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Thank you and I hope you enjoy this week's episode. Bwm, we're on! Yes! And today's guest, we've got Comedian Count Dracula. How are we brother? I'm alright, who are you then? I'm coming over a cold, so my voice is going to sound a bit rotten. That's alright mate. First of all mate, I just want to thank you for coming on the show. That's cool. You're doing the massive things online, social media, you're booming, you've drew a lot of attention obviously with the Nazi Doug thing, which will touch on mate because a lot of people saying you're a Nazi, you're this, you're that. And it's all bullshit. I know you're a great guy, we met you at a BBC job and ever since we've just been that long done. That lasted long done. Aye, so we got offered a job, we took it and then we get bin fit. Front page, you're a Nazi, I'm a thug in my garafiori. I think it was a sleaze. Which is pretty shit, but that is where it is, it's nice getting that food. But I always like to go back to the start with my guests. Where they grew up, but part of Germany in that, your face. Just kind of where it all started for you and how you're getting the weight you're involved in now? Well, I grew up in Coatbridge, I was born in Glasgow, but I only lived there for like a year or so when I was a baby. I moved to Coatbridge and that's where I grew up. We grew up in Summerleigh in a one which was a brilliant area to grow up in man. I'm used to getting a kicking. But I ended up, I went to Coatbridge High and all that, which was brilliant. Brilliant being a Catholic in a proddy school that was fun. Mayor beatings. But then after that, how long have I been in Coatbridge? I stayed there, I was like 27. I'm about 27, 28 and then I moved it. Freedom. Freedom, aye, but it was basically because I kind of had to move because that was after the Nazi past. I moved somewhere a wee bit more remote, which I keep very, very secret. No, you need to, because you made world news, world headlines that because you got a dog. First of all, you're a comedian. I watch guys like Frankie. Depends who you are. I double yesterday, people are questioning that. The news still like to go comedian with the quotes around it. You've got shows, you travel everywhere, you've got clearly a fan base. Listen, I watch Frankie Boyle, I used to watch guys like Roy Chubby Brown. These guys are fucking sore off the cuff, they say things. You've got a Doug to do a Nazi sign. You're saying guys are Jews, the Doug was putting its horn up. And if I'm honest, I was laughing, I thought it was funny. That doesn't mean I hate Jews or I'm a German or I'm a activist or I'm a right winger. I don't know fuck all about left wing, right wing. Only thing I know is about chicken wings and everybody was yesterday. I can remember when I was trying to talk to you about it and I felt like everyone I was saying was just a fan. You were like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know about any of that shit. Yesterday when we put it on that you were coming on the show, I was getting so much abuse. I know you're a Nazi and you support this. I'm like, what the fuck? And one of the guys who was saying, because somebody says, why are you giving him a platform? First of all, you've got a much bigger platform than me. And I said, second of all, the two of us grew up in Germany together. And fuck me, man. That was that. I can't have worms. But the funny thing is, this guy is storing me a Hugo Boss t-shirt on, giving me abuse. No, no, in effect. David certainly got a geese, he's second name, but he's giving me abuse. He's given me a Hugo Boss t-shirt on. Just for the record, Hugo Boss was designed the Nazi uniforms back in the day. They did a great job. So it has been mental for you. So when you were doing the video, you dug down the Nazi sign. What was going through your head? I was just like, my message was just always ranting and raving about this. Fucking dug, man. She was just going, oh, he's so cute, he's lovely. She would even come up, lifting him up and shoving him in my face. Going, look at his wee face. I'm like, I'm fucking trying what to tell you. Fuck off. I thought it would be really, really funny to get me to something horrible. And I was already into the age of comedy. I was already into the age of jokes. I was already into the internet and certain circles who enjoy such things. So I just thought, that's a great idea. In fact, it was when he gives you a paw, he gives you a paw, right? Whenever he gave me a sweet. And as I put my hand in, I dropped the sweet, but he put his paw up to give me his paw, but I dropped it and I pure went to pick it up. But he's still sitting there with his paw up and I went, ah, that looks like a wee salute. I went, fucking light bulb. That's where it came from. So I just managed to get him to do it. So, like, react happily whenever I said a certain phrase. It's because he thinks it means treat. That's why. You're trained him to think. Can he untrain him? Still does it? Or these years later, he still does it? Why this certain thing make world headlines? Why was this the joke that everybody would fucking shake their head and go, oh, that's terrible? That's just because we live in the age of, like, the new outreach media. Like, find out something, especially the main thing that's in the crossfires right now is anything, you know, racism, bigotry, antisemitism, all of these things, because people like to constantly preach and scream about these things because I'm such a good person because I'm against it. And they like to, it's called virtue signalling, basically everyone, everyone, I'm a good person. Give me a pat in the back for being a good person. Bravo, well done. You've got the same opinion as 99% of the world. I don't have any relations. Because there was a video on last week, right, with Michael Jackson, somebody done a video says, and they were kidding on them, Michael Jackson, did you see it? And the guy says, oh, I was a good perifyle. Yeah, I fucked them kids. But nothing was says about that. That was a well-known committee in America. But yeah, you got a dog to raise its paw. And kid on, it's German or Hitler and it fucking caused a shit storm. The thing is, like, see when it comes to sort of outrage, right, that those jokes you could maybe say were on the same level, right? It's the subject is what matters. It's a case of there are some subjects you can joke about and some that you can't. Well, at least that's what people think. I think you should be able to joke about anything. And I do. And I think so. And if you're on stage, if you're, it's a craft, it's an art. It was just, there's hundreds of things, there's millions of things at stake. It's said that are unacceptable. Frankie Boyle used to talk about disabled. He used to talk about fucking crazy stuff. And people laughed and supported it. You're going to get people in that. I don't agree with certain things, obviously, but it is for you because it was freedom of speech you were trying to end up because you get charged for it. You get done. When the Polis came to your door, what happened? That was the thing is, like, see the video, the way I was going to work, the video was, I put it on my YouTube channel and this was the thing is, it was a total shit posting channel. I had eight subscribers who were my mates. Right? This is back. The channel sat with eight subscribers for like months and months and months, right? And I never got anybody and ended up. I made the video and means to used to do this thing like on date night where we would like to hook the laptop up to the telly and watch YouTube videos. And I put it on my channel just to send it around to my pals and go look what I made, right? But my plan was we would be sitting on the couch with a cup of tea to watch YouTube videos and then I would go, I've got a brilliant one. I'm going to just stick it on and get a reaction. But like, we never, see because we were so busy, we never got one of the nights and I went, she's never going to find it and nobody's going to find it. I'll just leave it there. And then I was going to a gaming convention in Iceland, right? And I think this probably happened as soon as I got on the plane to go, someone to this day still don't know who posted the video on Reddit and it made it to the front page of Reddit and Reddit's literally called the front page of the internet. Right? So it made it to the front page and it was blown up and never in the entire time I'm on a plane, no signal. So I'm going to a foreign country, still no signal and never because I didn't connect to Wi-Fi or anything like that. And I went out and get steaming with my pals not realising back home my fucking life's been ruined. I'm sitting in a bar in Reykjavik. Enjoying life? No, no, no, isn't it? You've got a fucking hat, then that's it. Hate more about to get you. I ended up like the next day fucking woke up drunken shipper and I was like, oh shite connected to the Wi-Fi. As soon as I connected to the Wi-Fi, boom, boom, boom, phone, mental and everything, five minutes later, I'm sitting going, what the fuck's this? Five minutes later, two phones me going, why is it press at the door? And I'm going, oh fuck man. I ended up like, and this was the mistake I made. They came at the door again, oh, we're on your side. We just want to hear your side of the story. We know you're a nice guy and everything. So I'm through Skype on the phone, like talking to them, going like that. Ah, okay, come on then. First mistake, press are absolute serpents, right? And it was just a complete fucking hatchet job and all that. I had loads of people in the media call me. Just straight up call me a Nazi and all that type of stuff and just the outrage crap. I ended up while I was in the next night when I was in a bar drinking again. I got an email for the call centre I worked in saying I was sacked. And that was the thing is that this year out of all the things that happened to me, that was the thing that I gave the least fuck about. It's a minimum wage call centre. Man, they did me a favour. So I just went like that to everyone. I just got sacked. I get steaming like that. Then I came home and just kept kicking off and I think it was about two or three days later after I came home. My mates in Iceland were all barming me up about it going, see when you land in the airport, they're going to be waiting for you at the gate. They're going to knock up by the way like that. Man, because I was actually feared. But three days later I got fucking knocked at the door. Did you realise it would go as big? When have yous did that happen the first week? I try to remember. I think it got to about 500,000 the first week. It's sitting at nearly four million now. It's mental, isn't it? But sometimes these bad things can change a life for the best because now you're sitting at half a million on YouTube, your career's flying and people will judge it. There's so much jealousy towards you. There's so much jealousy in hatred to show you the day you're not a fucking Nazi. You're not coming in here wearing a Hugo Boss Nazi uniform, not a mean. Because you're a good guy and you're like, what are you doing? It's a fucking joke. It was a joke and it just blew up. But then it became the freedom of speech kind of thing. Where you're not allowed to tell jokes, but you had guys like Ricky Gervais backing you. They were at your side saying it's bad the way you're getting treated. How long did you spend in the jail? I was only in the jail overnight. For court the next day. And that man was just fucking laughing. I was sitting in that cell going, really? Fucking really, I'm in a cell for that. The thing that was quite funny was like, see when I'm in the house, like the cops came in and all that stuff and I was sitting there in my pyjamas and I'm like, I kind of do what I get lifting my pyjamas. Can I get changed? So I went in and get changed. And while I'm getting changed, I've got one officer watching me and then I've got the other. There was a dick joke in there. But it ended up, the other officer is going around my house like taking pictures in the house. And then when I got outside, the press were waiting for me outside. Now throughout the week, like when the press came, like it was a scheme, it's a quite tight that area. So basically the youth knew what was going on and basically they were chasing the press out until we get to fuck. And no press for days and days and days. And then the press were there at the exact date and time of my arrest and we found out that the police illegally tipped the press off so that they could get pictures for a perp walk because whenever the police actually give any information to the press, it's supposed to be recorded and needs to be recorded as an official conversation and an official police document and no such documents exist. So somebody in the police tipped off the press. And that was, how was a formal complaining against that or is there anything happening, the pipeline we're at? No. They can do what they want. Because they're just trying to fuck you up even more. If I go after them, they'll just try and get me even more. Because it's funny, because I always say that people who are reading the press believe it and half of these fucking guns who are derried the press, they're just fucking adates, man. This is going to be in the paper and what we are doing is getting a laugh and just basically, but they'll take words out it and they'll blot out it. I'll be a thug, you'll be fucking nuts, you'll be flying to Germany the more or I'll be falling down. It's a bit extreme. These people don't know what Nazi or Fascist means. See the reason that they use it is it's almost a Pavlovian response at this point as soon as they hear any right-wing opinion, like no matter how milk-toaster it is, they just go, Nazi. And the reason that they do that is they're branded as a Nazi or a racist. That just basically means your opinion doesn't matter, you can shut up. Anything that comes out of your mouth is garbage and it's a case, it's an easy cop-out to just call that person a Nazi. And I call them out in it all the time where they go, Nazi, racist, bigot, and I'm like that, prove what I said wrong and they never can. And that's when I go, oh wow, so is a Nazi correct? You're not looking very good right now if you're calling people Nazis and they're always beating you in arguments, that people might start to think of shooting themselves in the footway and they're actually making the problem a heli a lot worse because they don't argue like they can't argue so they just go, Nazi. Why are they still going on about it? Why are they still targeting you? Because they're angry, they're angry and they hate me. Now to see the whole reason is the main things that get brought up is you piled about with Tommy Robinson, you did events with Tommy Robinson and you're in UKIP and it's like, that's all I need to know and I'm like, well why? And they never can. Or what they'll do is they'll give their own made up definition of what far right is and in our world the definitions and words to the left wing don't matter anymore. The fact that we were talking about on that show I like the definition doesn't matter anymore. We have an established word like racist and Nazi which have strong connotations behind the word we have a set definition but what these people have done is ignored the official definition and just use the word willy nilly completely correctly to the point where those words to me are and I don't know who's now man. But because the way they have treated you is a bit extreme that is very extreme and they're still out to get you they're still tabloids on the front pages nearly all the time still as we are Nazi and it's Society links are punching back. Do you think they're making money off you then? Do you think you're a cash cow for them? Because you're selling papers and you're creating headlines where people are going to tune into it because everybody loves this but when you go to jail and it went that far were you ever worried for your mental health because it was heavy? There was times when stuff was rough like this was back like when the video first dropped the channel had like a few gained a few thousand I think I ended up being at like 3,000 subscribers because you get channels like that when they have like one massive video but there are other stuff rotten so basically they'll have a video with 10 million views but they've only got a few thousand subs so I'm going to need to try and find a job so I went back into security tried to apply for other places and some places like I would go in and after like a week I would get recognised and basically the manager would pull me in and go you need to go meet and I'm like no done it So you're losing your jobs as well for that? I lost a bunch of jobs one of them I got recognised in the first day one of the places still owes me money for all the work that I've done was other places where I'd ended up went cool maybe I'll just be honest and like you know just tell them in the interview and all that never got a call back never got a call back for M-day so it was a casey they totally took away my ability to feed myself pretty much I was like I've got to pay my bills I've got to keep a roof there my heath I've got to keep a roof over my missing seeds and everything as well so basically they took away my ability completely to do that and the only thing that I did was still trying to do it to me like what happened with me and you with the BBC they found out that I was on the show and they can the entire thing and this was the same media that were making fun of me because I couldn't find a job they were saying what was it or Nazi pug-job moans that he's unable to find a job yeah well I managed to get one and then you took it off me the reason I can't get a job is because it ursles at you that's why it's a casey it ursles at a job it's other people around this situation there was different kinds of people on that panel and if I'm honest I'm sad that people can't get to see that because it was fucking brilliant it was four people who had different opinions and it was really good and it showed a good side to yourself the papers can't allow that it can't allow people to see what I'm actually like a lot of people that are out there the vast majority of the population is through the paper that's it so they basically think oh right winger that's a racist fascist fascist is my favourite one because my overall goal literally is a codified British constitution essentially like the American Bill of Rights and I want the government to have less power and for the people to have more rights that's my number one goal how's that fascist that's literally the opposite of fascism that I'm advocating for and I still get people that call me a fascist they've not watched my videos they've not seen any of my online content they're getting a 100% of their opinion about me from the papers and it's the papers that have done that but that's when you get people to go whenever you make jokes about people and about races and minorities and all that type of stuff that can actually cause people to go after them and I go yeah you're doing that people always think that just because you for example whenever I make jokes about the Holocaust everyone goes oh so you think the Holocaust is funny that it happened I don't sit there watching the old black and white footage of the camps slap my ego on a fucking classic man I'm not sitting at home doing that if someone goes as the Holocaust horrible I would say yes it's one of the worst things that has ever happened but see in your ability to actually make jokes about it that basically sort of diffuses how bad it was it makes it less scary to me like comedy is a coping mechanism like the Holocaust was fucking horrible but the ability to actually joke and laugh about things like that I don't know I just think it makes it easier for everybody to deal with do you think you need to watch your material now because everybody is just going to jump on it I don't care I'm at the point where I don't care just in case you say like what more can they do to me like I've had people fucking surrounding me in the street and everyone went to kick my head in that's happened twice one of them was in George Square just her being me trying to you know oh you're right wing you're a fascist you're an actually and I'm going how am I how am I no they kept saying it and I'm like he's going to come up with a point and there was a wee fat barrel of a bulldog guy right just this wee fat cunt and he's sitting there with his arms folded like trying to threaten me and the best thing about it was he pure went if you know get your wee dugway and I went no I've no brought my dugway and he pure went aye cos it'd be getting kicked ha ha ha but ended up his pals walked away he realised he was on his own and he fucking waddled off these are the ones who are bullying as well not just mentally but physically as well see some of the what everyone accuses us you know the trolls of being like we're abusers we're harassers we say horrible mean things like I get all of that from the from like crazy left wingers not the entire left just the crazy loonies and all that man like I've even actually had people saying that oh I should be putting a guillotine I even had one guy say that he was going to get me ripped apart by his pet dogs and all that man I get I've got a pile of osmonds in the house like honestly see when you did the thing with a dugway you ever scared that your dugway took half you was anybody ever oh your dug at the jail cos your dug was a joke if anybody's going to get a jail you should have been a fucking dug put the jibber worry that they potentially want to take your wee dug I'd have went fucking nuclear if they tried to take him I swear to God man I would have barricaded the fucking door of them How did Ricky Gervais get involved? He did a tweet basically condemning my sentence and he moved on that was it but he's a good man to have in your corner because he talks a lot of sense he needs himself he gets attacked a hell of a lot for his jokes but the reason he can just go ahead and date is cos he's got fuck you money he's like clubs that'd be stupid not to book Ricky Gervais cos he's seen as one of the biggest comedians in the world in the world so do you think a lot of people when they do stuff then they fear kicks in and then you take two steps back but you've clearly not let that affect you you've clearly kicked on for it and utilised that and now you've got a career for it people self-censor that's the problem people go we've got an age right now where it's a case that people completely have their lives ruined over a myspace post that happened ten years ago and everybody's passed trying to find the one off the cuff comment or one single hang I mean you're getting hundreds right now but it's like apparently one of the things that they got from Bernie Sanders in America was 25 years ago he used the term niggardly now it doesn't mean what it sounds it means it basically means stingy and basically he's getting ripped apart for that and he said that 25 years ago and you're getting happens all the time now it's funny cos why are the questions we had at the BBC was should people get sacked if they've gotten asked well people have got a past I've got a past I do not shy away for fucking nothing but the way the papers make it out is if I'm this mad fucking fucking this and that and so far for the shite it's a lot of shite but that was one of the questions and we'll answer the fucking well and then for you not we end up all getting sacked for the joke but this is the thing that happens alongside it it's basically people can get shit can for anything now you've got a tweet for fucking six years ago that's it you're out the door but you might get some clubs that will go or some TV shows that are like cool we're not having you on then and it's like that's fine that's your decision if you want to do that so what I'm going to do is I'm going to start my own club I'm going to start my own TV show I've found another club that wants to give me a platform and everything and basically it's a case of cool I'm away for everybody I'm here doing my own thing and the crazy people for the left will go no you're not even allowed that so basically it's a case it's called breaking your rice bowl basically not giving you the ability to actually feed yourself or earn money in any way there's even banks in America that count because they hold the wrong politics that's sat and chase bank is one of the number one ones and you even get people as well who for being members of the proud boys who get falsely branded a right wing terrorist organisation even though proud boys sort of form their violent element as a counter to Antifa who literally are a terrorist organisation because they use violence and intimidation to shout down other people's politics like I've been threatened by Antifa I've been surrounded by Antifa I've had them all screaming in my face wearing masks on and all that type of stuff weapons hitting up their sleeves all that type of stuff they get left alone the cops do nothing about Antifa so who are Antifa Antifa are anarcho communists and they're about their authoritarians they want absolute utter government control a little one world kind of globalist trying to avoid to use that word because you get told you're anti Semitic if you use the word globalist do you know what I mean so what is your beliefs then what is your beliefs I would depend on the particular subject one of the things that people try and call me all the time is alt right because people it's again one of those words that everybody just uses for anyone I disagree with when it's got a set definition alt right is ethno nationalism which basically means no one of any colour except white in Britain anyone even if they're mixed race if they're black if they're Asian like doesn't matter how many generations you've been here everybody's out that's ethno nationalism I've never advocated for that I would never actually want to advocate for that because it would destroy the economy number one but as a case of no if people are here legally I'm fine with them being here legally if they went through the proper channels that is fine I do want a stricter control and immigration but it's for different reasons like everyone goes like you just don't want your neighbour Muslim and I'm like well my neighbour is Muslim because you're a racist my main reason is because of this thing called brain drain and what we're basically doing is all of the skilled labour doctors engineers and all that type of stuff we are stealing them from third world countries because you can get a qualified doctor in a third world country who makes 15,000 pounds a year and they're living in you know rotten conditions the infrastructure of the country's crap they can come to Britain where things are much much better and they'll get paid 80,000 a year I can't blame them for coming here man like it's a sad state of affairs but I can't blame them but the problem is that third world country is now down a doctor that third world country is now down engineers and factory workers and everybody that could make the country better and bring it out of poverty exactly basically it needs an industrialisation boom to give everybody jobs give everybody money and that basically the third world is now going to be the third world for a lot longer now because we've brain drained these places into oblivion so they're not going to be able to develop and get better and it's also happened to such an extent that our own thing, especially the NHS our own institutions are struggling to keep up with it the housing market can't keep up with it the NHS can't keep up with it and it's a case of right people are suffering because of this I don't care if the people are white, black, brown I don't care people are suffering because of this so we should control immigration a bit more racist so we'll then argue against what I just fucking said that's my problem that's what you're up against basically if you're against any of these things even in the slightest measure you just get called racist that's mental in it and no matter what you say that you're going to call all this stuff but you're clearly very intelligent you clearly know your stuff as well so the Tommy Robinson kind of thing when I performed their opinions based on what they read in the media I was the same as everybody else see whenever Tommy first messaged me I was like what is this fucking racist Nazi piece of shit fucking doing messaging me and all that and then it got to the point where I was in a total bind and nobody coming out to support me like nobody major I had people in the public and stuff like that but I had nobody way any kind of platform that was actually supporting me so basically I was in a panic I was like I'm going to get fucked by the system here so I went with him and see the more I started working with Tommy and going around with him and actually talking to him and like I learned more about his politics and when me and him had to sit down I was like I'm going to challenge you on this I'm going to challenge you on that and he kept going I never said that I never said that either that's not the opinion that I have and I went and done my actual done research into him done research into talks that he's gave and he doesn't think that so I was like I've been fucking lying to and all that and then that's when I sort of started to get the red pill as some people call it people have different interpretations what that means but that's when I sort of started to realise how bad the media actually was and how bad that people on the right wing are getting portrayed like for example the media have turned populism into a dirty word it's a horrible word populism means you're a racist no it doesn't it doesn't mean the common people who have been ignored by the government and feel that they don't have a voice and they aren't getting support that's populism and the press have somehow managed to turn that into a dirty word and it's caring about people's problems a bad thing now but they've tried to make it into that so you've kind of your stories kind of the same as Tommy's in and the media because they've shut him down they've shut Tommy down as they did it to Tommy Robinson they did it to Gavin McInnes and this is the thing that's the problem like see if you Nick Griffin's still on everything by the way it's funny that bit but Richard Spencer he's still there as well do you think they might shut you down? aye it's coming one day see the reason that they go after us so much as more people listen to us because we are moderates because see how actual Nazis that are like you know I hate all races wipe them out nobody's going to listen to them people are going to look at that and go fucking lunatic and go away but then they see people like me or Tommy or Sargon and all that we appeal to different types of people they might actually look at us and go their views are actually quite reasonable and then they start listening to us and taking in what they say that's why they go after us the most because you guys are actually the gateway to the right wing but they managed to twist that into you're the gateway to the far right we actively preach against even though the papers and stuff they're still enhancing your career aye they are they're still enhancing your career they're not really damaging it they could have but they've know they've enhanced that they've clearly enhanced that you know you've got a bigger following when you put a post on Twitter you've fucking thousands you've got millions followers now everyone's all social media outlets and people they listen to you know it's hard to when you're judged it's hard when you see that stuff all the time how does that affect you? it's just I'm used to it now completely my mum gets so upset by it and everything like so that's the thing it would upset me the most I see it but even at the point she was throughout the entire trial see because of the way things are where the police and everyone are clamping down right hard on you know anything against diversity my mum was certain that I was going to get the jail fiance Sue and she was like basically anytime it got brought up you would see them eyes welling up in the bottom lip going they would just cry every time so I ended up just going let's just not talk about it right we'll cross the bridge when we come to it and so whenever my mum goes online and sees people call me a Nazi a fascist and all this type of stuff like it's made my mum cry a few times and everyone because she's like I raised him I know he's not he's none of the things and all that type of stuff and I'm usually I'm usually a bit on the internet and fucking grow up here because you'll be used to it and you're just trying to be strong yeah but everything does affect you mentally and it's difficult how's Alex Jones I love him I think he's brilliant because he's right out there he's fucking excellent he's been on Joe Rogan a couple of times and he's views are wild but again you could listen to him he's valid points how is he he's brilliant he's good obviously he's a bit mental like a lot of the things that we know Alex Jones just says just to be extreme and out there and that type of stuff and we want people to sort of see him as that but if people go in and listen to him and they hear some truth and some of the things that he's saying then go out and do your own research in here and come to your own conclusion do you think you can go down the rabbit because you spoke about that earlier I've got David Ike coming on next week do you think you can go down the rabbit hole fucking too much searching and digging for conspiracies and fucking because I used to smoke a lot of green and I used to go down it and I was like oh shit there's reptiles everywhere there's aliens there's the world's control we're flat air, we're run air we don't know that's why in life it doesn't matter everybody's got different perceptions everybody you've got different views I've got different views Alex Jones got different views and all was said who says we're right or who says we're wrong that's the thing that the audience does everybody in the audience gets to make up their own mind this is the thing that I don't get I think this is just sort of the crazy left I'm trying to avoid using the term the left because it brands oil them with the same brush they're not all like that so I'm just going to say the crazy left some people call them the alt left as well we mostly call them communists but what ended up happening was I think they have it in their head that any information that's you know if someone looks dead important and is making media any information that person says just immediately gets believed by everybody that's watching it and it's like maybe that's what you use a lot to do but whenever we say stuff like people usually question it and go out and inform their own research I told everybody to do that even with me just because I've got a big channel saying stuff like into a camera and like the video might have a lot a lot of likes that doesn't mean I'm right like go out and do your own research and that's what I would advise everybody to do so that's why everyone goes oh Alex Jones spreads conspiracy theories well then why aren't people going out and doing their own research why they just believe in everything that comes out of his mouth right away and going that's all I need like go out and do your own research then like how about instead of restricting freedom of speech to protect stupid people how about we elevate stupid people in a no being stupid right just instead of bringing in authoritarian shite if you've got a closure you've not got a closure yet in your coat have you your coat date because you were back just a few weeks ago oh no I'll tell you what the sneaky bastard's done man I was raging about this basically I got £800 then obviously everybody knows I went live fuck it's fine you're all getting it first of all you said you did pay £800 but you gave that a charity I gave that a classical children's hospital live and ended up I just went cool I'm no paying it after October of twenty six I went to Comicon instead and I was like cool this is go time it'll be any day now right and then like ends up two weeks pass I'm still waiting for the knock at the door and I'm like what the fuck are they so I phoned the police on myself and just said hello it's me where he's coming and then no joke I confirmed my address confirmed my name and all that stuff and no word to ally they went we're no coming to get you until your name comes up on the computer and I'm like you fucking joke I'm here telling you where I am come and get me get it over and done with they wouldn't do it so I ended up months pass months pass and then eventually I get the letter saying you've got fourteen days to pay the fine if it's no done blah blah blah and I was like alright cool this is them coming for it now and I was like I'm still no paying it and he's the money out of my account and I knew that they need to give you a notification before they do that so I was like cool well when that day comes I'll just empty the account didn't he give me any notice cos I think they knew I would do that but procedurally the police are meant to cos as soon as it happened I just woke up one morning text my phone so he's going why did none of the bills come out the account and I checked it and just seen it at an arrestment order I was like you dirty dirty fuckers right and I phoned my lawyer and he was like they're supposed to tell me before they do that they're meant to notify you before they do that so I think what the cops did is they knew if I knew they were coming to take that money I would just go cool and empty the account so I think then they would have no choice to arrest me ever and would kick off again all that crap riots in the streets hopefully not so I think what they did is they went just take the money anyway we were getting many notice on this one we'll probably get a verbal warning or something like that and basically just to avoid all the crap that will happen if we do tell them so that's it finished done well apparently the funds will stay in the account and then they says oh you can sign an order to release the funds and I'm like get fucked I'm not going to you know glad don't know it's kind of no I'm raging I'm raging that they did that the thing was I do think it's quite funny because everybody was making the joke that I had her stared down with the government and the government blinked because the thing is like I'm like jail me then and instead they sneakily seized the money and that's what I'm just like what's the worst thing it could happen to you if you never paid 800 quid? 21 days is that what you'd have done? that's what they'd blast what it's estimated I would get in the jail like I could do 21 days and when did you decide that fuck this I'm not going to feed him a speech kind of before the sentence even get handed down I actually got my lawyer to read a preprepared sentence statement to the judge basically say that I will reject any punishment that you give me if you give me a fine I will not pay it if you give me community service I will not do it I'm not going to bend the knee and sacrifice my principles to take the punishment when I shouldn't be getting any kind of punishment at all because I used my right to freedom of speech all I did was offend people that was literally all that came out of the joke that I made what was the charge? it was section 127 of the 2003 communications act it was posting a grossly offensive message on social media it's actually based on I think it was the 1950 something royal mail act to stop people from sending rude telegrams to feel like a deer cunt stop but like it ended up that was what the charge was the thing that was quite sketchy is during the trial the prosecutor tried to up it to a more serious charge it was like aggravated racial verbal abuse which means the maximum sentence would instead of being one year like it was would have been five years and I'm sitting there like the whole time like I'm just looking at the prosecutor going you are a scummy man like honestly so you could have potentially get five years because my dog lifted its paw because people get offended has there been any other case like it in the UK? the first comedian in Scotland to get the joke that's a bonus but it's changed your life it's changed your life but again you've got to go through some torment and misery you're quite a funny guy you're quite open minded you like to have a laugh but it still affects you because then you start thinking is my missy in jeopardy? is my dog in jeopardy? and then when it starts affecting everybody else then it becomes a fucking problem because if they can't break you they climb the web and try and get everybody around about them people date up with my missy all the time like she's on Twitter as well I don't mind but the thing is the thing that I love about her is see how me and her one thing that everybody remarks on isn't where I'm the guy that will run into a room and act the prank and say the type of jokes that I say and say really mean things she's this wee adorable lovely thing that like doesn't it like when they say boot a housefly like honestly so everyone always but the thing is see whenever I'm with her she keeps me into trouble because I'll make a joke and all that and then she's sitting next to me and hits me because there's people here and I get why there was an outcry I understand that was there any other comedians was there comedians you think he just fucking says that joke why is there any outcry towards him why is there any people to get him and fucking burn him I think they get away with it because if they're big enough then they can get away with it and everything like there was one guy I managed to catch him out and then basically he was saying or your jokes have races he owed to spread your racist views and I was like well there was a joke that I made and I said if only we could give more people mosquito nets in Africa we could stop millions of mosquitoes from needlessly dying of AIDS and he turned around and went I that is racist that's disgraceful you're mocking the deaths of African children I went cool it wasn't me that made that joke it was Jimmy Carr and the guy was like and I went Aussie so your opinion suddenly changed like that man basically they're holding people to different standards if you're left wing make whatever hell of jokes you want if you're right wing you're not allowed to make jokes in fact you're not a comedian if you're right wing so you were the first person ever to get charged for doing that doing a joke who was against you who was saying you should get the jail who was Stephen Fry Stephen Fry spoke out against it one of the top people that proper went after me was Graham Lennon and he's the creator he's the writer for Father Ted Black Books the IT crowd and now that I'm sort of involved in the comedy world a bit more I was totally blown away by this guy who's one of the great writers he's just some classic British shows was coming out against me even when I was raising funds to do my appeal he wrote to the appeal place to the go fund me to get my funding shut down and I've only basically tried to sabotage my whole appeal and I was just sort of sitting there like why the fuck is this massive comedy giant like coming after me and I'm like what the hell he was actually quite malicious and the stuff that he'd done and then the more I got involved in the comedy world everyone was like yeah we used to work together he's a prick now he's just as washed up old has been that sort of trying to tell the old internet I hate racists, I'm a right guys pat in the back that's what he does now so basically it seems that a lot of people have turned away from him just because he's a prick so he was one of the biggest ones I had the Omid Julili who's that? the guy for the mummy the wee guy with the fez on that was because you had saw him out of support as well you had a lot of great support you did the go fund me because obviously your court cases and stuff like that people were supporting you and supporting because they should be afraid of my speech how did that make you feel? did that give you the kind of kick up they ask to say you know what, I'm no quiet and I'm no going to fucking bend over I'm going to keep fighting for what I believe in it gave me a hell of a lot more hope because it's the case here I think that see because there was so many eyes on my case is why I only got an £800 fine I reckon that see if I hadn't started making videos because I was unemployed I had a lot of free time and then for their popularity grew and that's how I ended up where I am now maybe getting sacked for all my jobs was a good time but like I thought what if this happens to someone and there aren't enough eyes on it the courts could just make an example out of that person like one of the main ones did you hear about the Chelsea Russell case? she posted rap lyrics on her Instagram in memory of a young boy who got killed you know he got not done in the street she posted rap lyrics on her Instagram that contained the n words and she got arrested and charged for that and she got found guilty she appealed and got overturned and it was only because so many people kicked off but basically it's a case of the problem with the law itself is it says grossly offensive which means we have a law that's down to absolute subjectivity no two people can agree entirely on every subject about what's offensive or grossly offensive or what's fine everybody's different so basically it's a case of are you just down to completely to whatever police officer reviews the case is it just down to the judges is it the judges own opinion because I don't want to get found guilty on a matter of fact not someone's opinion because complete subjectivity you know what I might find grossly offensive so they're changing a lot so I listen to a lot of rap music myself to a packed biggie so if I was to put that on my Instagram then there's a possibility because there's words on that if someone sees something you've posted and they find it offensive or the police for that that's fucking crazy that's crazy is that a new law that's changed has that always been there? been there since 2003 it's almost like it was planted there for it's probably starting to come into use now because that's one thing that we've noticed is that you get shady shady laws that get put in like we've noticed a lot of stuff where they get put in and then nothing happens with it and they leave it to sit there for ages and ages because the longer a law is in when the time's right we'll start using this law now so they basically pass me laws like that to invest for the future we live in a very fragile generation now everybody's weak I know this is the generation as well that were raised on South Park and Family Guy so what the fuck happened? if you look at it I used to watch a lot of Eddie Murphy and Chris Tucker and they were constantly slagging whites to slag themselves on that but it's a comedian it's a craft a comedian I think are fucking brilliant but again Frankie Boyle his stuff was nuts his stuff was nuts I've never really seen much of him in the last few years but when he's prime and he's prime he was he was fucking classy the stuff that he said the way he used to slaughter people in the crowd was he kind of still cringe thinking about it he's joddling joke but man right Harvey that was like I didn't laugh like I blew a fuse when he said that I just sort of leaned back in my chair going like Jesus and you can understand why because again when it's a touchy subject whether it's racism or disability but when you target you go oh shit man you shouldn't have said that you can understand because I think Jordan's actually fighting to get a law that people are slagging her son and writing stuff about her son that she's wanting to get them charged but then made a joke about Harvey and then she's what is that that kind of law? it's authoritarianism it's restricting what people are basically you want to make it a crime to be a bit of an asshole so there's never really any it's a fuck it it's touchy even your video it's touchy it's going on but this is the thing I see the way that the internet has been constructed you've got the block button you have the block button you even have the word filter too that filters out certain words social media platforms give you all of the tools to create your experience in the way that you see fit for example I don't know if you've seen this stuff that went on about lots and lots of left-wing journalists get laid off it turns out the line is not profitable enough anymore but a lot of them get laid off and I became a running joke because what happened was there was a bunch of miners laid off the mines shut down and everybody get laid off and these journalists just to show how detached they are for the working class or why don't these miners just learn to code why don't they learn a programming language and it's like this is a 55-year-old guy that's been in the mines his entire life he's just lost his pension and I realise that you're good at swinging a pick and working the machines and all that but go out and learn an advanced programming language and that's how detached they were so see when they all get laid off everyone started going why don't you learn to code and all that to these journalists and this is the thing that even though it's just learn to code people were getting banned through Twitter for saying that and journalists were going oh I've had it tweeted at me for 50 times today and I ended up posting stuff out going like here's what you do go on the options word filter type in learn to code enter there you are all of it stops it's done you will never experience it again because you've literally filtered out the words no these people should be banned they should be this, they should be that and it's a case of okay so instead of you taking measures to stop this from happening to you I don't want the world to change and believe your views this is the thing is people don't change to fit into the world people want the world to change to suit them for example when people get easily offended no you can't do that shut this comedy event down don't put that on TV how about you fuck off you narcissistic fucker the world's not about you I get so angry at these people because I've never seen such a massive sense of self entitlement honestly I really don't like the daily show we Trevor Noah all he does is rag rag on trump the trump jokes I've heard them, they've done now 2016 constant trump jokes it's done so I don't watch it I think it's crass some of the stuff he says annoys me I'm not calling for it to get shut down I just don't watch it that's what I do everyone goes like he's in a comedy show telling horrible jokes I'm like are you there that's the thing see how the people they go he's not a comedian he's not funny, he's not this, he's not that I hate him, he's a racist and it's like yeah that's like me owning a butcher's and you're a vegan and you're complaining about it you're not going to buy ends so why the fuck they're care what are you going to do you weren't going to buy a ticket anyway this is an environment where in people just love to morning complain people are so unhappy love to just cause misery the world owes them something and I don't give a fucking I've spoken about any BBC I don't give a fuck about politics I'm a guy who posts I just want to make a career for myself and put food in a table I don't shy away from what I fucking do in life and I agree with people for the left I agree with majority of people say but I always have an open mind because everybody's beliefs are different I don't fully I could be brainwashed to go one way or the other but I don't because there's too many snakes and wrongings and everybody want to do things for themselves and cut corners and I get it this is an environment we're in so for me it's fuck everybody else man David's right for you as long as it's fucking as long as it's suit because we're living a very soft generation people are fucking weak people cannae handle we need a war there you go he's here to hear first hard never want to fuck up what's the plans for you now what's the steps then for your career wise how do you see yourself going forward because you've clearly got the massive following you've clearly got people intrigued with you your names out there you're well known now so I know you do stand up comedy what's the plans for you the future well we've got shows but they're gorilla shows because this is what we need to do whenever we book a venue we try to we try and be very honest with the owners and go this is who we are this is some of the stuff that might get said to you we just want you to know the money it's true and we've had so many venues who've went oh don't worry we can handle the shit we're going to get and they're all fucking liars they fucking pussie out as soon as they get any of it we've got a good few stories about that by the way so what we do is we basically go we're doing a show in this area in London basically if you buy a ticket give us your email address the night before the event we send an email out to you and this is basically to stop people directly threatening the venue to the point where they get shut down and all that we kind of basically leave it too late for the venue to cancel you're cutting it you're working your livelihood as well where's your next show have you got any coming up London in about two and a half weeks not saying where though very very private place it gets announced the night before but we had the thing was so can you sell your tickets in that then we just sell them on the thing we haven't marked that so you send a location on night basically we say the only way that you can buy a ticket is to give your email address so that basically we have a way of sending you an email like this is where the event is being held and why do you think because you would get a lot of people a lot of left wingers and fucking we've had people call bomb threats in the venues that we're going to hold us we even had the London Irish centre people for the Irish government shut it down the fact that we were in there and all that even though the funny thing is we had IRA supporting bands in there but apparently I'm more controversial but the thing was one of the biggest ones this is the thing that got the ball rolling on something pretty major is that we had a huge event planned in the Scabras Bar massive hall like huge and then I'm sold out and we did say to them you're going to get this, you're going to get that and they went don't worry it will be fine stand up to racism who are the brown shots I'm just going to say that they're basically modern day brown shots they go around threatening people and beating them up and everything basically shutting venues down I'm not saying it's them but I believe people connected to them are the ones who made the bomb threats and people were travelling through all over the world to come to this event we had America, Canada, we had Israel and all that as well just everyone coming through everywhere and it was about a week before the event they put a tweet out and they put a post out on their Facebook and it's like they didn't even tell the organisers so basically even though it had been cancelled the organisers are still doing stuff to get ready for the show and they ended up we decided fuck them then we were going to turn up at Scabras and we were just going to have a big day out anyway and the thing that I thought was bad was they were writing articles about it and they were like far right speakers shut down an event that was supposed to be attended by Nazis and this is the thing that was funny because we had people coming through as rules we had people coming through as rules we've got these guys with Yamakison coming off the plane realising the event that they paid thousands of pounds for and they had been cancelled and the newspapers were calling them Nazis and I was like welcome here Britain boys like I am that they were fucking furious man like that and it was just like we went out we all just get a drink and all that as well but I was like these guys were getting called Nazis and the event that they paid thousands of pounds for got shut down but it was in the name of diversity is anybody ever a good story about you? a few is anybody ever stuck up for you? have you ever had a platform where they've gave you a show to tell your story? I've been on talk radio I was on the BBC with you and you see what happened fuckers it wasn't even the BBC the last of the papers the Daily Mail the boy Miles nice guy, great guy I feel so bad for Miles especially when they too were arguing but it is where it is and it's a we're strong enough characters it's not going to fucking phase us we're doing well for ourselves anyway that was just mere opportunities to mere doors than to show our character we're actually good guys I'm sorry man that's alright so how do we how do we how can people look at your social media how can people see your stuff and what's all your social media platforms? my main one is my YouTube which is just count Dancular if you want to see the Nazi dog then get a view and it's fucking funny video it's funny I'll get a backlash for saying that but I'm just going to be honest I think it was funny because I've seen it and said bad jokes against somebody and it's just a bit of fucking comedy relax people and if you don't like it don't fucking watch it don't try and concentrate on somebody else's life and bring name to them because you'll leave some misery do you know what I mean? Fuck them I say fuck them mate I say get another video up my night mate I'll date with you I've actually trained a new man to do the black's the worst way I'm not joking I have I've seen it in a couple of days ago so how can people get tickets then? basically this is the thing is the link gets shared about secretly at first and most of the time whenever it's just getting shared around secretly like we sell out and even so that's why it's does it work for you though? it's just the only thing that we worry about is protestors turning up and assaulting fans which has happened protestors have came up and started beating people up I don't understand why they can call your Nazi and why they can say you're this and you're that you know they're the good guys they're portraying themselves to bad good guys so that's just double standards it is they just see when you hold a mirror up to them and show them what they actually are they can't stand it they hate it like this is the thing is they call me a fascist all the time and I'm like you do realise that we're trying to have an event you're not coming to the event you're not paid to come but you're here threatening the venue and beating up fans like you're the fascist so what would you call I so that's sort of people coming to see them outside an event and attacking them and this is the thing is see if we ever did that to them it would be in the newspapers for weeks but whenever they date to us they get portrayed as the good guys we've even had people as well like we even had one girl who gets stomped on another girl as well get her hair ripped out by the root and everything as well this is just the type of stuff that they do they don't care about beating up girls either don't care about beating up women so this is came because the pug video this is what it's all about basically people go like the newspapers called you a Nazi I've heard my other far left friends call you a Nazi and that's all I need to know they don't do research these people can't be objective and this is the thing that's bad it's like see when they look at their politics like I used to be a communist I used to be a communist but then obviously I looked at things called facts like I changed my mind but these people refused to do that they think that admitting that their ideology is wrong would be an insult to their pride like oh I don't want to look wrong that will make me look bad so instead I'm going to use violence and intimidation to force my bad idea in and it's just like you're a weapon honestly that's bad like little violence and intimidation I'm going to use violence and intimidation to force my bad idea in and it's just like you're a weapon honestly that's bad like little violence and intimidation is the only way that bad ideas can win and it's all they've got because they don't meet us in debates they won't debate us like in fact I'm supposed to be doing a debate at Edinburgh University and as usual get deplatformed to controversial and I was like it's because you know you'd lose shite bags happens all the time like see whenever it's like cool we'll book the hall we've booked a place here's a chair all you need to do I'm not platforming your Nazi views and it's like that you see they call your bluff as if to say no I'm not going to do that so you agree with it and say right where's your proof where is it you call me this and then you'll book it there at and then they pull the plug and you shite it they can't attribute any of it to me at all so to clarify things up are you a racist? I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm just trying to exchange a good light and we've fucked it because that's going to get cut up the papers are going to have that I'm going to ask you that and it's going to be I you've just made world news again I'm going to be completely fair to everybody a lot of people for the far left go see what the things you say and your attitude and your jokes you bring it on yourself and I do but as for the dictionary definition of racism no I'm not a racist and you're a Nazi? I'm mostly libertarian I would say which isn't even close to Nazis so we've clarified that up you're a comedian, you're a good guy you're fucking crazy a secretive comedian where only special people can go to your event Nazis so we're going to get beer whole pissed fuck it you know what I mean I'm scared to get mophies now mate they're all there for us listen for coming on today and telling your story and putting a few things straight you're not a fucking bad guy you're a good guy who's got a big heart I know you but I shouldn't have made me say that cos now they're all going to come for me see if you have me on you're going to get so much shit but isn't it you want to put more in you want to say before you go no really just you can find me on YouTube you can find me on Twitter annoying people you've mostly found me on Twitter annoying people but I do I've got a series called absolute mad lads on YouTube where I just talk about which I'm having a lot of fun doing great man check it out it's full of the guy who's fucking support him he's one of our own it's been an absolute pleasure brother and thanks for coming on today I really appreciate it thank you please make sure you like and share this podcast and leave a comment below and let me know what you think of this week's episode for all your fire safety requirements fire alarms, fire extinguishers fire risk assessment fire doors and also CCTV fire suppression as their main priority for enquiries you can contact them on 01698 200 562 or email on info at fire suppressionscotland.org at select blinds if you want to find something unique then select blinds is a place for you they take pride in their ability to manufacture blinds to order using a range of materials and fabrics they can take your needs, specifications and instructions to use them to create blinds of any colour or style if you're looking for something that you've seen in a catalogue the naked per range of popular blinds and stock each of which can be modified and sized to fit your windows perfectly whatever they're looking for an individual item or something that's off the shelf select blinds will give you that ideal choice when you make a purchase at select blinds the delivery and fitting is also free of charge so for enquiries for select blinds give them a call on 01236 443 636 or drop them a message on facebook page select blinds and shutters AM events are specialists in party, wedding and event planning management they offer services from full event planning and management right down to the stand alone venue dressing AM events drive for 100% customer satisfaction every time from email updates and how about the planning is going managing the day of the event they will support you the whole way through so for more information to make a booking pop down to their showroom at Unit 2 Foundry Street, Atlas, Industrial Estate and Glasgow their phone number is 01412373020 so pop along or else their social media pages are on facebook AM events and also Instagram at amevents.glasgo