 Ooh That's okay. Is that the beginning? Yeah That's what ghosts say this people see this it would be 2023 it will Yeah, I saw one of the higher comments a new British Prime Minister. Yeah One of the top comments was like they should do so and I was like That's the whole idea this whole plan Actually movies that we're coming out consistently around Halloween time right for like one per year Yes, every year one three seven was one per year down right became a lot now as it's Another tradition will probably go around a little line of people doing like a what it's sore to you I would want to open with the people who know the least about it So I assume that would be rags what I know about saw or let what I allegedly know about saw is that it's got a fun little puppet and There's some spooky weird things he makes you do That's it. That's all I know. I've never seen any of the saw movies the saw spinoffs the saw extended universe I have not seen saw. I'm not into like gore. So I hope that's not too strong You'll be fine because you can look away and that'll be great is metal the next up then for no legible I guess so it's basically the same in general or with across the saw with regards to so Hey basically the same for me as it's a rags and we're vaguely aware what's going on in those movies We got all these trapper runes and the puppet. I think those movies get like we're there every time well a lot of franchises do Obviously, we're not gonna want to confirm anything at this point Yeah, that's basically it. It's just this weird gory thing apparently and that's why I never really watched it All right, but now we're all here and I'm super excited. I can hear the excitement in your voice Yeah, shut up go left to right on the remaining five. We're just a cat first you want to go What's what's sore to you? Hmm? I think I've seen five of them I remember there being lots of wacky situations characters wind up in and lots of twisty twists and turns And so I'm looking forward to that. That's the best kind of twist. All right How about you frango? I'd say that I am familiar ish I have watched some of them and I couldn't tell you which ones they were so it's more like a broad Understanding of the series like the premise that as it goes on it starts to get more crazy and kind of deteriorate And stray away from what was like originally a pretty cool idea. That's yeah, that's basically what I've got J Long don't we Yeah, basically seen all of them and the Chris Rock one just recently Which I hated Yeah, I saw the first one in theaters when it first came out with my cousins just imagine the twist at the end and like a theater full of stereotypical Negroes going apeshit over over All right, John, you're up same as Jay. I went to see it I remember in theater it came out in like the small town I grew up in and it was like it was like the date movie to go See really and yeah, except I didn't obviously didn't have a date at the time I just went with some friends of mine or I might have even just gone alone to see it I don't mind it that much the first two. I don't mind if the first one reminds me of a really good student film You know, there's some clever things to the script bogged down by overacting particularly in the second half But we'll get to that. Anyway, that's my take on it. I guess pro tip next time take him to the zoo. Yes Much better than taking them to saw saw is one of those movies that I remember because I was like I got into seeing this and now I'm like, how did I get into I was 11? How the fuck But I was very tall for my age And I'm pretty sure my dad was very fine with me seeing horror movies because I just they just didn't really I found them more fun And interesting and scary most of time. Yeah, I remember seeing this in theater and being like This was really cool. I really like this and then I know the first second and third pretty well and then four five six Seven question mark. I think all of them I could tell you the results But I can't tell you which ones are which so it was always fascinating to me such a strange set of movies for many reasons I think we'll get into them as we progress through them. But yes, I remember the first one being pretty solid I'm curious how it's gonna hold up in such a long time. They've seen it. I don't know if I'm a fan or not of soar I'll find out I think I'm not a fan of saw one thing I did know and it'll be a way to move on to the last person's that I very much enjoyed the Average of saw stuff from certain reviewers including but not limited to why I'm s over here. What do you think? Thank you, there's going to be points where you're all very confused about the timeline and I am here to help so if you ever What the fuck is going on in these movies? Don't worry. I've got you covered. I can help. Don't be scared to ask The red lines it's crazy. It is that's one of the things I'm kind of excited about The reveals well, there you go if anyone was curious about what kind of roster we got here Got a whole set of different familiarity levels, which is kind of what I was hoping for I really don't know how this is going to turn out. Oh, is everyone right with Saul ready spaghetti? Yeah, oh Three two one go. Oh, wait. Hold up. Hold up. I just got a phone call right at that moment Three two one go Cookie wow that is that is pretty scary This is the film that made Lionsgate it gave them enough money to change from that shitty looking logo Twisted pictures I've always thought had a neat little icon Oh, I love it. I'll twisty One's first film right? Yeah, I think it was first feature. I think so this actually was a student film before it became a Big defining thing of the film is I didn't have a lot of money, right? Is that kind of like the scope of the project? Well, if you can see I was gonna say the main character here at least one of them is under water This is foreshadowing Aquaman James one does Man, I hate it all the sleep underwater so this guy's Lee Winnell who's also one of the writers Collaborator with James one and he also directed the invisible man and upgrade Was the assumption there that he was put in the bath and he slowly slumped down until he was fully under and then it woke Him up by doing that. Yeah, why'd he be dead? Lights what if I could I would have done that, too Whatever I quite like the object being flushed down being the opening shot like to immediately throw the Audience off balance where it's like wait. What was that? Oh, that might actually be important And you don't want to just be wet, you know being wet just sucks. That's true. It does suck That's the real torture you want to shake you want to shake Then they use this one for scary movies good Yeah, oh no this room is gross. Yeah, it's not a good room Yeah, as much as being tied up is a bad thing. You were a nice room. You'd at least have that Confused First dead body I've ever seen Like zombies, are you referring to zombies? They've only ever seen dead bodies in zombie films like kids zombies They're not you see any scars. This is what they do, man They kidnap you and drug you before you know what you're lying in a bathtub and your kidneys are on eBay Who's they I'm not gonna say Gonna tell me your name Adam we ever brought us here could have killed us by now Or maybe they're really bad murderers now. It's just like no, I still want you dead. It's just gonna see slow I'm really bad at it. It's a clean clock. It's brand new Yeah, so okay, good observation Dumbass yeah Flaming ooh mini cassette ease This is old. I can understand how a room gets old and rusty But when the toilet is smeared in shit like I their hands and diarrhea yeah So what comes into clear with an artist they're just like how did that happen? It's like, you know old room bad, you know Well, they kidnapped people before these people and they just wanted to mess up the room then they could go home Oh my goodness. It's a bullet. We lay It's French for bullet Well, I'm just trying It'll be great if it just open Like bye game over Throw it under and I would definitely have gone underhand. Yeah That's the way I throw give me my key back. It was mine. No, you should probably keep that key It's a pride given to you for a reason. Oh, yeah, we could put these in the player for them. Oh, yeah That makes sense. That's like a puzzle Yeah, almost there almost there only it would be I will say like it stretch your skin stretch it They do with the things they're supposed to do I guess as human basically do eventually, you know It's like, yeah, I guess I would hold that you'd have to hold both ends and like scoop it And then pull it towards you like you'd hold the arms of the shirt and then you'd throw both ends forward So they have shoes like loop it tie the sleeves together or something. No, they don't have shoes Okay, you need something heavy at the end maybe take your shit off and tie that into like a roll into a ball and tie At the end take your pants off. Oh, that'll work too. Come on. You can do it Batteries are dead. How do these work? Rick roll. Just raise it. I just baby shark, and you can't turn it on Slide it, please Why you I threw you like Safer to throw the Breaking it You went to eight years of doctor's school Wait, look when you're in the operating room you need to throw objects over That they're gonna die so every day it's not old well, I'm sorry. It's not my fault Oh, that's easy Pretty good speakers on that tape Across the room like pretty well saying what's got it up to his ear In this room you could have like a symphony in this room. It's really good low-end Jigsaw's voice Follow your heart We're gonna scratch his own eyes like it's in there. Oh, no, not the pool. You know what you could look at You're hard to hit bro the fall of the white rabbit You would be like in the top of the toilet my head. I know right? Yeah Yeah, that was the first place Try would have checked the tank is not generally poopy Like accidents happen so people need to go okay. Oh, I still got the poopy on his head Well, so what struck me Then I was enjoying the fuck out of it. I was like man with this far in and it's just two guys in a room That's neat and we're trying stuff we're sticking our hands in toilets. Yeah Just two guys sitting in the hot tub Oh my god Why don't you slam it up against the wall before you throw it fair. Do you want to catch a flying song? Why did it cross the floor? I don't know. That's not what I saw. You don't that's that's ridiculous Madness Oh, oh fuck. Oh, I mean now you're definitely not way to go. What was the budget for this? I assume you don't know Adam I think it was like a million dollars, right? That was those what they have and it made like a hundred million dollars So, you know profit margin like return on investment. God imagine how good that was feel It's the reason why it became a franchise right now return on investment. It's insane quick another one another one another one another one another one and another one And another one. He doesn't want us to cut through our chains. He wants us to cut through our feet I think I may know who's done this to us last I heard please still hadn't caught him The only reason I know that is because I was a suspect Oh that guy he's hedgehog man from x-men 3 he's a predator too. He is indeed. Yeah, he's in a bunch of stuff. Yeah Oh jeez. Yeah, Danny. Oh wait. I'm talking about both of them actually Oh, and that's Diz from stash of troopers victims of 46 year old male Died of massive blood loss. All right. You saw that looking at him. I think she's already deduced this because it looks like people have already had a look around Hey, he started. Yeah, she's that good at her job. It's amazing. He got as far as he did Yikes, put himself so deep. We found traces of stomach acid on the floor Gross Cancel time for you to die Across your wrist the irony is that if you want to die you just have to stay where you are But if you want to live you'll have to cut yourself again He's doing a bad job. Yes You did a poor little bit. That's not how you do it. That's not how I would have done it now That the Helen Keller strategy is probably To be honest, it looked like he probably could he had two hours You know, it's hard and you probably get hurt, but his approach was bad. Yes The newspapers started calling him The jigsaw killer technically speaking. He's not really a murderer. Oh, yes. He's absolutely Oh, okay. Come on. Oh, that's oh, it was the bullet officer. It wasn't me Bullets in prison Hello mark. Oh, hi mark. If you're so sick, then why don't I have so many photos of you up and about Right now, there's a slow acting poison in your vein combination to the safe Yeah, that's bullshit. By the way, that's a flammable substance smeared on your body I stuck some dynamite up your ass little bras If it was if it were 50 numbers, maybe but that well, how many is that like a thousand Oh, fuck is he gonna get all that in there? Can you not just- that one seems impossible. Yeah, that one seems Also, it was bright enough to not need the candle. Yeah, just blow it out I think the implication was that it wasn't bright enough, but just practically they had to film it Yeah, yeah, yeah, so there's some people that have theorized that like maybe actually I'll explain later Yeah, these films get theories guys. Tony Todd is jigsaw There's an inoperable frontal lobe tumor extending across the midline is John Oh my god, that's saw as you can see. That's the weird man. That's the murderer Him because he's weird. Could be these two doctor surgeon people eat peoples. You don't know No, it's that guy Maybe they want maybe they want me to think it's that guy and it's not his name is red herring. I think it might be I was about to say I was thinking of the fish, but yeah, I think it's I'm detective tap, but I'm here to tap that is Well, he couldn't afford a tie Like really though, there's a reason they were able to get him for this film Oh Are you able to tell us where you were between the hours of 11 p.m. At 1 a.m. Last night doctor the lawyer Yeah, that is a lawyer. Yeah, no Get a better one. What were you doing last night? I was seeing someone wasn't a patient. All right. Oh Oh, no, what am I gonna do? It was a clown. Well, as your lawyer Oh, yeah, the asian detective was in old everything's gonna be okay What's your name the guy was the spiky x-man to I said that already My bad. Sorry. This is over. Everyone's I got these scars That's fucking iconic. I was gonna say so this is the one thing I expected people to bring up. This is something I remember the reverse this is the selling point of the movie was this headgear Invented for this film with this. There's no references for him. Yeah I think it looks like my grandmother Oh my goodness, that's not good. You're gonna want to avoid that. Yeah, that's a bad thing. There is only one key to open the device It's an a stomach of your dead soul mate Ah As soon as we saw your tv broke When you're done spazzing out, would you look around? Uh-oh bowls should have done this more calmly And then I saw the body Fox ticking might want to hurry the riddler He's been injected with an opiate overdose. He was having a great time Man that that guy didn't get a choice No, not really You did it Though I still feel like since we've seen like three forms of traps now This one's a little bit easier in a sense. Yeah, you had to fuck up someone else. Yeah How is he supposed to get out? You have earned your 20 amazon gift card That was upsetting, but it was worth it. You are in fact, aren't we all I'm addicted to life baby. Don't you drink coffee? Do you think that is why he picked you? Are you grateful Mandy? Suspicious question asked Okay, stop this woman needs therapy. She just got therapy. It helped her that was therapy That was the therapist on orthodox, but it's right. Doctors hate this one trick I know what you're telling the truth. You can be the one who put me in this room You could be the one put me in the room. Fuck you You're a two-way mirror. Whoa ouch Were they throwing I guess just chunks of the wall. Yeah, little poop pieces That's some powerful poop right there Man could you get lower res? Can you hear me in there? Huh? I'm having a blast. This is the most fun I've had without lubricant. Okay That tape told us to find an axe You could be the calm doctor guy when your wife and kid are out there He could be doing anything to them right now. You thinking about that? I am thinking about that. Listen. I am very much considering killing you. Okay Yeah, don't piss me off I'm thinking about the last thing I said to my daughter You told your daughter that santa claus wasn't real, but we all know that obviously He makes the presence up here in the morning The only logical thing you have to eat an entire lump of coal To kill the dream of a child you could chop it into smaller pieces, but it would take longer It's me dan schneider. Go back to bed. Uh-oh, what you look really gonna pick like anybody. There's so many at this point Who could be in the dock staring at the check off your socks. Yeah. Oh, she's sleeping with her socks on Some people do that. Oh, some people do that. Yeah lunatics do that. Well, I mean it's at night time. The moon is out What is that wait the moon wait? Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah How's hoping you'd be proud of me for that like how long did it take to walk your mother's bed? Mother right having nightmares Is santa real tell me the truth gotta be Israel isn't a dad was fucking with us Can you go to sleep? I'm still scared. Give me your tootsie. This little piggy. He's trying to say you're fat Work sweetheart. You're gonna be sleeping in a second anyway, so it's not gonna matter if I'm not here All right, let's be pragmatic about this. That's why I told you about the santa claus thing You're not gonna leave. Oh sweetheart. I Gave you that idea mom's boyfriend said Wow I don't know how much longer we can tell him bedtime stories. Okay I mean, I think it was like a j cut, but it did seem kind of yeah, it did. Yeah Stories aren't real go to bed And now we know it's underhand. Okay. Yeah for the wallet. You didn't want to you didn't damage the wallet, you know It's really important It's more important You must really not be entertaining the idea that you'll kill him because you'd think you wouldn't want to Get more connected in any way and share your stuff about yourself if you're gonna actually consider killing this guy So where's the lucky wife? There's another picture behind the one you're looking at Oh my god Wouldn't you have checked through the wallet when you find out that he planted a tape on one of you? Yeah, to be fair, there's a lot of poop on the walls. It's very distracting. It's not here This photo you're talking about it's not here. Why wouldn't you just tell him that? Oh That was really fucking awkward and obvious. He was looking right at him too Like, oh, what's that picture you got right there? He's like, well, no, nothing Complete bullshit Just leave. No, I'm not feeling like this right now. I'm not sure how much way Tell me not some princess bride people probably annoyed. We haven't brought up princess bride yet Oh Santa Claus is evil Dog Oh my god, it's an actual ghost The guy was just standing there with the blanket draped over. That was pretty weird, bro. That was kind of cheesy He hasn't had the pause before the action was a bit You're lucky that she wasn't like packing a gun or something and just shot your ass What if the husband was still there? That's another adult? I guess he knew I guess he waited. Oh, I guess if it was a while after it looked like it was right When the husband left it was hard to tell. Yeah, because she was still standing in the same spot in the living room I'm a surprise contract pediatrician Wouldn't the hoppy be faster now? I do house calls. I imagine these two are pretty stressed out, you know Like why why dude, why for fun? What a fucking weirdo, but then you know, I guess I'm like a little bit of his face there read the room, dude They don't like the gun thing So he's watching their house. We're doing a little timeline shenanigans right now This isn't happening now that's happened earlier. No, so well, this is actually present But last we saw him was in the past where he was he was pretty chill see but he's not chilling Yeah, this is closer to the present than the Initial investigations we saw so the current game is happening very close in the timeline to This current version of Danny Glover who seems a little bit buying an unhinged bad guy Because you know when you put newspapers all over the wall that just means you've gone that Also that transition was so weird. Yeah, it was it's such a bizarre choice You know, we arrested a dentist like to play with kids a bit too much He lived two blocks from here the sewer lines run under this neighborhood too All you damn medical professionals the same You say you help do you also do you have an extra tie I can borrow you're a doctor You surely have many ties. Oh crispy cream You We're gonna get more than one, right? They're gonna. Oh two beers. Okay. They're gonna split a beer Literally going to get a beer. I don't think it's weird. They're gonna go. What it's a big beer Uh It's weird, I didn't know what song was gonna come out when that joke began as I thought in my head But that's the song that came out. That's just the first song comes to my head Can we enhance this k2 gun zoom computer enhance Section four dash six the asian detective. Oh, I'll say later actually. Yes. We know he's the hedgehog from x-men three That's a real thing and I'm gonna make the edit to grab that image. You can't make me It totally can and will You gotta check the records from all the fire emergencies that occurred in that area within the last two weeks An old listing used to be a mannequin factor. Do you think we have enough for a warrant though? Who said anything about a warrant? Whoa, Danny. Danny They're doing things not by the book We don't need a warrant. He's like, oh, that's like a legal Yeah, should we tell people we're going here in case something bad happens to us? No Mavericks you're reckless. That's why I brought you give me a badge. You get going. There's no time I hope they caulk that thing several times. That's my favorite movie trope Why do you have a shotgun? I guess it's just around any corner I would I would be fine with a shotgun. I would feel safe and secure Look, we bought it for the department. We need an excuse to use it You've always wanted to bring the shotgun. Now's your chance. Singh has always loved the shotgun That's why we call him shotgun sing Oh, that's neat Oh, there's models. This isn't great. This is so pretty Nerd What is this a torture room for ants? Oh my god Oh my god. Oh jimmy christmas Oh, hey, man. Oh, hi. What you doing here? Cock a gun What the fuck If you're just pointing at a gun at him when he walks in he could just turn around and then you have to chase him So probably not the best idea to just be standing there will be to get the jump on it hit him in the back of the head Yeah, you know hide somewhere. Good thing there's loud music so that he couldn't hear you guys running around I'm back from worshiping satan honey. I'm Satan ceremony just got back from a prize fight. Awake already Jeff. I need more powerful tranquilizers next time Hold it right there. Don't move. Put your fucking hands in the air. Lucky. Just don't care The second he made a movement you just thought they might shoot in 20 seconds the life of this man will be ended He certainly they did decide to point their weapons at him while he's right next to like a victim Yeah, yeah, maybe shotgun not the best. He's slowly moving in a particular direction. I'm like stop moving It's in the box If you just took a hammer and beat those drills, they would look like a thousand keys dude With the gun shoot the wire shoot the wire Is held up by wood, right? Where's that steel? He disconnected the wire with his foot No, the wires that lead to the drill. Yeah, probably the power Whack him in the head with the shotgun. Where's the emergency stop? You There you go, yeah, thank you. Yes guns are very powerful Oh man, no way no fucking way I would chase him at this point because this is his place Who knows what he's got now if only he had like a tie to wrap around the neck to exactly He did the thing then a shell didn't fly out which he needs to One ready to go. It's whatever he aims at anything that he's picked. That's how resident evil was doing that all the time. It's great Oh, it was someone else he put in the hood, isn't it considering they're a busy zillion of these films I doubt he just killed the killer It just seems unlikely Right there Oh, maybe that is the twist that would be a second ball the way he actually is So like all the other films would just be like copycats who think that's a great idea Oh How do you not notice that even I saw that Oh, no jam. Oh my god, did he have a vest on? Didn't even pee his holes in the back. Oh, it didn't even break. Yeah, there should be holes in the back Oh, it's a John Wick suit. That's why Oh, it's mad. Okay there, buddy Put pressure on the wounds REEG! I MEAN SING! Hey, he survived and now we got a vengeful cop the amount of fucking regret you must have all those decisions You didn't make when you could have that must been rough sing was a smart one. He shot the drills Excuse me I'm looking at my fingers I broke a nail Just turn them off for a second What you're up to but I'll do it I got a poop. Oh Oh, it's the x games The lights in here hadn't charged it. It must be glowing the dark paint or something To be honest with you wouldn't the lights have been on when they were setting this whole thing up I guess it was the amount of time that it that the lights were off But it couldn't have been long because the guy was under yeah, because the guy was underwater So it couldn't have been that long. I still don't understand the underwater thing to be Why he dropped into the water and then just started out in the room Again, my explanation is he slowly sank until That's the only explanation that you can have Everything else is a bit stupid. Oh that key. I almost threw the fuck away Work it you think that you haven't practiced throwing things to be a bit better at it at this point You know not even by this you're just like you're old enough to where you should have a basic ability to throw an object There's a snickers bar in there. You're not you when you're hungry I'm going to turn you into who you could really be A flip phone, okay. Oh sweet Also the date said 9 10 oh one by the way Yeah, fuck it we're gonna die anyway I don't care. I really don't the cigarettes are harmless. I promise think about this. You don't need a gun to kill that May I please have a cigarette? No, it'll give you cancer. It's bad for you. Can you imagine that like even give the cigarette jigsaw is like I mean, he will die eventually so it counts. It's good enough Last night after I finished at the hospital. I was walking back to my car. This is a hospital I don't believe this is a hospital's parking garage. Is that what he said? This is like a parking garage from Batman and Robin The hospital parking was full. I thought I was alone But I'm sure someone else was there Of course. He drives a BMW. Of course. He fucking does. No wonder. He's a dick. Hey, we'll wait. No, we drive a BMW You're a dick. Oh, no. Oh, oh my goodness gracious. There's two assholes in that It's the crow's parking garage That's like to get away with any crime here Are you not looking at your car? What are you doing in the business? Can I help you? What's that noise Whenever they show the pig mask in particular they do the monster noises over it going going going going going going going Adam are you thinking on this like the insole they do that And then someone goes up to someone and just like they knock them out and you're like, well, what did they do? It's like they knock them out. What did they do? I assume that they have like they do show us some The movie trope is chloroform, but there's other things you could use pocket sand, of course How did you know to turn off the lights? Who cares? It worked. Yeah, but how did you know instinct instinct? Yeah, you're a terrible liar. You want to know? Yeah I'd love to know. Yeah, how long would you guess they've been in here? There it is. Uh 20 minutes 30 minutes, maybe Where did you get this? Why didn't you show me this before? Yeah, that was maybe Maybe the fact it's it that's how raw it is these raw emotions. They actually took this back probably You will be in this movie What are you doing? I think that was better Definitely better. Absolutely. That was better. You don't need a gun to kill Adam when there's that much poison in your blood The only thing left to do What are you gonna light it with? There's a lighter in there. There's a lighter in there. Yeah, which would make me think oh fire That's pretty good. What can we do with that? Good thing. He's not looking Yeah, they do that a lot with each other Nothing I mean the audio would still come through normally, so I don't maybe they're whispering. Yeah, he was whispering The problem is it's it's clear that that's happening So you have to keep that in mind now for whatever happens next So you uh, you still want that cigarette? Is he like already suspicious at all? Yeah, if I were the killer I'd be like guys Dude, he did it again underthrowed the thing that couldn't possibly be destroyed by an overthrow. There's a lighter. You Why? They choose the opposite one every time I wonder when cigarettes will be like a antiquated thing. You have to explain people whether they are like phones on the wall People used to do that What are you doing? Good god What if the poison just walks up to you? Act like your life depends on it Yeah, like the poison just it makes you vomit profusely and then die. So jigsaw's just like uh There I've done it. I've killed him with the poison just like you want it. No Oh, whoops. Can you hear that? How? No, that's for us. Get off. Stop acting You think that would make that up just to mess up your stupid fucking charade? All right, that's it Yeah, one thing I was thinking is if he did go with like a hole I will try to kill him if you had to be a cigarette. It had a big people splooge on the end of it I probably be like, uh, wait, this looks like blood. It looks like the killer that's in front of you. Did you get it? It's lipstick You only tried for a few moments. It might you might have to be a little patient Oh, this is a depressing place to live. Wow, you live here. Oh god In a million dollar apartment in Los Angeles This is like where the serial killer should live This is like the serial killer's house in seven except he's not supposed to be a serial killer in this context He's just like a photographer, dude. It was shot in australia. Wow. No comment from the australian Oh, what am I supposed to make you bad? It's true. It's literally true. Go makers. Our music makes me think that this is the end of the movie We did the credits to stop rolling. It's like wait, there's so much to do Wow, photography is really boring. I fell asleep Dude, there's a lot of times in this movie where they need to show us what's happening But the character can't see anything and so it creates a little bit of dissonance But they've done it several times. You could do it better than this, you know I actually think here we if you can introduce the idea which is he's walking and taking photographs This would be way better if it was pitch black with a couple of reflections and then only Yes, you only ever see the frame Yeah, this I think is a losing out on the effect by making us see everything Plus that's like jump scare waiting to happen. What in that case? Throw something at him. Oh, don't do that. Oh, tell me who sent you Did you hit the puppet you lose if you hit the puppet Why did you hit the puppet? Did you not read the note on the puppet? Oh, fuck I put it right there. I said to you That's a horror movie dork. I've ever heard one. Yeah. Yes. This is a horror movie apartment They really waited for it to take the photo Oh god, we've been here for six hours nearly damn so he was asleep You could have just got him but you waited for the wake up walk around his apartment Divide the fucking doll and hit it with a basic Yeah, it's me. I'm here. This doesn't change anything about santa claus. Just so we're clear Larry alley don't believe adam's lies. He knew all about you before today She mentioned your name. She told me not to believe you Believe me about what? Can you say it say it more guilty dude this was this film what inspired le dois. I think so You know who I am i'm the riddler Dude that fucking delivery. I love it. What did you do last night laurence told me that after you left your house last night You went to work at a hospital because it's the truth. No, it's not You don't recall getting your picture taken in that parking lot. No Man that was real subtle must have been my imagination. You can take a picture of him without the plan It's not the first time i've done it either larry What's the flash of all of those Every image is completely accurate and cannot be manipulated Why did you page me when you knew I was at home because I was just horny. Let us do the sex Why did you pick the greasiest hotel for us to come to jim i think we were just in a greasy horrible place This is everywhere. It's horrible He's called me dr. Gordon. It's weird that we're not on the first name basis yet. He's just gonna call you a whore The phone's gonna ring Oh my god, how did I see it coming? Just hear a voice like it passed the door pick it up You tell me when you're here. No Oh, no It's for you If this is where you're coming to sleep with people the fair stuff you should really not hold that It doesn't matter who's called it, buddy. This is bad news. He just goes. Hello Hello, this is someone else We got this scene and they keep adding different contexts to it change It's meaning No, it's the scene But he is rich and he really wants to save a lot of money on the fucking hotels The person who paid you to follow me. Who was it calls himself bob and he gives me the money up front Whoever paid you to take pictures of me. It's the one who put us here. What did he look like? You know, he's just a guy. Was he tall was he skinny obese? Why don't take notes about his appearance. You're telling me you don't remember a thing about the guy told you Oh, for fuck's sake. He's a tall black guy. He's got a scar around his neck. Okay. How did you not open with that? Yeah, I didn't know anybody looks like he looked a lot like daddy glover. I don't know He's hilarious in universe. It's daddy glover He was he was discharged from the police force the guy that came obsessed Convinced himself that I must have somehow been involved with the murders and he was crazy And you helped him you took money from him to invade my privacy. You're not a victim of this game You're part of it. Oh Yeah, he's not a part of the system. He's a bottom feeder just like you What are you more pissed off about the fact that I took some shots of you or the fact that I took some shots of you While you were cheating on your wife I was role playing as someone who was That's different. That is very different My whole life was in perfect order No, it wasn't Mommy just needs you to be really really really really strong right now Stop crying. Not very convincing mom. Yeah, but mom, you're not being very strong right now Brain blast. What the Just my wife's boyfriend. What does your wife's boyfriend look like? He's like, which one? He's a tall black guy with a scar across his There's so many kind of like danny glover You didn't notice this in the pictures you took and developed that there was a guy standing in the window Uh-oh You picture How did you not have this on your head? Yeah Here I go kill him again, but he's not really saw him. He doesn't want to do it He's being hired just like the other guy was hired saw the mastermind Dr. Gordon's time is up. I'm afraid it has to be you that tells him he failed Is that you Zepp you bastard? I know it's you you son of a bitch Yeah Shoot him you might want to shoot him. He's like, okay, right now. Let me explain 10 reasons why you shouldn't shoot me Really I want you to back up. Yeah I want you to get out of reaching and grabbing this. He's getting a little closer lady. Where are you? Please forgive me. I've always been happy with you. Oh, yeah the kid. I forgot about that. Oh You're so incredibly. I told you to be strong idiot. All you had to do is not be within arms distance You know for a fact keep pulling the trigger empty the gun so he can't use it against you You know the for a fact that tap is like finally. Jesus Why do you Know I was in pain and incapacitated That's that's emotional cover is what that is Oh no, oh man If this bullet to that gun, you should totally have killed tap there, right? Double tap. Oh, there you go Oh my god, he's reloading dude. He's got his back to tap right now You still have to pull the slide back. There's no idea. He has to if you pull the trigger He's moving around because he just doesn't seem to care. He's like, oh, well, you are not a good everybody's pretty bad In this in terms of this everyone's really deals like Let's go. I guess I reload now. It wasn't even all the way to him crying is just funny. Oh, jeez. How are we? It was like we need permits to go on the road. Fuck that I'll get you see should have shot him now. Look what you're dealing with We're just gonna wait for you at that door, right with the gun pointed at it So once you walk through he's gonna shoot you. No, I guess not because that's not what people do That's pretty small. I'm thinking he's gonna do something pretty cool and interesting. Oh, no, it's just Why'd you go and do that? Put that in your pocket if you need to climb down the ladder climbing down the ladder with the gun cut afforded towards his head Yeah, there's other things you can do at the moment Oh, you're so bad at just just being bad Yeah Use your shit Lawrence calm down there must be a way out of him Throw him your shit. He can't figure it out himself. I'm trying to will my arms longer. He's gonna try to scream the chain off I'm gonna put you in your sick asshole Yes, he's figured it out use the I mean the shirt you could use for something else you could use Why do that when I can cut my leg off You know, you should really think this through What are you gonna do when you reach the bone not even your biggest problem I just hear the noises well she sound right there Wow you pulled up. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, he did because the guy had a limp Right up the ass I jump on him like a bouncy castle. Make sure the gun is out of arms distance. Oh, he managed to get his hands What the fuck? Cool. How did that happen? Why are you so bad? Oh, no, what are you doing? Why are you so bad? He's fucking backflip gunshot him like just two days from retirement Maybe we'll wait till the end, but I really want to talk about detective tap story because What do you mean? It was great. It was great Oh, there was no blood on this shirt when he shot him. What a terrible day Did ironic that my favorite song is Footloose Oh Hey, man, you jump your own foot off damn dude. Nice. Your foot is clearly. Yeah. Yeah That dead oh Oh my god Toileted look up with your leg. That's poison everywhere. Flash you honestly. I've never thought of that That's really true rubbing your flash along that poisoning blood. Yeah, not a good idea. Now kiss I don't think it's that kind of movie You're gonna be all right. I just wounded you in the shoulder like listen, okay I tried killing you, but I missed but you'll be okay You're ready for the first soul revealio Zep this is slow acting poison coursing through your system, but only I have the antidote There are rules It's a rule. Thank you. There were rules. Oh my god yoga I looked downward noggin in here Oh, that was getting itchy. That's the last time I drink tequila. Okay to that chain is in the bathtub. Why are you fucking with me? I don't like that. Oh, his name is john has an inoperable frontal lobe tumor Sick of people who don't appreciate their blessings. Looks like our guy likes to book himself for our seats to his own sick Epilepsy warning. Oh Jesus. Yeah, most people are so ungrateful to be alive, but not you not anymore You're going upstairs to watch Regis Game over Oh He said the thing get me out of here. I didn't do anything. I love a happy ending. Yeah Yay, we did it. We saw saw we no longer have to see saw Oh my goodness Monica paul's it. Oh harry paul's bone. There's still plenty of saw to see you guys Oh, what do you think? I didn't like it. Oh Like it's a product of its time It's moderately amusing to watch in a group of people who like are making fun of it sort of But I cannot imagine ever going to a theater and thinking wow, that was good. We need more of this I don't think it holds up. Well, well, hang on. Did you think a quiet place was good? Um, that's directed at rags Oh Wait, did I yeah, I didn't even know you're referring to me. Is that my thought? I think you also thought of distella was good Okay, I think it's all right. Oh, we've all been there. Okay If we were to just grant those things is true for the sake of this argument What does it have to do with saw a soul's better than both of them? Definitely I like it's not even close. I think it's got plenty of problems, but I like it a lot. It's actually well, it's fun I was hoping to get to the points of praise as well. I like making fun of it But there's plenty I like in this the overall idea of just a new kind of serial killer Quote-unquote new and then all these big twists and turns and all the revelations that come one by one Like yeah, I could totally understand how an audience would be engrossed in this Yeah, and it's just like very strong Yeah, it's a nice small thing kind of like cube was yeah, or you can just film something really low budget small cast Limited locations. Well in this case, I could have been better. Sure. Could it have been worse? Yeah for the problems that it has I think it's all right. I like it and I think it's good Yeah same jigsaw decided I'm going to plant them all in the room And I'm actually going to leave the key to the chains attached or at least floating in the bath So let's pretend for a second that someone else character wakes up and he he doesn't immediately thrash So he opens up the thing he just goes what the fuck and then he in his hands move around He says oh, what's this chain thing and holds on to it before he gets out And then he goes right this up this opens my thing cool. This opens yours. All right Well, like what what is the idea there? Really caught to the core of the concept of jigsaw does it? No, I always thought that it was supposed to be really cheap added on way of just being like see you're your own enemy Also, they're just like fuck off. How was he supposed to know? It's yeah, it's to add an extra layer of like I think that there's a fear in regret in these films where it's like Oh, I could have done this if only I had known this then I'd be alive But now I have to live knowing that I could have saved myself and I didn't yeah Like that's a very common thing in these films and it's just a way of them adding that it's not it doesn't make any sense I think that's pretty accurate They wanted that beat so badly that they didn't think about the actual logic of it The whole idea with jigsaw is because he's dying He's really upset about seeing people wasting their lives So he puts them in scenarios that are meant to test, you know, basically Decisions they're making because they're almost they're supposed to be like appropriate to their story at least very pretty much I think that was exemplified by the guy who's cutting himself despite having a life that's perfectly acceptable He's like so how much you're gonna cut yourself to keep your life. Hmm. Just like yeah He he has his philosophy, but he clearly plays favorites I kind of I kind of want you to keep living and I kind of want you not to What I'll pretend is if you all have that guy who has a lot to say Yeah That's one of the things I remember when I watched this that I felt uncomfortable with I felt like if the choice of those three games we saw other than the one that these guys are going through It's like, well, I I guess the one you want probably the one where you have to hurt someone else But then again, yes the barbed wire one that really seems possible to me Maybe I need to be they don't understand how much it's not possible at all or it's gonna be Exactly Along the ground really slowly. Yeah, if you go real slow two hours to get across what looked to be like two meters Maybe three. I will say I I vastly prefer jigsaw as an antagonist to an amorphous death from the final destination movies Nothing. Well only because of the execution. I would say myself. Yeah Well, here's the thing watching the final destination movies to work on the edits for him I was like, oh so any bullshit nonsense can happen at any time. Cool. That's great But this you know the way he executes his plans are very kind of over the top But I appreciate that there's a character there that we can try to make sense of I think there's a bit more motivation than just they should all die. Yes Yeah, I think that's part of what gave so its character as well that that whole like he does it for a reason But I don't know how well it carries through the movie go on So now I want to talk about detective tap Why? He's my favorite detective. He's such a lame storyline. He's the best detective Oh, I remember even when I first saw this I was like, please give me something more than just like he just dies He kind of repeats too. He dies the look he gets his throat cut his partner killed So he goes on like the the arc of like the avenging cop who's lost his ways on hinge But he's still gonna follow this case. He's gonna put it through the end. He just gets killed But he's crazy. Yeah, it's just like oh He's watching the security camera like 24 hours a day for years. He's finally got his moment He shows up with half a clip of ammo He's been preparing for this moment like for years Wouldn't it have been more satisfying just tweak it so that he and zap kill each other And then we get to think about how both of them are like under jigsaw's game Kind of and they were they got to the point of killing each other when that neither of each other Were what the they wanted really I mean like that because like oh man I've always remembered it being so unsatisfying. They have little boss fine. He just gets killed. You're like, oh, that's just seems pointless Got goofed. Yeah, it's like the least satisfying way to possibly watch that play out. He's just two idiots Well, yeah the way he gets shot is like everything about I don't know if I don't know terrible Uh, if adam knows this but I've played through it the soul the video game It's about how detective tap is saved Find someone medically and then he's put into a series of traps that he's got to go through and you forgot I forgot he was the main character. Yeah. Yeah, I would like to uh, just share like a one minute clip If if that's fine. This is in these settings for the if you go to the game settings for saw the video game This is what you hear Oh This should have just played over the credits of the first movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah The voice acting is so bad. So held back. I like this. Yeah, it's not great. Not great I am I am constantly thinking about that voice acting like all the time almost sounds like morty Oh Geez get me out of here out of curiosity. Why is what what number do you give this the one? I have it rated as a seven right now. Holy moly. Um, wow I Out of a million there's so much wrong with it and like the the experience Does dwindle the more times you see like I've seen it probably like 20 times So like this this time I felt like it was kind of more of a six But I don't know I I do have kind of like a bias and favoritism towards these because I You know grew up with them and yeah, it's so nostalgic for me I don't know the the first one the first one has very humble beginnings and I appreciate it for that Um, yeah, I was bringing said I like it more than I think it's good. I can't even say it's a five I like it's not I think so. I think it's got so many problems Uh, I do really like how much of it takes place just in the one room with two people We do a lot of flashbacks, but all the stuff for most of the stuff I should say before the acting gets a little wacky It's just the two of them in the room. I quite like it pretty sure. This is the best one. Yeah, yeah question mark I would say that. Oh my goodness. Yeah, so that'll be interesting to see I It depends how you're judging it if I Want to put on another one right away just for my own personal enjoyment This isn't the one that I would put on first, but I'll let you know when it comes up But yeah, this is definitely the the one to most appreciate in terms of like its legacy, I guess Uh, that was sore Um, I saw was there anything else you guys wanted to mention about this movie before we say goodbye It was funny. I I found it more funny than I've ever found it And I think that's because I've been watching it with all of you that could be why yeah Alley There's some There's some clever attempts at plotting, but it needed more work on it. Kerry L. A's is very funny in the movie. Yeah I also think that the film has a style that comes through pretty clearly There's a lot of cool shots I would do that would go as far as I saw as a series has a style that I don't Associate with much of anything else, but it's a voice for sure. I like the whole puppet Puppet's cool puppet. I hope he has his own movie puppet. I'm gonna be real quick. I'll be able to call it spiral That's a reference. Okay. I'm very clever. Okay. Bye. Bye everybody. What'd you bring me?