 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. Yeah, my dad, what's going on? What's going on? Man, Boss Talk 101, we back, man. Say, we got a very, very special guest today, one that really don't need an introduction, man. I mean, he brought us a lot of music back in the day, man. And to this day, man, I'm going to be real with you, man. This brother right here is a multi-platinum producer. You know, he, this is, and gold, you know, like, gold album, platinum album, you name it. He done it, man. Mr. Lee is in the building. What's going on? Man, what's going on, man? Chillin', chillin', man. Man, I owe you all the things in the world. I ain't going to even sit here and lie to you, man. I told KLC when he was on here the same thing, and I'm telling you the same thing, man. Hey, man, thank you so much, man. Appreciate it. Because I never, I didn't, I wasn't even, I was so busy in the streets. I never looked beneath. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was young. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't until I got older that I started to understand the process of the music, man. So Mr. Lee, man, thank you. And man, hey, man, keep on doing your thing, man, with what you do, because I love them sounds, man. Appreciate it. Say, man, so. I want to ask something first before you get into it, man. You don't want me to go into anything. I want to ask something first because it's so crazy, Mr. Lee, the first time I heard Mr. Lee, I'm thinking if somebody Asian is going to come in here. Everybody say that. So till I look up Mr. Lee and I'm like, hold up, what's his real name? And I'm like, why do they call you Mr. Lee? That's just something that stuck when they, when I first started doing my music production, I didn't have a name. So the. And you have to have a name. Everybody has a name. The CFO of Rapalot, believe it or not, Bruce Tovo had gave me that name. Really? That's it? How long ago was that? It was like 1995. And you were how old? I was like 20. 20. Yeah. You know, I know. So you started young in the business. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So just tell us. I want to go back to Alexandria. I want to go back home because that was home, right? Yes. Pineville. Pineville. Yeah. Pineville. Yeah. But is it close to Alexandria? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So how is that a big population? No. So you down there, you pretty much something drove you out of there, which I think I know what it was like my story. Yeah. You know, like something drove you away from there, but it was God really. All the time. Yeah. Yeah. So when you, how old were you when you, when you left and where are you doing music when you was down? Yeah. I was at a rap group. We were doing little records and mix tapes back then and I was probably 22 when I left. Okay. Because you started out, you was playing the piano early on. Yeah. I was a, I was a church musician. I had two churches that I played for. I started playing at one when I was nine. Wow. Yeah. That's heavy man. Yeah. So you, so did you know then that you was, you had a gift? Not really. Not really? I'm not going to tell you. You were just doing it just to do it. I loved it though. You loved it. I had a love for it. You had a love. So the love of the music and playing in church and then my dad is a solo singer at church. You know what I'm saying? I traveled with him to countless churches, play for him and just the love he had for it and the love that he gave me to play the music. You know what I'm saying? That was something that I had that stuck with me after school. Wow. So that was a connection you and him had. Yeah. That's heavy man. I like it. My dad had a connection with me too. Yeah. Yeah. But it was in the woods. Working man. My shoulder hurting right now. He left me that. He healed, I guess, ownership and having a business early on. So I think him and my uncle's, you know, so that was something that I think I value to this day. But as a child you didn't see that. No, no, no. As you got older you realized what the lessons were. Yeah. You couldn't see it early on. I thought it was crazy. And just like our kids, our kids can't see it right now. No. They'll appreciate it later though. Yeah. Yeah. So when you came from down there in Louisiana like that man and you came up. I read somewhat about it that you were running from trouble. Yeah. Yeah. I had a simple burglary charge in Louisiana. And I had a drug case of marijuana trafficking charge in Anaheim County. Okay. Because, you know, I mean, once I got in trouble in Louisiana I started selling drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what everybody was doing there. Yeah. So what, oh sorry to interrupt, but I wanted, so you never wanted to be a rapper in the beginning? No, not really. Because most people, even although they ended up being a producer. It was different back then. They always started off being a rapper. Yeah. I was a producer first. Yeah, he was. We had a rap group and I started rapping. That's so crazy. That's different. When I read his story, when I was reading up on you, I was looking at Zay Tovan because he played still to this day in the church. And I had hit him up. We talked back and forth the other day. And I was like, man, that's kind of like Mr. Lee. He started on it. But this guy, I guess he's still, you know, he helps him and stays, I guess he's a little humble, but he still does his other music. But man, I mean, just something about having a good foundation to where you come from a place of music like that is to be respected, period. For me, that's the way I look at it. Now I might not be, I just know it's a respect there because you got some type of morals when you're dealing with that. Am I right? You have to. Yeah, yeah. And you were telling us about the trouble in the streets of Louisiana. Yeah, let's get back to it. I mean, you know, everybody goes, this is a small town. So if you're going to need any kind of trouble, it gets out there quick. So you lose jobs and all kind of stuff is printed all in the paper. So, you know, I went from this clean cut to getting in the streets. Did you get a secret indictment? No. Okay. And how old were you? I had to be in about 1920. Okay. So everything happened to you back to back? Yeah. It was God. That's the way he drive. I would have never got out of there if it wasn't for it. That's it. And so let me ask you this, because this is something I did when I ran from my situation, in my mind, it was bigger than what it really was when I was running. But when I faced it, it wasn't even what I, this ain't the first time, not the big one, but this is what drove me up to Dallas. Yeah. And I was like, in my mind, I thought they had me. No, I'm talking about had me in a hard place, but it wasn't as bad. Where I came from, it was, they had me. They had you. And I was going to be looking at about eight years. And that was your first time? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I had a public defender for a time. Oh, man. He going to sell you out. Yeah. And it was a black dude, you know what I'm saying? I don't care. He's really going to sell you out. He's reaching out to this day. You know what I mean? I see him. I'm just like... He could have been gone. Yeah. But it was all in God's hands. In God's plans. I'm not mad at him because everything happened the way it's supposed to. So when you pull up in Houston, Texas, just bring us up to speed on how the music scene, how did you get into the music scene in Houston like that? It was a guy named Lakewood. Okay. He was a guitar player and I met him at the guitar center. Okay. And he had a keyboard, the same keyboard I used to work on. He was trying to find somebody to teach him how to work on his keyboard at the guitar center. Wow. And so I was like, dude, I know how to work this keyboard. So he used to come and pick me up every day and we would work on tracks and I'd show different things. And Coice of Dilly, one of his friends worked at the record store that big chief, the VP of Rappelite, owned. Okay. Okay. So that's how I got my music to Rappelite. And big chief was actually the guy that signed me. He signed me to his production team. Wow. So that's heavy. But why Houston though? Not Dallas? When you came up... Houston was close. You know, my plug that I was doing my work with was from Houston. So that's who actually picked me up and brought me back to Houston. Same thing with me. I was coming to Dallas. It's the same thing. I was just wasn't going to Houston even though, because coming from where I come from, you can't... Going up 59, trying to get there, all them little old traps they got going through Nacodotus and Lufkin to hell with that. I'm going to go straight down 20 even though I know it can be a hurt or 30. I'm just telling you how it went in my mind. I'm not messing with that because that's too many. Yeah. And that's the way it was. See, I wasn't sure if it was because of the music. But he was positioned different. He positioned in Louisiana. Yeah. So you... What, I-10? I-10. Straight down I-10. Yeah. We all had... This is when it was going down too because back then, this thing we was doing really was fresh to the community. It ain't been out just a long time. The things we were dribbling, dabbling with. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah man. I like the story because it reminds me of me. But even though yours went a totally different way and you did some things that, hey man, nobody will ever do. Right. Nobody. You understand? Right. Nobody's going to do it. Yeah. And until this day, you've still been doing it. I'm always doing it, man. I'm going to let you have the flow because I know you're holding back what you got. So... You know, I hear about it afterwards. Well, you know, I was going to ask this. No, I still... You were just going in, you know. I ride with a flow of things. I don't ever just plan everything. You know what I mean? It just depends on how everything's going. I thought I was the one to be shooting from the hip, you know. Go ahead. So, growing up, you had your mom and your dad with you, right? That's... I still do. That's a blessing. That's a blessing. Come on, man. I wish I had my mom and dad. I'm jealous I'd be envious of that. I love my mom and dad. You should, man. That's good. I'll fight behind my mom. I know it, man. But if I could just... I lost mine at 24. I was young, man. As a matter of fact, it wasn't long after that. I really went through some stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You blessed, brother. Without a doubt. And you had siblings? I have one sister. One sister, no brothers? No brothers. No, because I know you said you were heading out on the streets. And so I was wondering how... Because we use our platform to help people out here. A lot of kids be watching as well. So, and they might be stuck in a certain situation or have a decision to make. Whether, you know, go this way or go that way. So, I really think that our platform can educate someone. You don't have to take that route. You can do this route. So, but you having a mother and a father in your life, how comes you ended up on doing what you did? Because I mean, once you become a man, you have to take your own ways in your own route. My parents gave me the tools to rebound from what I was going through. And the mistakes that I was making. I was able to understand that, you know what? This is not where I come from. This is not what I'm supposed to be doing. When I got caught in Anaheim County, I ran. Yeah. So, I was in the middle of a field. I prayed in that field. I tell people that all the time, but it was all... Man, you are so much alike, bro. It was really the purpose anyway. You know what I mean? Because I, the things that transpire before this interview are things that I do all the time with every single person that I talk to. Wow. And that's the purpose that I have to talk to people in a spiritual type of way and have that conversation. So, they gave you your space to make your mistakes. They did. See, that's what I always pray. Because I know that having children, you raise them the best you can, but you know that the world is going to teach them... Yeah, they're going to do it. I told my son that. I always just pray that God don't take their life. See, the thing about it is that it's a free will. You put yourself in positions to get your life taken. God is not taking it from you. You offer your life up when you do something to endanger it. You read what you saw? I told my son that. My son is getting ready to go to college. And I told him, I said, look, I'm not going to give you the speech about not doing drugs, not drinking, not having sex, I'm not going to give you none of that. What I'm going to tell you is that, hey, if you're going to smoke weed, make sure you know what you're smoking on. If you're going to drink, make sure you're not drinking something that you don't know that is anything in it. If you're going to have sex with somebody, make sure they're not attached with another guy. Make sure they're not. Make sure you're strapped up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That you know everything's in order when you're rocking around this one, if that's what you're going to do. I'm not going to tell you what you can't do because my hands are not going to be on you. Yeah, I like that. Exactly. That's just true. How many kids do you have? I have a total of seven. I have two. That's my God. Come on, man. I'm a Mendingo warrior here. I have two kids. I have two kids in Houston. My oldest son and my oldest daughter. And I have three step kids, like my children. They're my kids. Those are my kids. That's where you go down. I have two twin boys that are seven. Hey, man. That's it, right? That's the last of the Moegans. Yeah, yeah. That's seven of them, the last two. They're identical. So you went out with a bag. No, they're not. Twins. So you went out with a bag. Twins. He's a bad man. Yeah, but I love my kids. I love all my kids the same. Yeah, man. We do too, man. You know what I mean? So, man, that's just, I just always want to try to be an example to them and also let them know the struggles and challenges that I have and that I go through and how I overcome them because life is not perfect. You can't shield a child from trouble. Man, when I went through like different things. That's so true. If I go through something or if my kids go through some older kids, you know, I'd tell them, I'd be like, I didn't give you a good example because I didn't stay with your mother and miss right here because I got two older kids. But, you know, I try to make it up. We've been together for 20 years now, 18 years, you know? So it's like, I'm trying to show you you can change, but I know I didn't give you a good example early on to try to stop that generational curses. You see what I'm saying? You got to be honest with them, like instead of trying to accept righteous, and that's what we do a lot of time as parents. Yeah, I'm never going to do that. You see what I'm saying? I really express the fact of what I am and who I am so that they'll see what I went through the turbulence. Yeah, but it's not really a generational curse. It's just a mistake. Yeah. People turn it into a generational curse. My daddy did it too. Yeah, but it is what it is. He probably wasn't taught either, though. But then when it's passed down from generation in the same generation. It's passed down because it's taught that way, but it's not a curse, though. No, I wouldn't say it's a... That's a harsh word right there. Yeah, it is a harsh word. It is taught, and sometimes it's not taught verbally. It's taught by I'm seeing the way how you... Yeah, you see it. That's what it is. If you see that, then you subject it to what you see. And you do what you see. Yeah, unconsciously, you can do that. But you know what I hate about... I like that. And I'm not just saying that for the curse part because that's something that... I'll tell you, it's something that you don't see in what I believe in, but it's something that people say. Yeah, but you got to understand what you're saying. What you say is more powerful than what you do. And what you do, that's right. I get it. See, I'll always... I'll stand to be corrected because I know I read. It's not easy, you know what I'm saying? It's just like with me beginning to get into money and having money and making money. I've made millions of dollars. Of course. But my parents didn't couldn't teach me how to manage money that well because we was living check to check. That's right. You know what I'm saying? You know, I can't put the responsibility of what they didn't tell me because they didn't know it number one, number two, it comes a point in time where you have to seek your own understanding for things and knowledge of it and look at it for what it really is. Once you become a man and that kind of shit, everything is out there. Sorry, but in today's generation, I say that it's so much more easier to change that pattern because we have internet where it is freely ready for anybody who has a phone and almost everybody has a phone. They can research so much to learn things. That's why people say, oh, this wasn't afforded to me, okay, but in today's society it is. Everything is. Yeah. So it's only you're lazy, you're too lazy to look it up. Exactly. Now we all are somewhat at fault at that because we all don't look up everything that we should. Yeah. I was just going to say, like when you said your mother and father couldn't teach you those ways, the financial aspect of how you're dealing with your business because it's growing in a place where they didn't understand it. But the street life for me showed me, like the numbers that I started dealing with, with the street life showed me how to even evolve into my business. I'm going to be real with you. That was a part of it. Without the things that I had dealt with in the streets and the ways that I was coming up, I would have never seen those numbers. Yeah. I wouldn't have never seen six figures like that early in an early age or heavy five figures. You know what I'm saying? I'd have never seen that stuff. Same here. But the streets showed you that. I mean, streets gave me hustle. That's right. That's right. And that's all I just wanted to say that before I forget because I know a lot of times we think and that's a bad thing because when we were dealing with this stuff, it was a horrible thing in the neighborhood. It wasn't something that people look at you like, oh, that's that boy. Yeah. You remember? Am I right? Yeah. And the old folks watching TV, so they're seeing you too. They're like, oh, that's such a son. Look at Lee. Yeah. Lee Roy. Yeah, he ain't worth it. But I'm telling you, Lee Roy and mom and dad and them tried the best they could. Yeah. I was in that folder for a little bit. Right, right. I know you was because I was in it. So go ahead. No, but it's so crazy because I always say that in everything that we do, negative, there's a way in which you can turn that negative into positive because everything God allows us to go through is a testimony to help someone else. That's why I tell people when you go through things, don't be ashamed of what you go through and don't keep it for yourself. No. You want to always tell it because for me personally, telling it also heals me. It's not always for that other person but it can also help yourself to get over certain situations and not make that situation have power over you because when you hide it, you're making it have power over you. Yeah. So, you know, the thing, let's get back to the man. No, Mr. Lee. Okay. You know what I'm saying? The man, the legend. You know what I'm saying? The guy who? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you don't want to hear that but it's true, man. Nobody going to do, I'm not for to give nobody no roses while they're dead. Now I'm for to give them roses while they're here. You know what I'm saying? So when people come here, Mr. Lee, I'm going to have you to come back on here too because we got a little something I want to do for you too. So when I call you back, I pray that you'll come. You know what I'm saying? I got who we got. I suppose I have a miracle on the 4th of July. So, you know, we're doing different things for different people that I mean, when they come on this platform, I do little things for them. You know what I mean? Because I know I already mean something because at the end of the day, everybody don't do stuff for people when they should. You know what I mean? And we can't sit back and wait for people to applaud us when we know we great. Yeah. Come on, brother. You know dang well what you're doing and where you come from, brother. And having this on you, that's a whole another level. Don't play with me, man. Yes. I know because I live it. Yeah. You know, so. I'm just not even knowing that you're great because a lot of people are humble in the type of career that they're in. Yeah. It's just knowing the work that you put in. Yeah. And I think it's good to feel appreciated. Oh, without a doubt. You know what I mean? Well, I'm going to get to the music because I know that when KLC was there, me and him, we had a little conversation about breakdancing because I was a bad boy. And I had to let him know, nigga. You caught me. I moved to Vegas and I came home. I had my cardboard box under my arm. Yeah. You don't want to run up on me talking about what you're going to do. Well, you know, I was bad. Me and Mr. You used to compete. I don't care. I'm saying, but competing. That's what I wanted to ask about. So when you were doing your run, they were doing their run. He told me they did so many albums and he was happy about that number. Then he made some examples of of of, I think the examples he gave me was a Puff Daddy, Nim and Dre Nim. How many albums Master P Nim came out with. But I didn't think about y'all. You know what I'm saying? And I don't remember the year exactly what he was telling me. But you guys were working like crazy during that time. People in the south were working. They just wasn't getting recognized like the other people was, right? Definitely. So when you were coming up with these beats and stuff and dealing with the Phil Ford boys and first of all, how did you, I know you say Big Chief brought you in. Yeah. And Big Chief was one brought you in. Now how, how was meeting Jay Prince for the first time? And it was cool. Like y'all were young then. Yeah. I mean, Jay Prince is the man. You know what I'm saying? It was real cool. And one thing about it is Jay gave me an opportunity when nobody else was. You know what I mean? Jay Prince followed right in the whole situation with that. You know what I mean? It really was his leadership that caused Chief to give me the position that I had. You know what I mean? Wow. So I learned a lot from them guys. Was he structured like he is now back then? Yes. I always have been. Really? Yes. He would be at 23. Right. 22. Serious. Serious. You'd think that over time people get that way after learning certain things. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. But Mr. Lee, y'all was a big impact. Yeah. I learned a lot from because of that. His poise. Yeah. His willingness to help people. And you know what I mean? It even take on the whole issues with adversity with people talking about him because that's part of the business. You know what I'm saying? So you have to be ready for all aspects and he this man had an old soul then and he still do. You know what I mean? Very respectful. Yeah. He's wise. I'm still learning shit from him. I might not tell him that but I wonder I'd be like you know what when I used to sit by myself talk shit about this motherfucker about this shit he was doing. I don't understand why he's doing it now. That's the way it be right? Yeah. I look back on it's a lot of lessons in the situations that he and I had and I'm even just watching him do business and watching him the way he handled certain people and why and all of this kind of shit I really understand that shit now because yeah. Business is business. Friendships is friendship. Yeah. You have to have to separate the two. You know what I mean? And just because you call somebody don't mean that you are supposed to not follow the terms of business that you been maintaining all these years or whatever it is. You know what I mean? Whatever you have set whatever that business model is that goes for friends, brother, sister all of that. You know what I mean? That's not supposed to be. Yeah. Yeah. So being in this business as long as you are or being this business period you have to have a thick skin. Correct. Oh yeah. So in the beginning starting stages how hard was it for you to deal with criticism or deal with clashes and all of that. I'm talking in the beginning because you know now you're a veteran over a veteran. I didn't have that. You didn't? No. Really? I came in on fire. And I can attest to it because I know the song. Do you know what I mean? I didn't know I mean that first album though that one didn't go like everything else that second one. Yeah. It was over. I mean once I stepped in and my talent once I had once I had learned how to scale my talent back when I got to rap a lot because I was I'm a musician I'm coming straight out so I'm playing there I'm just playing all type of shit. Once I understood that I had to dumb it down and take my talent out of it and make the music and I got around people like Scarface that kept giving me the motivation and confirming what I had being around people like Mike Dean, N.O. Joe John B. Doe just coming straight out of the gate out the street being around these people and I'm soaking up everything so fast and rapidly until you know what I mean people used to they used to call me to come in the studio just to make music because I was making tracks in like 5 or 10 minutes I'm still doing it that way but when you say you had to take your talent out of it explain that I'm trying to get that I had to learn how to dumb down the musicality of what I used to do you know as far as playing keys all those stuff doing all of it I had to open the music up and play less so once I figured that out and I figured out you know what I mean really the schematic of how I wanted to make the music then it was on well yeah I just I mean when you go back to those 5th Ward Bars albums and stuff that you was dealing with man and rap a lot on a whole and the way that music was coming from Scarface man and that's the guy I put against anybody I tell him he's a great rapper a lot I said you maybe not Jay-Z this I said listen anybody and I'm not just saying it every time and I promise you you're not going and they're going to tell you he's the greatest rapper did you hear what I just said they're going to tell you they're going to have to he's going to make a difference he is like I'm telling you since we started I've heard more Scarface more UGK than anything else he is that's my era man yeah I mean he's the the originator he's where DMX 2Pac Jay-Z Nas everybody got a piece of him in their music that's exactly right we're still on the show we're still working on it it's been some stuff going on yeah that's my guy man we were supposed to play golf when he came here but we ended up not linking up but you know Scarface and me and Scarface the relationship is way deeper than music but I always tell people without him influencing me and demanding things out of me I wouldn't be who I am he was just here yeah yeah but the thing I can say this guy you know I smoked blunt with him back at Lakeside yeah yeah back y'all don't know nothing about Lakeside I used to get there early because I didn't really want to pay to get in I just get there early I have a lot of money when I run and I ran out of money you know what I'm saying yeah so I'm hanging out at the club Lakeside RJ's by the lake this was a long time ago in Dallas they had these places that's the same place and Scarface and Tushar was there and I rock with him many years after that me and Tushar I would see him all the time because he loved coming down south you know the thing that I see in you man was those beats that music what you done during that time is crazy priceless and when you think about when PMC came home you know I get on PMC cause here we go you gotta give me a PMC story and I don't want what you're giving everybody else either I want to hear about the music process cause he was a producer as well and then you cause that's what K.L.D. he gave me a story about their situation and how he helped him do some things you was already you was a vet you was in it too when he came to you what did you what did he think about your music and the way you processed versus what he was doing did he even think about it cause he's very particular yeah he is oh he was bad I mean he tells people he used to tell people all the time I had the closest drums to his than anybody else really yeah we used to he used to come me two or three o'clock in the morning we used to talk music all night man right before he died yeah he called me the day before he flew out to L.A. and he was supposed to be flying back and I was going to link up with him then and you know it was just a lot of different things he wanted to sit down with me we used to pick each other's brain and one thing he used to always say he said man he came to my house and when he we had had this had this situation when he had first came home but he didn't really talk to him and I wanted to get a verse from him okay and I talked to my partner Mike Moe and I was like man hit up him on the verse and Mike came back and said man Pip said 10,000 I was like man I ain't doing no I ain't doing no verse I ain't doing that shit Mike was laughing and shit and then Pip had came out to my house and did a verse from Slim Thug on Slim Thug's album and I produced the track and he laid it we exchanged our information and all of that shit and he started calling so that was when you first met him yeah that's no I met him no he met him before that before that but he just but this was when he came home yeah like this is what I'm doing now he knew he knew his value went up oh he already knew that he knew his value went up I mean he's always his value was always up no no no but coming home after all that Frida Pimp See y'all was doing and that nigga was like shit this is a routine I'm gonna kill you so I wasn't really personally with him then you know what I'm saying and then when he came to my house and he saw what I had achieved and how I was living he was he's like man I need to get your number I'm gonna talk to you I need to talk to you about something I said cool he hit me up with your brain on some different shit and we just became friends you know what I'm saying he's like man I just don't even see how the fuck you got everything you got this fast I need to see what's going on you know what I'm saying so we used to talk about shit all the time man but he was definitely a super crazy heavy influence on my music yeah yeah yeah yeah did you see him processing the music for us to produce it I did I had the same drum machine he had okay okay so y'all they could have conversations that other people couldn't have that was my dude man he used to sit I mean the dude used to call me and wrap over the phone he'd put the beat on wrap over the phone and you know he'd be like yeah man you the mother nicks don't know what to do with this shit man I'm gonna show you what to do with this man that's how he used to talk and shit but you know Pimp was a super intelligent guy man he was and he was so smart until he knew how to turn Pimp's hand and how to turn it off you know what the funny thing is that when he said that he came over and picked his brain to see how he got what he got remember we had Mr. McKay who told us that if we want to know certain things you go find we will go and find a couple of friends or people that we do who are like millionaires or who have way more and sit them down and ask questions because ask their story because it helps motivate you it helps open certain doors it helps you with information that you might not even be able to find maybe on social media or internet or whatever really understanding what you're doing being a Rappelot I learned that really quickly I learned it faster than any other person did and they some might not say it some may say it I'm one of the most successful people to come from Rappelot I know if you look at Mike Dean Mike Dean that's my brother he's successful he's doing a lot of great things you gotta you know of course car face really dean all those people but I'm one of those top 5 top 10 guys that did that and I was able to do it because once I learned the business and I looked at the examples of what was going on and the and the relationships that I was gaining and the opportunities that was placed before me I understood how to navigate it okay it was the other people that signed the same time I signed and they didn't get there it started being arguments about ownership of publishing of all type of craziness you know I mean they never rights to think how they thought but for me I felt like okay you know what I'm not going to argue about it I'm going to grind it out because one thing about it is I'm coming into a situation and talking about ownership of some publishing that has no value yet wow so I'm not worried about that shit I'm not worried about paying big chief 20% of management fees because I know the 20% that I'm giving him I don't have to go do anything when he say the work is done I'm showing up and I'm going to do my job and that's that's how I got there that's because of the foundation man I'm telling you a foundation kicked in for understanding business and understanding I'm going to be alright your gift is what going to make room for you you know that so you you was one that you really like I said when you the producer man is something different you know I could sit here and ask you questions like I asked Kay I was like how did I act you know when he come how does he how does Scarface process his music like when he's in the booth do we just go in there and just start going off because everybody you would know I'm just thinking he's thinking out see what I'm saying every artist is different Nipsy's like that Nipsy see you can't I met Nipsy a few times Nipsy the whole time I've been knowing Nipsy it would take him weeks sometimes months to complete a record like we did the last record he did it in a day he did it in a day let me go back to that one that I wanted to ask you about the process of this right here man I want to ask you about the process of how they think that was a very very very hot that's finished Mr. Lee what was that about man man that was about me resurrecting the song that was done in 1992 really what song that song right there was really hard to get he had it recorded it was recorded in 1992 I redid it in 2002 I think it was released in like 2004-2005 who did the beats before I don't know I think it might have been Pip I don't know okay but it was a real old song it was a throwaway wow and I resurrected and that song has a lot of it has a lot of stories it's a lot of attention that record that was the first record I ever did on a computer really? yeah I was going to ask you about the process I used I used a program called sample tank yeah and battery and I made it in digital performance did he come to you and say he wanted you to you would have Pip was in jail Pip was locked up I know that they brought me the recording of this record and I just I took all the stripped everything off and put the beat on it wow and I brought honestly and this ain't no knock on nobody I'm telling you it's not but I promise you if I had made that track and asked for them to wrap on it Pip might have got it but I don't think nobody would have got that that record had rock and all type of shit in it yeah it did it sure did it was before it's time really that's why I took it it was late it took two more years after I did it for the release but even more crazy like I said there's a lot of stories attached to that record oh that's why I played it I remember he got on the remix Jay-Z? no Jay-Z got on the original version he was I thought that was the remix nah that was the original version Jay-Z listened to the whole Bond album and that was the record that he chose so when I why did I think that was the remix I know cause you been saying that forever he said Jay-Z was like no okay when he did this song man I thought that was a I thought it was a remix nah that's the original he was saying that I didn't think he was on there like that yeah he was on there yeah he got lost in the sauce though you know what I'm saying these Southern boys wrapped him up cause I thought for sure I was like man cause you know back then remixes was real real popular you know what I'm saying for some reason I thought that but I must be wrong we'll go back and listen to that Jay-Z he came up there and he played that song he picked that and he picked Keith Pushin too oh he did he did but he ended up getting on the get throw record man that song was so hard and that's creating this again that's another story Nip that was Nip's favorite song that was that and I believe it cause it's one of mine that's a lot of people's favorite songs yeah oh that's it boy is he wrong Jay-Z and that was the last time Jay-Z would work with Pimp really before he passed that I mean it's really man it's like when you play that record it's nothing else that you can play the only person that has it's two more records that sound remotely the same as that and it's one by this singer that I did a record for called Body Rock okay and his name is Dewelle okay and that's a knock off of that record and then the three-way freak record on Pimp's post one of my record the one alone in the Pimp the three-way freak is a knock off of that too wow which Pimp had actually wrote to that record you know really the knock off of that record he wrote to how do all these guys get on that record I mean it was just that record it was just that how did it cause Jay was on it was it cause Pimp was going Pimp got on it last right no bro the vocals from Bunn and Pimp were recorded in 1992 I didn't hear that at first I thought you were saying the beat was made you were saying the vocals was on it the whole thing was made that's what I got the whole thing was made and then it came to him and he straight to it that's why I'm telling you that's why I'm saying what I'm saying is like I'm an innovator okay I get wrapped on that record man because they wouldn't have got what I was trying to do my little brother that Slim is my little brother I used to give him beats and he's like he said Nick I'm not no rock star I said exactly that's what I want to try to make you beat like I sometimes even like with Slim like now Slim is like you know what I mean Slim is like my family you know what I'm saying I give this dude some tracks and it'll be two years later and he'll pull them out and say bro you still got this track sometimes most of the time I have it that's cause you're ahead of your time and he's like man I got a song for this and I just I put my head in my hands I'm like I know you got a song for it because I heard it before you ever did it that's right you know what I'm saying but it's like it take him a while to get to it it take a while you know what I mean I'll be so far over the curve still today I do some shit and man I can hold onto some tracks for years and then start playing them and everybody's like oh man that is crazy it's like oh wow that's crazy man but that's talent man you just usually you can see it's like it's hard for everybody else even on my job today like it seems like everything is ridiculously hard for others and it makes and some kind of way God makes it easier because if you got the gift then it's second nature I make music like breathing but where do you get that inspiration like okay do you some beat makers say I take from old songs old beats that I've heard and I make it into the newer generation I take it from my emotions whatever I'm feeling that day it's going to come out of my music when I had two my wife had two twin boys before the twins that we have now and they passed away okay sorry to hear that and the music was therapy for me and I can go back and listen to my music and tell exactly how I was feeling I was excited when I made that record and that I had access to guitars and stuff to do the things that I wanted to do that's why it became I like that wow so what beat did you make when you were sad? it was a song called when lose a draw with 10 stars face yeah I've seen this yeah that man that's a lot that's a lot you know I'm melding so I'm gonna ask you how was your emotions when you made this? I was on top of the world man that's right I just got my 600 beans oh yeah you got oh you had one? oh man the square hand like yeah yeah yeah I was amazed bro you know really it was a situation where Kanye was supposed to be their next producer they had some type of issue with the first producer they had oh so Fifth War boys was gonna be produced with with Kanye West yeah okay that record right there is no that wasn't Fifth War boys that was do it I'm sorry okay that record was actually a Mary Jane remix really? yes that's what that was I can hear that and they didn't use it and the Fifth War boys took the record and that was history it was history that record right there bro that record really got me that's when the mister came on the league that's what I'm talking about man yeah Fifth War shot into the Fifth War boys man what he had now they still working man I need to get them on the show bro man you need to get them man I'm telling you I'm gonna work on that man you gotta help me out with that cause lowlife is my cousin okay E-rock and 007 are like my brothers I gotta get them boys on here man like I say I be loving cause I see what other people are doing and I be like man I be wanting to try to get those stories out like I know our interview is not gonna go like whatever whatever else you done it ain't gonna be the same here because of the way our energy is and we vibe and you know and I just like the process of music people need to know about that especially the younger generation we complain about the younger guys but a lot of times we ain't giving them something to look at I believe that even if they're looking at it if it don't look a certain type of way they don't even accept it but a lot of times I'm mixing it right you know I'm bringing on the half pipe I'm bringing on the I'm bringing on the Sergeant J's who made Busted and then I'm coming with you and then I'm you see what I'm saying I'm mixing it man music we also do mental health we do everything yeah man so I have a question go ahead just like how Pimsy came to you and actually your advice or picture brain do you also help a lot of younger kids or other people even up to today every day every day that's a good question I'm accessible that's why as soon as you hit me oh yeah you was there man and you don't hold back you know some people they only give a little they want to give you so much I don't hold back and sometimes I get in trouble with people especially when I'm trying to help them my process is unorthodox I do things man like we was talking about all along I do things that other people won't do I take chances that other people won't take wow I'm a perfectionist and I will push back if I don't feel like things are right I don't do things for instant fame I do them for a lifetime if I can't plan a seed and get a harvest off of it every season then I don't want it how caught up do you get with the people that come to you and ask for advice because when they come to you and ask for advice I know they're not just coming to you one time they're coming to you a period of time and like for me I have a big heart so I care about people so when they don't do as I instructed I sort of get mad I don't get mad I just become unaccessible yeah that's the best teacher because it's going to bite them in the butt because the next time you want to come through and you need to ask me for something after I told you not to do something then it's going to be a fee for it you're going to have to pay me for my time there it is and that's going to help you to understand even better and I'm really starting to do it anyway because at the end of the day I mean knowledge is power and power turns into money too no no no time yeah all that stuff everything you know and it counts right now for me really a lot of it I mean at the end of the day I mean you can't go to me in there Top Fortune 5 Top 100 Fortune guy and say give me the process of what you did so I can use it I want to use I want to do the same thing you're doing they're going to you're going to go through a whole bunch of people talk to them it may be a video they might send you hey here's a video pay for this and you can and you'll learn the process for that you know that's definitely a lot of people that like when she was saying earlier when my wife was telling you about how we go to people being an engineer and designing system I'm able to walk in those office because I designed fiber optics so because I've been doing it for so long those doors open up for us and we can talk to certain people that other people would never be able to just walk up to you know what I mean so but it has to be you never lie you stay consistent all those things matter you see where I'm coming from if you don't do those things nobody's going to believe me nobody wants because that's what you're talking about integrity and staying focused and not doing things out of order you know but sometimes I think it helps that sometimes I think it helps when you make it a little bit more difficult because it it shows how hungry the person is because if it's so easy and accessible they'll come to you and it is like oh I mean in this thing in time it doesn't even matter because everybody's when you're looking at the internet you're looking at social media you're looking at the access that is given to every single person everybody has a voice they control you they can praise you they can do whatever everybody wants instant gratification for things nobody looks at the process of longevity they don't look at the stair stepping times that you have to take and the path of that is taking a step at a time they want to get to the first step and get all the way to the top at one step and it doesn't work like that the people that take the time to embed themselves in what they do they are giants in whatever business it is and it lasts a long time a lot of people ask me that it's like how are you able to be in a music business for 30 years because I cannot work everybody that's it I know it that's it and I call my own shots and the most important thing is not being financially enslaved to other people and staying prayed up that's first how important do you think it is to learn how to follow before you lead very important you see where I'm coming from when you first started out it's very important because now you have a lot of people that are following people even if they're not want to be leaders they are following something that is not worthy to be followed and now you're producing a bunch of crash dummies you're producing a bunch of processes that are not the right processes the wrong things are becoming right because of all of those situations okay so so the thing I definitely see in you man is you and I'm going to say this because I thought about it before you came and I might be wrong I might be right did you do the pox any apoc music after you passed away yeah that's what I was thinking about I say how is it and then I ask you that then how is it that you how is it that you process this music after Nipsey Hustle is gone after Pock is gone once you push it out let's talk about how you process it first then I get to the other part how do you what is it different now it got to be different I mean when I worked on the Pimpsies album I cried see that's what I'm talking about see this is you know what I mean that was my friend you did it with PFC too yeah you hear a person that's not hearing no more breathing laughing giggling in the background all of this kind of shit so it's difficult you know what I mean like I did I got a Blue Lashes 3 record that I just I know and you said I think I've seen Rick Ross and somebody else and even with that you know what I mean I cried when I hear people or see people like oh maybe you shouldn't put a tray or you shouldn't do that I don't even care that's how I was able to to cope with the loss that I had yeah I just seen that and I said man we don't interview like other I want to talk about the fact of that process for you because I know that process has to be difficult it's hard you see what I'm saying yeah because at the end of the day you've already built relationships with these people now you got to go and make albums after your people you loved have passed away and you don't not only did it with Pac but you did it with PMC and now you're dealing with it with Nipsey and that's a different whole mode man that's something and I probably you know what I mean even with that I said I probably would never do it again though with nobody you know what I mean even with the glue I'm not sampling that sample no more I'm not doing none of that it's like when I talk to Scarford that's one of the main things he say hey man if I die don't touch nothing else it did just let me let me lay down he's funny guy though do we be joking or is he serious? not really serious and if anybody ever come to me if something happens to him I would never touch his music because he asked me that's right that's respect and I'm never going to do it nobody else really I don't want to do that you know what I mean that's people don't understand how hard that is and then the effects of it and how it affects the people that are still here that was connected to him as well me and you talked about that you know I was telling I say it's something about that for him to be able to do that yeah that's something to think about there's something to talk about and because these youngsters are losing people every day yeah I'm telling my artist and they don't even get to go as far it was just one past a couple of weeks ago oh no about a week ago we were talking about on here they killed that you know suicide suicide and it's like man you know to see you dealing with that you know those guys that's something else man it's healing in that you got to try to get that's a process you go through traumatic stress right and then you got to go through and try to figure this out like you say you cry yeah it ain't nothing it ain't you know I mean it ain't nothing clout chasing about that yeah you know I said listen to somebody that you love and listen to them and it's giving you a false sense that they're there but they're not wow I want to ask you about this because you know this one he was living when you did this one right yeah so this one here you know that this makes it awesome yeah that was my boy right there I ain't meet him like you but I met him I met him at the hotel yeah we talked too yeah I was like man you ain't working hard no more but this was because we got stores me and him I used to go to a store to take my wife yeah cause I like black I would be in this you know what I'm saying so how did you man listen to that man see that right there Mr. Lee you know what I'm talking about what did he say when you first showed him that man he gave me the fire mode what was coming though you know what I mean like the victory lap was a was a collection of a bunch of records that he that he had did years it was years of work that he did okay I mean Blue Laces is one of the newest if not the newest song that he had did on victory lap yeah yeah you know I mean and it was working and doing a bunch of stuff and I called him nephew used to call me up and you know how guys I got frustrated with him because he was moving around so much we never just got to work and he calls me and it's like hey man I wrapped up the victory lap but I need a Blue Laces to record and I'm not wrapping it up without you on it so you know what I mean I need you to do this record and you know what I mean I took a day to decompress and not have the vibe of the first one in my head and I knocked the track on about 10-15 minutes I sent it to him this one yeah wow you how good that sound man stop playing man that's why this boss talk on one one-on-one man we don't do it like others we come through man yeah I'm on these niggas' neck yeah so do you only do beats for rap or do you do beats I'm a music producer everything I produce Backstreet Boys I've done Backstreet Iggy Azalea yeah Iggy Azalea I discovered Iggy Azalea yeah yeah yeah I was gonna ask you about that you do gospel gospel is where my roots at I got a whole gospel album right now yes sir when is it coming out soon I'm Dr. Dre yeah yeah that's why you be doing it I live with my music and I don't you know what I mean that's a bad habit how long does it take for you to put it out man I've been working on that for like five years no yeah and when you hear it it's crazy who do you have on there I got a record with this guy from Dallas his name is Moses okay and he's on a lot of records that I have I got this new artist that I just met that drove from Kansas to meet me and talk to me for ten minutes he drove down here oh you said ten minutes yes ten minutes wow and he had a why ten minutes man he just I didn't even know he was I was like dude so what you doing he said no I came down here to talk to you I was like for real wow and he had this record called God in You and his name is CSG I'm gonna be working with him I got a record with Trader Truth on it I got a record with Nipsey Hussle on it wow that's gonna be handy man I got a bunch of records man like that hasn't even been put out and that's the gospel yeah the message Lil Kiki's on there Lil Kiki on there Lil Kiki's on there man it's not Lil Kiki man Slim Thug man these Texas boys man stop playing I'll get hyped up a lot of people go gospel it's needed you know what I mean the message it's been in me all this time it has to you told that at first yeah so you need to put it out come on now stop don't get ready to put it out that's crazy man that's the way it poses to be man cause that's gonna help people that's the one thing about your and my generation that the music would really reach out and touch and help somebody even a hardcore rap and that's what people I've seen the process of how you guys did it you know for us cause I listen to it I love music brother and at the end of the day you guys man hey man I'ma say it again thank you so much man top three artists of all times man you gotta give them to me top three top three rappers it don't matter it can be any genre any genre three of them female or female you gotta give them to everybody come on here give us three we don't want but three only three number one K.L. gave me come on now number one is Scarface off top bam Texas man stop playing my boy Luz Allen but he hit Texas hardcore Scarface Scarface in the building brand Jordan that's number one number two man gotta be Jay-Z Jay-Z man Jay why Jay-Z man Jay-Z Jay got jib business man Jay-Z's a businessman but Jay-Z got skills man man he's got he got skills yeah you met him talked to him and everything else man you're the truth man I seen him work I seen him I seen him I seen him sit at the mixing board I put a track on and the dude just rapping and his head his head just moving getting in the booth and it all come out come out like it wasn't nothing like it wasn't nothing bro like you processed the music this nigga rap like you processed the music yeah he's a he's a genius did you hear what I just said you told me in minutes boo boo boo yeah that's what he doing this nigga going there boo boo boo and it's a hit wow that's heavy man hey Jay I'm a little hard on you but boy you're making waves today shout out to Jay-Z number three number three is Biggie slash Nas I ain't playing this you got to get it you can't do that you can't do that it's Biggie it's Biggie it's Biggie it's Biggie all day long yeah man that's a I mean really why not put Tupac you can argue and say Scarface Biggie and he knew Tupac why not Tupac over Biggie oh she upset come on now because when you talking about the best rapper no we just we saying my top three rapper has to do with the with the skills and everything else Pac was the best one of the greatest entertainers of all time when it come to rap music period he was the best revolutionary guy that rapped in the game period his message was the one of the most felt messages as a rapper period but when you talking about rapping Scarface Jay-Z Biggie them skills but how did Tupac process his music did you get to see him I didn't get a chance to see him but I've seen I've seen our laws do it and you know me and those my brothers that was just like him they taught him he gave them an impeccable hustle skill set to do music and Pac would have conversations with you with his music he wasn't the most skillful rapper there was that's why my top three don't have him in it top five he's got to be in it so top three is going to be Scarface Jay-Z and Biggie that's our top three for the day and out of all of okay because you work with so many musicians yeah Slim Thugger who just beginning up to today all the way up to today some who are beginning some who already passed so forth out of everyone you've ever met who would you say to you blew your mind because of their talent it's two it's Scarface and it's Nipsey wow Nipsey was romantic with his music that's what you said he meaning he would process it maybe a week when you hear it it's going to be your mouth it's going to be in your mind like that yeah that's just what it is he had that talent when I heard the first Blue Laces record it was months after we did it and I came from the track before I ever heard it I heard it and I was like oh that's it you normally write your beat write your beat sorry make your beat make your beat and then contact someone and say hey this is you or do they come to you and say hey I need for you to do my thing is I normally like to get in the studio feel the artist vibe and make the track I know what I feel vibes I feel I look at body movement when I start working and making the track and forming the pattern of the drums and the instrumentation that I put in I can do an instrument and play it in front of you and if your body don't do a certain type of thing then I know you're not you're not feeling it but see your body is like this so if I if I catch the right vibration your body's gonna jump like this you gonna know that's it it's gonna do it bro yeah yeah yeah it's just gonna happen yes sir if you hit the vibe right with this word it's gonna bounce up and down wow have you ever met anybody you couldn't write a beat for because the vibes wasn't right no they boy bad nobody no no no some people do have bad energy no no he's music they love music but I make the music the music is gonna be made based on what they're feeling if you say I'm gonna make something sad if you're aggressive if you wanna talk some shit I'm gonna make something that's gonna make you talk shit sometimes I I would sit in the studio and just talk and not even let them know what I'm doing I would just talk and just see where their mind is at and then when I go hit the keys whatever the vibe I got from you was coming out in that music how many instruments can you play um man about five or six hey man yeah so let me ask you this how deep 300 how deep 300 we're just on here man yeah yeah yeah he say the greatest rapper alive that's what he said yeah yeah that's what he said that's what he said what did you say I mean he's definitely got the greatest hustle for sure different it's totally different it's tangible I believe he's the greatest rapper alive because he believe it oh yeah yeah straight facts I mean I think he's a special talent he's his music is something else he's an opinionated sucker oh yeah he's gonna argue he's gonna get you a good argument I love it though I love the dialogue I love the dialogue of talking to him yeah you know what I'm saying and because he has a perspective on things yeah and I love to hear what it is yeah you know he's a student and he's a a lover of what he does and that's so big for me yeah I love it you know what I'm saying like I've done almost ten hours with this guy yeah yeah yeah and I haven't charged him a dime but you know the dude is the dude loves you man so you know that's the whole game man when we giving out that brotherly love man five or six hours deep before I ever met him ooh that's heavy man let's see man you've been through so much you know people man I mean you know what it is man a lot of people I'm a vicious business man I would admit that I am and I've learned how to become that over the years I wasn't always that way okay but I'm on my business and I would be very vicious with you if you don't handle your business with me the way you supposed to okay and I will give you exactly the same pie you made me I'm going to give it back to you man and when I give it to you you're not going to like the way it takes so let me ask you this go ahead but with Aldi Aldi gave me love he gave me enthusiasm he gave me inquisitive mind questions and all of that and that I admired that so much until I was just deep in it I was like man we just going to keep working you know I was sending tracks we just working it's understood it's not even spoken I mean dude we on the crowns ten I see I know I researched something like man and I love the music I had no none about it yeah he called when I listened to it I said oh man I'm so happy to be involved in his career because the music means something he's going somewhere it touches and he does it on his own terms he doesn't follow so he don't compromise he doesn't follow the trends of the yeah yeah yeah of the rules of everybody else with everybody think like he threw me back one time when I first did the records with him and he's like yeah the records is done and I listen to one record and then I have one verse on it and I'm like nigga he's just I think I hit him he's like yo man this song got one verse no that's it that's done it's done so okay no hook no nothing I'm like I went back and listened to it again I was like okay I get it I get it he's like man just let the beat play man I want to feel the beat just let it and you know what when he did that shit the first time which one song was that I forgot what it was okay but when he first did that bro I respect him even more because I said you know what he's doing this shit by his own rules yeah yeah and it's nothing like that and I told him that and that's why he's following his world because every single time he gives a person a project it's something that he's never done before on there well bad man yeah bad I listen to it bad like I said I like him is there anybody that you haven't worked with yet that you would love to work with not really not really I want to go back and get that Iggy Azalea Azalea story how that how that all happened I met her in my space she was 16 and this was before she was with that guy yeah her name was Regal at the time so she would whine on her whine on her whine on her whine on her through you okay whine on her was supposed to be I get it he's supposed to be a writer but he ended up being something I know but anyway I discovered on my space and I told her once she turned 18 to come down and I started working with her she came down because of you yes she came down why was she living in she was living in Australia first then she got had a boyfriend in Miami for her 18th birthday she showed up in Houston she said I'm coming to work with you she was ready bro and she had a mouth on her she was opinionated about she didn't mind saying what she was at the end she's still now that's how she's been so that ain't nothing new no that's not no front so when you grab and try to work with her you're going to get all of that you're going to get every bit of that shout out to Tilt I'll let you boy so you know what I mean I have developer and I pretty much gave her the tools that she's using now man that's dope because she did she done numbers man yeah she did numbers I think she could have went way she could have went way what stopped her having people nodding at her when she's not doing the right shit and having people not telling her that some of the shit you're doing you're going the wrong way okay you know when you have you can have the wrong support system you know if you have any support system you're just going to encourage you to do whatever then that's not it and that's so crucial but then some people are very intimidated by a person who is mouthy or who is very opinionated so that they'll be thinking one thing but because they know you're going to keep you know going back with them they don't want to even have to stand up to that a lot of people will compromise themselves in the process that they have because of the money to sure to me I don't care I mean I will walk away from you I don't care what type of bag you got I don't want to deal with you I'm not dealing with you not dealing with you it just seems what it is I got to ask this question because I ask a lot if Mr. Lika go back and speak to Lee Roy back in I want to say back in Louisiana or back in Houston no in Houston when he first got there no back in yeah back let's get back to Louisiana back when he was younger and before the streets hmm damn that's kind of hard because there's streets coming man no no no no when he got to Houston man what would you tell yourself to try to help you prepare for what you're about to face when you got to Houston need that young guy that 20 year old or 21 year old I mean just be prepared mentally because you're about to go in to have the knowledge to understand what you're doing okay you know I mean and not fall subjective to things that are on the surface hmm and what I mean by that is that the same thing everybody else is doing and now I've done that shit already yeah you know we spend 25 30 40 thousand dollars a day yeah the watches yeah all of the Rolexes yeah she's playing like your yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't you know what I mean I feel like everybody has everybody they have they are financially set in a lot of ways but they destroy themselves every day with things that are not that's not even relevant materialistic yes everything's on the flash yes man that shit is wearing our people out our culture is suffering by yeah it's suffering big time buying and we are empowering the wrong people with our money wow I get it man I don't want to hold your favor but I do want to ask you about the legend talk what's going on with that this is a little key key man okay that's his brand this is a little key key tell him to come do an interview I'll put some in here and I'll buy some man I had to listen to me man you hear what I said you is partner so hey man he been over there for 15 years he a black on business he a solid dude you bring it over he say he'll buy it from you give him an interview oh he's going to call you immediately did you hear what I said did you hear what I said I'll buy some from you I had powwows in here yeah he going to do all that listen to me because he ain't going to turn down no business you want to talk about somebody that's a hustler yeah no key key don't get no credit for the shit that he does oh yeah and what he's done yeah and the success that he has had, has and have wow he doesn't get I'm going to be honest with you I love the way it looks because it's simplified he don't get he don't get all his just do man that dude is incredible yeah you know I mean I don't know nobody that between him and Slim I don't know too many people that can out on Slim oh yeah Slim go hard too I don't care what they say I've always I see Slim more because I be on his IG but I'm definitely I'm definitely if he comes if he come give me my interview I'm buying some of that merchandise I'm putting it up in here I'm putting it right I'm going to put it right up in here man we ain't getting them on the phone yeah man might be tired of yeah yeah y'all be busy man I respect y'all man he can definitely come down so much you know what I'm saying Trillipo came down B Banks came down I've had some Houston artists who else just came from Houston that young girl but she was kind of from Tyler in Houston yeah like you say the guy they've been coming I mean how you like the setup we didn't ask you we just got her we just got in the game we cruised in about four and a half months ago and even more they scared they said man what is that you know what I'm saying boss talk 101 young Don look at that I said man I got somebody want to buy you a material from you right there all your clothes man they want them in the store yes sir what are you doing I'm talking about you want to get you want to take a look at your garbage right now this guy right here man hey how you doing man this boss talk 101 man EC yo I told him I said if you get a little Kiki on this show I say I put the merch in my store I've been there 15 years black on being this brother he said he said he said you need to buy he said you want to buy and I told him I said you don't say don't buy shit I'm going to spend some money with it I've been spending with everybody else I spent I've been selling a cool since 08 when it first came out I've been doing this I bet I got you we're going for the play together I got you hey man hey I enjoy your stuff man a big fan oh shit that's a bit I'm going to tie you in with him man alright bro alright yeah I support our people I just didn't know he had no clothing line did you I didn't know that's he like that right there man like him Nipsey was like that Slim is like that see that's how me and Nipsey rock because how long he's been doing this how long he's been doing the clothing I've been doing this for man about ten years see and I didn't even know it and he's been making a grip off of this shit let me tell you something man if like me and Nipsey man because of magic we go to a para show in Vegas we've been going we everybody meet there that's why you see all them pictures on the wall or in New York or wherever the clothing that if you dealing with clothing you dealing with me yeah I'm doing it now too I got a blue lace really so you are you going to do magic or you ain't messing with I'm going to mess with that I got a blue lace if you come up if it's in August or the night through the 11th if you come up man we going to rock out because it be going down yeah I'm doing all of it I got shirts that have all of my hits on it so you going to bring me some yeah I'm going to buy them from you because I don't do no consignment none of that I put my money up because I'm going to hustle harder for me I ain't going to hustle and if I pick it I want it in this money right there that's the way I do it man and I told Don Chief I ain't heard back from him he got some shoes he got some shoes yeah I try to look out for anybody man because I already been buying clothes all these years and I had 7 stores man that's dope so God been good I got to raise my kids in this if I don't do nothing else man lead by example yeah man that's it man so man we love you bro I'm going to tell you that right now appreciate it see that's the cold part about see we killing them man he just ain't knowing about loving each other so we love you brother and I do know that I'm going to talk to my money you know what I'm saying he be playing that golf so I promise you he's going to have it that is a game that you have to have I'm a caddie I'm going to get out there if he had a point of course he better leave me alone he coming bro he coming I'm going to take somebody else he ain't going to fade either Scarface Scarface go on he dead okay I'm going to put it together I'm going to talk to my cousin I'm going to see what you all talking about I'm going to say six time man I can promise you they for to come for you you better bring a shit I love it man tell you man you going to be on the phone and be like hey man I got my cousin right here just bring his ass on they going to be I know I played today I know it that's what I'm telling you I was like man he was like you ain't going to get me on that golf course you got to get I said I got to get him I'm playing on that shit man I'm going to get in I'm sure enough to put me something together I know it too they were one of them they used to go more but now they they stay by the IH too same thing man I love it man I'm just going to watch and enjoy I'm ready man I can tell I'll be the catty making tracks yeah that's the same shit well thank you for coming on the show man we love you and you say you're going to come back I'm coming back I already know it if you come back I'm coming yeah you giving me your word that you're going to be here so we're going to make another date we come back from Vegas and all that and I'm going to ask you to come back on the show let's do it man thank you so much man I appreciate it I appreciate the guys who got me in contact with you man I love the way everybody supporting Boss Talk 101 Mr. Lee a platinum listen a platinum producing a producers in the building and y'all know already man our interview went hard man I love it man Boss Talk 101 here we are