 This is going to be linguistics at work. This is going to be your overview for a wide variety of careers in linguistics beyond academia. I'm Alex Johnston. I'm director of the masters in language and communication program in the Department of Linguistics at Georgetown University. Before that, I worked in nonprofit organizations and as a solo entrepreneur and as a talent developer for corporate clients. What we're going to do today, I'll let my co-presenter introduce herself in just a second, but I just want to let you know that what we're going to do is to provide you with a lot of information. Maybe it'll be overwhelming. Maybe there'll be a lot of new and different position titles and different pathways and new things. However, this is just an overview. We're going to connect the information we present today to sessions that you can attend throughout this entire month of events. We'll be calling out different sessions that will expand different parts of this overview. I think if you go back to this presentation, you'll realize how it connects to events that you will be able to take part in later. Again, just a reminder to everyone who joins, please mute yourself. I'll let my co-presenter Emily Pace introduce herself now. Thank you, Alex. I'm so glad to be here with you today and with all of our audience members. I am currently the principal linguist at a company called Expert System USA that provides natural language processing products and solutions to federal government customers. I have a master's degree in theoretical linguistics and I have been involved with the Linguistics Beyond Academia group as a co-convener for a couple of years now and before that was involved with the group in a more casual capacity. I'm really happy to be here with all of you today and to see the interest that we've gotten in LCL. Alex, back over to you. Great. Thank you, Emily. So let's go to our first slide. Let's get into this. All right. I think you've heard this before. When you say you're a linguist, what do people respond? Next slide, Emily. Something familiar to all of us. How many languages do you speak? There you go. Yes. The same as that. How many languages do you speak? No. That is not what we do. And yet that is so often the first response when people learn that we're linguists. So next slide. What we're going to be talking about is how linguists have a translation problem and nobody really knows what we do. We are different things to different people and we can provide different types of value to different types of employers. So here's just a smattering of what many people think linguists do. Next. And we have to figure out, based on our audience, how can we connect with that employer, how can we connect and let people know what we do, how we can provide value, how we can solve problems in the workplace. So we're going to address some of that translation issue for you today and throughout the month of these events. So what we'll explore now and later is where linguists actually work. And this is going to be based on real data that we've collected. You'll hear about the data that we've collected on linguists in sectors outside of academia throughout business, nonprofit, tech, and beyond. And in addition to that, during our month of events, we are going to present a career management method for life. Yes, this is going to be something that you can take with you during this month and well beyond. So, and we're going to blow the lead right here. This is the lead. And this is your method that we are going to expand upon throughout our career management tracks. Number one, when you need to discover yourself, your skills, your values, interests, and what you really like to do. And we're going to provide some tools for you to do that to make explicit to you and to others what you are skilled in, what you value and what you like to do. And then we're going to try and find that fit. We'll give you steps, next steps to take to find that fit in the workplace. Next, step two, we are going to research where the jobs are. And through our career management track, we're going to show you how to do that research. A lot of that involves talking with people, interacting with people, networking with people, we're going to make that fun. We're going to show you the value of doing that. And then finally, we're going to show you how to tailor your documents to specific jobs every single time, tailor your documents, tailor your resume, and then apply to those jobs. That's what we cover. And that's something that is cyclical. You can repeat that throughout the course of your life whenever you find yourself in transition. So I know I'm presenting this as a really quick overview, but these are the basic steps that you can take as a linguist or however you identify in order to find your next step in your career journey. So we're going to give you that career management lens, which will change your outlook. Next please. It's not, there we go. Okay. It got stuck. So Alex mentioned that what we are going to be telling you about today was some actual data that we've collected. Back in the summer of 2019, so approximately an entire lifetime ago, we did an initial career linguist survey run by the Linguistics Beyond Academia Special Interest Group and distributed throughout some of our personal networks as well as our SIG Facebook page to try to get a sense of what were people with linguistics degrees doing. And, you know, a couple of caveats about this survey. So we, this was our first time doing something like this. So we had a good number of responses for our first distribution over a pretty wide time range. So we even got some future career linguists into that set of responses. And, you know, a couple of other notes about this, we did not necessarily circulated it as widely as we could have. We did not do extensive user testing with it. So this is just a snapshot of one part of the career linguist community. So we will be highlighting a few things that we found as part of this survey, but we hope you will see this as a starting point for what linguists can do with their degrees, not an exhaustive list of what linguists have to do with their degrees. And, you know, a range of people who have linguistics degrees at various levels, as well as non-linguistics degrees. We do have this survey data publicly available for anybody who's interested in checking it out. I will post, I don't have the link handy right now, but I can share that link in Slack later. And by the way, if you haven't joined us on Slack yet, you totally should. There's going to be a lot of great discussion and resources that will be shared there. And so what I want to do is focus on, sorry, I'm trying to move to the next slide and it's stuck. There we go. On some of the places that you'll find linguists and specifically looking at some of the first job titles that we collected in this specific survey, which again was kind of a limited set. And you can see there's a lot of different titles here, but what I want to focus on are some of the variation that you might see when you're looking for job titles. And again, don't worry too much about everything that's on, you know, this slide will be retouching on these themes throughout LCL. We will make these slides publicly available as well. So you can see that if you just look for something like communications or linguists or speech, that is a small subset of the job titles that people have as their first job after getting their linguistics degree. And what you can take away from this are other job titles to look for and the range of jobs that people can do with their linguistics degrees, some of which will clearly be related to linguistics based on the job title. So something like, you know, an NLP engineer or cross-cultural communications. But we find a lot of linguists who are employed in broad sectors, even going beyond what some might consider to be in linguists, you know, in linguistics. That's not a viewpoint that we take. We see linguistics training as incredibly valuable and incredibly applicable to so many different sectors. So even even these positions that might not seem on face to be related. And Emily, if I could break in. Sure. When we look for keywords in job aggregators to look for announcements for positions in linguistics, we search for linguist. Linguist means different things to different people. So if you're searching for linguist in the government, in the federal government, that's going to mean somebody who is multilingual, somebody who speaks English and an additional language and uses that knowledge in primarily in translation and other means. Linguist means something different in NLP companies and in other types of organizations and industry. So we find across the job sectors that linguist is used with different shades of meaning. So you need to know how it's being used by a particular company and for a particular position. And we can also see that so many as these positions are so generic sounding, right? You see a lot of program coordinator, manager, project associate associate coordinator, manager, all of those different levels of advancement within those tracks in a certain organization that don't tell you anything about what you're going to do, right? So those are titles that you may not think apply to linguists and yet they will link up with a job announcement that will probably or potentially describe a project you might be coordinating that absolutely makes use of your skills as a linguist, perhaps as a sociolinguist, someone who understands how human interaction and conversation. So we're bringing this up now to let you know that you won't be finding jobs by keyword that will access all of the different types of positions that you may be very well suited for. This is again something that we're going to expand on in our career management track as we talk about ways to find jobs within those big aggregators like Indeed and like Idealist which is a job site for nonprofit organizations and higher end organizations. Thanks Emily. And to add to what Alex said about the career management track, I also want to highlight our career panel track because that is a great opportunity to hear from different linguists who will have job titles different from these who work in specific industries and who will be a good resource for answering some of those questions about what does a linguist mean in your industry or your company as well as you know figuring out the space of job titles in that sector. So just to highlight that as a another programming resource that will be coming your way. I'm going to just go quickly over these these next two slides. This is just a snapshot again of this particular career survey that we did to show the variation in the level of degree that people have but please don't walk away from this thinking that if you have a bachelor's degree in linguistics you can't work in non-profit or for an NGO. That is not what this data means. Again this was a very small subset of what people with linguistics degrees do. And you can see the same type of thing when you look at current industries, a wide wide variety of sectors that that people take their linguistics degrees to and that's actually what we're going to unpack in the next section here to start with a little bit about the private sector. Yeah and okay so we have two columns here. On the left we have areas where linguists can and do work. So I'm acquainted with linguists, some of whom have graduated from my program at Georgetown and some of whom are part of all of our personal networks who work in these areas. And then on the right I just have a list of some job titles associated with these areas. And again what you're going to see is that the titles maybe they do include language like language strategist or strategist and linguist but other titles will have far far different keywords associated with them. You may not think that a market researcher might include someone who has training in linguistics but that can be the case. And you can find market researchers doing that type of work across different sectors. You can find them in for-profit and non-for-profit organizations. And just a reminder as we go through here, non-profit organizations are a particular type of tax status. For-profit companies and organizations can definitely be mission driven, can definitely have values that align with yours. So as we think about some of the roadblocks we might have about what organizations might be a good fit for us we can think let's try to keep open minds about different types of organizations and not close off to for-profit organizations. It just takes research to figure out if it's a good fit. And if I could add one thing here Alex about some of these areas. So what we have listed here may look like these are totally distinct areas but they might not be. So for instance healthcare market research is going to be a smaller sub-sector of both healthcare and market research. So that's just something to keep in mind about all of these different areas that we're highlighting. These are not necessarily standalone industries they can combine in in different ways. And I want to add one thing if I may. I'll turn my video on so people can see who's talking. In these areas this is really just a short list and by the end of the four weeks it'll be extending really long. Absolutely this is just a small subset and you'll learn a lot more. So for fear this is restricted at all. Moving into other areas of the private sector consulting training and development human resources talent development and retention in these areas again this is a small subset of some types of careers and titles that you'll find in the private sector. This is a these areas can be associated with job titles such as corporate talent, developer and manager, human resources, diversity, equity and inclusion specialists. In fact tomorrow when we have our first career panel you'll be hearing from one of these human resources specialists who is a DEI consultant, diversity, equity and inclusion consultant who has created her own company. That is Suzanne Wertheim who will be presenting on the career panels, linguists in unexpected places. So join us tomorrow for that panel. Just want to draw your attention also curriculum designer and instructional designer. Hey there's me this is what I used to do I was in corporate talent development and that is from the website of the business that I worked with that provided professional development training to corporate clients in the agricultural, biotechnology and financial services space. So yeah as a linguist I worked in those spaces training executives and managers in relationship management in intercultural perspectives as you see here and in many other custom tailored curricula that I designed and delivered. And there are a number of private organizations that employ linguists just putting that in quotes as a shorthand for what we what we all know and love as people in our linguistics community but they're often called something else as we've noticed. So these companies listed right here these organizations some large some small very well known names in here like Booz Allen Hamilton and Mitre which are government contractors. Ogilvy which is a health care organization. Comcast yes, Comcast employs linguists and you're going to hear from representatives from some of these organizations. Every single one of these organizations have employees several linguists that I personally know and who are known to us in our LCL organizing staff circle and who will soon be part of your professional circles. So again please use this time with us to reach out to some of those linguists who we know over LinkedIn and through messaging so that you can start to get to know linguists in those circles and expand your professional network because that is going to be key to learning about what they actually do at Booz Allen Hamilton at Mitre at Comcast and figuring out wow you know what they do day to day that sounds like what I know how to do from my training in academia they're just using different words for it and part of talking with people about what they do is learning those words it's part of that translation issue it's figuring out how to call what we do in academia say a playback analysis with a recorded sociolinguistic interviewer a semi-structured interview calling that focus grouping so we're going to learn about those different words we can use in different sectors nonprofits so again nonprofits non-exhausted list of ways that you can work with nonprofit organizations and what those job titles might be so we have research translation and communication yeah that's a thing that's a way to be what we call a ling calmer someone who engages in linguistic communication if you were available in April and heard on social media about Gretchen McCulloch's first ling ling ling com conference a conference for people who communicate about linguistics you would have heard about this type of area where people work yes ling com that's what many people in academia make a living doing now is translating linguistic research to general audiences so that it's accessible to people who don't have the specialized jargon that we use within the field that is a growing area and we'll be hearing about people who work in that area later on in our program we have many graduates from Georgetown University who work in these nonprofit organizations so these are just a sample these are just people that I know personally to let you know that yes linguists can work as as ling commerce as a client facing communicators who help other nonprofit organizations craft their brand messaging craft their mission and craft their messages to their stakeholders for example with frameworks institute we have linguists who work in journalism you'll be hearing from one of them later Alexandra Boti who has worked at NPR at PRI and who has a new job in podcasting which is a growing area for linguists as you as you well know we'll be linking out to a number of podcasts and we're happy to have a podcaster here with us as well and also the Center for Applied Linguistics is a way that you can find people who are turning research into application to reach out and help people immigrants refugees and people in K-12 education people who teach languages and we will be hearing from Francesca then uh to Silvio later on from Cal in our applied research panel so stay tuned for that next turn over to Emily yeah so I'm going to pick up here to tell you a little bit about the public sector which means the government at the federal level the state level and the local level that could be city or county level government as well and you know when we talk about jobs outside of academia we sometimes use the cover word of industry which also can sometimes signal to people that we mean something like tech but we're we're generally trying to use that that term in a broader way and one of the the areas for employment for linguists that's in that that alt-axe space and that presents a ton of opportunity as much opportunity as exists in the private sector is the government so you know I know people who for instance have might have very or relatively similar job titles job descriptions things that they work on skills and knowledge that they bring to the role but one person works in the private sector and one person works in the public sector so what we have listed here on on this slide are just a few areas within the government uh where again we know people who personally work so on things like language assessment or training in the intelligence and defense space but this is again by no means an exhaustive list of what people can do in in the government I know somebody with a bachelor's degree in linguistics who works in auditing for the for the who works for the federal government doing auditing not necessarily something that you might think of as a career in linguistics but she you know relies on her linguistics training her linguistics training to do communication in her job and and so again you know a lot of people might think that it's it's sort of just you know just specific organizations in the government that hire linguists and this is where it's worth underlining again that what in particular the federal government means when they say linguist is very different from what the private sector means or what we mean when we talk about linguists so linguists in a in a federal context would be somebody who is a speaker of another language who has been tasked with something like translation or or doing intelligence analysis in that specific language that can be a great job for a linguist if you are also a speaker of another language but that does make it complicated if you're looking for jobs you know so us usa jobs for anybody not familiar with it is the website for federal government employment thank you alex you posted the link in zoom and um when when you are looking for jobs on that website if you are looking for you know uh not the federal government's meaning of linguists you're going to be using some of those different job titles because if you search for linguists that's all you'll get um and i see somebody's made a comment in the chat as well but public sector mostly hires us citizens that is certainly correct um and particularly for federal government agencies in the defense and intelligence space here we're talking about federal jobs that would only hire us citizens but there will be different opportunities at the state level and the local level so that's also part of what we you know what we're trying to get across with this message that government sounds like one big monolithic entity but it definitely is not in terms of the job opportunities are available that are available and we will be actually having a government specific session on i believe thursday july 22nd we haven't quite finalized it yet so it might not appear on the calendar but we should be hearing there from someone who works for a uh a federal contractor from someone who works directly for the federal government and for someone who works for the washington metropolitan area transit authority which for those of you outside the dc area runs public transit in dc maryland and virginia and is a place where you might not have thought a linguist could have a role um but they certainly can so i just want to like highlight can i highlight can i highlight three more uh sessions yes please this is because you do have several sessions focused on government so let's talk about absolutely absolutely and it's a great uh first entry point for many people so you will hear from jenny reddish r e d ish and uh i think next week middle of the week wednesday she's going to talk about uh writing for the web and there are so many ways to take her book and her ideas and put them into use in all sectors jenny has a long experience in relating to government agencies uh second one is uh that i'm aware of a woman named um i'm just i'm losing her name i can say her name sit harrell sit harrell yes c y d is her first name h a r r e l l and she has written a short book which she may make available to us as a e book about civic tech and don't be turned off by the word tech because when you're working in a tech environment you have to call yourselves by the names that the people in that environment will recognize as authentic and authoritative and so uh i definitely recommend hearing what she has to say and i think she's picked out a few skills that many of you have but may not recognize as a hireable skill and the third person i'm thinking of is dana chisnell c h i s n e l l she's just getting her approvals to be able to talk to us and this is her second time working for the u s digital service which is a federal agency that was started during the obama administration and so dana was there during that administration and has come back now with the new administration and she calls herself a general problem solver and she'll talk to us a bunch about one of the problems she's trying to solve now having to do with what are the rules and regulations that the law demands that we do to provide for language access for speakers of other than English language but also how do we provide accessibility for people who may not be literate in their first or second language so lots of things to be interested in there and don't worry if they call it civic tech it's also linguistics so um and one more panel actually to highlight is a panel that alex already mentioned which is the applied research panel so that panel is going to feature one linguist who works at who does research at a nonprofit one linguist who works in the public sector and one linguist who works in the private sector so that will be another panel to check out as well for those of you who are interested in honestly any of the areas that we've talked about here today if you're interested in research and I just want to make one final comment here we've I'm not going to to read out this slide but this is a an example of one thing that you can do if you're interested in finding your way into the federal government particularly again into the intelligence and defense side is to start off doing something like contract rating or contract testing for the fbi this sort of contracting route either through something like this or through working with for a defense contractor like mitre or rand or or booze allen are ways to get started on that government path to get a security clearance and then to transfer or move directly into the public sector and I do want to add one thing here about obtaining a clearance which is that if you are in a state where marijuana is legal you should know that it is not legal at the federal level and it is a disqualifying feature for getting a security clearance so just take note of that things that are legal at the state level but not legal at the federal level are problematic for obtaining a clearance if that is a route that you may want to go and we're getting we're getting close to the end here so I do want to go ahead and and move on to talk about tech a little bit and we have tech here in quotes because tech is enormous and varied you can do technical work at an organization that is not explicitly a technical company you can do non-technical work at organizations that are tech companies so your big tech companies like amazon apple google have people who work there who are not technical because they have a lot of things that need to get done and we are certainly at this moment in time you know at a place where most companies these days have to be tech companies to some degree just because of how the the world works and so what we've listed here are a a huge number of of areas and again this is even just a limited list within within the broader tech sector of of different types of work that people can do some of which are technical in nature so doing things like working on human language technology or natural language processing and understanding are probably going to require some technical skills but there are other areas like user experience and localization and ontology sometimes also called taxonomy sometimes called knowledge management which is just all about sorting sorting and organizing information so we we're going to have several sessions and I'll probably miss some of them but I will mention a few specific ones and then Alex and Nancy can chime in as they remember others so this Thursday July 8th we are going to have a session on human language technology jobs in industry so that'll be a bit of an overview of what what are different titles mean and how technical are they we will have a session how to on July 12th about working in human language technology natural language processing and data science in terms of the types of technical skills that you need to do that I do want to stress that that is not a session to teach you those skills but that is a session to identify what skills do you need to do what type of job in specific companies so that'll be a start for that we are having an nlp panel that will be so natural language processing panel that will be on July 22nd we will have a user experience panel that I think is on July 15th is that right Nancy I think so um we will have I think probably some other panels but we have a lot so we want to help me out if there's more to add to the list well we'll be sending out those daily emails with these types of positions marked for you and we'll also be inviting the linguists who present on these panels to join us in mixers so you'll have a chance to interact directly and actually two more one more panel to flag we are doing an education technology panel as well which is a subset of tech and when Alex mentioned you know working in the private sector but having a mission focus ed tech is one place where you might find that because of course it is focused on on education and then as Alex said keep an eye out for the for the daily emails where we will be highlighting all of these different types of events but the big takeaway here is that working in tech does not necessarily mean that you need to learn how to program it is all going to depend on what is the company that you're at what are the different roles that they have and and you know what value can can you bring there and the answer is a lot of course um and here just to highlight a few companies um so of course you see some of the the the big tech ones here um amazon apple google um we also know linguists who work at at sales force um expert system usa that's my employer i lead a team of what we call knowledge engineers they are not they are all linguists by training but that's not the job title that we use for them because they work on problems of linguistics they work on problems of natural language processing they do not have training in computational linguistics which is a whole other thing about tech that we'll talk about as we go through the program um and but they also do work in things like ontology and taxonomy development so that's why we use this alternate job title and i also want to make a note here um about appen so appen is a a um an employer that provides language data so they hire a lot of contractors to do various types of work around language data things like annotating that language data um in order to provide it to other companies who need that for the products that they're building and that can be a great way to you know get some industry experience on a relatively flexible schedule but it's also important to note about contracting that it does not uh it is not necessarily a path to a full-time job either with the your employer as a contractor or the company that you are providing ultimately providing services for and this is really important in tech because a lot of tech companies rely on contractors to provide various types of information and you are often limited in how you can present that work on your resume so if you for instance are contracted by um through a deco to provide services to google you cannot list google on your resume you have to list a deco by google on your resume because a deco is your actual employer and so for more information about this you know the contracting and consulting space can be a a great place but it's important to understand what that means for you as a as a worker and we are having a panel about that um i believe in the third week of the program we will have a a or maybe the second week it'll be on the schedule um but we are having a program specific to consulting and contracting where linguists who currently do that type of work will be able to talk about their experience and and answer all of those sort of thorny questions about consulting and contracting all right so now what are you feeling overwhelmed it's okay if you are good it it'll all start to make sense this is kind of meant to be an overwhelming dump of information because i really have confidence that over the course of this month some of the terms we've been using and some of the companies and organizations and people that we've been you know name dropping here will become known to you you'll at the end of the conference i have a feeling that there will be people in these organizations that you will be connected with and that you'll have an idea of what they actually do day to day and maybe that you could do that thing too and you know rest assured we're covering all areas of linguistics this is a really big tent program so it's not going to be overly focused on one area of linguistics we have organizations and people coming who represent the the qualitative research methods that some of us are more familiar with so yeah like as an interactional sociolinguist i'll be pointing out those people and making sure that if you you share that background in discourse analysis and an intercultural communication and interaction i'll point out those people that you should connect with as well in those panels so graphic here research develop apply we are going to be going through that throughout our career management sessions and that's something that you'll be doing throughout your life researching developing your documents and applying for jobs you'll be at different stages at different points in your life so moving on to how we're going to do that we're going to talk throughout our career management sessions on how to turn your CV into a resume turning your bullet points and your narratives into what we call star stories we're going to flesh that out for you we're going to assist you in making a linkedin profile so if you don't have one you can get that up start connecting with people in this program and enlarging your professional network that is going to be key to connecting with people outside of academia this is a social professional platform that not many people in academia really use a lot but outside of academia it's going to be your key to connecting with people guaranteed and we'll give you examples of how you can reach out to people on linkedin if you're not comfortable with doing that we'll walk you through that process as part of that that's going to be part of your networking part of enlarging your professional network so we're going to talk about how to build and manage relationships with people who can link you to other people other jobs and other opportunities that's going to be part of the work of this month we're going to mention that it might be a good idea to think about creating a portfolio an online digital portfolio that can showcase some of your projects yes your academic projects but presented in a way that are accessible to people outside of academia that are accessible to to anyone especially employers who may ask to see a portfolio when you're going through the hiring process again don't worry about this now we will flesh out later we're going to talk about how to research these job lists and aggregators that we've thrown out today what kind of keywords may be useful for you to use in your search we're going to talk about how to target specific organizations which you'll need to monitor for their career pages and their social media and we'll have a session on analyzing job announcements for the keywords that you should adopt you should learn as if you're learning another variety of language in order to be able to connect with the hiring managers and employers who wrote that job announcement we have to learn to speak their languages and their varieties in order to show them what we can do for them and we're going to talk about how to tailor your tailor your resume to apply to those jobs so no worries Emily next slide you know every organization needs a language they just don't know it yet and it's our job to tell them and show them what we can do and convince them sometimes absolutely and I just want to point out this is one of my students who uses this quote and I just latch onto it and use it all the time even because it is so true and we have the data to prove that to you and we have the methods so that you can use it to show your value as a linguist and show how you can differentiate yourself position yourself really well for jobs that fit you outside of academia if you choose to follow that route again we are agnostic about your choice of career we just want to give you the information that you might need the tools you might need should you choose to explore these careers outside of academia so you're well positioned as you take your next steps in your career journey this is how you connect with us you know how to get in touch let's open up to any questions and before we start answering questions I I also just want to reinforce what we've said which is that you may have a question that occurs to you later about some of these and as we indicated there are going to be so many sessions that will be great places to continue to ask your questions we have provided you with a bit a bit of a teaser for a lot of the things we'll be talking about over the course of the month let's stop sharing we've added our audience and if any of you feel like you want to unmute or you Rachel if you've seen some questions that have occurred in the chat that we can address just just feel free we really appreciate this audience here today I believe in wait time and while we're waiting for questions to arise let me add build on what you said Emily and Alex and that is many times when you look at a job description it may have 10 or 15 items listed that they want you to have and I'm going to say to each of you don't be too negative with yourself if you only have five of those things it might still be worth exploring that job because you probably have five or 10 others that they forgot to ask for because they don't know what a linguist can bring so the the fact that people are writing job descriptions for people other than linguists isn't our fault yet but the fact that we're not responding to those job postings is our fault go ahead and brave it yes Alex don't be your own gay peep keeper exactly yes and that question about salary you know what we have a we have a session for that that's going to be our answer for almost anything I hope we have a session with Daniel Moglen coming later on I think it's week three rest assured we'll let you know it's going to be about preparing for that first job interview and there's going to be a bit of mock interviewing there there's we're going to go over different types of questions and help you know how you should structure your answers hint it has to do with these star stories and we'll be talking about money let it let's talk and be transparent about money because that we need to do that to let one another know what we can ask for what is out there and how we can research those salaries so we're best positioned to negotiate when we go through that hiring process so yes we will talk money absolutely and there's going to be a session about other kinds of compensation so all of you who have no professors know that professors get a salary and certain benefits if they're full-time people like health care and perhaps retirement account contributions and so on but you don't get a signing bonus by being a faculty member and you don't get stock options and there are a whole bunch of other kinds of compensation that you might want to ask for in private industry and so you should know what you're what we say what money you're leaving on the table if you don't ask for those things and so during the I think the last full day of the meeting the Thursday of the last week the 29th is that we're going to have somebody come in who has been an HR person a human resources person and helped a lot of new graduates figure out what their compensation opportunities are that's my daughter leveraging all of our personal networks here to pull off linguistics career launch yes and I want to draw your attention our program assistant Rachel Lurch is going to drop our link to the session valuation in the chat send that to everybody please Rachel and to get to another question isn't it oh by the way our short name of our program which is what is asked for in our survey is what's called opportunities all right opportunities that's the short name that you'll enter in the session evaluation that Rachel is sending out to all of us right now so we had a we had a couple of other questions in the chat that I think we can knock out how common is it for people to have a lot of the job attributes the answer to that will depend a lot on the organization and the position you know larger organizations that can draw from a bigger talent pool are likely to have applicants who you know do have a lot of those those job requirements that doesn't mean that you shouldn't still apply because again like Nancy said you might be bringing something that they hadn't thought of that is valuable for them but for smaller companies you know where they have a smaller talent pool that they draw from and I am a hiring manager at a smaller company we sometimes get job applications from people who do not meet necessarily have necessarily a lot of the requirements that doesn't disqualify them from the position that's exactly what I would expect when I post a job so again it can just vary a lot based on the company and the role and timing and many different things and let's see we have another question here about remote job opportunities this is actually an interesting question we do not have a specific session about remote opportunities but this is a question that I would encourage you to ask throughout panels and over the course of the program because there are for instance a lot of most consulting and contracting jobs are going to be remote or certainly a lot of them will you know depending on what exactly they need and then of course post pandemic a lot of companies are reevaluating their requirements for people to be in the office so this this is a really good question about remote jobs and again we'll just depend on the company and it's something I would encourage you to ask throughout the program you know recognize too that we're still in flux as we are in various stages of this pandemic and different organizations are managing remote and in office work differently so that is going to be something to check in with different organizations about and to see how they're planning ahead and and know that this is very much in flux so go ahead oh I was I was just going to say I saw I saw one question because we're getting to the end of our time and we should stop how do we find out who will be at office hours look in your launch manual in the section about office hours there is a link to the roster that is going to tell you who will be at office hours and you should continue to check that we are updating both that and the mixer roster as we go through the program and then we'll take this one last question that we have about infer can I go ahead with this question yeah I love that question okay I was wondering how will there be information on how we can compete with those who majored in the field we want to go into e.g. marketing course development non-profit Alex you were so excited to answer tell us I know this question the straight the short answer is you can compete in fact your linguistics training gives you an edge in so many of these fields trust me and also look at the data we will be featuring linguists like alexandra bowtie who not bowtie for the transcription um who is working as a journalist based on her masters in language and communication aka of socio-linguistics from Georgetown and she will let you know straight up that her linguistics training was what set her apart and what has helped her throughout her career in journalism the same with marketing we have many linguists who work in marketing and linguistics training knowledge of human interaction how conversation works that is something that differentiates them and gives them an edge in positioning so themselves for that job rest assured we're going to cover that you don't necessarily have to have that degree name to be able to work in those job types of jobs you just have to know how to talk about your skills and talk about what you can do for that employer what problems you can solve and what you bring to them so that's part of this this you know learning the language of the people you're interacting with in those organizations to tell them how you can be of value so it's we're going to cover that and please keep bringing that question up that's something you can always ask panelists and we'll we'll find that will be a theme running through our months together together