 Namunaka waวaktitwa yadi yand tea tizia mwenakisha brew bloodna insukafilia Dawarake handicap of the day yadaa Bless Fuji maf venirue w realizes kufretitza ke Information echo ni datani ni ita koni gej na리owers hola Allah solution Hildaわ TVI So it's about time we get to know Bandraise and now we want to know like where did you fall in love with the camera when and how and why? Umm, it all kind of happened by accident actually No accidentally Ya, those one time I was working on a project with some friends I used to be a dancer before this A dancer? Wow So we were working on a project then there was a friend of mine who had just gotten like a new phone and she would be shooting with it all the time like during the breaks on you at practice So I'd like ask for a phone and she was like at the time I didn't have one so just started it started out from there then it developed into something I grew to love more and more and here we are today and here we are so when they discovered that wow okay I think I really feel this thing did you undergo any kind of training did you go teach yourself or you just what did you do um it was mostly self-taught because like um when I when I actually started out shooting on my own uh I just started like a small LG camera phone um then after about a year about about a year after I started um I was called up for for some training by Canon it was a week long workshop oh by Canon wow did they give you a camera afterwards yeah actually yes oh wow yeah so um that was when I got my first camera and then from then on it was self-taught so that's the only period of training that I've ever gone through okay considering you kind of bumped into this passion or stumbled upon it accidentally so what type of photography would you or how would you describe the kind of photography that you do especially I can see your name is the frostographer it does it have something to do with african culture or something what what is it what would you how would you define you for your picture um most I like to mostly work with people so a lot of the time I find myself doing portraits um as time has gone on I've found myself moving more towards like fashion photography and editorial work editorial work is like work that's to be posted in magazines and stuff so you know creating sets and uh photographing those sets like people in those sets so that's that's pretty much the best way I can describe it's a portrait photography like that's the broader definition of it okay now that you're not more of nature you're more of human what is it about your human bodies that intrigues you as a photographer or the human bird the human bird yeah human body think that's that's that's the best way to put it uh I think it's it's more so the the idea when when you think of photography it's it's it's a very short tiny moment captured and it you're supposed to convey a lot of things in that and I feel like humans generally convey a lot of different emotions and can do that like in a very short span of time so being able to capture those little moments of emotion that's really what drives me in that direction I like that you've talked about the idea of emotion because I was about to ask you what what is it what would you define as a good picture like if it was just to throw a sample of pictures in in your face what would what would be some of the qualities that you look for before you say okay now this is a good picture uh I mean there are obviously technical aspects that you can talk about if you ask a lot of photographers they tell you like you have to follow the rule of thirds which is something that not many people would understand like there's all those technical aspects which make a photo technically good but then beyond that you have to you have to think about no I want for for the first choreographed specific not in a very general sense yeah so there's that then beyond that you have you have to think of what what it is that you want to make the person who's viewing that feel what what what emotion is it that that you want the people to you know get from that photo oh how you want the person who's viewing to feel yeah because as much as you you're showing how the person in the photo is feeling there's a certain way you want the person who's viewing the photo to feel wow so you put all this in one yeah oh that must be interesting I can see when your instagram page is here and I can see reciprocity reciprocity yeah what's that about uh that just means giving what you get so like um it's it's it's something that I live by whatever whatever it is that I I feel I receive from people is what I would want to give back to people so you give good vibes such can get good vibes exactly so that's what you strive for generally in life I can see your page is running through the screen and I can see a few images here I can see a few pictures can we stop at that one there this one here of the lady with the the Beyonce such a bloody action going on to that one yes yes tell me about this one and who is this okay so this is this is my friend her name is Michelle Galeche um very good friend of mine she she called me up and told me that she was working on those flower crowns and wanted to shoot uh to have a shoot around that where did she get golden flowers um what she painted the roses what how the what what I don't know if she wants me to reveal that like trade secrets okay but yeah so she she made all those flowers all all that by hand um then we just she just called me up and we should we shot this yeah so let's talk about um uh some celebrities or who inspires you when it comes to this photography industry here in Kenya does anybody in particular capture your attention is there any photographer that you appreciate that you think he's like yeah yeah this guy does his thing well yeah there are quite a few I can't say the the photography industry is as old as yeah many other industries in the way that it is it exists now but there are definitely a lot of people who who inspire me one for example is a name that I think comes up a lot in these conversations is Mutua Madeka wow even though he doesn't um his his style of photography and the way he presents his work isn't doesn't align itself with mine he's definitely very inspiring the way that he goes about his work Mutua Madeka yeah the consistent quality that he delivers and just generally how he carries himself there is uh Sara Waeswa there is and you know that we've done your research clearly okay you have to you have to and you're getting into into a certain space you have to know the people who came before you and then beyond the people who came before me there are people who I have who I maybe started out with and have come to work with as I've grown there's my very good friend Onyango Diambu he's actually the person that I started shooting with so he's my with him it's more of you know a friendly competition he like we keep each other on our toes so that's the kind of you keep each other in check yeah definitely so that's the kind of inspiration that I draw from him uh huh and there are a lot of other names like sure I can't mention all of them like right now well at least we are glad that you know of you you know because people you know as people tend to not know or say no buddhismism they're just there by themselves or whatever but anyway let's talk about um your journey now um what are some of the challenges that you faced while you were doing this considering um you haven't studied for it rather like itself to so what are some of the challenges do you have any clashes with people who have trained um or what happened um I think one of the main things that becomes a challenge is is for the most part um just access to different things like sometimes you would need uh certain equipment to do a certain project but you can't always access it directly you have to go through this channel and that channel this channel and it becomes a bit of a problem and um another thing is being able to navigate that terrain as a business because it's it's it there's there's there's not really too much of a blueprint for that so you kind of just what do you mean what what does blueprint mean what does that mean you know when when when when somebody talks about going into banking it's already established you know what it is that you need to oh it's an established industry like even okay so you know what you need to do when you're getting into it and you know where you need to go you know what you need to learn but then with photography you kind of like learn the craft and for a lot of people that I know uh in Kenya at least or let me say Nairobi a lot of them are self-taught so you already have to go through the the the challenges of learning the craft on your own and then now you have to deal with figuring out the business if you need to figure out how to how to price your work how to charge what how to approach how do you price exactly so I'm asking so how do you price like now okay if for example someone tells me that I taught myself this uh but I'm going to charge you maybe 50 000 um what kind of backlash do you get like I would like to know how do you price if you've taught yourself it's it's for the most part it varies depending on what what what work you do that's on a on a broader scale personally um I have to think about the time that I'm putting into the project uh whether it's it's a month because certain projects need what's the bias to the outdo and the indoor which is very annoying with you photographers just being what is what is with the shift in price like come on you know when you're shooting indoor a lot of people don't have access to their own studios so when you're shooting indoor and say you're shooting at somebody's studio you have to you have to think of what you're going to pay that person to use that space for a certain amount of time so that would ordinarily you know raise the price up oh yeah when you're shooting out to do a certain there are certain places where you can go and shoot for free certain places will charge you yeah and in Kenya particularly it it's it's it's such a hassle to be a photographer because because there are not very many places that would allow you you have access to yeah you like the moment you pull out you pull out your camera everybody is just on edge they're like so it you have there's there's there's a there's a lot to think about when you're when you're pricing your work and they feel like not not very many why well of follow up I want you to go back to the place where the uh where you said that uh there's some places you'll remove your camera and like all hell will break loose like really like no no no no even in media houses and what have you have seen that challenge happening so how does that interfere with your work what if that's the only place you can do that particular should but how does how do you cope man um I don't know I think it's it's it's it's just you have to you have to be adaptable you have to understand that are you sneaky do you sneak around do you like I don't think I can see that on camera but um you you you just have to be adaptable you have to understand that not not not every place and not every one will grant you the access that you need and that's okay so you have to you have to just figure out ways to to find look like for example if more friendly or friendlier locations like if you can't break the rules man you know yeah so find friendlier locations or even create your own you know because some yeah oh create your own ah that's a tradition yeah sometimes it's it's completely improvisation like the the the photo that you just showed with michelle yes um what what we did for that setup we just got a sheet of fabric put it up on a hanging line put some yeah some weights to just support to make sure that it's down on the ground and it's not moving and we shot there hey it looks so fabulously okay clearly the photographer skill is is something worth noting okay look tell me about the technique you've used for this particular picture because I can see mostly it was about the the the outfit mostly yeah partly because because uh I think a lot of the artist really just came out you know dressed ordinarily then blicky billo was like okay I'm going to wow you guys so I really wanted to show off the outfit and besides that like the stance that he has I don't know I don't think you can see it too clearly like I don't know about the quality of the display but uh nini yeah that was that was what I had in mind for that okay so let's move on to the next picture whether it's a it's an interesting picture at least I could see the outfit the next oh the next one is still kind of about that okay let me just say what I think it looks like it looks like um it's about the jewelry yeah am I correct yeah okay so do you market for people the jewelry is that business their clothes and stuff well yeah it depends on what I'm approached for but it's uh like I said earlier a lot of the work that I've come to do now is fashion related so yeah this wasn't actually like a paid shoot it was just a shoot I had with with some friends so yeah I thought the jewelry on her looked really nice so I tried to figure out a way to you know show it off oh you tried to figure out to show it off okay it appears you do appreciate a lot of girls as well because I can see there's another one here do you have a bias for ladies oh what's happening what what what does this mean is that a yes is that a yes no this is uh this is uh nini that was omari I was shooting for there's a brand called bongosa I'm actually wearing their jacket right now okay uh then this was also another shoot for bongosa uh this was another shoot with this uh a friend of mine um so yeah a lot of times I find myself working with with with my friends or when when I'm not doing paid shoots yeah I find myself uh working with a lot of a lot of uh friends that I've made on the on my way as I've been building myself up as a photographer so yeah I like the fact that you've mentioned that uh the friends that you've made along the way how do you keep your your clients coming back um as far as that you have to make sure that there are certain there are certain things you have to you have to consider certain things you have to make sure that your work is quality for one two you have to make sure that uh you're you're reliable when you come up with a timeline you stick to that timeline if you say we're going to shoot on this day for this for this much time you shoot for that say you will deliver in this much time make sure you stick to all of those and uh also you have to honor your deadlines exactly and also you have to show your commitment to to the work that you're doing so you have to be on point every time so yeah you have to be on point every time sounds like a lot of pressure so let's talk about um your um I'm sure you've built a whole database now of some of the work that you've done let's talk about your last day on the job you know like um had you gone for a shoot I don't know whether whether it went wrong just tell me like what did you do a shoot and all the footage disappeared like what was your last day on the job like and what did you do to overcome it um I think there was there was a time when I had uh done a shoot for for a band uh then yeah we had done a shoot for a band then uh the photos that I had had saved on a friend's laptop because mine had had some issues so then uh I had left it with him because I was coming back to pick them then go edit it like after two days so I come back and I find that he's deleted the photos oh so they weren't even corrupted they were just deleted accidentally yeah goodness so now I had to explain to to the band that I was working with that this and this happened and yeah it was it was a lot how did you deal with it how did that make you feel um obviously I was I was annoyed at the fact that the photos are gone I was worried about what how the client would take the information but I just explained myself they were they were not very happy about that and I just offered my time because because I was supposed to deliver the photos now you had to do a pro bono yeah so I had to do a pro bono again to make up for that you had to compensate yeah that's interesting it's good for for the fans also to hear that sometimes things do go wrong yeah things do go wrong all the time and it's good to be honest you know and and if you can compensate what about your best day on the job as you conclude this segment such you can leave them with something maybe they can take home with them uh the best day yeah best day on the job yes or the best client or the best shoot I don't know whatever was whatever you consider to be your best so far uh I think my my my best let me let me say best client it's going to be it'll have to be bongosaha uh which is a brand owned by somebody who's become my friend um so so I've worked with them over over the span of like probably two years just different shoots and working with them is always very fulfilling because because they they just like okay so we have this this clothes come up with a concept and shoot them and they give me full creative freedom so yeah that's really good so you you kind of appreciate them because they gave you the freedom the creative freedom as well yeah it's it's it's it's really cool to be able to do what you want to do and they and they allow that so yeah okay okay so most photographers tend to diversify into film do you have any interest in making films or documentaries do you even see yourself there or where do you see yourself in the next two years or so um I do have an interest in film because actually studying it for for while in in school um and yeah I I might go into that it it it depends on a few things but it's definitely something I'm considering it's something you're considering yeah okay so as a partnership can you tell them are your social media handles as well and also maybe something something something to tell someone at home who is really interested in this um my social media is uh they dot frostographer on instagram on twitter it's rois bet just rois bet um and for anybody who's interested in photography I would advise you first understand the craft there there's a lot that goes into it not not just what people the final product they're just like ah you have to understand what is what it is that you're getting into and try to learn as much as as you possibly can also make make as many friends as you possibly can along the way because you'll need the help in the future oh that's amazing I said tisana for coming through at least now we've had make some friends as uh as you're going along yeah you'll need them sometime if you're a photographer somewhere out there thank you so much for watching you've been watching entrepreneurship tuesday only on why in the morning your favorite breakfast show please do not go anywhere there's still a lot of entertainment still planned out for you during the day on why to fight for channel my name is hilda madidi please do not go anywhere and have yourself a very good day