 Barcass like this, who gonna bring it to the table? Boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite? Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want it. Boss talk, yeah, everybody on it. Boss talk, it's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle, it's your boy, you CEO man, hey man, look out man. Hey, we in the building, man. I got some guys on the, hey, these guys sitting around me today, y'all. This different, man. These guys right here got a serious connection, man. I'ma be real, which I got that boy Bobo in here. I got Mr. Lee in here and he's a Leo is in here. Y'all know what time it is, man. Say, man, we gon' do some talking, man, about sweet Jones, right? Come on. Say, man, P.M.C., man. Pimp. Man, you know, today is his birthday. Yeah, that's good. You know, so at the end of the day, just wanna, you know, kinda just, you know, he meant so much to each one of us. You know what I mean? I was a fan. You guys actually had a connection with P.M.C. Yeah. And I thank God that I got to meet all you guys, man. And thank you guys for all the stories, cause I know I pick up the phone and call each and every one of you. And y'all never back down on giving me something to say, hey, man, that's what Pimp represented, man. Oh, really? So thank you guys, man. But how was you when you met P.M.C.? Mm. That was in 93, beginning of 93. She is 60, 80. So let me see, 80, 60, 70, 90, 92. Carried in one, nigga. She about 22? 22? 22, somebody there? A long time ago. 22 years old. And the crazy part about it is when you look at P.M.C., and he was before his time. Wait, wait before his time. You see what I'm saying? Like, I knew before his time when I heard the first track. When I heard, I'm like, what the hell? Well, you know what? You say that, but he was really right on time. Okay, explain. Because at that time, more rappers in Texas were more, well, I ain't gonna say the ones that were out had a little political thing to them. You know, the ghetto boys, they were fighting the system, nemesis fighting the system. Then you had Run C. You know what I mean? He was more on the Pimpish type of thing. When UGK came and bought the street element to the game, which it was other rappers out doing it. They came right on time. You know what I mean? It was needed. It was needed. That music was needed at that time, I believe. Wow. God, God don't make mistakes. And so, you can say, I wish I would have done this. I wish I would have done that, but sooner and things like that, but God's got a plan for you at that particular time. And it was right on time. Wow. When you think about P.M.C., you're younger, right? Yeah. So, when you come on the scene, it's later on, right? In what capacity? For as, for as the way, when y'all did the UGK thing, and when the, I see the UGK, Mama West, you know, that was the time when you guys was really do some work together, right at the end, right? Yeah, when he got out in 2005, but I've known Pimpin' Buns since the 80s when we were children. Correct, correct. And so, what I heard from their styles was they were young artists doing like every other artist trying to find their style, but it was something triggered them to look inward and just talk their PA shit, combined with that H-tion shit. And when they did that, it was an explosion. And right now, still to this day, we got the whole motherfucking world on our PA nuts, man. Come on. Got the whole world screaming trill, come on. Yeah, that's something that I seen come from them. I remember talking to you in the parking lot and we was talking about those shirts and I'll never forget it. And my biggest thing owning this store, when Pimpin' first died, he was in this parking lot selling really CDs. He was with us. He was, and I was here and this store was here and basically what tripped me out about it was we still was true to the fact of if it wasn't going to his family, we weren't even entertaining it. Even then, I remember the conversation. Now think about that. I'm weighing a whole different city. Five hours away from home. There's nobody watching me. Now if I was just trying to get that dollar, I could have told them anything to sell that shit. Oh yeah, for sure. But I told them how it laid out and if it ain't benefiting, there ain't no need to even. That's exactly what we discussed. And that was years ago. This is when it first had happened. I remember talking to you. I remember talking to Pimpin' Ken. It was certain people that I linked in with cause I'm a fan. I'm like, I want to do this. I had already been selling them Al Jere's t-shirts. Yeah, fuck Al Jere's. I know you mad at him. He Dan, Dan, I don't even know if you sell him the whole, but anyway. Bring Al Jere's back, man. Fuck Al Jere's. But at any rate. It was Texas, man. It was basically, whoo, we liked that. It was a nigga. That was a culture-vulture doll, nigga. Yeah, but dude. He a nigga's fair for it, man. You fair for it, too, because you did. Cause you were trying to get the nigga to rock with you and he wouldn't rock with you. No, I was trying to get a shit to the rest of the sale and to get a profit. You seen that Al Jere's ad. I was telling Yeezy this. That had Pimpin' on it. You've never seen that? What? You seen it, right? He had the black shirt on with the black shades. Yeah, yeah, I've seen the shirt. He said, he gave me that particular shirt. Yeah, I had that shirt in here. No, I mean that particular shirt. Yeah. The one that's on there. Wow. He's just going for it. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah, I still got that shirt. Man, so, Mr. Lee, I listened to that whole last project you did. You went and dealt with a lot of niggas on that project, man. Yeah. I was like, what the hell? This nigga on there? Cause I had to go back and listen to the whole thing. Yeah. How important was it for you to touch that in the right way, you know, as far as knowing that this would be the last project? I mean, for me, it was just closure. Because think about when people pass away like that, a lot of people don't know the conversations that had plans that were being made. I was supposed to work with Pimp when he came back home. Okay. We was going to do an album together. You know what I'm saying? I think it was going to be his last album on Rapaliter, whatever it was. And we were talking. And a lot of strong points I had in my career I was giving to him. And when he passed away, it devastated me. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of things, a lot of albums got done after he died that I didn't have anything to do with it. But when I got the opportunity to do that, it was like me getting closer. I cried many nights working on that album. I felt like he was in that with me too, a couple of times. Listening to them vocals. Yeah. It's wild. They're looking over my shoulder like, man, cut my hair. But it was just more than that for me. It was just getting a closure of it for me. Yeah. I really enjoyed it, man. You had a bunch of people on that thing, man. He met your friend. I think David Bannon was on there. Yeah. Which one was that? Yeah. What was it called? He was on that song. I forgot what the name of the song was. No, I'm talking about the whole, the project was. It was Long Live Pimp. Long Live Pimp. Oh, with the white cover. Yeah. Now I'm going to say this and I'm going to get off it. Now a lot of that stuff, I had to stop listening to it. Because it was a lot of shit that went on that nobody knew about. Players like myself who got taken off a lot of these monumental songs that people would have seen. Damn, them niggas was making some P.A. ass shit. Some U.G.K. posse ass shit. Nigga, our vocals got clean, swept off them hoes and other niggas put on them. By the time it got to me, it wasn't even on there. And I know what you're talking about. But I ain't disgruntled because a nigga got some paper and a nigga get cagoga every night with some fire-ass head and I don't give a fuck because my name is out there like a motherfucker. Come on, man. You man. You man. Man, man, man, man. You bought it, though. I got to his bunch of niggas in this bottle. Talk about what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spent your truth, nigga. Yeah, I got a bunch of phone calls, unknown from people that I didn't know, you know what I'm saying? But it was all good. There was some people that was on there? It was, you know, just different people like, hey man, I was on this song. I was on this yada yada. I said, look, bro, I don't, it's not my decision for that. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? Once we got past, it was all good. Shout out to Beto, keeping me on the cover of the mother fucker. Beto! That's what we're gonna do. Man, yeah. That's my dog. So when you, Mr. Lee, so when you did that, how did you go into preparing who you would put on different tracks? Like you said, I talked to Beto. Okay. His wife had some input in a couple of them in the label and we just put it together. I know for me, like David Bannon was one that I got and it was like two more that I got on there. You know what I'm saying? But it was just a collaboration of that. Juicy J was, Juicy J was on there? Yeah, he was on the project before I got there. Oh, I can't even say I ever heard it. You heard the album? I'm a whole-eyed nigga when it come down to it. Oh, petty. Man, that shit hurt her nigga feelings, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because think about it. If we in here right now creating content for boss talk one-on-one, something happens, unfortunately. Somebody else get their hands off it and they sweep everything we did collectively and just replace it. I put it in, I talked about that in my book though. Appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? You know why I talked about it in the book? Because people are here spending their money and their time and their efforts doing a lot of things. And when somebody unexpectedly pass away or get killed, we have sympathy for that family, we should. But that family don't have no mindset to finish the business or let the business go through that that artist had with other people. Yeah, for real. You have people out there spending $20,000 on verses, $15,000, $10,000. And then they get ready to put their records out and the family's putting season to season until they can put it out. We all get out here. Everybody has a mistake, makes this main mistake of getting a feature from an artist. Our producer are gonna be and don't have no paperwork. And when the people pass away, oh my God. There's gonna be some other shit going on, you know what I'm saying? So that's something that I wrote about because I want people to be aware of it. Look, man, do your business, get it out because you never know what situation you're gonna be faced with. And if you don't have paperwork in place, these people are not gonna honor the business that they loved ones was involved with. They don't care. There's no loyalty in that. I know a brother out of Dallas. I'm in the streets doing my thing. He actually did big business with him and his project was on its way and Pimp died. But he got that front end. We had the records. We ain't know where it was going. Somebody out of Dallas? Somebody out of Dallas with it, huh? You said somebody out of Dallas? Yeah. You know him too. Oh, me or the Mac? Me or the Mac. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, I remember that. He was putting me and said, hey, shout out to Seventeen, boy. Check your medicine, boy. But now, he was putting me and Sevim on this project and shooting at the Dallas. Me, Pimp, and Sevim on a whole underground mixtape for Mel the Mac. We had about four of the songs done. Oh, yeah, I had just left there. Yeah. That's when I left. You remember when we had the Titty and the Bentley? Yeah. And the Bentley was sitting that front? On the highway or at the house? No, when we was leaving the house, we was leaving the high rise going to Port Arthur after we was going to Beaumont for him to report. Okay. And you remember seeing me? I was at the house when the Bentley was, and you had to come get it on the flat bed. Oh, man, that's a whole other story. Yeah, but no, that's the same time. Cause as I was leaving, Mel the Mac was calling me, telling me he was headed down there. Okay. So it was like within a day or two. Right. When I was eating them big old shrimp with the... I was about to say that. Yeah. Yeah. And he fell in love with them dolphins, man. Me and them dolphins was looking good. Man, so good. Okay, now, PMC, some of the coldest verses that have ever been laid with PMC, some of the coldest producing ever been done is PMC, man. Yes, sir. So when you go back to, what's one of your ultimate, like one of your favorite verses? Favorite verses. Kick dough. That's the one K-A-L-C. That kick dough, bro. Man, when I first heard that, I said, ooh, ooh, that boy in his element. Yeah. Yeah. That boy was in his element. It's hard to beat that verse on there. That one, and there's, I mean, so many. I don't get mad. No, no, no. I'm gonna go around the room. I'm gonna make you get yours, because I don't want to say one in time. I want you to say mine. The kick dough. Which one do you got? I mean, I like 316. Okay. 316. Oh, yeah. That's personal, though. True, true, true. Yeah, you can feel everything through that. Oh, my God. So I was there. Come on, it's like you just can be metamorphic into the situation where he was rapping about. You can see it. I was there. That bitch was hard. Yeah. What'd you say when he would come out to move when he'd get through? Because he ain't acting bad. What did you like, damn, if that's what? Oh, you didn't know. You would just sit there in a moment. Well, back then, Pym was just Pym. It was Bun. To see Bun work was a work of art. So he was the one more flashy with the work. Pym was working on his craft as far as rapping back then. By the time Riding Dirty came out, he was sharp, sharp, sharp. But Bun was not really sharp. Yeah. You can see that. Yeah, you can see that. You can see it. You can see it. A lot of people talk about the verse on Murder. Yeah, I hear that a lot. But that last verse Bun did, I left it wet for you. That ain't no punk either. And we just went around the corner to grab a bag of weed and come back. And he was writing. And when we got back, Pym was like, you done? Because he was out of the booth in the console room. And he was like, yeah, I'm done. He hit that button. Pow! That bass. I got a question for you in a minute. Yeah. Okay, so mine is Pinky Ring. Pinky Ring. You like Pinky Ring. Man, didn't it go rec so hard on that? Oh, yeah. Man. That Pinky Ring went in. And Pym went hard on it. Shout out to Surge. Surge did that beat. Okay. Surge, yo. So you seen them writing process, freestyle and process early, early 90. Early, early. Okay, so what I got to see was early 2000. And I seen them niggas writing them fucking seven minute versus straight classics in seven under 10 minutes. Yeah, they could do it. Was that born that back then? Yeah. I told you, we just went around the corner. We ran around the corner. I mean, we went probably down to the freeway and back that distance. Born that he was writing, had started to write. He had, I read it when we came back here I already finished writing, I already busted his ad libs, everything. Done. Damn. Yeah, born a different animal. You see, I taught the born one them kind of do it. One time we came to town, we went around to about four different studios. We went in studio sessions probably 30 minutes, 45 minutes. People have food laid out for them. Now we ain't here for all that. We ain't here for all that. The big deep, we ain't here for all that. We hear the bus. One time he had me roll a blunt. I told you this story before, you roll a blunt. He said, Bobo, go downstairs and count the money. I go downstairs and count the money. By the time I was coming back in, Bobo was coming out the booth. God damn. Damn it. Just enough for me to count about six grand. Yeah. The back end, that was the back end. Wow, wow. So, he a different animal. Different animal. He a different animal too. After riding dirty, Pimp became that. I think it was a monster. He was a monster. He would do all this shit in the booth that moving around, wouldn't he? Yeah. What'd you think out? Yeah, yeah. He would do all that moving around in the booth to where it sound like his voice come from here. I was throwing them out. From here, I'd never seen nobody do it before. Damn. Bitch. Yeah, he do it, man. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. He doing it himself. He doing it himself. All his back doors, he doing them. Yeah, he got it real. He do it 16, 17 years old, coming up with this shit. By the time he got to in his 30s, I think it was an animal. And it shocked, I ain't gonna say it shocked me. I was so happy that when he came out of jail, he still had it. Yeah. I was listening for that. I was like, oh, joy. Did he have this though? Was he able to get in that motherfucking booth without pinning pad and construct that song off the top of his head? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When I first met him, well, one time I met them at the studio after we had already been introduced. And somebody had a, I think Bun, they used to stay in the residence in. Yeah. Out there in Los Colinas. And Bun had a party in his room. A lot of people came. I was in him from Nemesis came, a lot of people. It wasn't just a bad boy. It was a kickback type of thing. A couple of girls. And them boys got the freestyling. Come on. Bro, they freestyle like songs. Exactly. And this was when they were teenagers. And when they finished freestyling, I'll take that back. Let's fret for it. After I moved to Port Arthur, I came to learn that all the freestyling, what they were seeing in the freestyles had actually happened. Damn. The stuff about them kicking in the dough and stealing that album and all that other stuff. Supertype was a different album. Yeah. That we heard. You know, y'all didn't get to hear Wee Wee. Y'all didn't get to hear 93 Mac. Y'all didn't get to hear Menagee Tois. Something like that. Yeah, it's out. It's out on YouTube, but you didn't get to hear it in this full element. Like those songs were about to be big, big, big. At 93 Mac. Well, Mr. Lee, when you look at like to see the supertype go to the ride and dirty, that element of it where you start to see the screw, you know, the screwed and DJ screw and the botany boys come into that element. What did you think about that when you first seen that? Because you love music, so I know you watch it. I mean, I was heavily influenced by it. You see what I'm saying? That's what really triggered me to start the whole thing situation with the screwed up hooks and tracks, you know what I'm saying? I got that from listening to that album. Okay, okay. You know what I mean? So that's, I was heavily influenced by it. I was always influenced by Pimp C with the organs and all of that. That's where it come from. You know, we both come from church. So, you know, me, him, you know, Joe does the same thing too. But you can't hear Mr. Lee track. 90% of my tracks gonna have organs in them. Wow. That's just what it is. That's how I get down, you know what I mean? So all of that influence came from listening to UGK. Wow. And how did you feel like when you seen it go from the supertype to that next album? Cause it changed for me. Oh, big time. It changed, you seen the change. You seen the change. It became way more musical. He backed off of the production a lot. You know, he let N.O. Joe handle some of it, you know. Some of it, he had the ideas. He would make the tracks at home, you know, like murder. He did that beat. He did 360, not 360, what's the one everybody love? Diamonds and Wood. Diamonds and Wood. All that was done. Then he take it to N.O. Joe and N.O. Joe, we do the beat, we do the drums. N.O. Joe had a knack for those drums. Yeah, yeah, yeah. P.L.C. did it too. I mean, the snare pimp used with the clap on it. The drum machine. I mean, come on, man. It was the drum machine. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that boy went with N.O. Joe to, you know, redo the drums on those beats that he already had, and it made it sound bigger. P.L.C. had to realize during that time that we were living. You wanted your album. People used to measure the album sound against certain projects. Yeah. And back then, you know who the biggest project you had to work your album against? It was the Chronic. That Chronic album sound is so big, so, so big that he wanted his beats in the quality. I think the guy named was Bernie Grubman. Bernie Grubman did the mastering. The mastering. The mix that was by Brown. Yeah, see, but he wanted that. We would sit up and have conversations about Bernie Grubman and all these people in California, but here in Texas, we wanted it done here in Texas. So, and he found N.O. Joe. N.O. Joe had that style of pushing the speakers that he wanted. That 808, huh? Huh? Was it 808? The 808 was already, he was already using 808. Pimp had 808. Yeah, he was using that through the R8. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The stuff you heard on Super Tide and not the, I'm not gonna say through or to Swallow, but the one before that, the Southern Way, that was R8, man. Yeah. That boy, I mean, bitch, get up off me, R8. And N.I.G.A. Sake. You heard that N.I.G.A. Drums mine. Yeah. And N.I.G.A. Drums' sound monkey. Yeah. If you got weak drums, he ain't trying to hear it. No, no, and notice how it listens before crooked letters. Yeah. Wow. What do you think? You didn't hear that slug. You didn't hear that slug. I heard this slug. You heard that slug? Yeah. I heard that slug. You saw him now. But, okay, if you really look at the way Pimp was, you know, and the way that his whole legacy lays out, do you, are you guys happy with it? The way that everybody still shows him love and do you think he gets the love that he deserves? I think he can get more. Oh, yeah. I think he can get more, but you know what? Pimp sees so deeply rooted, you just can't, you ain't finna miss it, man. No. You can't. He's an urban legend. Yeah, you can't do that. UGK has a group period, man. You can't, United States, the whole world, you cannot miss them guys. You can't. And you get certain people, outcast, not the group outcast, a person that's an outcast. Correct. You know what I'm saying? They would try to dirty up the legacy, say certain shit, you know, because don't know why to fuck with them. But it's a reason why people didn't fuck with you. You know what I mean? Let me ask you this. We don't boss talk one on one. Boss talk one on one. We some bosses. Who the fuck is we talking about, man? I don't bring up bitch niggas' nakes. OK, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? I don't turn around and say we be bitch niggas, man. I'm sitting next to the legend Mr. Lee on the track. Now, he talking about it being influenced by UGK. I'm sitting here getting chill bumps, you understand? Because these are my pills, and this nigga is a pioneer. This nigga broke the mo- I'm an artist, you understand? So listening to beats that I can't afford at the motherfucking time. Now I'm sitting there hoping, wishing, and praying, I'm about to steal one of these motherfuckers and mix tape this up. This nigga broke the mold with his sound. And look how unbelievable he is, man. You have to give it to who you go to. I mean, you know, the thing about it is a lot of people don't understand the experience of friendship and the brotherhood that you have with people. They look at the exterior part. But you know, you're not a part of them two, three o'clock in the morning phone calls that I was getting from this dude. When we talked about music, where he was one, when I was sampling his voice when he was in jail, right? Because I wanted to pay homage to him and keep his name alive. That's what my purpose was. He knew that when he came out. So you sample pimp and jail, why he's in jail? When he came out, he said, hey man, I appreciate you keeping my name alive. And then he hit the drum shit. He said, man, your drums is one of the closest to mine that I've ever heard, man, you know what I'm saying? The boys don't know what to do with your sound, man. The way you swing in the drums and the sabbath swinging in the drums was going the other way that he was that in tune. We was rap, he was, man, we would be on the phone, do it or put the beat on and start rapping on the phone. Come on, man. That's the type of stuff he did. And you know what it is, is the love for what he did. He loved it. And when you able to share that love with other people. That was odd. We don't get that. We don't get that. Now let me say this. He's right about that. Now you got those musical three in the morning conversations. Now me and Bobo got to motherfucking three, four hour of music, isn't that moving? This nigga will wake you up and talk to you into the sun, come on. Yup, he will do that too. That's all it. That's all it. He will. About anything. About everything. Let me ask you about the link with Master P. I gotta bring it up. The Master P, the stuff he did with them. When they came up, I know you know about it, Bobo. I think it was Bobo's. One of them telling me about some kind of way they got in the bathroom and did this music. I think it was. Oh, that was a. They got in to try and sound out. Break a mouse out. That's what he told me. That was at San Jack. Yeah. House on San Jack. Yeah. The room I lived in. I knew you wouldn't know about it. Yeah, it was my room, the bathroom, and then the weed room. Well, the bathroom with the weed room was the studio. Okay. That's the one. I don't know if I'll tell you about how he for this giant, I'm gonna say for this. Yeah, yeah. They gave him what was old in the form of a studio equipment. In the form of a studio equipment. Okay. And once he got all that hooked up, that became a full fledged studio. He had the Big Mackey board, you know, back when it had for us come out. I can't remember how many tracks, 36 tracks. Not even 48 on there. Yeah, yeah, some big ones. All the great mics, the DA88s, you know, all that type of stuff. So that bathroom was one of those old, I mean, it's an old house. You know what I mean? Yeah. Is that house still standing? Yeah. That's a old house. That's kind of hanging a good neighborhood, but that's a, that's a okay area. Yeah, yeah, it is. Cause we used to have to shoot down nine to get to the hood, you know? So yeah, they, that was, it was just acoustically, Pip had this thing that he always talked about. It don't matter what you record. It's what you mix. Huh. Mm. It's all in the mix. So he, he could record in a truck. See, nobody knew, but you know, y'all who was going in and out of there, that it was dead type of capacity of a studio in there. Yes. The rumor was it was just mounds of weed and niggas was hailing and getting highs of motherfuckers. Nah. And one day I went over there, boom, boom, boom, unannounced. You told me about that. Yeah. I went over there unannounced. I'm trying to smoke for free. That nigga something bun out the door to meet me on the porch. He said bun out the door? Yeah. See, I didn't know bun as close as I knew Pimp in the beginning. I met both of them way back in the day, but me and Bun knew each other from fucking around in the streets and shit. So boom, here he come to the door and he's smoking something. And I'm looking at all of that bitch saying, y'all need to get high, you know what I'm saying? You want to hit this? You know what I mean? I hit this. And then they can say, man, Pimp said you got to go. He was like that. So when it was just the, what the distinct memory of, I know P and Pimp them definitely had the ups and downs, run-ins, whatnot. But just how was the chemistry when the music was being made? Business. Straight business. Straight business. Oh yeah, he's one of them guys. I mean, P's an artist. You know, and I already told you Pimp and Bun. Yeah. And shout out Mr. 3-2, I mean them boys. It's only a few people I know that are like true artists in this city. Gunnamese, you know how you can just say Gunnamese, start rapping. It's gonna get hard. Go rap. Go rap. Yeah, and rap whole it. Well, that actually is. Did they? No, I ain't gonna say did they think, because I know, did you think P could rap back then? So who? I thought he was clever with his rhymes. I thought he was better than Silt and Shocker. What about you, Mr. Lee? I heard some of the early rap stuff. Well, well, well, you can't, the Pimp got him after the stuff before that. No, I'm not. I mean, when he first started, you would never think that. He would've been as big. As big as he is, that he was. You wouldn't have thought that that was gonna happen. But that just goes to show you about somebody that's a scholar of something and is willing to learn and perfect. Yes. And that's where he came from mediocre to icon. Oh yeah, and plus he had a hustle game out of this world. He was gonna work. He was gonna work. What about his brother, tell him I rap on beat, did I get back on beat? Nigga, you off beat. You can't rap, nigga. Well, I can't say that Blue Face did it. And he didn't, he's not successful either. You got this kind of shit. What you mean he not successful? I mean, he's successful, but he's not successful. You can't say that man is successful when you can, you guys looking at success in the wrong way. I'm looking at success as a 20 year run. No, I get it. But the nigga young, you gotta understand Blue Face, a young dude. What song, what song he got? You don't know what he gonna be because he ain't who he is. Okay, he's successful. Am I right? So you can't say he ain't successful. He's just not consistent, he's just not consistent. He can't rap. I think you got it. You just got it. You never know. He's a reality. I'm gonna be honest with you. When you look at the younger people, I get them different leeway than I do. I can speak my truth about them. But their truth is gonna be told from their perspective with their peers. So I can't be real artist. I'm just like real artist, man. No, I might not like it. He said no. I mean, what it is is that, and I think this is why I've been able to do this so long is that I understand that everybody has different strengths. Yes. We can't look at in the eyes of a 90s rapper or a 90s music lover and look at these kids today and expect to see what we saw back then. It doesn't exist. Yes, it don't. But they have different hustles than we had. That's right. And they're reaching way more people than we were back in the day with the streammen. And all of that. So it's an old different ball game, really. But the flip side of that is they are dying in tremendous numbers. They are being locked up. So they are getting way more emotion and traction, but they are risking it all for that motion and that traction. So at the end of the day, having longevity from being a 90s hustler or a rapper or whatever, early 2000s, where would you really wanna be? Would you wanna sacrifice your life for two, three summers of fame? So the dynamics of it is really crazy, man. I gotta go back to Silk the Shocker cause you're on that play from the South Stack Gs, nigga, Silk went in on that. I mean, you didn't wanna choose something. Silk went in on that, nigga. And Silk been lost. You heard what I just said. Silk ain't out there. He ain't on Mamma Mia. Nah, Silk had his position, though. Yeah, he did. He did. He played it to me. One thing you got to really realize about Silk the Shocker, he never presented himself as an emcee like that. But you know, wait a minute, though. You do know he was the emcee that they built the company around? Yeah. Who? Silk. Silk was. There ain't no way. Yeah, that's who the rapper was supposed to be. Why not Seymour? Seymour wasn't him down there yet. I mean, he hit more people than Seymour did. For real? Yeah. He had the youth, bro. When you get the youth, you got everything, Jack. They had the look. And he had a couple of key features. I mean, he did something with, I think Beyonce and them did. Yeah. What about Mystical? Mystical, too? Mystical was kind of, what? No, I'm talking about for as far as he went to the army. You gotta understand, I'm thinking back of how his, yeah, his personal, just him moving around the way he did. He wasn't just there like that for me. I seen him, he left and he came back. I'm telling you. Mystical was so ahead of his time. He was jamming. That nigga was bad, but I'm just saying, you could tell he left. And I took care of that when I interviewed him. Like, you could tell he left. Like he came back, but he left and then, you know. He had more to talk about? That nigga was bad, man. And that nigga, I put him up there, probably number one, no-limit, that was cold, man. Artist. That nigga used to dance while he rapped. That nigga was a straight performer. Who you got number one, no-limit artist? Mia. I'm going with Mia. Me, too. Okay, Mia. Shit. Mia. I was between the two. Balls lady mama, Mia between the two. You right. Mia the one, Mia was the most consistent rapper You right. You right. I ain't lying. I regress. Sorry, mama Mia. Miss circle was talented. Don't get it twisted, but he was not consistent enough as she was. But, you know, their development came after they had did that with Pimp and their songs in the build up. I mean, you talked about that build up. You know what I mean? And that was one of the things that kind of, I believe was where, you know, they had the little issues was because of that. Let me tell you something. And I think Mr. Lee, I'm always into, I'm into sports. Yeah. Mainly football. You know what I mean? If Patrick Holmes wouldn't ended up sit with the Miami Dolphins at that time, he wouldn't have been Patrick Holmes. So being in a great situation helped you out. And when he was able to construct Beats by the Pound, that take a lot of weight off your shoulders when you can come with hit songs like that. Now all you gotta do is come with the hooks. Yeah. And the way they was recording, it was a collective effort. I mean, somebody might could say this, oh yeah, put this hook in there. It ain't all about, I got them. And UGK instance, it was just two men doing everything and coming out with albums. When you got eight, nine motherfuckers in the studio collabing on a record. Yeah. And you got, how many producers is in Beats by the Pound four? Yeah. Them boys was jamming. Shout out to my brother, Moby did. Yeah. My brother, man. Yeah. You know, I love KLC back. KLC. KLC a lot. I don't play no game about KLC. KLC a real dude. He makes some real Beats. Yeah. I think Moby Dick was the. Moby had the hooks. He singing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Playing that piano, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So did Pimp ever get mad at you and say, you know what, I ain't talking about, boy. But you and him was just, you just listened to everything he said, didn't you? Listen to him. Yeah. And talk crazy with him. That's why I say, when I talk to him in my mind, I say, this why this nigga like this nigga, this is crazy. Yeah, we. I be talking about what is going on, man. He was piece of a box. Yeah, we just. We just passionate. Yeah. He was crazy. We just passionate, man. Yeah. And he still on what he stood on. Me and him, we actually got close. I had some stuff like that because I wanted to verse from it. And I had a Mike Moag hit him up. It's like, hey, Mr. Lee, want to get a verse. And Pimp told him to tell me 10,000. So Mike Moag called me and said, yeah. Pimp say 10,000. I said, man, he paying, they didn't even know 10,000 dollars for no verse, man. He crazy. What you talking about? He told Pimp like, well, man, I don't know what we're going to do then. I ain't doing this shit if I ain't getting 10. And we left. We ain't do nothing. So Slim had a song that Pimp was getting on and Pimp had to come to my house to lay it. So when he pulled up and he saw my crib, he was like, damn. So then we, he went in record at the record. We talked. He said, man, I ain't even know you had it like this, man. He said, I need to sit down and talk to you about some shit. I said, man, take my number down. And we started talking almost every other day. Man, I talked about when he was in prison, when he got out of prison, what was going on, all of these stories. He told me all of this shit, bro. Now this the shit he wouldn't do. But let me say this. Who was your best marriage with your tracks and the artist? Ooh, I know what I want to hear what you say. My best marriage? Yeah. It's two, bro. I got an X in a current. Can I guess one? Tuck, slim thug. Yup. Thuggle. And then it's nipsy. Wow. That's hard. That's hard. I can't, bro. You know what is kind of crazy for me? Because I really can't say that shit because then you got Scarface. Yeah. Then you got Kiki. Then you got Zero. Then you got Trade. But that thuggle on your b- Thug, man, bro, we just, we working on some shit right now. And it's just like we, he got a good voice. Went back in time, bro. That voice, that voice, bro. But when you create a sound with people like that, and that's what happened, then it's just gonna go like that. I just, I just, because most people, most people would have some kind of fallout and can't reproduce that sound for the fans who really waiting on it, you know? Which I'll able to deliver it. I did that for Switch House, too. It's got consistency. When Switch House had the, when Carnival Beats and Switch House had kind of part ways, I picked up the pieces for them and kept it going. I did it with Do-it-Dot, too. Yeah, come on. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Do-it-Dot, they lost their producer. You can even tell when the next album came out it was the same shit. Y'all heard that new, y'all heard that slim thug and that Daven on that Dre beat? Yeah. I redid it. The bitch on back. Yeah, it'll go hard. Yeah. I ain't heard it. Slim thug got that voice, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He a bad nigga. Bad nigga. The boss. The bad always have been. You know, I always stood out. I listen to them ever since when he went in on All Them Boys when they was into it, when he did a whole, that nigga did a whole West Coast beats diss track. He's my bag in a day, right? They don't really give him the credit he need to have, though. That nigga rap, man. That boy can really rap. See, I got that. Him and Kiki, them the ones. That Kiki's so consistent. Yeah. That nigga can ride a beat better than anybody you ever want to see. That nigga can ride a beat. I give it to them, too, right there. He the one pretty much stamped that sound of that A&B rhyme scheme in that flow. You would have to get that to Kiki. Yeah, you got to. Kiki was the dude. I got to take it back to Pem CD. I think he'll be proud of what's going on in the South right now. He'll be on People Ask. If that boy was on the internet. Hmm. Yeah, we talked about that. A lot of boys would have it, man. It wouldn't, a lot of this shit wouldn't be going on with it's going on. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Some of this shit wouldn't exist. Nah, it's gonna be. If he talked so bad about it, he'd cancel your ass. His mouth was bad, bro. When he speak on you, it was a wrap. You might as well just go ahead and just sit to the side. Yeah, take that. Just like you said last night, that boy sat down and just took that ass to him. He took that ass to him like a G. A lot of people have. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, he gonna talk to you. Okay, if we had the idea what the word could be. Every other day in these days terms, Pimp was going viral every other day. But what would we call it back then? Well, was it really every other day or they just make a scene like that? Cause I think he had way more good times than bad times. He did. But he was dropping so much shit, doing so much shit like he was writing in the magazine saying. He only did all that. He did a few of it, but I don't think that it was just a consistent thing that he did, but you know what it is? So that man did not bite his tongue though. That was the thing. If he don't say something, he's saying. That wasn't Pimp right there. Because before Pimp, I think Pimp, just my opinion, felt like he missed a lot of time that four years. And he was trying to play catch up and get where he needed to be. Because he could have been there within that four years of him sitting down. I mean, you could realize that the height of big pimping and sipping on that scissor, now you gone? Yeah. I mean, come on, bro. That was a lot of money he missed. Yeah. You know about the movie deal? What movie deal? Ice T as son of a script. He told me about it, I don't know the logistics on it, you know. Ice T wanted him on Law and Order. Send him this script. Worth a couple million dollars. I don't want to do that shit. Yeah. Why though, Pimp? So I was trying to tell you, if I do some suck ass acting, that shit gonna hurt my music career. I'm sitting there looking at this motherfucker's script like, let me do that motherfucker's action. I never wanted to take, he told me he was gonna go to school and take acting classes. Oh, yeah, David Bannon told him to do that. So he could present himself correct? Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't gonna, I mean, that was a art to him. That's all right, I'm not gonna disrespect their craft by getting out there and saying I can rap. I mean, I can act. Yeah, he wasn't gonna do that in half an hour. Yeah. I think he would eventually slow down on popping up everywhere. He was just trying to get to where he was trying to get and help all his people out at the same time. Man, do people understand how many people he was trying to help at the same damn time? Yes. I was trying to ask you about this, the Three Six Mafia and his link with them and Juicy J and him, like, how did that, it seemed like a hell of a bun. I wasn't there. You see what I'm saying? I just, the way they had the same kind of feel though. Yeah, they did. It seemed so. We thought about the same time. Correct. Yeah, then you know Juicy J, Juicy J, Pimp, me, and maybe, I don't know, maybe a couple of other producers out there, but we used to sample certain things. Yeah. And they sampled the same things. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So that's why his music, it was a perfect marriage. It seemed a bun. You could tell it was a bun. Yeah. I just think about the phases of Pimp C, you know what I mean? I think he met them sometime in, for sure, while he was living in Atlanta. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I never met them to the funeral. He wasn't fucking with Pimp C. You never met him to the funeral. He wasn't tied in with Project Pat? Yeah. Okay. Not like that, but he was a Project Pat fan before he was. He was a Project Pat fan. Oh my God, yeah. That's how the international player record came out. Yeah, already. Yeah, he was a Project Pat fan. That was a Project Pat beat. Yeah, first. Yeah. Yeah, that's the game, man. Like I said, I wanted to sit in here with you guys just because, you know. On Pimp's birthday, man. Yeah, Pimp's birthday. Speaking of the birthday. Yeah. Let's tell you about this one story. All right, let's go. One time, mama called me. She said, baby, he about to be 23. We got a show in Dallas on his birthday. Let's throw him a party. So I said, okay. No, we was, we weren't rich. You know what I'm saying? We were just a regular old cat. You know, so I was trying to think, hmm, what can I do here in Dallas that I know they gon' like in Port Arthur? Cause a lot of people was coming. So I said, seafood. Easy peasy. Easy peasy, seafood. So I went to Red Lobster. Yes, sir. I went to Red Lobster and I got about $4,500 worth of those cold shrimp with the crab legs and I don't know what we told him. They were in one hotel before the show. We started, mama started laying the hits to him. Hey man, some wrong, something happened to the rooms. We got to switch hotels. Okay. So I got everything. I didn't go, this was the first show that I didn't go to in Dallas or UGK. So he blowin' me the fuck up. Like nigga, where is you? I'm at the hotel setting the shit up. You know what I'm saying? Cause when he, when they all walked in that conference room, it was like, bo bo! Bro, it was just, and we kicked it and we kicked it and we kicked it all night, bro. On his birthday. 23. And 23 years old. Wow. That was like 1997. Yeah man, 1997, 1998, yeah. And just, that was UGK. Bun, I mean, Bird, Leroy, I mean, everybody there. And we just ate shrimp, ate crab, kid, I got him a birthday cake. We did everything, bro. We had a celebration. Yeah, a hell of a celebration. And you have to realize, you know, when we had the Ryder, you know, we had certain things we had to have. We had to have Popeye's chicken. Come on. The box of chicken in there was silly. That ain't gonna like BG. But the liquor, you know, when you have so many shows back to back to back, unless you just alcoholic, you ain't gonna finish the bottle from the night before. So we got so much crown. You know, that was mama's drink of choice. We had so much crown and, I don't know. Maybe Hennessy, but bro, it was so many bottles in there, we got sloppy. Wow. We got sloppy and we ate good. I know, boy, you remember that day, in the conference room, off of 635, I believe it was at the Sheraton after. Well, man, we had a great, great, great time. So this time, when Pimp came home, the dynamics of Texas rap artists getting great paid for shows. That changed. Was at an all-time low. The highest paid rapper at that time, you couldn't guess who it would be. Probably Lil Flip or... Probably Lil Flip. Paul Wall. Bigger than Lil Flip? Man, Paul Wall was damn near getting 25 racks of show at that time. When Pimp came home, he started seeing what bars was, you know, and he's like, well, what I'm gonna go for? He say if boom, getting such and such, and they want me, I want this. And if they want UGK, what was that number he said that UGK ain't going until they get that number? Let me tell you, it was probably, I remember he was going for about 25 or higher, wasn't it? By itself. By itself. So what did he say he wanted for UGK? UGK had to lease out 50 to 100. 50 racks. Yeah. To do a UGK. He said he wasn't gonna do a UGK show until somebody booked that shit for 50 racks. And it wasn't that many UGK shows. And check this out. Niggas was like, oh, he ain't gonna ever get it. He ain't gonna ever get it. He stuck to it. We ain't doing it till it comes. Oh, yeah. It came. It lined up for him, too. It lined up for him. Club Blue played him. That was the first ones grabbed it. Niggas on the Dallas grabbed it whole. We grabbed it. Man. And that was the last show. That bitch was so swole. Niggas was hanging from the ceiling, man. And they had, they had gotten back to, I mean, you know, a lot of people burn and pimp like any friends I've seen here before. I mean, if I get upset with you or you get pissed at me, we men. We're not women. The dynamic between us is bigger than, oh man, you tripping over a girl. Cause that's the only thing it was ever over. You know what I'm saying? Some like, you know, nothing, never over no money. Never over no music. It was always, I don't like, you was late. That type of shit. Why you not here? You know, that type of shit. So for anybody to have a dynamic, trying to build a dynamic that they had big, big problems, they didn't. When I went to that time that you saw me at the house on Jimmy Johnson, when I walked into the up, the high rise, I said, Chad, I need to talk to you. Because yeah, they were at odds, you know, but it was the same kind of odds that UGK had always been there, you know. I got my click, you got your click. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he vented sometime, but so what? So what? But it wasn't ever no, nigga, I hate that nigga. Fuck that. It never was nothing like that. And so when I walked into that high rise and I said, nigga, sit down. This how I used to talk to him, sit down, bro. I said, what's up with this shit between you and bud? I don't know, man. And so it was on a Sunday, I can remember. And I got there quite late, probably about six, seven o'clock that night. And he said, and he was just, he let me vent. But man, you need, man, y'all missing all this money. You tripping again, y'all, you need me back down here. Keep you straight, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. He just, that back when he had the razor. Razor? He hit me with the razor, bam, bam. Show me a picture, him and bud, just that day on stage at the car show right in Houston. Okay. Just that day, I said, so y'all back? He said, yeah, we finna start doing shows. That was in October, the first, the first. So he said, we back good, Bobo. We're back good, Bobo. We finna start making that money. The first show, like you said, was in on Thanksgiving Day, 19, excuse me, 2007. Right? Damn it. Right? Thanksgiving Day. He was talking about coming over to my house, you know, in the lobby. I'm going to stay with Bobo. After the show, y'all, I'm fucked y'all, I'm going, we was at the Magnolia downtown town. If I remember, I think some of the footage of that show was in that get through video. That's a badass hotel. The Magnolia downtown Dallas, right? Remember the icon? Yes. Okay, keep going with your story. So yeah, then two weeks later, he's passed. So what transpired in between him telling me we good, them hugging in the lobby of that hotel at the Magnolia in two weeks you passed. So something happened in two weeks that a girl was out there trying to say that there still was some friction between UGK. Well, there never was no friction. Let me say this clearly. Not no real friction. I know what you're talking about. Everybody who feel like, you know, they had the vision and they had friction. Man, fuck y'all. Yeah, y'all think that. Let me just say this, guys. It's what you got to understand, man. A lot of places where you see people saying this and saying that from a fan perspective, come from a hurt place to be honest with you. I don't give a damn about that hurt. I'm just being real. People hurt, people hurt because you was hurt. Hurt people hurt people hurt people hurt people. But I would not hurt other people. You know what I mean? I'm not after. Listen, listen, listen. Different people deal with it in different ways. I'm not trying to destroy no legacy. I get that. UGK is an institution. I get that. You know what I'm saying? Niggas is running around doing different things because of the place they at with it mentally. But let me say this. How many brothers you got? How many brothers you got? I got three. How many brothers you got? No. How many brothers you got? Okay, check this out. Me and you. You know, God damn well, you and your brothers didn't fart, get guns on each other, kicked each other in the ass. Some of the best, some of the best. Hard to fight each other on the Z. But it was one of your outside friends tried to side with you. He didn't fuck the ground and got two enemies. Cause now you and your brother against that nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you know that dynamics, you know that dynamic, you stay out of nigga's business. It a plenty of time pimped and walked up to me with the big ass algae shirt on in his glasses off, one eye going that way to my nigga. Ooh, yeah. And I just be listening. And at the end I say, you're quite mad on you, old boy. I don't give a fuck what he talking about because that's his brother. And at the end of the day, I'm not finna get in them niggas business. I agree with that. That's real. I agree with that. And like I said, was it anything ever so serious? Hell no. Nothing was ever so serious at all. Now here's my question. What y'all not gonna do is stop these fans from doing whatever they wanna do to try to create these narratives. This ain't no famous, niggas. This what I need y'all to do. Can y'all ask to them iTunes links, go to them band camps, get them goddamn trio hats. I don't wanna hear nothing about all that goddamn narrative and mess shit with that shit. Y'all wanna support Lord of that Motherfucker super tight TV. I need one of them. Yeah. Hey, but let me ask you this. Yes sir. Okay. Now, I'm from Port Arthur. I know the both of them. That's both my friends. Now, when the whole thing looked like, okay, Bun got his team. Pimp got his team. Yeah. Why I couldn't play on both teams? You could have. You could have. I did. Yeah, you could have. I did. But niggas try to act like, it never was like that though, bro. It was only like, how long was Pimp on? Almost two years. Almost. So he was not on for four, 24 months, right? Uh-uh. Bro. You could have, bro. I did. You could have. I mean, everybody that was in Bun's camp, they got no problem with the niggas. I fucked with the middle fingers. Yeah, the middle fingers. You know all about the middle fingers? I like with both of them though. Yeah, me too. But I mean, you know what it's, you know, I mean. I love them. Man. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big. Yeah, I mean, all UGK ruckus. I'll rock Peter Vicious, man. Yeah, I'll rock Peter Vicious. You know I'll fuck with Vicious. I'll rock Peter Vicious. I'll repeat, man. Yeah, man. Boy, y'all gonna make me cry, lad. Now, I forgot what you asked me. Yeah, yeah, man, so. But he did a little pimp, boy. And he did what y'all do, man. Yeah, I do. I do, because I see niggas as a niggle, a girl, a bitch boy, not from Texas. Trying to start a pot, bro. You're quite mad, don't you? No, I'm happy. It's SuperTight TV. Y'all tune in and subscribe. Because I'm gonna boss talk one-on-one. Thank God, man. I'm gonna boss talk one-on-one with a boss this time. Man. You know, it just, I ain't gonna lie to you. I love to get, I know the chemistry, man. You guys, like I said, you ain't did nothing wrong. Like I said, a lot of times, coming from a fan perspective, again, looking at real friends who link with pimp, man, I gotta respect it, man. Just for y'all to even come over here, I appreciate y'all. Man, I dropped a whole pimp-sea tribute song, man. You did. Coming out today, man, a little later, man. That bitch hard. Come on. I ain't gonna bullshit you. Yeah, he did. I'm gonna be, it's on YouTube? Nah, I'm gonna drop it later today. It's called Still Gripping. Send it to me. I did my best pimp-sea shit. I stay away from that because nigga be, oh, you trying to sound like pimp. See, I stay away from that because I can wrap my ass off anyway. But this song, nigga, I embody the pimp. You gon' hear it. Okay. All ready, man. So, do I leave anything out? Do we leave anything out? Happy birthday to the pimp. Happy birthday to the pimp. Happy birthday to the pimp. See, man, free young pimp. Long little pimp, man. Like I said, I ain't real. You came for life. For life, man, and shout out to Bun B, man. Yeah, Trill Burger's coming soon. Man, Trill Burger's coming soon. I ain't had one that year. See, I ain't had one either. I don't care. I don't care. I need one that year. I'll give mine when I give it. When you get it. Yeah. Man, you understand? It's spot-posed to be in Houston. On Shepherd? Yes, it is. I believe it was. In February. In February. I will be in the campus. You know I'm going down there. Yeah, see, we gon' go. We all supported, man. I'm very proud of Bun, man. How y'all think Bun doing since, you know, that was a big loss for him? It's hard, man. I mean, I know it's hard for him, bro. Because it's hard for me even dealing with that Nipsey shit. And then, you know what I mean? I know, I was there at the funeral for him. I seen when that boy walked up to that casket. Oh, wait, what? It ain't no plan with that kind of shit. You talking about Pimp? Pimp and Bun? He was in that room? Part of his motherfucking soul left his body in there. You the first person that was about that. I seen that. My own eyes, Jack. Bun was... He don't want to broke now. He was destroyed, my nigga. Bun broke down at the funeral, bro. Yeah, I was there. I mean, at that viewing portion of the film. Yeah. What did you think when you seen his body? You don't remember that? What did you think when you saw his body? Oh, yeah. I saw Pimp body? It wasn't the Pimp that I knew, man. Yeah. He stayed out to it, bro. Swollen up and everything for him like that. Shit wasn't... I'm glad they had it private the way it was, bro. Man, that shit broke my fucking heart, fool. Yeah, mine too, bro. It broke my heart because I was supposed to meet that man the day he got back. I talked to him before he flew out to LA. Wow. And we had so much shit going on. He switched up his time and I was actually supposed to fly to LA and meet him and David Bannon. When you hear the story about David Bannon saying that Pimp called him and he ain't answer the phone on that song that we did. Yeah, I was supposed to meet him. I got the call, bro, that day that I was packing my stuff up, getting ready to go out there. Come on, man. Dang. And I remember that shit like it was yesterday. I collapsed in my closet and I cried like a baby, bro. Wow. He affected so many people. What was you when you heard about it? I'm gonna ask you that. I lived in Lancaster. And then they told you you couldn't believe it. No, I was driving back in that month. I had a real entry garage with Ali behind the house. I was driving out and this chick I knew called me. I think her name was Christian and I picked up that phone and she said what she had to say and I was like, because if everybody remember, it was about a month or two before that a false rumor came up like that. And everybody was like, I'm thinking it's another one of those false rumors. And I'm standing back and up and then I start hitting down the alley. Now they kind of swerve, curve around like that. And that curve, well, headed to that curve, mama picks up the phone. She didn't say hello. Hey, baby, nothing. She just said these words. He gone. Yeah, baby, he gone. Wow. And it shot me in my heart and I mean, I feel like somebody kicked me in my stomach. And just like he said, I parked my car. I didn't, I mean, I parked the truck I was driving in that little curve before I could get to the street and just broke down. Wow. What was you at? We had just left eights time. We did all them recordings, was at the high rise. So I'm back in PA moving around doing business. When I got the call, I was two streets from my house and I was next to a graveyard. To my left at the light on 25th street, I was next to a graveyard and my homeboy Mr. Three Com and he say, sorry to hear about your brother. I'm thinking he talking about one of my brothers. And he said, man, Pimp died. Quit playing, hung up the phone, her ripping call mama. Same words she told him when she picked up the phone, she said, baby, he gone. The street I was on leads you straight to her house if you make like one or two turns. I floored it there. And when I got to the house and walked in, she grabbed me and just cried, man. I'm talking about she wet my shirt up from the chest area all the way down, full of tears. And I just held her there for damn near. I can't even tell you for a very long time. It was just them two for a long time, bro. Wow. For a long time. A lot of people didn't see that. I mean, that dynamic. Yeah, she stay strong outside. Oh my God. I was there when mama first became the role manager. We had a different role manager at first. And yeah, I was there when she first did her first show with us and the first two years of her, I was there. And so yeah, they grew together, man. And I mean, she used to have a vending machine business. Yeah. And Chad used to help out with the vending machines. How would Pimp be today? If he was 33 when he passed. And this is what he told you. What in nine? I'm a year older than him. Wow. Man, make sure you guys like and subscribe to the channel, man. Boss talk one on one, man. We want to say happy birthday to PMC, man. Thank these guys, Mr. Lee. He's a Leo Bobo in the building, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment. Couple of shout outs show. What's up, man? Caught you a big jack, man. What's up, what's up, what's up, man? You can't have no podcasters on your show. Hey, listen, you can't have no podcasters on your show. They're going to take over. Thank you, guys. I love you all, bro. Thank you. I got one word. I got one phrase that y'all need to remember. A lick gone while. Just remember that. Man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 when the bosses talk. Yup. Yup.