 Welcome to ITU Telecom World 2018 here in Durban, South Africa, where I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio today by Dirk Czepluk, who is the CEO of Rhoda and Schwartz iPOC. Can I welcome you to the studio? Thanks for having me here, so I'm looking really forward to this great event. Great. Now, look, I wanted to start off by talking about smart digital development, which is a key phrase that's being banded about here. I wanted to find out what does smart digital development mean to you and how is Rhoda and Schwartz working towards it? Yeah, I think smart development is really where you have to define the target. So for example, if you want to aim for 5G, it not necessarily has to do that you have to go from 3G to 4G and how we are helping here out our customers, which are regulators as well as our telecom service providers is really to show them which capabilities they need to build up a high-quality service for their customers. And in terms of innovation, what single innovation or innovative technology, product, strategy or policy do you think is most transformative? I will say artificial intelligence or machine learning was all the gathering of the big data thing, so we were getting more and more data out of the network and we can really predict what we can, how we can help the customers to provide a good service. I think that's the key changing thing in the future and this will develop soon. In terms of opportunities, what are the biggest opportunities of 5G, in particular in Africa? I will say 5G, for example, it's a good target system because it's based on 4G technology wise. I think if you arrive here in South Africa, for example, you have a lot of 3G networks, so they have to be upgraded anyway. So why you have to wait for 4G, then goes directly to 5G, release enough budgets for this because then there's a big change between 3G and 5G. You need the experience, you have to educate the people and then I think, especially in Africa, you need all the infrastructure. So the backbone networks, they are out of the 3G days, not with sufficient data rates, so that's, especially here in Africa, probably the biggest challenge. And the challenges in particular for cyber security and digital resilience? I will say cyber security plays a bigger and bigger role. You can read in the newspaper every day, next issue that's popping up, WannaCry and so on. So you have to think about end-to-end encryption as well as how government can state it, why not obscuring their own task with the security authority. So I think in a nutshell that will help quite a lot to do so. Finally, what's the value for you of attending events such as ITU Telecom World? I think that shows us that we are a global village that brings people together, different opinions. You can exchange ideas, you see a lot of your customers, which quite helps and really the ITU did a great job in bringing the people together. Jack, thank you very much indeed. Thanks a lot for having me.