with your brother and in Dubai. And then that was a miraculous time we could even meet you and I and Nina there at the airport. I have to tell everyone to she brought me gifts. And she dressed me up like a chic. Oh my God. Here I am as a Christian minister. I said, oh my God, this is, I think we'll just do a photo up with you and I, but we had so much fun. And that was just amazing. I think I have never looked like a chic before, but you did it. You transformed me. So tell me what happened? You are mentioning this. David, I just wanted to say it's funny. You are mentioning this because the other day I was looking through the pictures and I saw that pictures of us in Dubai and I said, oh, I want to send those to David and I want to ask him if it's okay. We, we post a few of them, but I'm going to send them to you. All right. We have so much fun. We do have fun. Now, when you, when we've had our talks, we've talked about everything like it's all there's practicalities like you're going to Dubai with your brother. And then when you were there, you were still continuing your inward journey, but there was things around finances and, and things that, you know, those are just the steps everyone takes to start to unwind from this ego belief in lack and financial dependency, people pleasing, doing things, possibly time, sometimes with relatives, we do things because we think that's the, the good thing. We should do this. We should do that. So you've kind of taken the rapid journey and you've just had to face thoughts around finances, family, sexuality, you know, anybody who's going into this should know that when you work with Jesus and, and of course the miracles and the depth of it, you're going to have to face everything that you believe in. And wow, yours, yours could be made into a movie of the week, I think, or maybe a whole series. Grace comes to see the nada of the world and the everythingness of, of love. That's amazing. Thank you, David. Yes. I always tell people that I feel my journey is, is a course in miracles. I feel it's a course in miracles, like a path. When I say a course, it's like a path. So if I really look back and see all this, I mean, thank you for helping me recap all this and just to look back and see count the blessings and just not to take all of that for like, not to dismiss, I mean, like there is a lot of challenges that were coming my way and just unwinding from that belief of like, you know, my belonging, like being the good sister, like when my brother asked me for financial support, like I can't say no, I have to prove I am the good sister, like I have to do something somehow like, somehow like the family obligation, like, because we have the family ties, it's very serious here, here in, in the Middle East. And just also at the same time, seeing that, like, forgiving a lot around gender, like my, my brother is the one who actually has the, the final word, and he is the one who sponsored me. He has the, he is the one who actually has the money. And I have to show him my gratitude by giving him what he needs. And all this didn't feel really, it's, it was just a way, a way to say, yeah, yes, it's like to please just feel true. And yeah, I still feel that it's charging my body while I say it, because just in two days, I'm going to Dubai to clear out everything there. Yeah, yeah. Good timing. Two days away from that healing trip too. And just because a few days ago I was with him on the phone and there was a lot of rage coming out of me, just like, enough is enough, like, and I felt like I told him, I feel I am doing my divorce paper, like I'm divorcing you psychologically, because there is a lot, like dependency, like, I need, I need to divorce you. I feel it's not really about any money as much as about like something like a umbilical, they call it cord, the cord, like I need to cut something. Yeah, you've had a sibling, a belief cord holding in your mind the sibling self-concept. And now you're, you're doing this for the whole universe. You're, you're healing all family constellations. You're, you're healing all co-dependencies with your willingness in your mind to just follow your intuition and follow the spirit. The other thing I remember too is when you got to Dubai, you were there for some time and then that feeling again, when we would talk, you would say, I need to get out. I need to get out. And so I remember us praying and praying and praying. And I talked to different, I talked to Emily, I talked to Jason, Kirsten, Francis, and I'd just say, yeah, you know, I just feel Grace's heart. She's just, she's praying and praying and praying and praying. And I, and she really needs a country. She just needs a country to go to. So I was like, well, let's see, what is one of these, the most open-minded countries I can think of out of all the countries in the world. And I thought, Canada, Canada is, is a possibility. And then, and then Grace was saying, well, yeah, they, we, they do accept refugees. And that's quite amazing about Canada, how they accept refugees, one of the most open countries I've ever seen in terms of the world. And then the more we prayed was like, well, you have to have a sponsor. And we're just a band of mystics. We live just a simple life. So we don't have like big bank accounts and, and lots of worldly symbols, you know, lots of cars and houses and bank accounts. But we did have a nonprofit up in, in Canada. It was called Living Miracles Canada. So I just started, it was one of those far out ideas that were felt Jesus was saying, yeah, you've got a nonprofit now, use that to get grace over to the Canada. And I'm like, really, wow, that's, I never thought of that. I've never done anything like that before in my life, before then or since. It was the, it was just a beautiful prayer, what Jesus is going to get grace out of the Middle East somehow. And, and there was a big synergy. And I know there was lots of calls. And I know Jason and Emily had lots and lots of calls with you. And I've had an occasional call. But tell us about that. That was like a giant leap to because for a lot of people in the Middle East, you know, they, they would like to come to, to another country. And even I meet people in South America who have said in Argentina, Colombia, Venezuela, we would love to come to the United States or Canada. And so tell us how that, that happened for you. You know, you just had to take every step almost like a, like you were a secret agent and you were on a possible mission, but you had to really follow your heart and keep your prayers and determination going. Oh my God, David, that I feel that was the miracle of my life. That was the practical. I mean, when, when I speak about practicality, I feel like, because going to Dubai was a step, but I didn't feel really, I was still in that region. I wanted really to be in a, in a, as I said, in a, in a free play, free place in terms of like, you know, what I mean from all the sides of like releasing and expressing and feeling that I can even be closer to you. The thing is I remember that night I was really in tears praying that I need to pray for, please help, like just practically help me out of here. Again, like help me out of here. The same prayer I prayed in Syria. I prayed in Dubai. I spent the whole night. I said, this time I want to ask for something practical again, because usually I only like pray for peace and love. But that night I spent the whole night, I need to get out of here. I need a miracle. And when I woke up, I saw a video on, on Facebook by someone posting that Justin Trudeau welcoming Syrian, Syrian refugees. And I said, oh my God, it might be Canada. Then it was when I contacted you and you said, yeah. And, and you called Jason right away. We were on the call when you called Jason. And Jason, like he jumped like in with us. And he said, oh, we are going to Canada, me and Emily, just in one month. And it might be very, uh, synchronic that they will be there. I didn't even imagine actually that you have a place in Canada. I thought the best thing I thought is that I will go to, you will send me invitation to United States. Then I will cross the borders to Canada. But I didn't believe that you can sponsor me to go to Canada. So, so when you said, yeah, you have physical, you have a actually nonprofit in Canada, I said, what? And Jason, he said, nobody is there actually, but now me and Emily, we are going there next month. And this is what happened. They went to Canada. Just when we were speaking about that, they went the following month, it was in January. They went there. They worked on my application. We finished everything in one month. We sent out the application in February. Within six months, I was in Canada, which was like, and I received the permanent residence in the airport. Like they handed me the paper. It was like a miracle. Like I said, like it was really like, and I remember Jason, he told me, he said, we can do this on our own. He said, it's very like the process, the procedure. It's not something they have gone through before. He said, maybe you can help us to link us with someone like immigration office or something. And I didn't know anyone myself then. So I called immigration office in Dubai. I asked them if they know someone. And then they told us they work with someone in Canada. She is part-time immigration consultant. And we contacted her. We were supposed to contact her through the office in Dubai. But then after Jason and Emily, they contacted her. It was just like the spirit flowing. And she was like, she was only five minutes away from Jason and Emily in Vancouver in Canada. And it was very, very smooth. And Jason was telling me, he said, this is all like going very flowing. And they met her and she said she doesn't even need money. She does this as a donation, like part-time she does this because it's her passion to help. So we ended up working with her and she was just reviewing, helping us with the application on their side and my side. And yeah, the whole thing was, yeah, I ended up in six months. That's a miracle. It is such a miracle. These are all just beautiful symbols. These are, of course, the miracle students who think you just sit in your room and you just do your lesson and you don't go out and you don't do anything. And everything, even in terms of the world, is just symbols of our willingness. But you have really had a deep prayer. There's actually a movie called The Island. And at one point in the movie, it's pretty late in the movie, the two main characters fall off of the top of a skyscraper and they go down, down, and everything's crashing and falling in the ground and they fall into a net. And basically, there's a man there who goes, Jesus loves you. And then a few seconds later, he goes, I know Jesus loves you. Well, Jesus is really taking care of grace here. I'll say that much. Jesus has been watching you. Now, I want to shift a little bit because I know I remember you picked up the guitar and you started practicing and you learned the guitar and you have a beautiful voice. And that's an example of the spirit coming through you because even when you got to Canada, that was something that the spirit used through you. I mean, there's a lot of refugees coming in there. There's a lot of people from Syria. It's a whole new world. It's a whole new life. They're frightened. They're disoriented. They don't know how they're going to survive. And you show up with your guitar and these beautiful love songs and songs that came through you. So tell me a little bit about the guitar and the songs. How did that get activated in you? I just want to say that the guitar was my mighty companion. It got you through a lot. Actually, I became much better guitarist in Canada because I spent much more time, a lot of time, especially when there was all those waves of going through nowhere and not knowing what to do. It was just holding my guitar and playing the music and just putting myself out there, showing up, letting people know that I would love to share this music. So I was actually invited a few times to an event, so a few events in Canada, in Vancouver. I performed in a few of them. They were fundraising for Syrian refugees. Some of them, they were just like humanitarian. But a few of them actually I started as for those who were for Syrian refugees. But it was also about, you know, it's not just about the for Syrian. There it was more about sharing the joy and the love. It's not just about the seriousness of the war. So that's why I wanted to bring this joy and sharing from my story, sharing the joy and the love. And also sometimes I performed as hand drummer because I discovered I am very great hand drummer in Canada. It was flowing through me and some people thought that I be, yeah, I didn't even know that before landing in Canada that I am great at drumming. And people would tell me that you become like a challenger when you drum. And I would just joke and I say I feel like drum it away, like just drum it. And just like guitar and hand drummer, I would like also I was invited to go to perform in a church and churches, I mean more than one church and restaurants. And yeah, I feel, I feel it was all, yeah, part of just remembering the joy, because there was a lot of times that I would go off track, you know, remember those times. Like sometimes I would even reach out to see what's not the hell I'm doing here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was music, very helpful. Oh, that's beautiful. You were, you've always been very transparent, I'm sure, in the music and the drumming, just in your conversations with me. And then, so you have your, your residency now in Canada, you really hung in there and went through lots of things, relationships and all kinds of the healing in Canada. Then you went over to, to with Jenny and Barrett there. And that sounded like I was watching all the Facebook pictures and seeing you on some calls on Saturdays, you were watching my movies and sitting there waving and tucked in a nice little couch and watching. But, but that was a pretty big healing again for you, because I think in some ways, you kind of had, had seen me and Jenny is like your, your spiritual dad and mother. So you even were transparent and said that to me on the phone. It's like, now I'm going through a healing of, of, of letting go, letting down my spiritual mom and dad. I had to go through the biological family, mom, dad, brother, and then even, you know, with spiritual, we could just say advisors or friends or whatever. Jesus is really just teaching us that we're all the same. We're all the same one. We're all equals. Nobody's ahead. Nobody's behind. We're all just the love. That's what he's trying to teach us. But tell us about that. How did that go? Because I remember you called me when you were out on the streets and you, you said, oh my God, I, I got kicked out. Your worst nightmare kicked out of a spiritual community. But, but, but then we got, you know, right away, you got to talk to Jenny and it all just, it just turns into love, a big loving experience with everything. Yeah, it's, it's, it's funny that we are exposing this and just like releasing all the seriousness, seriousness around it, because it's really a joke. When I, when I look how I, when I look all the reflections and how my, I was actually just to summarize, like during my stay in Spain, I was like a little child kicking and fighting for three months. For three months. Just like to summarize. I ended up actually writing a song and sending it to Jenny and to the community there, which summarized like my journey as, as an answer from the spirit who says to me, it's all yours. And in the, in the song, I say, it's all your perception. There is no deception. It's all deception. Sorry. It's all your perception. There is no exception. It's all deception of the mind. So this is how what I say in the song. And then I say, my child, no need to hide. My child, no need to bite. So because I, and I told Jenny at one point, David told me this words when I was new in Canada. And it was really tough when I heard this, what I, like, don't bite the hands that feed you. And there was still charge around what this means. And, and, and I knew that even though you explained to me, you were talking about the spirit is the hand that feeds us. We were not talking about people. So since there was still charge in me around like believing that like somehow there is something that I was still releasing about why this happened or why David said that, why living miracles did that as my sponsors. So Jenny kept repeating to the, like, whenever I would kick and bite, Jenny says, don't bite the hand that she kept giving it back to you. Oh my God, it's back again in Spain. So actually, I think she kept repeating it until I get it. Oh, that's the way the word until there was no charge around it. I really started to feel the love about this. Okay, it's all because there is there is there was still desire for war in me. It was clear that there is the warrior in me who wants to kick to kick and like it was, it felt like somehow sometimes it felt like it very hard for me just to just to allow the spirit and not to defend. Yeah, oh my God, like, yeah. And that's why at the end by the end of the like my state, I had to leave Spain anyway, because I couldn't stay more than three months as a Canadian tourist. So there was there was a sense of because I have my own trauma around like abandonment and rejection. So I was still working through it. And by the time of my, like by the time of me leaving there, all that was flooded flooded in me, there was panic around feeling now I am moving and somehow feeling that they are kicking me out. Now they are changing, there is something. So it felt like I was actually I was conspiracing to escape before I have to leave. So I just I wanted to leave before I leave. So somehow, and realistically, Jenny could feel that I was not really with them anymore with this in the spirit. Because in my mind, I really was trying to escape. I was trying to do things that just to not to face something in my mind. Then she told me, maybe it's time to leave. I didn't want to hear that I wanted to leave before I hear that. So it felt like I had also to be to face the belief in rejection. So, okay, oh, Jenny rejected me or the community rejected me when actually I was just facing all this belief in my mind that I was projecting on I wanted people to tell me that so I wanted Jenny to tell me that so I can see what's really in my mind. So, yeah, we are still talking to me and Jenny, she's still supporting me. She's still like, yeah, my, my, I call her my angel. Yeah, yeah. That's so beautiful, because I think anybody who goes through the transformation in the mind training knows that it's about reclaiming the power of your mind, reclaiming the power of being aware of the power of your thoughts and the power of prayer. And so you're just this is like a movie of the week, you've gone from like, from having this passion and this intensity and living in Syria, it's just kind of like you've kind of had this spiritual warrior kind of concept. And then little by little, Jesus is using the passion that you have and the prayer and the determination, and he's washing away everything. So now it's, it's not a grace. You're, you're, you're morphing into not a grace, you know, Buddha had to become from Siddhartha to the Buddha. And Jesus had to go from Jesus of Nazareth to Jesus Christ. Not a last name. That's just a state of mind. Christ is a state of mind of one with God. I and the father are one. So it's beautiful that your journey is, has all the passion and strength and determination that you need to go on this journey to God. But also you're getting softer. The worn edges are going out. You know, you can see now that that was just when at the very end there in Spain, it was more like, no, don't you can't tell me to leave. I'll leave first before you tell me to leave to prevent rejection. But, but in the end it's, you're just getting rinsed free of this betrayal, rejection, belief. Yeah, that's all that's really happening. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's not like, it's not like a race who's going to say go first. Yeah. And thank you. Thank you, David. Like, yeah, also when you say it's something about the spiritual warrior, there is something it's helpful to look at this fire. Like, I feel sometimes there is fire in me. It's good to see this as passion that I can use for the spirit. Because sometimes I really, I would feel like, like bombarded by doubts about why, why even I'm staying there. Like what, like, I would even wonder, I tell, like, I expect Janey to kick. I actually wanted, I expected her to kick me out way before. So, but whenever I tell him, I mean, I should leave. It's not my place here. She looks, she looks at me and she see, she say, I see, I see you, I see there is a potential here. So I know that she believed in me. And maybe that's why I wanted to try to fight more to see how far she would be. Like a teenager. You're like, a teenager testing how far can I go? Yeah, but it's really funny to see all this believe surfacing to that. Like it was somehow I was dealing with a lot of shame to see all that teenager in me, which maybe because I never felt I expressed this in my life here in Syria. I was always feeling like restricted and constrain. Like, yeah, it's like something as if like I was like, when there is the expression of like, like feeling inside the cage, like when the animal is inside the cage, and suddenly they find someone who can they want just to fight someone. And this is the desire for fight. It just came flooding, flooding, flooding. And now I can't see more. Okay, do I need to fight any like this? Or can I just, as you said, I can use like, there is something about this passion that I can actually offer the spirit. Yeah, it's fire. Yeah, I think it's, I think you you've got so much light to shine and so much to give to the world. And of course, since we've talked for so many years, you've told me all your things with relationships and all the things and what you want and this and this, but it's been so beautiful because I think it's just now after all this after you go to Dubai, and you have this forgiveness with your brother, then I think it's just that Jesus has been preparing with the Holy Spirit for all these years, just the right partner for you that it, he's got to be just the perfect partner for you and and knew that you had to go through all this just before you get partnered up in a way that will bring a huge blessing to the whole world, to the whole universe. And I think that's the thing, you know, Holy relationship, it doesn't have a beginning and doesn't have an ending. It's forever kind of relationship because there's so much love in the heart. But Jesus always knows what will he can bring to us that will really let us shine, that will bring all that equality out, that will bring all that strength and gentleness and respect and reverence. And and now I think you've gone through so much healing through all these things that that's I think the next thing coming for you is going to be some kind of a relationship, a partnership where you will flower and bloom and you're send your fragrance out to the whole world because you love you because I could really feel that there is all thank you for mentioning this. I love how you are progressing through this because I could feel there is that all this fear of intimacy like underneath all of this like fight and flight and all this things there was all this fear of love. I could feel that this is ultimately even when just getting closer to someone, all these things that and I know that all this you know when I would share with you about even my confusion around my sexuality, like my sexual orientation and all these things like questioning like even I even feel I don't even need a label like straight bisexual lesbian. I don't even want now to have this labels just okay whatever opens my heart load whether it's man, woman I don't want to have the gender thing and maybe I don't know but when you mention that I can't feel my heart is opening maybe it's time I'm ready yeah because like now at this age like I am 43 and I have never allowed myself intimacy not even a single relationship. I was always in this survival mode just wanting to get out of Syria then get out of Dubai then going to Canada but I'm still feeling I am like in my twenties in this the feeling of like as you said the teenager like I wanna I don't even understand age I don't even understand what is that I feel like I'm still yeah just ready to play yeah well that is your prayer right there you just said it you know the prayer is Lord bring me a relationship that will open my heart and that's it period you don't have to put into preferences and all the I would prefer this and this because that's how the world operates you know it's they people do dating and relationships like they do when they're going to a grocery store and they're checking out the ingredients and and they prefer this and oh it's too much cholesterol and too much fat and but that's not the way the healing works when you just say here I am Lord and bring me the relationship that will allow me to feel true intimacy with you with God with my brothers my sisters bring it to me and you know what's best for me so the rest was just a washing away all that was a prelude yeah and like just a few days ago I was having this prayer with Jesus like until I can't even like until I receive this inner relationship with Jesus I don't want I don't even know how to be in the relationship like this inner intimacy this is what is my heart desire and I feel it's all happening and yeah it's it's gonna be only reflection when that person is there but and I know that my desire is to have this intimacy as ongoing experience yeah this connectedness yeah yeah yeah yeah it's beautiful well thank you so much for coming on today I know your light I've always thought you had this huge light and now today we both joined together for the glory of God to shine our light for the whole universe and hopefully those who are watching where they watch the replay they can take the feel the love here and the transparency and the heart to heart connection because this is a holy relationship and this is what we have to offer for the whole world so thank you thank you so much thank you Dave I just want to say David thank you thank you thank you for extracting the joy and the love in me all the time I love you so much thank you for for existing that Jesus I think is extracting us from this world and so I got I got to play my part and you got to play your part too yes okay thank you any blessings