 All right, that sounds way better Welcome everybody, I'd like to call this regular meeting of the city of Santa Cruz planning commission to order Tests we have a roll call, please Mr. Conway here and here Gordon here. Helvey here. Oh, I miss Here Here I'd like to welcome our two new commissioners and ask if there's any statements of disqualification On the items on the agenda tonight Seeing none. We'll move on to oral communications. Welcome everybody. Thank you for coming Oral communications is a time to speak to us about items that are not on the agenda tonight Would anyone like to come speak on some other item? All right, hearing none. I'll close oral communications and move on to the approval of minutes for January 18th, 2024 We have a motion to approve. Oh I did have one comment. There was a Like just one sentence was repeated in the condition of approval. It's just a typo I can dig it up It's pretty obvious. It just repeats the Yeah Yeah I'll move the minutes And I'll second all those in favor of approving the minutes All right, so now we will move on to our one public hearing tonight and Let's go ahead and hear the staff report on that item. Welcome Tim. Nice to see you again. Yeah, likewise Good evening everybody So good evening chair Kennedy and members of the planning commission My name is Tim mayor a senior planner with the city this evening's agenda item is an application for renewal of the existing coastal development Permit to allow for ongoing implementation of the city's oversized vehicle ordinance and safe parking program within the coastal zone Staff requests of the planning commission consider approval of a coastal permit as follow-up to the California Coastal Commission's one-year approval of the existing coastal development permit The proposed action would allow for ongoing implementation of the city's oversized vehicle ordinance or OVO Among other elements the existing regulations prohibit parking city-wide of oversized vehicles or ovs Between the hours of midnight or 12 a.m. And 5 a.m. Also, they prohibit parking of unattached trailers and facilitate the city's safe parking program The actions for the planning commission's consideration this evening also accommodate potential future minor modifications to the city's safe parking program and oversized vehicle regulations including for example Potential revisions to its OV residential parking permit program The proposed actions require approval of a new coastal development permit as required by the existing One-year coastal development permit set to expire on May 11th of 2024 The oversized vehicle ordinance applies citywide Implementation of the ordinance and associated programs are classified generally as development due to their capacity to affect access to the coast Pursuant to the California Coastal Act and they're therefore not exempt from the requirement for a coastal permit In this slide the purple hatched areas show the portions of the land within the city limits of Santa Cruz Which fall within the coastal zone is visible on this map many of the street segments available for public parking shown in blue and green Facilitate access to the coast This map is further divided and the next several slides into three subsections including the far west side lower west side and Wharf Harbor River areas This slide shows the area the far west side of the city which occurs within the coastal zone again shown in purple hatched This area extends north from the coast approximately two miles to lands administered by UC Santa Cruz and includes areas such as natural bridges state beach and Antonella pond Which contain environmentally sensitive habitat area or Eshia which serves as home to approximately a dozen special status species protected on the Federal Endangered Species Act This slide depicts the areas of the lower west side within the coastal zone This area extends from the shore approximately one mile inland and is more heavily urbanized Including residential areas and industrial sites but also includes relatively undeveloped lands such as White House field state beach and narrow Lagoon The part of the city depicted on this slide includes the most extensively urbanized areas includes municipal wharf San Lorenzo River and small craft Harbor Includes areas such as parts of beach flat and the worst you bright For over a decade the city of Santa Cruz has pursued efforts aimed at attempting to mitigate and alleviate the sometimes adverse impacts of long-term parking of oversized vehicles Through the OVO and associated programs the city aims to balance community concerns regarding the effects of long-term Parking of oversized vehicles with the protection of potentially vulnerable individuals including occupants of oversized vehicles who may have limited access to Proper housing staff request to continue implementation of the oversized vehicle ordinance Which among other elements prohibits parking of oversized vehicles as mentioned between the hours of midnight and 5 a.m The proposed actions this evening seek to reduce the impacts of parking of oversized vehicles Which are defined as motor vehicles exceeding 20 feet in length or 8 feet in width and 7 feet in height Along with unattached trailers on city streets the city's oversized vehicle ordinance is codified the city's municipal code primarily in title 10 section 4 but also including municipal code at all 16 chapter 19 section 70 This slide includes an overview of past permitting actions related to implementation of the oversized vehicle ordinance The first version of the OVO was adopted in 2015 since that time Numerous actions have been taken in hearings held which has led to ongoing refinement of regulations leading to this evening's public hearing Documents attached to the staff report which are numerous Provide detailed background information Demonstrating the extensive efforts taken by the city to address the topic of homelessness and entrenchment of oversized vehicles This slide over outlines the achievements made in milestones reached by the city to date in efforts to address homelessness and long-term parking on street of oversized vehicles The city spearheads community engagement through action of a group of full-time staff Dedicated to homelessness response and outreach while staff across all city departments interact in various capacities to address the diverse aspects of services for the unhoused Also, the city's community advisor coalition on homelessness or CACH Composed of a volunteer tax force of community and business partners works to develop homelessness response solutions Another major contribution is development of new housing including affordable housing The city's six cycle housing element was certified on time by the State's Department of Housing and Community Development or HCD The city has exceeded the minimum targets of housing production at all levels of affordability in its regional housing needs allocation arena Mandated by the state the city has earned a HCD pro housing designation Earning the recognition as one of the only 30 jurisdictions statewide to receive that status The city also coordinates with partner agencies and organizations to develop temporary shelter intending to satisfy the demand for the services It includes a number of transitional support of housing developments is listed on this slide Further the city's safe parking program Includes three tiers of progressively intensive support from single night emergency safe parking the 30-day overnight only parking and 24-7 long-term parking with wrap-around or comprehensive services Which provides participants with designated parking spaces available 24 hours a day as well as case management and housing navigation The city additionally collaborates with the Association of Faith Communities or AFC Which operates a safe spaces program that offers people living in their vehicles a place to park Along with access to sanitary facilities and other amenities and their next step toward better housing That program currently serves approximately 40 people housed on faith community sites There's a component of entitlement of coastal development permit that exists The coastal commission stipulated a number of conditions of approval required for permit renewal Following the one-year period of validity of the existing permit This slide lists the conditions of approval of the existing coastal development permit imposed by the California Coastal Commission And the city's actions taken in response to those conditions of approval in 2022 the city of Santa Cruz launched a three-year homelessness response action plan which established a framework for public engagement That promotes enhanced community awareness and understanding of the city's oversized vehicle ordinance which fulfills conditions of approval number three on this slide City staff have prepared an oversized vehicle ordinance signage plan satisfying condition of approval number four Installation of that signage began in November of 2023 and was completed prior to the city's first day of enforcement of the OVO on December 4th of 2023 Signs have been posted of main arteries serving as gateways to city limits and on certain city segments throughout the city which have in the past Experienced high levels of oversized vehicle parking which notifies the public to overnight vehicle parking restrictions and prohibition of parking on Unattached trailers on city streets The city has prepared an OVO operations and management plan meeting condition of approval number five is shown on the slide For condition of approval number six staff has implemented a stakeholder group outreach plan And formed a 10 member stakeholder group with approximately equal representation by members of various unhoused advocates and oversized vehicle parking control advocates Stakeholder group has convened in four separate occasions The staff report prepare for this evening's hearing is expected to fulfill condition of approval number seven is listed here This slide includes the range of oversized vehicle parking permits currently available The permit program provides a variety of permits which allows for parking of OVs including for residents out of town guests Hotel patrons as well as contractors The program also includes a mechanism for issuance of parking permits for oversized vehicles to park on city streets If capacity and safe parking lots has exceeded which is a circumstance that has not yet taken place The coastal permit application under consideration this evening would allow for consideration for Modification of the residential parking permit program to allow for parking by residents of an oversized vehicle on the street Subjected specific criteria to be determined in the future should have proposed modification to the residential parking permit program be pursued This slide pertains information regarding the number of oversized vehicle parking permits and citations for violation of the OVO issue to date as of January 30th 57 parking permits have been issued and 244 citations or parking tickets have been issued Nearly half of those citations have been reduced to warnings as first-time violations with others having been successfully appealed According to information provided by enforcement officers approximately half the citations were issued in the first several days following Initiation of enforcement which began again on December 4th of 2023 The overall trend toward declining citation issuance over time indicates a growing public awareness of the program and increasing compliance with overnight parking restrictions Through anecdotal observations information available to city staff reveals that the OVO and associated safe parking program Implementation have resulted in positive environmental outcomes and public access benefits City staff have received feedback from members of the public including OVO advocates Which participate on the stakeholder outreach group that overall OV entrenchment has diminished and impacts associated with long-term Oversized vehicle stays in areas such as Delaware Avenue where entrenchment was previously common and where sensitive environmental habitat is prevalent have significantly declined These observations represent reasonably Anticipated outcomes of implementation of the city's safe parking program and enforcement of a prohibition on overnight parking of oversized vehicles in the public right away In addition informal accounts from homelessness response fuel crews who regularly patrol areas frequented by the unhoused Including dwellers of oversized vehicles have corroborated anecdotal reports of the success of enforcement efforts Staff has received a range of feedback from members of the public related to the OVO and safe parking program members of the public have offered a number of suggestions and requests Following several Following several general themes These requests include allowance of on-street parking for unattached trailers a Request that neighborhoods be able to opt out of OV prohibitions and request to expand the 24-7 safe parking program The first two suggestions listed here would necessitate official action by the city council for implementation Well, the third suggestion acknowledges the nature of demand for expansion of comprehensive homelessness services But which involves practical difficulties associated with citing of additional suitable 24-7 safe parking Along with acquisition of funding not yet identified to defray the cost associated with an expansion of the city's existing 24-7 safe parking program The proposed coastal permit application conforms to relevant regulations and provides for consistency with goals and policies of the city's local coastal program Reinforcing protection of environmental resources and advancing public health and safety while facilitating ongoing access to the coast The program promote the city's health in all policies or high up objectives promoting equity public health as well sustainability Further the continued implementation of its oversized the city's oversized vehicle programs does not constitute a project under sequel The California Environmental Quality Act and even if it were consider a project would remain exempt via both statutory and categorical exemptions Following preparation the staff report and through consultation with the city attorney's office and staff of the coastal Commission staff have revised Two conditions of approval as listed in the staff report and have include several others in the next several slides As shown on this slide a revision to condition of approval number five Related to minor modifications to implementation of the OVO and safe parking program appears here and in italicized text includes standard language included by The California Coastal Commission, which allows for minor modifications not prompting issuance of new coastal permits In addition of approval number six as included in the staff report Indicates required compliance with the existing coastal development permit and its and its conditions of approval However as that coastal permit will be replaced by the permit under consideration this evening and because many of the conditions of approval of the existing CDP refer to requirements associated with a one-year expiration Initiation of approval number six as shown here has been replaced with the text listed on this slide Which emphasizes ongoing compliance with plans which remain in effect such as the OVO communications and outreach plan Operations and management plan as well as a signage plan The first new Suggested condition of approval which is unnumbered would provide a mechanism for ongoing collection of public feedback Which would be provided to the Coastal Commission staff upon request Allowing for ongoing review of the success of the city's safe parking program Absolutely Just as a quick note Hard copy of these revisions have been provided to the commissioners as a desk item. I'm happy to pause and Go back if necessary Okay The new condition of approval listed here indicates that the application under consideration will remain valid for five years With subsequent review a program success by the planning director and the Coastal Commission executive director More than us. I was just feeling there might be people here in the audience who hadn't Absolutely copy and I'm happy to You know go back and show these slides as well Also feedback received from the stakeholder outreach group of last evening's meeting has additionally informed staff's recommendations Included on the next several slides or recommendations for conditions of approval as suggested by OVO stakeholder group members And this is the first of several This includes a new condition of approval requiring that the city conduct a point in time or pit count on an annual basis That would be a tally of the number of oversized vehicles found parked on city streets The next condition of approval again suggested by the OVO stakeholder Group provides an opportunity for potential enrollees in the safe parking program We provided an opportunity to feed but to provide feedback regarding improvement of the safe parking program and to identify services that would provide assistance to them and the further another condition of approval suggested by the stakeholder outreach group Includes that the city collect qualitative and as feasible quantitative data Which will assist in assessment of the effectiveness of the oversized vehicle ordinance and safe parking program In alleviating the adverse environmental and health and safety impacts of entrenchment of oversized vehicles Staff recommends that the proposed revisions and additions to the conditions of approval compared to those included in the staff report Be considered for approval by the planning Commission for incorporation in the coastal development permit application under consideration this evening Again, I'm happy to Reverse the slides if necessary any commissioners or members of the public would like to review the text No, I think that's Staff have made the findings to support the proposed coastal development permit application with revisions to the conditions of approval as included in the previous several slides and Staff recommends that the planning Commission acknowledge the environmental determination and move to approve the request for the coastal development permit Based upon the findings included in the conditions of approval attached to the staff report with the revisions as noted Staff are available to answer questions related any topic discussed and to provide additional information as needed. Thank you very much This concludes staff presentation Yes, thanks chair Kennedy leave out their director of planning and community development I wanted to make one clarification in response to the presentation and a couple of the slides had maps that were used from the prior version of the Oversize vehicle ordinance which had in it a provision that prohibited Oversize vehicle parking within a hundred feet of intersections to promote Visibility around those intersections. We have removed that and because we recycled those maps in this presentation They popped back up I just wanted to be clear for the members of the Commission and members of the public that that is not a part of The proposal you don't see it in in the conditions of the staff report, but it appeared here So I just wanted to state that so that there isn't any confusion Over there. I feel like I should know this. Can you remind me why the coastal zone goes so far inland? on that map one Sure on the western side. It's it's primarily because that is open space and sensitive habitat is Is a large part of that area? Part of our green belt if I remember right that's correct more so than like being a certain number of feet from the shoreline Okay, right. Yeah, it varies actually up and down the coast it varies substantially between urbanized areas and non-urbanized areas You know in big surf for example, it can be all the way up to the first ridgeline So the distance varies considerably As you can see here, which doesn't apply anymore, but just to be clear, okay So then I just it's kind of a question, but I want to point out that Some of those new clarified some of those new conditions He'm out of a public meeting that was held last night I just want to say that because we're in this crazy pace to hear from everybody and keep everything moving Excuse me We're in this crazy pace to hear from everybody and also keep this moving. So I just wanted to acknowledge that and That's why we're seeing up here on paper for the first time Other questions from the Commission for staff Is there in tier three the 24 7 is it 24 7 something or is it 24 7 forever? I couldn't get the actual language of the ordinance from the PDFs that were posted so I'm just wondering if there's a Come on up I think any one of us could handle that but Larry is our homelessness response manager Larry and Wally Good evening commissioners Larry and Wally homelessness response manager for the city of Santa Cruz The tier three program is a 24 7 program That is minimally six months For participants that involves case management housing navigation as part of the program. There are extensions possible Through conversation with the case managers, so there could be two extensions up to a full year for participants But it's not in perpetuity for each individual And then secondly Does anyone know if there is still an RV dump station at the harbor there used to be one in the lower harbor and Then I think I saw documentation. There's one in the lower in the upper harbor Lieutenant Carter Jones, I oversee that homelessness response team and OVO stuff from law enforcement side We actually checked in with the harbor to see if that could be a potential dumping station it is small and outdated and so they're barely making that work in the harbor for Boats and stuff let alone us being able to use it for RV access Okay, it's just struck me that it's such a Marginal additional use that that might be a possibility. I'm not sure if it's a if it's a tank that gets emptied or whether they've devised some easy septic system next to the harbor or Yeah, I don't know that I do think that there's Discussion in a lot of the documents about trying to get the county to participate in this process and that seems like it would be a very no minimal Investment on their part to try to expand that Thank you. I just had a quick question about the condition the new conditions of approval So we revised five and six and it looks like the first new one if we're following the order here would be 10 Yes, that's kind of what we're thinking. Yeah provision for mechanism of feedback. That would be 10 11 12 so on so forth Are those already considered to be added or do we have to make a motion to add them or are they considered? Pretty much already in there They would be brand-new conditions of approval. So there need to be a motion made. Okay. Thank you It would it they are part of staff recommendation So if you're moving stack for staff recommendation, they would be inherently included but you know for clarification purposes you can certainly include that and While you're asking about those I think one thing that I'd like to highlight about these is these were not a expressly identified as these should be conditions as part of the discussion in the meeting last night I just want to be clear they stemmed from issues that we heard so for example, we heard that There was a desire to have a better understanding of the impacts to the individuals and how we can help the individuals move into improve living situations and so we included conditions like this that We are already doing some of these things like asking what type of services may be beneficial to those individuals upon intake or And we've got a feedback mechanism for how to provide Recommendations to the city on how things could be improved. But this really Acknowledges that and formalizes it so that it will continue on an ongoing basis and it also In the second part here allows for that stakeholder group as we are finding value from it and you know even last night Immediately before this meeting fourth meeting we're still getting good information and through that we would continue to have those conversations with individuals who are both supportive of the Oversize Vehicle Ordnance and opposed to the Oversize Vehicle Ordnance and then we can make modifications to the permit as Tim discussed over time in order to respond to those Awesome, and then just to one more just to clarify and so staff is recommending all of these some of them came out of the stakeholder group Some of them are just problems that you think need to be addressed. That's correct. We are always recommending. Yes indeed. Thank you That's a good clarification that they're the process. It just finished last night Rather than frantically typing them at the last minute Yeah, thank you And thank you for the report. It is a lot And the other thing I have to say having watched this over it seems like a lot of years It is getting better. It is really a lot better I think in terms of what it's providing and more robust and and that kind of thing and I Think that it shows some determination to continue to make it better, and I'm glad to see that I did have a couple of questions and around Funding for staffing and also around the pit count So one of the question is I'm glad to see that there's a pit count happening And I'm wondering there was some indication that the standards are they are there? Are you using the HUD rules on those standards? Is it being carried out? We've got this huge extensive Really a lot of work method that is has one goal This seems like it's different than that and I'm just wondering Who's conducting the pit count? How is it being done? and You know who's overseeing it sure I'm happy to speak to that and then I'll welcome anyone else that would like to add more so we have conducted one pit count of oversized vehicles and We did not follow the standard methodology the standard methodology When I've been out to do the pit count just identifies whether or not people are residing in their vehicles It doesn't distinguish between a Regular-sized vehicle and an oversized vehicle so we sought to To send teams of two individuals out to drive every single street in the city and then We marked on our worksheet whether or not there was an oversized vehicle. We identified whether it was a Unattached trailer which are also prohibited by the ordinance And we also marked it's it's hard to tell whether someone is residing in a vehicle or not But you know, we we made a best guess based on the appearance of the vehicle oftentimes You know windows that we fogged early in the morning, which is a good indicator and so we did that We don't have a we haven't had an opportunity to do a follow-up So, you know one point in time count is not particularly useful in that it doesn't show a trend or a pattern, but we were able to do that in advance of the Implementation of the oversized vehicle ordinance and so what we're trying to do is break it down so that we can Have a little bit more information than and certainly more information than what we would do during the typical Point-in-time count because we're focused on oversized vehicles So we we did not go out and measure That would have been quite labor intensive, but we did have a category of Definitely an oversized vehicle, you know some are very clear 30 feet long and then we had you know Well, we're not sure we're gonna have it as a suspected oversized view and so The thought is that we would do that Overtime And we've got in here that we would be doing it at least once a year so that we can Provide so that we can have additional data to inform both the safe parking program as well as the future implementation of the oversized vehicle ordinance All right, so you'll have some over time. You'll be able to watch some changes And who's participating in the pit count? It was all city staff the last time so I think Gavin I don't know that you were there, but the rest of Larry was there Susie was there Just some of the folks in the audience myself Lisa Murphy our deputy city manager and so And we had several members of our outreach our homelessness response outreach team who participated So we broke up the city and groups. I know we spent three hours doing it. It's Driving it was like driving to Sacramento And So and thank you for that because I know it's a big effort to do it and I do see that there's some value and you know collecting data over time and And I just wondered if you were doing what? You know the CLC recommends which is having a person who's experiencing homelessness participate And that's which I think has a lot of value also Not that easy to do. I appreciate that So it's also as far as the other the rest of the data collections. That's also that's your Department is doing it or who's who's collecting that data? So there was another condition of approval regarding data collection and one of the things that we Would be helpful one of the things that we have Observed specifically we have a team that does The cleanup of Areas and they've got routes where you know, they know there are hot spots and then they go and do cleanups That team has indicated that there has been a substantial reduction in Trash and refuse removal in the vicinity of Antonella pond on Delaware and natural bridges and of course, you know, that's Got sensitive habitat out there as Tim mentioned 12 special status species of one sort or another and so That is an area of concern when it comes to Environmentally sensitive habitat that that could be affected by substantial amounts of litter and refuse and so we are Looking to see how we can quantifiably And how we can quantify that and so public works to get to your question public works That field crew resides in public works and they do that Not pick up and they're they're counting the number of bags that they they pick up. It's it's more challenging for them to Get the specific weight because they're hitting a lot of different spots But they're able to count the number of bags that they're collecting and so I think you know We'll look at how we can refine that based on the data that we're getting But certainly, you know, the qualitative analysis thus far has been that a Lot less trash a lot you were Large items like like couches and chairs and things and so from that perspective there has been significant benefit from Waste reduction that is improperly disposed of Okay, sorry about all the questions I have one more For now, which is about funding for the supportive services programs These are is it it's city programs that are for city funding that's going to the The free guide and the AFC all the different programs That's that's correct. So in next year's proposed budget assuming that this is Ultimately approved in next year's proposed budget. We have I believe it's five hundred and seventy thousand dollars proposed to Primarily go to the twenty four seven, but also to support the overnight only safe parking and then you mentioned the AFC that's actually separately funded through the core process and so We provide funding to core that is funneled through the county and then the county combines that money And then the county contracts with the county contracts directly with AFC Yeah, I understand that the funding is really complicated and there's a there's a lot of streams coming in and It isn't always up to the city about what gets funded Especially if you're tapping into any of the HUD funding Any state programs, so it's kind of it's kind of complicated But my question was really about I guess what was driving it is just a concern that there's Steady funding and adequate funding to make sure that the program can be you know successful people can be successful I couldn't agree more You know that is certainly a real challenge because you know that's a significant amount of money and I will say that Particularly when it comes to the twenty four seven There are good outcomes, right and and the costs that we are putting towards 24-7 program is yielding good outcomes for for the money that we're spending so you know, we're hopeful that we'll be able to continue that but you know, there are always budget challenges and so we we make proposals and Sometimes things have to be reduced and you know in this instance we are Anticipating, you know, we're making that request. It's the council's ultimate decision as to whether or not they're they're funding programs and Any other questions Mine is kind of like a big one. It's I Got a lot of public meetings I haven't been to many on this issue and I recognize concern about that being a rich process and I see Tons of really good documentation of this But I wanted to ask like in your opinion as I've been a really good back-and-forth Process with everyone being heard I can't I can't say compare it to something else because it's super unique this whole thing that we're working on But what do you think what's your gut? Like I don't want to hear about four meetings But do you feel like communication is happening or is it kind of rough or what's your feeling about it? so The stakeholder meetings, I do think there's value in the stakeholder meetings you know, there are diverse opinions at those stakeholder meetings and intentionally so right there are five members who are supportive and five members who are not and so you know that That does It can't present tension but I think it's been respectful throughout the process and We We've gotten a lot of good feedback from the Individuals and appreciate appreciate their participation. There are a number of them in the audience here who participated as well as Staff members here, you know, have all participated at one point or another in those meetings There have also been I Should have counted this but I believe it's been about eight public hearings At this point and so There have been a lot of members of the public who have written in less who have Called in and spoken but still substantial numbers of people that Participated through those public hearing processes Starting with the city council and then back through the zoning administrator and planning commission and city council and coastal commission Yeah, there have been a lot of hearings That's the answer I was expecting but I just wanted to phrase it that way because you know tall buildings are one thing But this is some really tough communication on these. I mean in my experience in our community These are hard things to work on So then my last question is more like kind of technical You know this Dance with the coastal commission We have conditions of approval and all this but we also want to be responsive and change You know as we get more data and learn So could you like explain to them layman like when it reaches the point where you have to go back and ask permission again and re-trigger that process I know that's kind of hard and there's a lot of very complicated technical conditions, but I just I want to be responsive, but I also know we have to follow those rules So Can you speak to that? Sure. So the way the latest condition is worded it would Assuming we It's approved tonight We would have the oversized vehicle ordinance in In effect in the coastal zone for five years at that time we would be providing a report to the coastal commission and They would actually have the authority to extend the permit or to Have us need to go back through another either modification or a new coastal permit They could are kind of communicating at the staff level Yes, about that and saying hey would this be okay and getting recommendations and any modifications There's a separate condition in there that says any modifications for example The commission when we were there brought up a residential parking And that residential parking permit was something that we discussed with the stakeholder group. It's something that we heard I believe we had About eight or so complaints come in from people who have oversized vehicles as their daily driver But may not have a place where they can park that vehicle and so We included in here the anticipated approach that you know, we might have a change such as that and We haven't gone through all of those criteria yet to dial them in Specifically, but changes like that we could in that particular one. We would need to adopt an ordinance through the city council to allow for that new type of parking permit and In doing so we would be coordinating with the coastal commission to make sure That we're not doing something that is going to create concerns from their perspective about impacts to coastal resources Great well said those are my questions Good if there's no more questions We'll um open up the public hearing you hear from the public Next so I just want to show a hands how many folks are here and want to speak with us Um, all right seeing that let's do three minutes for each speaker Before we open up the mic and we do want to hear from you all I just wanted to clarify that we did have some last minute emails coming in There was one that got a very thorough staff response that came in today or the response came in today And several other late breaking ones So again, I just wanted to acknowledge staff's effort in providing these really quick, you know as as things were coming in Even up to emails received today Um, so I wanted to point that out that we have all these did everyone get a chance to see those in in page through Well, I want to make sure that all that public comment was received Um, great. So come on up. I think everyone knows the rules if you don't mind put your name in the uh log over there that way tests can spell your name correctly And um come on up or like do we have to say? Hello, um Here we are again. My name is reggie misler. I'm a member of santa cruz cares I attended the first two stakeholder meetings um And I think since it's been like two years since we've talked about this issue locally So I think it's important to kind of reorient again to like what we're really talking about here Because whenever we bring up ovo, it seems like we talk about Safe parking at the same time But ovo does not define does not create does not regulate does not fund safe parking Safe parking was created before ovo was even put forward And so if we get rid of ovo, we do not lose safe parking Uh, though the city staff may suggest That because depot park, which is technically tier two Is in the coastal zone That that is why we might need a permit for safe parking But the truth is is that The act of just not ticketing people for parking somewhere overnight Is not a coastal program Like it's just not doing a thing, right? So you don't need a permit program to let someone park Somewhere overnight without ticketing them And I also want to note that santa cruz cares Did three different point in time counts And we told city staff we were doing them in stakeholder meetings And yet no one seems to know about this So I think that kind of goes to show that That that lack of collaboration was kind of rooted from the beginning of this process And finally, let me just sum up what the primary Coastal access issue for you is going to be here Which is that When the coastal commission Forced the city to remove daytime parking restrictions This was not something the city just opted to do The aclu found that daytime parking restrictions in the original ovo Resulted in over 53 percent Of public parking in the coastal zone being unusable by oversized vehicles And so they considered that a public access issue Well based on testimonies from proponents of ovo as well as evidence we've collected from our point in time counts It is clear that the enforcement of ovo Has resulted in over 90 or 70 to 90 percent Of oversized vehicles no longer parking in coastal areas During the day Which demonstrates a greater public access threat Than the original daytime parking restrictions posed So that's the situation that you guys are going to deal with If you try to pass this and then we appeal it up to the coastal commission Thank you I am joy schendl-decker. Um, I'm also a member of santa cruz cares And um, it's I'm really thank you for your work and I appreciate seeing some of the additions to the proposal because some of those were Along the lines of things that I would suggest first let me just say I am still opposed to ovo and tying Services to any sort of policing of communities. I believe those are separate issues and we I think the the city showed that One could stand up effective programs that can be scaled up and work with community groups In the time before ovo was enforced So I think framing is really important in this another framing issue that strikes me is that um With all due respect to the sort of verbiage that's common Preventing entrenchment The inverse of that is forced itinerancy And so we are seeing a kind of forced itinerance See even with the services that we have it's in fact baked into some of our services um One thing that the aclu Stakeholder brought up and I had brought up a bit too. I was able to attend two stakeholder meetings, which I found really helpful and productive in some ways The data that I'm interested in of course as somebody who's like really interested in environmental issues and climate justice I'm concerned also with pollution um And plastics in our environment and toxins But I'm more interested in the data collection of the people who are not Being served by the safe parking programs We think that about 60 vehicles have basically disappeared From the radar We don't know We we we surmise that they're in the neighborhoods They've they're you know relocating and they haven't left the city because we have found a similar number of Vehicles overall But we don't know who is where And we don't know what the effects on them are because we haven't talked to them. We haven't gathered the data and This was something that the aclu stakeholder was bringing up too We just don't know and in the report You'll see repeatedly that there's anecdotal evidence That we think we know what's happening and in the stakeholder meetings too um outreach workers Think that they know where people are going or at least some people are going during the day when they're not in the Overnight safe parking. Some of them are paying To stay there and some of them are going, you know, who knows where so that's I took too long saying those points. So I just the one last point that I want to bring up You get me started Is that I would like I would recommend that that it's only a one year Renewal because I think two months of this program being in effect and the stakeholder meetings Just getting to the point where we can productively talk to each other I would say a one-year renewal and four stakeholder meetings would be Much more comfortable for me in terms of accountability Transparency and building what can be really productive Conversations between people who have been fighting bitterly over this issue. Thank you so much. Thanks Good evening. My name is Jasmine Mia and I'm also a member of Santa Cruz Cares I urge you to deny the coastal development permit for the oversized vehicle ordinance Santa Cruz Cares has already provided arguments that the ovo has reduced coastal access As evidenced by less RVs on Delaware even in the day And has been done with discriminatory enforcement again by impacting mostly the Delaware area I also want to echo that safe parking and services are separate from the ovo Meaning we don't need the ovo to offer services I want to focus on what message the ovo sends to our community I have heard from unhoused people that they feel unfairly targeted with this ordinance and I would have to agree We even heard tonight that a proposed revision of ovo includes a modification for residents Thus, it seems pretty clear that the ovo was written mainly to deter people from living on the streets In fact, I saw in the public correspondence a plea to restrict parking of any sized vehicles overnight Do you see how ovo can set a precedent of banning unhoused people who sleep in their vehicles period? And what does that say about how we show care in our community? Many unhoused members were born here or have lived here for a long time Some are students and many work We all know rents are astronomical here with Santa Cruz being one of the highest rental markets in the whole country So if people need to live in their vehicles, please let them Space rent at RV parks is unreasonably high and so people can't always afford that I want to live in a society where we have a safety net for people who can't earn enough money to meet their basic needs That's also a principle of disability justice. Not everyone can earn a wage that will let them live So please join me in working towards creating that society with decisions like this by denying this coastal development permit. Thank you Thank you All right, would anyone else like to speak to this issue? All right with that. I'll I'll close the public comment period and Bring the item back up to the commission for a motion further discussion Here what's on everyone's minds I'll just reiterate that I think it would be great if some of the logistical issues that would make the program more successful like the A dump site that could be easily and perhaps freely accessible to people living in RVs Could be Worked into the discussions with the county. I think that there are probably More than one location where that might be able to be launched and I think Some of the that's not the only logistical issue obviously, but I think that It would be great to try to Get them participating in this in a way that maybe they're not now to address Sorry your name Joyce mentioning A one year since we've been doing this for a couple months and We have limited information, but some Where I guess I'm curious where the five year came from like as a as a So let me start that by addressing the one year I think there were 38 attachments to this report Somewhere on the order, you know well over a thousand pages. I believe a haul in total And you know the the staff report itself was what 20 pages? There is a substantial amount of work that goes into this this a hearing like this and When the coastal commission Approved a single year I did have concerns because particularly the way they approved it requiring Pre-approval of a number of plans And then we'd had we have a lead time on you know, manufacturer of signage after those plans are approved and so forth You know, we knew that we were going to be in a crunched time frame the so so One year happens very very fast and there's a lot of work that would need to go into A renewal after one year So then it becomes, you know, all right. Well, what is a reasonable time frame? and when we've Got a program that is In which any changes are being reviewed by the coastal commission to ensure that they are not creating coastal impacts then We should be in a place where we are not creating impacts because of those changes so The five years essentially came from coordination with the coastal commission to understand What is a reasonable time frame for review? What Would allow for implementation for a significant period of time that Allows us to study the effects and provide that that feedback and then Have the opportunity for that to be continued if there are not Coastal resource impacts. So that's that's essentially how We were contemplating an in coordination with the coastal commission to understand What Would allow for a Return on the significant investment that the city has made But also provide checks and balances So that if there are issues there will be an opportunity to address them sure And thanks for that answer and I really do appreciate how The incredible amount of work it is, you know for you guys too We've done a lot of reading I'm kidding. I know it's a lot of work on the other hand I think the points that a couple of people who spoke brought up are really good points the The fact that everybody is saying you've been having stakeholder meetings with people with really different very strong feelings And that you're reporting that they're productive that the The program is getting better And I I think it's getting better because of engagement and some some really solid effort Obviously city staff is working hard to make it better And it's you know Housed people in neighborhoods I think are feeling like it's getting better and we're making progress And so I guess to follow Timory's point I think is that having some pressure I don't think it should be every year and I don't necessarily think it should be shorter than five years But I like the idea that there's ongoing reporting about it Without having to come as a whole big agenda packet. I would love to know that there's Some opportunity to report out on it. Maybe it shows up in some of the regular Work that the homeless team is working on Um, but I like that idea because I think talking together is going to continue to make it better All right, nice who said I have like a general comment, but I feel like we should get a motion I'll talk a little bit more than fine. Uh, this is a huge one for me. I mean my Data point on this is related to my own life And it's going to the homeless garden project which I've supported like Since I was a kid and taking my kids who are three and Eat out there to get our farm box, you know when it's farm season And so just seeing that through the year is kind of how that Neighborhood with everyone living there has kind of risen and fallen and I have to say I had Not super high hopes of this working that quickly, but my little path out there on Delaware Seems to really be working acknowledging. I'm not seeing the whole city or where anyone went, but um I just want to say bravo. I mean this is like all the city departments working together on something super darn hard So, you know, it's not perfect yet, but keep it up and Like they think the volume of pages is kind of the proxy for how much work energy and heart has gone into this so I really salute that and um Yeah, I mean my opinion is we should move this ahead and keep working on it and keep perfecting it and keep having this hard conversations, but um It was it stirred me to like just walk down Delaware yesterday and be like, oh my gosh, you know, this is way better And I don't know I have my little viewpoint on the world Which certainly has its own blinders, but I hope it's better for everyone out there and hope it keeps getting better for everyone So that's what I have to say Thank you. Um, I just had a question. Um, is there anything I don't remember seeing this But is there anything baked into just the general ovo process about reporting back to council on ongoing progress or Data or anything like that So I don't think there's something specifically in the oversized vehicle ordinance. However, we have done regular homelessness response updates and We have also provided regular updates so far this year with respect to the oversized vehicle ordinance implementation both Internally as well as to some of our partners like the county for example um, some of the folks some of the team members here could speak to the regularity of the homelessness response reports and the the ovo specific reports if you'd like How often we're going to council these days On that I think that's once a year now Good evening and commissioners Yes, um, we had been in a quarterly cycle initially with our general updates on homelessness response to the council But as we've been implementing our homeless response action plan and doing it with that kind of periodicity Our reports now are a little more infrequent whether it's once or twice a year in terms of formal presentations to the council What we are doing on an ongoing basis is having a twice a month communication internally Updating on all our division's activities to the council and it always includes progress with the Related to safe parking and implementation of the oversized vehicle ordinance We've also done Community meetings so back. I think was september 13th or 16th. We did a community webinar Folks where we're giving an update about where we are with our homeless response action plan And detail the progress and status of the implementation of the safe parking programs Great and um, I believe I read in the staff report. There is a subcommittee for Yo-yo on council. Yes, there is a council subcommittee. It's um, vice mayor golder council member calentary johnson and council member Brunner okay Okay, great We we do coordinate with them on A regular basis to give them updates on our progress and convene them from time to time as well particularly as Any significant milestones are coming right? No, I mean it sounds great. I think by annual progress reports and ongoing communication with the subcommittees For me, I think that's okay. I don't know how other people feel about reporting out. I think that's a lot So Thank you Was the safe parking program prior to ovio was that institutionally supported by any kind of City added infrastructure Um Port of potty's waste facilities anything like that I'm only asking because it seems to me my kind of memory going through the following this process is that This is like the first time the city has Affirmatively taken a step to allow people to camp to be on the to live in vehicles on the street it's always been a It's always been a ban before that and I'm not sure if that's technically correct, but I'd be curious to know Thank you for the question. I can speak to how we've implemented the safe parking programs So um as as you know from the the information of the staff report and this whole process There's a three-tier safe parking three tiered safe parking program that's been implemented The tier two overnight Has a hygiene and sanitation infrastructure already to the sites Uh the program started it was either the last week of february or march 1st of 2022 So about a year and a half Or more prior to the actual Implementation and enforcement of the oversized vehicle ordinance The tier three program, which is the 24 seven program with staffing including case management housing navigation Began in august of 2022. So again, you know a year plus before the implementation of the program So those were in place well before this ordinance And again the tier three as well has the hygiene and sanitation infrastructure as well as the services and staffing to support Yeah, I was actually trying to distinguish between Safe parking which I I believe did exist before ovio was a gleam in anyone's eye And whether there were institutional supports for that Because that was mostly on private property. Am I correct? Yeah? Yeah, I was not right. I'm sorry. Yeah, so we had in our ordinance a provision that allowed for I believe it was three Vehicles to park on religious assembly sites, right and I believe it was two Excuse me one vehicle on a business site um, and we increased that in 2022 early Especially was 2021 actually 2021. Thank you. Yes. So We we increased that to allow for up to six vehicles on religious assembly use sites and I believe it's three vehicles on a commercial business site Those require no permits So they can just go and do it as long as They are not creating any impacts with respect to nuisance issues or sanitation So in that respect the city code has supported that type of activity And I'll note when we made those changes and increases we also allowed for expanded abilities for individuals to reside in a recreational vehicle on private property like in someone's driveway For example, so we expanded that So the city has supported those efforts in that manner I I also want to get directly to your question about Other supports and porta potties and such We were providing afc With spaces in the lot behind wheel works Gavin would be able to tell you the lot number for that We we allowed for it there and We um Had both the offered that offered the spaces free of charge and we paid for the porta potty servicing um I do not know if we were providing direct support in terms of monetary contributions to afc before that I don't believe that we were but I cannot I'm just trying to get to the point that off street those were off street. Yeah to me It's a fundamental difference between not enforcing and you know Not allowing people to be anywhere and now actively providing designated spaces services support Uh to me that's categorically different and it's a step that we have not taken before and I think that's That is that is correct. Yeah the Scale of what we had allowed was not something that we were doing and it was just one lot I think it was a couple of vehicles that were there at the time during the pandemic And there was another comment made about um the ovo reducing coastal access and i'm just I think I understand what was being said but but the idea I think Is that ovo allows coastal access for more people for different people the the public that's coming to visit town That's coming to you know, not necessarily be Staying here as as residents, but I I'm not sure that that's where it was going um I think I'll just leave it there, but um, thank you very much John I just want to acknowledge that line of thinking like I've served here for many years And it feels like for 20 years. I've been talking about a pump out station on the west side Like literally since I was on the public works. Yeah So like with love and respect for the city like We never wanted to allow parking lot parking. We did that we're over it. I mean I don't want the pump out station next to my house, but it sure would be nice to get that done At some point. I I really felt The testimony of the people talking about how hard it was to like I don't want to drive You know back and forth that many times So the the root of that pump out thing I know it's very hard, but it has not been solved and it's still just there But this gives me hope like we've changed in the last 10 years a lot. So that's good. We should keep it up Mike Okay, I'm gonna move uh that we or I'm sorry I'm gonna move the staff recommendation based on the findings and the conditions of approval inclusive of our revisions and Five new conditions of approval. Do you have a second? I'll second All right any further discussion I just wanted to mention that I do support john's Pump station idea and trying to find out how the county can pay for it if it is going to be in the city So I just want to make that distinction But I I do Have sensitivity about having to drive into the county and out of the city and what that entails in order to do that so but I do support Continued effort to try and find a way to solve that And just I can just clarify something. I'm just trying to get to the point that the People are having trouble with the housing All over it's not just in the city. It's not just on the west side I'm I'm just saying that it would be great if there could be more than one it doesn't have to be one But you know if over at the The bus depot, you know, there are probably Infrastructure oriented sites where we could try to incorporate something that might be a you know an added service Also before we adjourn the meeting I'd like to welcome Or to a new commission members our next item is a nomination of chair persons Right. We can have more speech. Thanks very much I'd like to also just note And also follow up on some of what the members of the public were saying. First of all, it is such a relief That we are providing places to park And you know in my mind there should be absolutely adequate Place that everybody should know where they can safely park And have access to basic facilities shouldn't be complicated You know, and I I think it is the we I can't say enough about how important The safe parking programs should be Um, I wish they were simpler. I wish that there were more of them I wish there was more space for them. Why aren't there more parking lots? But one thing I I do disagree that With one comment that I don't I think the ovo And safe parking are both important And the ovo provides a way to enforce and make the community feel to address a whole bunch of needs And I hope that there's opportunity for it to continue to evolve Some of the points that were made up through That people were brought up through letters like the boat, for instance, not being able to park a boat on the street And just all of the I think it should be Continuing to evolve and there's going to be ongoing stakeholder meetings And the idea of those in my mind should be that this program Keeps on getting better Because I I do think that that's really important And Also, I just Think I love all of the pictographic You know explanations of what's going on with services. It's a lot easier to understand and you know, a million pages of text. Nice job But I also feel like Um There should be public discussion about what's going on here because one of the things I think people don't understand Speaking only for my neighborhood, which has a lot of nice people in it. Um, but I don't think there's any Passing thought about what it means to call to get um, you know Someone who's living in a van not even an ovo Who's you know parked in the neighborhood What it means to come and have that car towed You know or that van towed and what it means in terms of cost and disruption And um, I don't I mean, I think the person who made that call I don't I don't want to diminish their inconvenience Of of having a vehicle parked on the street But I do think there's a lack of understanding of what the impact is and so public outreach and public participation and Some you know information about what's going on and just really take a minute and say, yeah, we have we have safe parking It's not enough It's not good enough. I hope it keeps on getting better But I I just want people to understand that that it's the whole community that's involved in addressing this And that's all of the burden shouldn't be on People who are on house who already have it hard enough That's my thought Well, I just say let's remind coastal about our housing success. I love saying that on the slide there I think that's really helping long term too Not immediately that long term I'm good with that. I'd like to call for a vote Mr. Conway I Dan Gordon Yes, the kelvin Yes Paul Hamas Yes Thompson Yes Kennedy Yes So the motion passes unanimously with all commissioners in favor Thank you So now we'll move on to our general business our next item is uh Nomination and election of the chairperson and vice chairperson Before we dive into that I brought a little exhibit. I don't know if tests can pop that up onto the big screen for us or tim Yeah So a year ago I was appointed chair in zoom and then we had our first in-person meeting So I prepared this little exhibit about how much like housing we're going to build or approve this year not build approved this year So a lot of you actually weren't here a year ago, which is interesting, but uh, that's where we started the year 219 units next slide That's where we ended the year So I love this, you know, this is not about quantity. It's about quality But particularly like receiving this criticism about not building enough affordable housing Over and over and over again and having election after election We just approved us up here 29 percent affordable last year and we're down for our last greener cycle, which was 53 percent so I don't know when I see that I say let's continue our successes. We've done one third of downtown. We just Crushed it on the middle section talk about affordable housing Triumphs for the city of our size give me a break. Let's have a parade And let's keep it up and finish off that next third. It should be easy And if we can hit 30 percent and like approve this much Roughly for seven years and then throw in something that we never see You know that just goes straight through the zoning administrator. We never see them We could build that rena goal, you know if we just keep doing that So there's more at stake here like the global economy and things like that But I just want to present that that makes me really proud and I added the the planning department too because it's not just us It's it's all of you too So I just wanted to share that before we have nominations for a new chair. Nice. Yeah It's next week's power point gonna be Who's gonna be the next chair? Let's see if they can pass that goal Can I nominate uh commissioner conway? I'd be happy to second that nomination All those in favor of commissioner conway I I Do you have a nomination for vice chair? I'd like to nominate commissioner pohamas second that All those in favor of uh commissioner pohamas as vice chair I Great with that. We have a new chair and a new vice chair Let me know if I can help I think you got it, but um how exciting So, yeah, welcome to our new Um commissioners. We're excited to have you. I totally feel like we have the dream team and uh, we could just approve projects But if anyone wants to do subcommittees or I mean, I'm thinking of the architectural talents sitting around here and I mean like maybe we can have material boards at the planning commission We're supposed to moving forward. I don't They just can't mean anything or be decided Pete thanks for all your hard work. Yeah, thanks for doing doing the hard It's not an easy year We had a lot. We had 18 meetings, you know, it was a busy year Oh, we did the transit part too. We did the rail trail, you know the parking and bike stuff That's 70 of our carbon footprint. So All right, I'll stop. Um any other information items? How are we looking on the schedule? Yes, thank you. Um, and um, I just Want to start by one welcoming the new commissioners and to Plotting the work of the commission over the the last year as you were highlighting here There were some challenging meetings. Um, but we got a lot done I didn't realize we had 18 meetings But you know, that is a very regular schedule and When you all are busy, uh, it's a good thing. It means, you know, we're getting housing built and we're helping businesses open And we're bringing investment into the community. So thank you for your Volunteering to be a part of that and the value that you bring to that um All right Next speaking of uh bringing uh businesses into the community. Um At our next planning commission meeting on the 15th two weeks from now. We have the cruise hotel scheduled That's the northeast corner of Laurel and front We anticipate having uh Anabas retailer use permit at the former emily's bakery on march 7th coming before you and then Coming soon thereafter or some point in march likely Is the outdoor dining on private property? that we would be changes um Upcoming at city council some things that you would be interested in The 900 high street project the 40 units behind peace united church that was appealed And we have that going to our february 13th meeting Of the city council. We also have on that meeting a legislative update So annually we aim to update the city council on the new legislation that took effect That year from the prior legislative cycle and so excuse me. That was the 13th. That's correct. Yes um, so, um, you know, we Will focus on things that are likely to have the the biggest effect here in sanikers and I'm sure We'll all be talking about those bills more as the year progresses, but it's good to get a head start on those There are lots of sites where you can usually law firms that are providing summaries and will be attaching one of those law firm summaries As well as providing some of our local context in the staff report So I encourage you to take a look at that or just google it. You can you can get all the housing laws from the last year on a lot of those sites I wanted to give you a heads up We did you all at your last meeting approved the food bin project and we did receive two appeals for that And so that will be headed to the city council that'll likely be in march when that moves forward and then That's it for the upcoming items Quick updates on the busy meeting that council had on the 23rd We had four land use related items and ad you accessory dwelling unit urgency ordinance was extended And the commission will see that ordinance along with some related changes coming forward later this year for accessory dwelling units likely in the summer fall time frame Um Lee while you're there. I'm trying to remember the number ab 2307 Requires jurisdictions to kind of do like Pre-built ad use Yes That's so pre-approved plans proof plans. Do you know if anything's happening with that? Are we going to do that or just ignore it or I'm interested in that we we will be There's so many of them. Well, let me just say we are and we will be so Pretty happy. Yeah. So so what? Little context without you know diving to you. Yeah, we were one of the first Yeah, jurisdictions to have pre-approved ad use back in the early 2000s As the code cycles change as you all know every three years the code cycles changed that became challenging We also found that you know, they they weren't used as often as we had hoped because people wanted, you know changes here or there So back history currently what we allow is if a applicant gets an ad you approved on a site And you know that architects wants wants to bring forward The same ad you for another site We have we can limit the fees associated with that and limit the plan check So there's still site specific things that need to be evaluated soils You know the utility connections and so forth, but if we've already done the structural we've already done the energy envelope, you know, it's It it makes the process faster. So we do that now what the new state law requires is to actually post a website that Gives an opportunity for architects and designers to post those plans. So it's kind of like the amazon ad use Like each city would say here's the Here the ad use that have been approved, you know, they've gone through plan check You're still going to have to do some of these other site specific things But take a look and so if an architect wants to post that information Then a member of the community can go in and say hey, here are 10 plans. I really like this one How would this one fit back there? So that that makes it more accessible I still get over that eventually working Um, yeah Me too question does some of the housing Modifications to the ordinance you're talking about does some of it has to have to do with conforming our policies and our zio to State the state laws like visa be the owner occupancy Absolutely. Okay. Yes. And so in fact Um, you know the reason why it's an urgency ordinance is because not in this last cycle, but the one before that you know the the state we the governor signs these bills in September sometimes October, I think it was actually October that year and We're supposed to get it to planning commission and then to two readings of council before November it's like with noticing deadlines It's like almost impossible because the the ordinance doesn't take effect until 30 days after the second reading And so it's it's really challenging to actually get it done on time and the adu laws at the state level say if you're not in compliance Then your whole adu code is scrapped and the state law takes precedent We actually have um additional flexibility in our code above and beyond the state law And so we don't want to lose those and so right now we're still operating under that urgency ordinance But we will be coming back and doing some updates Not only to the owner occupancy requirement, which this year was eliminated not to uh 2025 So right as of december it was 80 years as a 2020 through january 1 of 2025 had no owner occupancy requirement That was that 2025 deadline was eliminated. So anything going forward Will not have an owner occupancy requirement. Our intent is to bring you how much discussion went into that fight I think it was before you're talking about a lot of discussion and then here the stage is like And so our intent is to bring an ordinance before you that not only um It recognizes that but also looks um in the past and would allow for owners to remove the owner occupancy requirement on 80 years that were constructed pre 2020 from from an equity issue, right So the ones that are deed restricted you're saying there's going to be an avenue moving forward That is what we are proposed. That is what we will be proposing based on the latest state laws Okay, I mean there's going to be well I think we counted there's like 40 people but those 40 passionate people are going to be pretty excited. Yes Similarly the I can't remember the name of the state law but the bill but um the one on condominium or on uh adu Sales. Yes condominium. Is there some discussion? Is that coming forward or is it that will be something that we discuss? and you know without getting into Too much detail because this isn't on the agenda I will I will give you a teaser so that you all can noodle on it in the interim the the The pros of that are it it can encourage homeownership and have sort of a stepping stone into um gaining equity A con to that could be the potential eviction of tenants If if someone is looking to Um to convert that so we can't have a back a big discussion on that But I would I would welcome if you have ideas and you'd like to reach out to me We've already been brainstorming some ideas internally and have have some thoughts about how to address that But that's a teaser for some of that and and please do reach out with ideas. That will help us as we move forward Okay For other excuse me three other quick items The council on 123 also approved modifications to the objective standards that were approved by the coastal commission and That has two readings. So that'll come back for a second reading in february and then The objective standards will take effect in the coastal commission upon the coastal commission's acceptance of our modifications as of march So that's that is very exciting and a lot of work went into that and then The similarly the coastal commission made some very minor amendments to the downtown plan changes that this commission saw in september um related to 15 feet of additional height for um rooftop amenities and Some other related changes. They made a minor change. We brought that to council. They approved it. So that is going to Excuse me to the coastal commission on at their february meeting So that will take effect then and then lastly The last item on the 23rd the council accepted a report from a third party consultant kaiser marston on Measure m and the impacts of measure m We as you know measure m would require a vote of the people for zoning or general plan um height or floor area ratio increases and it would increase the inclusionary rate from 20 to 25 percent After accepting that the after accepting that report the council voted Six to one to oppose Measure m and that concludes my report All right, excellent. So with that I will adjourn this meeting of the planning commission. Thanks everybody