 This time we're going to talk about evolution and extinction. This is a fascinating story. It builds out of the histories that we have been discovering in the rocks. It clearly is related to putting the fossils in order. It also clearly is, for some people, a hot-button issue. And so I thought it might be useful to cat a little bit for us to show you what some of your classmates think. And so as we've taught this class over the years, we've run some surveys and we've asked questions of various classes. And so I'd like to walk you through the survey. Now we did something interesting with this. We had two sections of the class, and we asked essentially the same questions of both sections, but we worded them differently. And so I want you to see sort of what happens when you tweak with people's minds in the survey. And so we did this with these two different ones. Sometimes we asked the question and we said, you have to agree or disagree. You cannot be uncertain. And then we'd say, okay, it's all right now. You can be uncertain if you'd like. And you'll also watch this come bouncing through. And so we started off with basically a statement of evolution, but evolution as it was applied to humans. And so the statement was, modern biological processes caused evolution of modern humans from an ancestral population of ape-like creatures that is also ancestral to modern chimpanzees. So some ancestor splits and we get chimps and we get us. This is sort of the modern statement of evolution as it would apply all the way through. And so we asked the group and we said, okay, what do you think about this? Two thirds said, yeah, yeah, I believe in the science. I believe in evolution. So they agreed. A third disagreed. When we allowed them to be unsure, you'll notice that the numbers changed a lot. And in fact, immediately it pops to the majority being unsure. They're not sure what they want to do about this and say, yeah, okay. Now, we tried this same question with the other section. Only we've learned of this a little differently. So this is also a statement of evolution of a sort. And we said, okay, you've got some biologists out there. They're trying to feed you. They're trying to cure you. That's great. And as soon as they start talking about gene frequencies, they're evil liars, or else they're completely lost. They don't get anything right. They cure you of diseases. That's fine. But when they talk about your genetic frequencies, they're total morons. Okay? Now there are. So when we worded it this way, it's the same question, essentially. Actually, virtually everyone disagrees with it. There still is something like 10% of people who sort of think that, yeah, biologists don't know what they're talking about or else they're evil liars. But most people, you know, when you word it this way, then they say, yeah, the scientists sort of know what they're doing, so we probably ought to stick with that. Okay, so we go back and we say the second law of thermodynamics forbids evolution, as proposed by Darwin and followers. Okay, the second law of thermodynamics is things sort of getting us up over time. You can't quite break even when you're doing something. You need an energy source to make things work. And when we put this out, a third of the students said, yeah, second law completely forbids evolution. When we allow them to be unsure, virtually everybody gets unsure. They say, wow, wow, I don't know about this one. In fact, there are younger creationist groups who have told their followers, don't use this argument. It's so stupid. It's so long. There isn't any chance that the second law of thermodynamics forbids evolution. What it says is if order appears someplace, it has to mess up something else. And so in turn, you freeze water, you get snowflake. And that's more orderly, but what's around it gets messed up. And that's all the second law says. And so this is completely wrong. And like I say, some of the younger creationist groups even say, come on, I'm really stupid. Don't use that one. And then we tried a different one to the other class. We said the law of conservation of information forbids evolution. Now, this is something that has been made up recently. It is not scientifically accepted. There's no real basis for a law of conservation of information. But in fact, we got exactly the same answer for this one as we did for the second law, which is a third of people say, yeah, this does, and when you allow them to be unsure, then they're unsure. Okay? Let's walk one through. This one may be more interesting. The complexity of living organisms demonstrates that an intelligent designer was involved. This has been the hot button issue for the last few years with people saying, well, we're not going to teach religion in the schools, but we're going to teach this. And scientists are saying, no, what you're really doing if you try to teach this is teaching religion. And so this one, that you look at the complexity of living things and you see an intelligent designer. In fact, two-thirds, almost two-thirds said, yeah, you look at the complexity of living organisms and that shows an intelligent designer. When you allow them to be unsure, a majority still go this way. Now if we phrase that differently, though, if we say, okay, the complexity of living organisms demonstrates that an intelligent designer, such as a space alien, the flying spaghetti monster, or the deities of some religion or religions was involved, actually the support goes down a good bit and most people now disagree with this idea. And so sort of putting a flying spaghetti monster in or a space alien really reduces the support for this particular idea. And so I hope you can see that, first of all, the way one asks these questions makes an immense amount of difference. In fact, the most important thing in there was not what I was asking about, but how I asked the question, which is interesting. And so in turn, when you see anybody putting out their poll showing that the public believes with them and disagrees with the other people, you should be very, very careful because how these questions are asked completely controlled what we were getting when all is said and done. And so I think it's useful to be skeptical of some of these things and let's face it, it's not everyone has devoted their lives to understanding the technical issues. And so there's a lot of uncertainty floating around on these things with the technical issues. And I will chat a little bit more about this in a bit as we walk through some things. This is a hot-button issue. As we walk through this, I want you to remember where we started with science. And that is that science is not truth with the capital T. Science is the best we humans can do at coming up with explanations that successfully predict what happens. And we always know that we could make mistakes and our students could figure out what we've done wrong and could improve on it. And so as we go through this, please remember that because by the time we get to the end, we should have gotten to some things. So with that as a background, let's look at a national park, a national monument in this case. This is a really cool one that nobody goes to. This is a fluorescent fossil bed and it's sitting sort of outside of Colorado Springs. And it has, as you can see in the picture, it has big petrified trees, really cool petrified trees if you get into that. The Rockies are right behind it, so you go and you look there and the weather is great and the big butterflies come rumbling off in the summer. And you know, it's sort of the glorious place. We're still not quite sure why the Rockies are there, but they're probably sort of a rug rumble from the seduction zone coming under the West. This is on the edge of fluorescent is South Park. If anyone happens to have seen the cartoon show, this is a picture of the real South Park as opposed to the one on the cartoon show. And it's a really great place if you ever get a chance to go. There will be coyotes down in there and antelope coursing around. Well, that's a little wildflowers. The parks are the downfolds and so as the West was sort of lumped up, you've got some upfolds which are the mountains and the downfolds which are the parks. And there's South Park and there's some other parks, Estes Park and so on as you go up. And so on the edge of that is the fluorescent fossil beds. And the fluorescent fossil beds was an old lake that had little layers of mud put down and pressed in those layers of mud you get the most beautiful fossils. Just tremendous. Ages and ages ago, before it was a federal preserve, you used to be able to collect there and I actually did do a little collecting there when it was legal and moral and upright and proper. And now you cannot. It's preserved for the public. But there's beautiful fossils and they are slightly different from things that you'd find alive today. And of course that's the interesting thing that one sees is that as you look at the fossils from different ages, you find slightly different appearance in those fossils. Now we also are going to briefly visit another park. This one's a little farther back in time. This is an opportunity we had with our cause class to go to the petrified forest. We had the paleontologist at the petrified forest taking us around and so you will meet William Parker here in just a minute and Randall Ermeson. Oh man, we had a great time there. You can see that's a petrified tree behind our cause class sitting there. And this is another one. This is our chariocelan Arizona cumb, which is what a lot of the trees are in the petrified forest. The petrified forest looks to be almost entirely a big flood deposit. A giant flood washed in the trees. The trees have had the bark knocked off of them so they're bouncing around in the flood and what have you. They're coming out of the volcanic ash and there's silica coming out of the volcanic ash and as you know there's dissolved minerals in water all the time and if you get to a chemistry change things happen. If you have dissolved minerals in the water in your bathroom and you come to a chemistry change as the water comes out you may get hard water deposits depending on whether you pay for the water or the softener and you get deposits and then you need to make a ranch to get the faucet open when you need to replace the washer. Well the same things does happen. The chemistry inside a rotting log is really different than the chemistry outside and in particular you get a pH such that it will pull silica out under favorable circumstances. So you bury the log very fast enough that the termites don't get it and you get enough volcanic ash around that puts enough silica in and sometimes you get stung. And this one this is the alpha stung and Bill Parker took us out to see this. It's out in the black desert section way up, the black forest section way up to the north and this is one that's still rooted in place. It's got its roots sticking out from it and so here's the bottom of the stump and we'll try to get our pointer options and bring our pen back and then we'll try to go back to see the alpha stung. We have the roots and we still didn't get the right color of pen so let's see if we can get the pen color and we'll see if we can turn it red so that you can see it because this really deserves being seen. And so there's a root coming off of this stump and another one started out there and this is sort of a river gravel with a little soil developed on the top and this thing grew right there and it's still sitting there in place and you can see the root and the great paleontologist Bill Parker right there and our crew filming him to see what they can learn from him. This is probably the world's oldest fossil bees nest. You can see in the patchified wood over the fingers here where there are burrows that have been cut into the wood and there's a close up of them over here in the upper left that you can see but here is something that was burrowing in the wood before it was turned to stone. So cool. It was just truly amazing and just this wonderful paleontologist and so this is Bill Parker on the right and it's Randall Hermes on the left and they're out actually excavating a plate that was armor protection for a giant reptile and archosaur that lived back in the Triassic here in patchified forest and as you can see right next to Randy's finger there you can see where his big plate this reptile was and we're out walking around and we're picking up teeth. Here is Randy showing Irene Megalus a tooth right here that tooth you could still cut yourself on the point was still sharp there's still little serrations on the side for carrying into things just wonderful place and these are things that look a little bit different than what you find on the world today big armored reptiles look a lot different than what you find in the world today and so there are clearly changes in what's lived over time and so we are now going to pause for a minute on looking at pretty pictures and we'll switch over and we'll write about some things the subject to evolution I say it's a hot button scientifically it's well founded there's really no argument there's lots of arguments about the details of rank the details of processes can you evolve while you're interacting with somebody else let's walk briefly through the basic ideas of evolution what it is and then maybe we'll come back and chat a little bit about some of the hot button issues observation one if you watch really carefully in some of the beach pictures a few days ago you actually saw my daughters and thankfully my daughters do not look identical to me they're not the same height they have pretty much more melodious voices than I do they're identical looking than I am and so the first thing that goes into evolution is that kids are not identical to their parents and this is true whether you're looking at guinea pigs or whether you're looking at my wonderful daughters my wife's wonderful daughters that kids really are experiments there's a little bit of tweaking goes on so that the offspring are not identical to the parents you really can look at your kids as being experiments I wouldn't say that really loudly but they'll probably figure it out anyway that nature has experimented a little bit with them they may be a little faster but they're sort of like us I'm actually 5'7 5'6.5 I'm the tallest alley that's been for a long time and my kids actually are not terribly tall people either we didn't have any 7 footers they're not going to be really great basketball stars so they're similar to us but they're not identical to us they really are experiences the next piece of evolution this is sort of common sense people mostly know this the next thing that goes into evolution is that these differences between kids the differences between one and another the difference between the parents and the kids affect success so these differences affect success and we're going to have to define what success is you have to be careful with things like this okay because in the evolutionary world in the biological world success has a particular meaning that may not apply in college for example which is the ability to stay alive to have kids who have kids if you don't stay alive you don't have kids if you don't have kids who have kids eventually your line dies out we wouldn't have allies down the road somewhere so it's the ability to stay alive to have kids who have kids if you cross a horse with a donkey and you get a mule it can stay alive but you can't have kids because it's sterile so you have to be able to have kids who themselves can have kids and so on down the line and on down the line for us I don't know how relevant this is you know we can if I had a disease why the doctors might keep me alive you know we humans have sort of changed the natural balance but even there it is conceivable that by this definition that the differences between say me and somebody else would affect my ability to stay alive to have kids who have kids if you know if I were 7 feet tall and if I were really really good at throwing a basketball into a hoop it is just barely within the realm of possibility that I would have more opportunities to reproduce than I do as a 5-7 balding professor it's possible so even with humans this is indeed true out in the real world where people or things get eaten that this would make a bigger difference so if you are a squirrel and you're a really really slow squirrel the bobcat gets you and that's the end of things on the other hand if you're a really really big squirrel you might be faster but if you're too big the mountain lion sees you and the mountain lion gets you and that's the end of things so how much you stick out can really affect your ability to survive you're a squirrel and you don't have your tail and you jump and you can't bounce well you're jumping and you fall out of the tree and the bobcat eats you it's the same sort of problem and so it's clear that in the natural world the differences do make a difference it doesn't have to be huge differences there's this hideously wonderful old joke about the two guys that are out backpacking and the grizzly bear and somehow they know this grizzly bear wants to eat them and so the one guy takes off his backpack and he sits down and he starts taking off and hiking boots and he puts on his running shoes and the other guy says well what are you putting your running shoes on you can't outrun that bear anyway and the guy with the running shoes says no but I can outrun you and so it's the differences may just be enough to succeed relative to the others around you so even small differences might make enough to matter the third thing and this is the big piece is that that which makes you biologically unique tends to be passed on to your kids more or less so if I were seven feet tall and really good at throwing the ball into the hoop the odds are pretty good that my kids would also be tall and they'd also be good at throwing the ball into the hoop so we add here that what makes you what makes any creature what makes you biologically unique tends to be passed on to your kids this is a statement if you want easy words this says hey your kids sort of look like you but again there's this little bit of experimentation they may get a little more of it they may get a little less they may be a little taller they may be a little shorter they may be a little hairier or a little bolder or something like that greater or lesser amount now these statements running over time deep time give you evolution and that's all it is you gotta watch for a while because the differences are small you start looking at a hundred generations even see the tiniest little tweeting a thousand generations ten thousand generations before you start to notice so we humans it takes us twenty years to breathe and it sort of takes a long time to see any change a thousand generations twenty years per generation twenty thousand years to see anything happen basically if it's the cold bug that I've been trying to get rid of they're a little faster at breathing and they do it in twenty minutes next year there's going to be a new bug and you're immune to this one it doesn't get you because they change so very fast and so these sorts of changes you've got to sort of have geology sitting in there now you'll recall that back a little bit we looked at the law of faunal succession and we said this is not a law that was passed by congress this is a generalization and what it says is that as you put the rocks in order you put the fossils in order and so we had the law of faunal succession which is sort of things changed over time living things changed over time and this is an observation it was an observation that was not made by Darwin it was not made by evolutionists it was not made by anti-religionists who were trying to over throw belief in some higher power it was made by a canal engineer who wanted to do a better job making ditches it was something that was practical it clearly suggests the possibility of evolution so once people had seen these changes they started saying okay well maybe this is going on it does suggest evolution it does not prove evolution in any way one can simply look at the cars that come out of Detroit at Fort Mustangs my best friend's mother had this 1964 and a half Fort Mustangs in turn it was so cool and you know those 65's and 66's and 67's were really nice and then they made these giant bloated hideous messes at Fort Mustangs for a while and then eventually they made it in tune again if you set the Fort Mustangs up in line you can see a progression you can see a change in time but I hope it's evident that the 1964 and a half Fort Mustang did not give birth to a 1966 it's clear that it's possible that you could have lots of special creations that you could see make a Mustang, make a different one make a dinosaur, make a mammal you can see this and religious geologists argued about this is it possible that we're seeing lots of different special creations what happened is that eventually evolution won and why evolution won mostly is that a couple things happen one is, so evolution won it made the right predictions evolution says we should see transitions and then they said okay now we're going to have to look really carefully no problem that most living things don't get fossilized here in Pennsylvania you know we have we have a million deer in the state and the half of them are bucks and each of them has two antlers so every year a million antlers fall off of deer and even a few thousand years since the time of the Native Americans with a million antlers a year you know when you go walking in the woods you just stab yourself all the time on these piles of antlers that the deer have left out and of course you don't and the reason is as fast as antlers fall off some might eat them the minerals in those antlers are useful and they're not there there is no record of fossils of deer being made out there in the hills of Pennsylvania right now and so you have to sort of go look in places where fossils are being made some of this work has been done on shellfish in shallow water because a shell is really a rock and it's already there and so you can go and look very carefully at the fossils and you can see the changes over time and there's just an immense amount of evidence for this happening what one sees is sometimes you'll see you know it's a little thing and then a million years later it's a little bigger and a little bigger and a little bigger sometimes you see splits you have one pipe and then pretty soon you have two similar pipes you see very very fine transitions between given pipes you can go up across northern Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and you see very very fine changes in trilobite ice for example from the number of columns of elements in the compound eye of a trilobite and once then change over time so what you find is that it predicted things that were found and among those is transitional fossils it is things that you can see the change over time from one pipe to another now not every transition is known not every fossil is known you will never ever ever find the remains of everything that lived on the planet because we recycle, the planet recycles it's really really good at recycling and so because of that you're going to have gaps in the record what you find is that the transitional fossils are there about as often as they ought to be as you find more fossils you fill in a more complete record and so you find them they're found as often as they should be the ones that you most care about are probably pretty pretty scarce if you want to know something about the ancestors of cats cats are not fossilized really well if you want to know the ancestors of clams clams are fossilized really well and so the record is much better for clams than it is for cats that's life the other thing is that evolution says Darwin's saying there must be some way that I biologically tell my kids what they're going to be there must be a mechanism for this to work out there and so the early work on evolution didn't know genetics but it said it must be there it will be found if this picture of the world is right eventually you guys are going to figure out what came to be called genetics and so it predicted the mechanism and now we know that the mechanism has been found and so the mechanism's predicted and now observe it's there and right now if you were to ask anyone working on this biologically evolution is completely unavoidable we haven't any clue how you can make it not happen because your kids are experiments and that does affect how well they do now it's now scientifically there's no debate about this the debates are about how fast it goes and so on evolution is a practical thing in many ways so evolution is used for practical things as well as for other things if you go and search on the web in the web of science the ISI Web of Science and you look for antibiotic resistance and evolution you will find hundreds of scientific studies on that particular topic and if you go look at them there's a lot of people out there trying to figure out how to keep us alive it turns out that if we we get bugs and they live in us and they kill us sometimes and so we have invented antibiotics that we'll keep the bugs down and as soon as you have billions of bugs in you and you and it kills them if there's one of them figures out the tweak that allows them to get around that problem suddenly that one reproduces like crazy and you have an antibiotic-resistant bug and what we've seen is that over the years every tool that we've invented to protect ourselves has been defeated by the bugs and so this is a red queen's race we're going as fast as we can the bugs are going as fast as they can and so we have to be hard and stay ahead and people really are using sort of the theories, the models of evolution to ask how can we win this if we take some of the antibiotics off of the market for a while there must be some cost to that bug to beat that antibiotic maybe they'll lose that ability because now they're paying for a protection that they don't need and then you bring it back in and sap them and maybe you can win that way and so there's lots of people that are using that evolution that are trying to keep us alive and I say you don't have to believe in evolution but you better know somebody who does because it really is a very useful thing now again there's nothing anti-religion in evolution and I think it's very important to get that that evolution is not anti-religion there are a number of things that we put in the text and in the enrichment of the text if you really care about this particular topic Jimmy Carter next president of the United States Habitat for Humanity Builder a purveyor of democracy around the world and probably the world's most famous Sunday school teacher has said look you know we don't the evolution and religion can get along there's no problem here the pope has said that the pope said fine he said now you listen to me he said there are some things that I know about humanity that Darwin didn't and I'm not going to go back on that there are things that I know is the pope that Darwin didn't but he said it's fine Darwin can do his thing and we'll do our thing and we'll get along with the United States say fine we can cause this with evolution there's no big deal here there are groups that say no I know the literal truth and it doesn't happen to degree either with Darwin or with the age of the earth and so they're just wrong and we're going to fight it but there's certainly nothing that has to be anti-religious in evolution I mean in the interest of disclosure I'm not profligating I'm not trying to run you in we actually are a religious family I'm a religious person I belong to the United Methodist Church and the United Methodist Church is among those churches that say it's okay we have some beliefs we think there's something bigger than us but we also can have Darwin there's no problem with this Darwin is useful Darwin helps keep us alive Darwin is supported by an interlocking web of observations there's not one piece that you knock out and it pulls down there's an immense amount of evidence for this and so like all good science there is an interlocking web of observations for this we'll just go ahead and write that this is important remember you know there's no there's no single observation that would knock this down at this point because there's so many tests have been done hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands of let's see what predicts better and this picture of deep time and living things that have kids that are slightly different from them and that affects their survival is a big deal and so it does now let's very briefly support let's very briefly chat about two more things and then we'll move on to extinction and I apologize if you're totally with me and you say once you've beaten on this before well I apologize you can fast forward through this but if you read the letters to the editor if you have a discussion with people that don't like evolution very often it quickly boils down to the issues of morality issues of what should be rather than issues of what is and you'll hear if you believe in evolution then you're hailing if you haven't read enough letters to the editor that does come up sometimes I actually have really really lousy vision infinite focus for me is about right here and when I go to the eye doctor I cannot see the big E of my glasses and it is very likely that I have a genetic predisposition I'm one of these people that if you read a lot when you're young your eyes sort of get shaped for that so it's not that you're born with bad eyes it's that you're sort of plastic to this and my daughters have this too and they all have bad vision now that is something that maybe having me in the gene pool is a very bad thing that's evolution that if I'm left alive to breed I have kids who also have this issue and they will be left alive to breed and so we're not getting rid of me in the gene pool now does that tell you what you have to do about this the answer is obviously not you could have sterilized me when I was a kid as soon as I got my first glasses you cut off various pieces of my anatomy and we take care of this that might be really you also could have said that porche mow is a real nerdy looking with his glasses I used to have the big plastic rim he's really nerdy looking with the glasses he's disabled maybe we should give him dating lessons and so we'll help him to get along because we're trying to overcome the disability that nature has given him or you could have a technological fix you say okay he gets glasses he works no problem don't worry about it my kids have contacts they are a little more stylish than I am but evolution doesn't tell you what you have to do about this it is it's not what ought to be or what will be or how we will do it it just is and so it's something that we can use that knowledge and move forward evolution by itself is not anti-religious it's not anti-society it doesn't lead to bad things we humans decide what we're going to do and it goes from there and there's one other point is that you may possibly know that over the last couple of decades there's been an immense amount of argument about intelligent design the courts have very clearly said you can't go and teach one religion in the schools because there's lots of different religions and a lot of religions will believe this and a lot of religions don't and so there's been this real push to get intelligent design into the schools and just a very few years ago this was especially going on in Pennsylvania it was going on in one particular school district which was Dover sort of a test case and intelligent design as it's been promoted recently is a very interesting thing it allows an old earth okay so this is not actually young earth creation it allows an old earth it allows evolution but it says in the course of evolution on the old earth occasionally some unspecified intelligence tweets something so there were unspecified intelligence specified intelligence tweets okay and what do they say is the evidence for this they say there are certain things in us and living things that are too complicated to have come about by evolution evolution works in small steps and they say oh there had to be a big step so some unspecified intelligence came in and tweets something now they used to talk about the eye you know the eye is a remarkably complicated thing and they say well you know half an eye is no good to anyone and therefore the eye had to arrive boom and one thing therefore there has to be an intelligent designer therefore you know what follows they don't talk about the eye very much anymore and the reason is that the part of an eye is perfectly useful and if you don't believe that imagine your mind for a moment imagine that you've had some terrible disease and it's taken out a lot of your vision and you can't read anymore you can't focus greatly but you can still sort of see shape and shadow or you can see light and dark and somebody comes a doctor comes in and says well I have a medicine that will allow you to keep seeing a little bit will you pay a hundred bucks for the medicine and of course if part of an eye is worthless you say no I won't pay a hundred bucks for the medicine I'll just go blind and in fact everyone will say no I want to keep my vision I have some vision is useful there are critters in the world that have no eyes there are critters in the world that have little eye spots there are critters in the world that have just vague vision there are critters in the world that have good vision it's very clear that evolution can work and that small steps will matter and so they don't talk much about the eye anymore now what they talk about is the flagellum the little whip on the back of a little microbe that helps it move along or they talk about blood clotting and the parts have looked at this and they have said okay the scientists are not having a lot of trouble explaining the flagellum and so somebody from an intelligence design institute says they can't explain the flagellum so you have to teach about intelligence in the schools that's really religion I wrote a piece that is on the website that showed up in some newspapers in Pennsylvania which was on what we should teach in science class and I said well science is not true I have my own beliefs other people have their own beliefs but in science class we should teach science and we should be very careful to teach science in science class and after that I had this wonderful discussion with a whole bunch of people who emailed, who wrote who stopped me on the street people cared very deeply about this and a couple people said damn the hell you're a bad person they're going to get you for this but most of them were very polite very interested, knowledgeable in many ways and so we had a discussion in that discussion every single one of the people who told me what they believed about the intelligent designer believed that they knew who the intelligent designer was and they believed that the intelligent designer happened to be the deity that was worshiped in their church and that's what the judge found at Belver which is intelligent design it's not really about flying spaghetti monsters it's not really about UFOs it's really about religion trying to become anist science I also have some religious leaders who desperately did not want to see intelligent design taught in the schools they said imagine that you believe that you're religious imagine for a moment you're a religious person do you want to promote your religion by having a biology teacher have a tenth grade class and intelligence helped design you and we know this because biologists are having troubles explaining the flagellum ok now what happens when the biologists explain the flagellum is that a good rock to build a religion on the difficulty of biologists explaining the flagellum and so in fact these religious leaders said that's really don't do this this is a terrible thing for religion to try to teach it from flagella and biology class and so this is now by the courts this has been said to be religion and so the dover course said this is religion it doesn't belong in science class and put it somewhere else ok so that's if you want to talk about this some more it is a very interesting topic a lot of people care very deeply about this topic there is a good bit more Q&A and sort of arguments back and forth on the website material you can chat about so let us now get off of that subject which we stayed on probably a little too long and let's go see what if you have evolution what comes after that and what comes after that is often extinction let's now go this is a texture of dinosaur dinosaur sitting up in colorado in utah and the rocks are sort of old river deposits and they're picked up on edge and in dinosaur there's dinosaur bones and this is just a really tremendous place they put this one big it's an old sand bar that's picked up on edge and sitting in that sand bar there's an immense number of really big dinosaur bones and this is serious scale oh I thought I had a picture with the ranger in it at any rate this bone is sort of as big as you are so there's all these dinosaur bones sitting up there and what we're going to argue for you is that the dinosaurs lived for a long time they were doing great they were happy they were healthy they were terrific and then they got gone in by a giant meteorite this is a little tiny meteor crater this is the Burranger impact crater in Arizona you'll see the visitor center but this is actually not a national park but the visitor center is over here and the road is coming in here and then this crater is sort of you know most of a mile across this is a little crater this is not a big crater and we think it was a really big one they got the dinosaurs and this is a picture over here on your far left between the pink arrows is a picture of the crater it is sort of off the Yucatan peninsula and this thing is 110 miles across so and that circular structure there shows where the meteorite hit and the hole it made it would have been a pretty big one there's a number of pieces of evidence that one finds where meteorites hit you get broken up pieces of stuff and this is not from this crater it's from a different one but there's broken up pieces in both of them and you get minerals that look really funky they get these funny lines running through them if you hit them really really hard and the layer when the dinosaurs were killed has that this is the layer there are dinosaur fossils below this and there are no dinosaur fossils above this and in this layer you find those funky shock course and you find things that look like this you find little spheres of melted rock that were splashed out of the thing and it's just this wonderful something happened the world changed right there this is one of the most amazing things that you'll see this is work that was done by many people my friend Brian Huber was involved in this at the Smithsonian Institution he is a wonderful knowledgeable tremendous person and what we have over here they went off of the nose of South Carolina which is a long way from the Yucatan and they pulled up and they drove a pipe down into the mud and they pulled up the mud and they pulled up you know some hundreds of feet of white mud and at the bottom down here here are some of this white mud and there are hundreds of feet of this stuff if you go and look in that white mud you find these fossils that are over on this side and there's big ones and there's little tiny ones and there are all different kinds of fossils in here you see a great diversity you know some really cute fossils you see this great diversity of different things and they were there for a long long long long time those are out in the ocean you're not finding dinosaur fossils but you are finding all these different kinds of things and then there's a layer and this layer is just a few inches thick and this layer is full of pieces of meteorite and it's full of pieces of things that were splashed by the meteorite above that layer it acts to being white mud but when you look in the white mud you find just one two kinds of things it's all the same the big ones are gone the diverse ones are gone lots and lots of stuff all over the world you've got diversity of a great sort then a splash from a meteorite and then almost nothing left and it's remarkable okay just a truly amazing amazing thing and so we're going to try to draw some pictures for that for you very quickly and we'll see what we can do with that so pop forward here just a little bit and what we see you will remember that we went back and we put things in order a long time ago we put rocks in order and we had a senozoic which had the age of mammals and below the senozoic with the mammals we had the mesozoic with the dinosaurs and below the dinosaurs we had the paleozoic with shellfish and below that we had the precambrian and if you go look in the text and this was algae and you go look in the text you sort of have a big idea of how when these different things happen it takes 6 billion years to go to start the world I actually can't remember what we wrote in the text it's about 570 million years ago to start the shellfish and what was this 225 I think million years ago to start the dinosaurs and this is 65 million to start the to start the mammals if you have a look at the diversity on the planet you find that there was sort of a spreading there were more heights showing up there were lots of different things popping in and then there would be a mass extinction so you get fear types and then you sort of get more types showing up and these are all different kinds of things that are alive and you're getting more and more coming in and then boom something wiped out most of the living things very short period of time and a few of them survived and then more things would show up and you get this great diversity popping in and evolution is creating new things and wow it's exciting and there's dinosaurs and there's little tiny mammals running around and then boom most of them get wiped out and you saw the line in the rocks where those different kinds get wiped out and then just a few things come through and then we get evolution that comes up and that's the diversity that we have this boom down here that wiped out the shellfish we're still arguing about that and there's people at Penn State colleagues that I have that work really hard on this and they're making great progress this boom up here was a meteorite and we have high confidence that it was a meteorite and some of the evidence for that I showed you pictures of and so why do we think it was a meteorite well what you find is this layer all the way around the earth and in this layer it is full of things that come in meteorites that are rare on the plants iridium is something that's very common in meteorites it's very rare on the earth so it is full of iridium which is a marker it is full of which is common in meteorites rare on the earth it is full of these little melted globs of glass globs that you get by melting them and so you've got to make it warm to do that the meteorite makes energy and so it can do that it's full of that shocked quartz it's so hard that it changed the mineral structure and so it is full of shocked quartz and you've got a shocked quartz to give it a shock and the shock in this time is hitting it really hard so this is hit hard stuff and it is when you get near there is a giant wave deposit and so there is a giant wave deposit and then we have the meteorite and they are all the same age and so we have the crater and this is close as we can tell it's the same age so that works now the meteorite didn't fall on the dinosaur's head it didn't kill them all off it's one meteorite how do you kill dinosaurs with a giant meteorite and what we think happened is a whole bunch of things sort of fire and ice some say the world war end in fire some say an ice from robert frost we think there was a sort of fire and ice thing there is this layer all around the world now if you've ever seen a meteorite coming in a shooting star coming in or a spacecraft coming in it gets hot friction with the air makes it hot and so things that fall down fast get hot so fast fall goes to hot now what happens if you blast it and then some amount of stuff it surrounds the earth and it all falls in at once it gets hot and if you can just imagine the sky suddenly being nothing but meteorite little ones coming back and make that layer the whole sky is a toaster boiler oven everything burns so as the stuff you blast rocks out they fall back they heat from friction and they burn ok the layer is full of soot in many places which is the black stuff that comes off of a fire there was a ginungous conflagration it appears and so we see the soot from the fire in the layer alright but what happens next as you know if you blast stuff up the big pieces fall down fast the little pieces fall down really slow and while they're up there falling really slow to blocking the sun and in addition the meteorite hits some rocks that have sulfur in and the sulfur makes sulfuric acid and so the meteorite hits sulfur rocks and that gives rise to sulfuric acid which is not nice if it rains on your head and it also gives rise to while it's up there making the sulfuric acid is blocking the sun and that gives you cold because you blocked the sun and it gives you really serious acid rain and so this is nasty and this is cold and you know if you get burned and then you get acid rain and then you get frozen out it's sort of hard to get through and so the observation is most of the living things on the planet died in one moment now 65 million years since this happened so this doesn't happen very often you don't have huge worries and much much much much much more danger of being run over by a car than you are being hit by a meteorite but it did happen and it did change the history of the planet and so we see this really sort of amazing story and we see the dinosaurs gotten out of the way by a space rock which actually made room for us.