 You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications button so you're notified for when my next podcast goes live. Boundaries are really set from me, like from the platform anyway. Like, if that was going to make me a lot of money, then probably I would do it. You know, I'm very money-rotated. Only fans, girls as well, they're not porn stars. They're not always going to be great at licking your veg because they probably don't even want to lick your veg. Like, it's something they just want to do for money. So, it's not that intesimacy, I guess. But I do enjoy it. Yeah, like, sometimes you think, oh, this girl is bloody awful. When I started getting surgery, like, it was all within a year. I got, like, a BBL, my boobs done, my vagina done. And I could have kept on going. But, you know, those were all things that I felt like I had to get to be, like, perfect in this, you know, sex-work job that I do and, like, be perfect and everything like that. And even now I'm like, I'm not perfect and I'm still getting called ugly, so what was the point? So there's no point just keeping, like, changing yourself because no one's ever going to be happy with the way you look. So you need to be happy within yourself. If I don't reach one million views on a TikTok, I'm like, that flopped. Like, that actually flopped. It could get, like, 500,000 and I'm like, I've, like, this is the end of the world. And, you know, I was always saying about, you know, me crying my eyes out at night to that. It was because I didn't think that I'd pulled that off and that's why I cry all the time. I actually went to a therapist and, like, basically they spoke about, like, work addiction. And I was like, okay, like, oh, fuck. But I thought it was, like, the weirdest 60 pound of my life to be told that I'm, like, addicted to work. Um, but yeah, I came out of that session thinking, you know, like, I could just hold you that myself. And we're on. Today's guest, we've got Elle Brooke. Elle, good to have you on. Hello. Good to see you. Good to see you. How are you? Good thank you. Congratulations on your fight. Thank you. Done well. Thanks. Girl who's social media's popping, TikTok, Instagram, you're a male's favourite. No doubt female's favourite as well. Yeah. Fascinating story. Glad to have you on. First and foremost, how are you? Yeah, I'm good. It's been a busy day, but I'm excited. I'm going to America next week. So, um, I'm doing work out there as well, but it's going to be good. Like going to bush gardens and all that. So I'm excited. I always go back to the start for my guests where you grew up and how it all began. Yeah. So, well, I was born in Portsmouth, like grew up around the area. Um, I don't know, like had a, all right upbringing, I guess. My parents split up when I was quite young. Um, I think, um, my mum and dad, well, I was like three years old. And my mum was a lot younger than my dad. She was like 14 years, age ago. And when she first had my sister, she was 20. And for me, I was 20, well, she was 21. So imagine me having two kids, like actual like kids. I can't imagine that. I don't know how people did that back in the day. Yeah. It was all school morals. One at 17, 18 married kids. Yeah. How about your school? Um, I was okay. Like good academically. Like I have good, um, like academic ability. But, um, as a person, probably not the nicest person in the world. I was like fat and ginger. Um, so I wasn't like confident with them myself. So like looking back and reflecting upon it. Um, I'm definitely a lot nicer person now, believe it or not. You're bullied. Um, I was like definitely picked on, yeah. Like if I showed you a picture, you'd be like, that is not you. Like I was massive, like huge. Um, yeah, I was not like, I was never the person that people fancy to score, I was just quite mad, but... Send us a photo, we'll put it on the screen. Sorry guys, sorry to break your screen. Is that, do you think that takes effect as a kid growing up, teenage years and stuff? Yeah, 100%. I think, um, you know, it definitely moulds you as a person, whether it be like who you hang around with, the community, where you're born, your parents you're upbringing. Um, definitely moulds who you are as a character. Was your dad around when you grew up? He was always there, but, um, he, well, he started to get ill when I was probably like 10, 11 called like Celerario Taxia, which is similar to, um, do you ever see the people do like the MS challenge? Yeah. Was that what it's called? But like you lose every kind of like, um, ability to like kind of move like slowly, like it's similar to that. Was it the ALS challenge? Like it's similar to MS. So, um, I watched him die over like a long period of time. And it was like, first of all, you know, having to use like a trolley to move and then like walk in stick and then losing his license and then being bedbound and then in a care home and then he died when I was 18. So, yeah, that shit's hard to my dad was the same. He was leukemia, but he was a big strong man. And after two years, you just see them deteriorate. Yeah. Part of you always thinks as they'll not die. They'll get better. Some miracle thing will happen. Yeah. You kind of hope that. But when they go, it threw me off anyway. Cause it's just not enough time on that cause you're taking for granted. Yeah. A hundred percent. But I think like where I was so young growing up, I think that, you know, it was like where the internet was booming. Like you're always trying to find, uh, cures online. Like whether or not there'd be like, um, like stem cell treatment, anything like that. So she said there's always that bit of hope, but I guess not everyone has that chance to recover. He's had a good relationship before he passed. Yeah. It's as good as it could be. I mean, um, it's hard growing up because when you're when your family is split up and you live with mum, like you don't want to spend every weekend at your dad's like, you want to go out with your friends. So, um, like looking back in it, you do. I kind of wish that it did spend more weekends at my dad's, but, you know, you want to go out with friends and you want to be a teenager. So it's kind of hard. You see your videos and stuff, like you're quite out there, quite flirty. Is that the way you were growing up? Or is that just the character you've kind of became as you've got older, more confident? I think, well, I do love male attention and I've always loved male attention. Like, um, even as a teenager, I think that once I kind of started not necessarily transforming, but like started getting, you know, not being this like ugly fat ginger kid. Um, so the attention was nice, but, um, don't think it's really a character. It is me and I love genuinely what I do. I guess. What was your first job? Um, my first job was in Oceana, like a nightclub when I was 18. Um, and I was a bartender and they didn't like, he trained me to be on bar. So I poured ice and beer and I gave it to someone and he looked at me disgusted. I just didn't understand at that time. I was like, oh, you're not really meant to do ice and beer. It's not a thing. Well, you're not at uni as well. I heard. Yeah. So it's like uni. So, um, I went to university of sorry for a year and then university of Southampton cause I just wanted to transfer near home, but I couldn't like jump into second year because the first years like academics were different. Um, but then I dropped out cause I didn't have any fans. And I was like, oh, guys is greener. Is that why you never followed it through? Yeah. And I think that maybe I was probably pushing myself to be someone I wasn't like, I don't know if, you know, I did, um, Laura a level when I got a, so I just assumed, right, I'll do Laura. I'll be good at it. I'm going to be rich one day. Um, I don't think it was anything that I really had like a strong passion in. Probably like I was, you know, going to be good at it and do well at it. So how do you go from study in law, A level student to then only fans? Um, so, um, I saw, um, like premium Snapchat girls on Snapchat and it's a lot different than it was now. Like only fans wasn't as popular back then, back then like three years ago, but, um, I was thinking, yeah, you know, I could do this. Like, you know, it's something I'd be good at. Um, so I first tried it and I was like, just doing it face this because it wasn't something that I wanted to pursue. Maybe like a bit pocket money, you know, it is when you're at uni. Um, so yeah, doing a face this great and I did that for a while and then I started showing my face and within two weeks, so many people found out like everyone in my hometown, like I've been in every single group chat of every single person I'm into school with and like their whole extended umbrella branch of friends. Um, so that was kind of shitty because that's the one thing I was trying to hide. I was like, yeah, I'll just show my face. No one's going to find out. And then two weeks later, everybody knows and I got on a stick for it because, um, it wasn't as normal then, like it now, if anyone starts any fans, it's like, oh, just another, another one, but less people did back then. So it's like, oh, our work's a slagged, you know, I mean, um, but it is what it is. And I think that probably if you are someone who posted me in a group chat now would they'd expect me to be as big as I am now. It's like, no, you know, they'll probably mocking me at the time, but they see probably where I am right now. And I guess so many people messaged me like fair play, uh, well done on that fight or anything like that. So, you know, you were laughing then, but it is what it is. Like, you know, people just don't understand and they love to mock other people and just try to be funny, I guess. That's what it's like. For people who don't understand it, then they become weird about it. Like I say back then three years ago, four years ago, if you're the first to step onto it and do it, you're the slag, you're the slug, you're the easy target. Yeah. What was the first batch of content you put on it? On premium Snapchat. Yeah. God, like everything, I guess. Like it, I never really went from a progression of, um, I know a lot of girls do like, right, I'm going to sell bikini pics and then topless and then pussy pics or anything like that. For me, it was always like to the point, um, like porn. But then I was on my story. So from Snapchat, I met this girl called Chloe and she was like, I'm making 10 grand a month with only fans. I was like, what the heck? Because on Snapchat, you pay a subscription, like all inclusive fee of like say 30 pounds and then they'd get your Snapchat forever. But then on a subscription like base platform, it builds every month. Um, and then the more subscribers you get and the more renew it's, you know, you get a lot more money. Um, so I moved on to only fans and then never look back. And I think it's a lot harder to do premium Snapchat now. How is that then for your mom to then she's fine. You're going to be a lawyer. A class student buzzing proud of you. Yeah. To be then tits out, zero Fox given. Yeah. New career path. How did she accept that? Um, she wasn't too bad to be honest. I was at my granddad's to be honest, I didn't tell her for a very long time. Like I started doing it in the December, um, just before my 21st birthday and I didn't tell her till gone November. So the reason I actually told I was cause I was at my granddad's birthday dinner. And he said something along the lines of like, uh, my nan did, are you, how's uni going? And I was like, I sell news on the internet for money. And she was like, what? And, uh, she genuinely thought I was kidding because, uh, someone likes to have butter and pull people's leg. And I was like sat there for five minutes, like, no, no. I know I, I know I joke a lot, but I'm genuinely not joking right now. I do actually do that. Um, but they took it quite well. Um, my mom's always been like really open with me. Um, she's not someone that's like overly conservative. She's quite open. So, um, don't get me wrong. She doesn't go to the pub and be like, Hey, my daughter's Elbrook. Do you want to see what she does for work? Like absolutely not. But, um, she'll stand by me. And I really appreciate that. So yeah, that's the most important thing. Like, did you think it would discredit you if you never had the support from your family? No, because I was doing it for a year anyway. If you've already established yourself. Yeah. So I mean, I wasn't, you know, the Elbrook I am today, um, but they hadn't all found out yet. And, um, you know, that was 10 months after I was enjoying it. And I just started to quit uni at that point. So even if I hadn't got their support, I probably would have still have done it. How did your friends and treat you then? Yeah, I think if you met me now and how I was at school, I've always been overly sexual and, you know, I always talked about sex and been open and, um, from a pretty young age. So I don't think it really shocked them. I mean, you know, they're supportive like, you know, if that's what you want to do, then you do it. And even now, they support me and want me to do the best. And they'll always be there. So how many people are doing on their finds back then? Do you know? But, uh, when I first started, I mean, there still was a few. I mean, I'm like, I'm not like the first top five. Like there's still like loads and loads of people are doing it, but it definitely blew up and became more popular after lockdown. Um, but yeah, definitely. I think only friends was only running like a year or so when I started where, you know, it's like a five year old company now. How do people treat you? The people that obviously you get married men who were watching you on the fly and they never come up to you and try and talk to you. Harashi. Uh, the only people that are really annoying generally like young groups and ads. Um, like yesterday me and Ben were at Westfield and I'm trying to do a tick tock like granted is a new sense that I have chosen a really public spot because I know it'll be a good tick tock because people like, oh, you know, she's like, she's in the middle Westfield making a tick tock. And they come up to you and they're like, oh, apparently you're a porn star. And you're just like, yes, I am. Can I film this tick tock? And like, even if, you know, like, you know, you say a little like small talk. Hi, lovely to meet you. They just stand there and wait like, what's your snap? What's your snap? And they can be like, quite persistent sometimes. Like I'm 24, you know. And I'm just like, oh, just leave me alone. You know, like sometimes people don't get the hint and they overstep boundaries because I think they probably think you are this like strange character online. They don't realize like you're a person deep down. Even at Johnny Fish's boxing last week in Sheffield, like a really nice group of lads were like asking for pictures and I was getting pictures with them and people will walk in past. They're like, apparently you're a porn star. Apparently you're a porn star. And they got like a picture, like a naked picture of me and like showed was like going to show me. But there was like one of the guys I with had to look like snatchers phone was like, don't show her that. Like these guys were like, like trying to fight the guy I was with. Like people are so like overly aggressive for no reason. It's weird that the guys see a girl getting their clothes off and they think easy targets. I know porn stars, who are far from it, they'll do their job. Listen, they might be fucking shagging three, four guys on set. But outside, they don't like speaking to anybody. Yeah. Are you finding that as the popularity rises as well that you're then becoming not degraded, but people are kind of thinking you're an easy target because you're what you do for a living. Yeah. 100%. I think people are always going to like think that she takes her closer from like, of course, she's going to be an easy target. Like she has no morals. But, you know, it's definitely not like that. What about stalkers or that? I, to be honest, I'm really lucky. I've never had someone to the point where it's been, you know, like in person. You get the people that online are like persistent at no stop, but it's never been to the point where I've ever had to like contact the police or nothing, a block would ever stop. But, you know, like touch wood that never happens because that stuff's scary. When did you start blowing up? When did you start seeing a change in people from the girl who's just doing that bit of fun, making a bit of dough to then everybody talking about it, everybody watching your stuff, all the followers, like when did you start seeing the boom of it? Probably from the rise of TikTok, to be honest. Last summer, I had my Twitter suspended for like some copyright bullshit. And I was like, so distraught. I had almost like, I think almost 500,000 followers. That's how I made my bread, like how I made my dough. Like that was how I made my money. And it was, it killed me. Like as stupid as it sounds, like that social media account was my life because Instagram's always got deleted all the time. That I was like, crap, what do I do? And on Twitter, you can't just make a new account. They will block every single one you make. It's like, I don't know if it's an IP thing or whatever. So I was like, right, TikTok, let's try it on here. And then ever since that TikTok is like the most popular app, especially with young people. So ever since that it's just been crazy because it's the kind of hit the ground running, to be honest. Never been kicked off at that. Oh my God, I've had so many accounts. I think I'm like, seven, but I've had IML Brook for a whole year now. But to be fair, before that, I had accounts, but they constantly got deleted because I was always like pushing the guidelines. You know, like you, even if you're trying to do innuendos, like you need to play by the rules, but obviously you can still do a job. You've just got me more clever and subtle about it. So what kind of content for your only fans? How do you create your content? Obviously you're not a porn star. You don't clash yourself as a porn star, but you have sex and stuff on your only fans. Yeah, of course. So how does that come about? Is it other people who work on only fans? Like how do you manage to pick the person you sleep with? Is it somebody else's get content? You share it? Like how does it work? Yeah, most of the time you'll work with other creators and you'll share it because that's the easiest thing because I think people assume you just have sex with everyone, but you need to get these STD tests done, you need to care about your health, and you want to make sure that the person you're, you know, literally sleeping with is a respectful person. So if you're sleeping with other creators, then I guess that eliminates the chance of them being an absolute weirdo. So most of the time they are like other, like professionals. Because I know the porn industry, they're tested every couple of days. Yeah, it's bad. If you've got to make your board, it's not just some fucking random who you're trying to get content from. Exactly. And I mean most of the time I film with other girls anyway. It's only like the males, well especially this year, it's only been like Danny D or 20 cents. My caliber of men is like ridiculously high. So it's mainly girls. There's not many in the industry, but they're two of the biggest. Yeah, 100%. So, you know, I've done Kiran Lee, because girls are so many famous porn stars, like a female, but males like, you know, I guess it's like, you know that, like you only need, is it like one ball to like pregnant like 50, like female cows? You know, like in a farm, they only have like one male. That's literally what it's like in the porn industry. Just like one stud and like so much pussy. How does that relationship come with them? Did they contact you or do you contact them? Do you just see that as a straight down business money maker? They're big in a game. Yeah. They'll use you, you'll use them basically. I think both times, Johnny Sins definitely messaged me first. And this was like in COVID, but I couldn't go over to America because of COVID. Danny D, I'm pretty sure he messaged me first. Maybe I didn't, maybe I messaged him, but you know, we knew who we were, each other were for a very long time. What about the porn industry? They never came forward for your money. So like every single one, like Black, Taxi, Brazzers, Dogfight, like so many of them. But you know, you want to own the rights and the loyalties for your content because people catfish me right now and pretend to be me. I want to catfish myself when I'm 40. You know, I want to always sell my content. I even sell my, you know, my first sex tapes now because people want to see it. So, you know, this is something I want to be doing for a very long time. So I'll continue to sell all my tapes. I'll be sorted. How much of these companies do you remember what Brazzers are? Is, but I know that fake taxis like 500 pounds a day. Fuck off. Oh, man. Bumhole. And to get fucked in a taxi. And I'm pretty sure that it's two scenes as well. And I mean, this isn't them offering it to me now. This was when I was first starting, but people love it because it's that gateway into the industry. It's a stepping stone exposure. But God, I could never. And then you sign the rights for that for life. Like you're not going to have a record of a hundred thousand years. Five hundred pounds done. And then the company gets you know all the loatties and everything like that. Because I've had porn stars on and their first porn scene or whatever they do, they get sold on five years, 10 years time. They hold it back because if they crack it or they're massive, they just then sell it for fucking thousands, hundreds of thousands. Yeah, depends how big they go. Is it even, is it like me at Califera and like Lana Rhodes still have like so many sex tapes You know like not fresh out of people's mind but more untouchable, I guess. What made you not go down that route? Because people would be thinking it's kind of the same, but it's not the same yeah yourself employed your own boss only fans Which I believe anyway, but yeah, if you're trying to get in that industry people do what it takes Yeah, I like Shaku they want to try and get to higher status that yeah, especially for a young girl You weren't obviously using manipulated. I believe a lot of people in that industry can be Manipulated as if it's a stepping stone the right move, but pretend they're in the late 20s early 30s I kind of damaged that yeah, how did you make that decision not to go down that route? Oh to witness I was so close with filming with I don't think it was fake taxi. It was like their umbrella brand Like is it my geek? Um, but I was gonna go to Prague I was gonna do everything but I pulled out just because you know, I got scared that you don't when I film an only fans video in my bedroom or wherever that can be I can cut out the bits I don't like and if I'm feeling insecure or if I did something that you know, I knew I didn't like Where I didn't want to be on the internet forever for life Then I have the power to cut that out and eliminate that so um I think it's the control thing and as I said before like I'll always Make money from that content so to sell everything for such is it's not not a lot of money You know like 500 pound or someone is a huge amount of money Like it's still a good payday for one day's work But what you can make from a sex tape at your home and resell it from months and Weeks and years on is you know, it's like the long game. It's not just the immediate What's do you see our sec tip for it depends what it is? My Johnny sins one was quite expensive because it's Johnny sins. I think that was like 40 dollars, but Girl girl's only cheaper. I think that's like 15 boy girl Sorry, Danny. They didn't make it It's like 25 So it's a little bit cheaper. So that's for subscriptions of people just want to buy it Oh, so that's just the one of the of the video. So you get like a $15 base description That's like the bare minimum and then you can purchase added extras So how does your only fans work then how is it levels? Is it tears? How does it work? Yeah, so it's levels. So you get still a good feed um of like, you know, it's like Pictures like naked pictures or whatever like that. But then if you want to buy anything like extra saucy or naughty um, then You'd have to pay extra for it and I never used to be like that I used to have like an all inclusive fee where I'd put all my videos up on my on my screen On my feed that um, but a you make less money I'm going to be honest with you and b it gets leaked everywhere because people are just paying that $15 To see every single video and they're just going to share it everywhere But if you're having to pay $45 for a video, what's the chances that you're going to leak it? You know, um, it's it's still going to be leaked don't get me wrong, but it's minimalized How many sex tapes have you done? Um girls probably like 40 guys And a lot of them are with the same like guys. So probably Yeah, probably 60s How long does it take to do a sex tape? Because obviously in the Pondland It's just sometimes are there six or 12 hours different angles. Is it the same for only fans? Is it different if you've got a camera crew or you just filming it? Um No, a lot of the time it would just be like a camera put in the corner and then you can get to it Like I don't always like to have someone Holding the camera recording it but the great thing about amateur porn I think why I love amateur porn and I watch amateur porn Is that you could grab your iPhone right now when we could make a video in the toilets for five minutes And that's how quick it would take, you know, you don't have to have that caliber of professionalism because people aren't investing in that They would go on porn hub and watch that they're investing in you and the naughty things you get up to Whether that be like in your bedroom on a night out. They don't want you always looking fancy They want to see like the real you and my best sex tapes have been the ones where I've been like Looking ugly, but people love that and they love the rawness of it Do you plan out the content now as your obviously name's getting bigger? Or is it just a case of kamikaze job sometimes? I do tend to plan it out now because You know, like the girls you work with all the men in that it needs to make more sense because For me now and it never used to be this way. It's definitely quality over quantity It's not the amount of people you can fuck and film and then push them sex tapes out It'd rather be for me people That I know I get on with and I love and I genuinely want to work with and it be less Like I had a club earlier Oh, yeah, so I've gone straight from that to here I wasn't even, that's not how I'm sweating by do it No with a hex girl. So, um, yeah, it's been busy. So I haven't worked for a very long time But last Friday and this week I had two clubs And that was with a ghetto. Yeah, both with girls. As I said, I'm really particular I don't know what it is now. I think um, this sounds really bad, but I've had some sex tapes I really regret making and you can't take something off of the internet and it's with guys as well That um, it's really put me off just filming with anyone because you know, and especially in porn I but I can imagine that's the same for a lot of people that there's always going to be scenes that they didn't enjoy Or like like walking chin back. So at least now I have that power that whatever I make at least I know I'm going to want that on the internet. Wish I'd be a good seller Is it with a woman or a man was just subscribers love? Definitely with a man I guess that's what they want to see and that's what they want to imagine. Can they message you as well? The fans? Yeah, yeah, of course. You might do you ever get rate creepy bastards? Yeah, of course you do like um, but you come immune to it Like it's not something like you lose sleep over, you know, everyone's horny and they have fantasies And I guess they think, you know, this person behind this keyboard. Okay me is just someone they could vent to I get absolute creeps on that but you know, the majority of my subscribers They are so lovely and a lot of them just want to chat They tell me all about their days and I what they had for their birthday cake flavor You know, like anything like, you know, they just want someone to speak to so It's nice getting to know people as well. Have you had any weird requests? Weird requests. I get really request all the time, but weird to me is a completely different word to you You know, like I get asked to like poo on camera. I get raped by ghost Do you like all kinds of like weird things like is there's like So many things like that. It's like off like crazy. Like like every people even like incest Uh, you're you're gross Like like hopefully you're not practiced that in real life You just jerk off to like fake videos of like step bro porn because that's that's tough Yeah, because I had Sophia and I love Sophia that she's uh, once you actually understand her story You see where she's came from to what she's doing. Now you get a better understanding of her life But she shits on her man. Yeah, she shits on her and I'm thinking that I don't mind about Appreciate the honesty that it's just a bit fucking that's just next level shit Shit Do you know what I mean? Was that yeah, would there ever be any amount of money for you to go? Shit on me Um, yeah, I'd try it on you for like not that much money But if you would have to pay me a lot of money to shit on me because I think those that's that's definitely where my boundaries are Um Yeah, pee I could do. Yeah, that's a piece of press. Yeah It's just actual feces that it's just something about it that just makes my stomach turn Yeah, and try acting sexy at the same time. It's all about acting I had a dominatrix on as well and That's like the guy's fetish man. She's shatting a dog bone. He's sitting eating it as if it was a bowl of rice krispies Yeah, there are some strange people on the internet. It's funny Robi That's my job is not to judge people my job is to interview people and get an understanding of them and their life Everybody on this planet is different. Yeah, doesn't necessarily mean it's a fucking right thing to do But everybody's different. Everybody's got different fetish. You're talking about top judges lawyers politicians They're they go weird. Yeah, but it seems to her own as long as you're not harming anyone. I'll give two fucks What's um, where's your boundaries? Where would you say no to? um So that is I think I've always pushed my boundaries from like early in my career in that sense. I mean I wouldn't do Who because anyway, you can't sell it on a sex tape Like that's something you're not allowed to do on any fans and even technically pee You're not allowed to obviously you can squat and everything like that. So there's definitely he's the blood, you know, like any kind of really like Intense Like fisting or anything like that. So like boundary is a really set from Me like from the platform anyway, like if that was going to make me a lot of money, then probably I would do it You know, I'm very money irritated But if you can't sell it then what's the point? So only fans has got limits Is that an effort or was a fucking free for all of them honest? No, it has limits and there's like Certain things you can't do like you can't like Put pictures on there you are out in public, which is obviously to like protect other people But um, a lot of it has to do with like the banks and master cards and all their policies The people give you money just for tips and stuff and then they never request anything for you to do inviduals or How does it work? Yeah, you can do like, um, additional content That people pay for like people pay for anything like a video. I guess like a cameo, but like a rude one Anything like feet pics like drawing your name on something armpits belly buttons Like you in the shower like you sat in like pink underwear eating crisps Like people ask the most random requests and like if you're getting paid to do it, then Why not? They just want to see you. I think they just like you being like a little puppet that they can just make Anyone do anything which how you want to find the balance then from amateur porn To then tick tock because your tick tock's popping as well. Your videos are great. They're fun kids will watch that but Because it's two ends of the spectrum Yeah, I mean, where do you go? Like you're in the middle now. Is that a crossroads you're at? Are you just enjoying doing both? Are you thinking about doing one and not doing the other? No, I definitely um like sex work is like who I am essentially and it's something I really love doing But that is my what I'm trying to do actually Crossroads because I want to become more mainstream I don't want to just be known as this like only fans creator or a porn star or porn actress adult actress because I think that can pigeonhole you into only so many opportunities or it's if you branch branch branch out and be more generalized and More mainstream then it's going to give you more opportunities and brands will want to work with you And essentially it's going to bring you in more money um, so that is you know my goal and I hope that's working to Be more of like an online personality that does only fans rather than an only fans girl that does tick tock See when you're sleeping with women men, do you ever grow a connection or is it just Call to it or is it because I've asked porn stars that they enjoy it some of them don't some of them still do but It's hard if you're doing it all the time. There's a they lose the buzz for it. If you know what I mean I think my favorite thing. I don't really get it with girls But definitely with boys like I get dead nervous before I seen I don't know why I think maybe it's because I do less of them, but it's kind of like, you know, you're with them and then all of a sudden you're on a fuck I don't know if it's just like the masculinity of like the other person um But that's You know, there's not always a connection that to me. I think even from a very young age I've always distinguished the like lust and love of sex um And with girls, so I like enjoy having sex with them 100 and that's why I'm so picky because I know they're Going to be good But with girls, I mean I've set with men and guys Men and guys guys and girls in the past or sex hips. I haven't enjoyed but Recently everyone I've worked with their heart. They're amazing. I mean only fans girls as well. They're not porn stars They're not always going to be great at licking your veg because they probably don't even want to lick your veg Like it's something they just want to do for money. So there's not is that innocent to missy, I guess But um, I do enjoy it. Yeah, like, um, sometimes you think oh, this girl is bloody awful. What about them Relationships. Yeah, how do you struggle to keep a relationship? I suppose all men accept your job. It's a turn on for a lot of people. It's a lot of fetishes But as men there's a control in nature's kicking in it. So yeah, how do you manage to keep a relationship if you can with your job? Is that hard? To be honest, I've not really like had anything serious. So it's not really affected me. Like I've just kind of been Uh Like focusing on work right now. Like, you know, like you have more relaxed Relationships or like open relationships, but nothing too Serious right now because it's where I'm at. I'm not looking for anything too serious. So, um, You know, my heart's not broken if a guy can't handle my job or anything like that because Right now my only vision is work and to be like the biggest version of myself Have I ever had my heart broken? Um A few times when I was younger, but then was that love at that point I don't know when you were 16 crying your eyes out eating ice cream. I don't know if I can call that love Um, but to me at that point it definitely felt like it. Yeah. What about having kids for the future? Um Do you think that a bit hard as well with Your job as well because a lot of porn stars are a friend, georgia leo. She was a scottish porn star She's got a beautiful son and she doesn't really care But then obviously when you start growing that family life, then The conscience is a mad thing. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Do you ever think about that? I don't know if you want kids for the future, but is that player and your mind? Um, I mean it is something I've thought about but I don't want like it's something that's not in my vision right now Because I don't want kids for at least I'm like 33 like I want to build my life. I want to build my career I want to build a foundation that if I if I had kids, you know People will make fun of them or whatever but then I'm driving a Ferrari, you know like to me that would be um Not revenge, but you know like Would ease off the guilt I guess because you know, you don't want your kids to be picked on and it is You wouldn't you would want your kid having the best upbringing ever because you know, I've been in school I was I was not the nicest like kids are nasty. They are like Dyke bullies and school's not a nice or easy place to be so you definitely do think about that and you know How you doing what you do could affect them So I do think it is something you need to be conscious about but then you need to be open with them as well But being bullied in the past and stuff. You said you're the heavier kid ginger hair Now it's an extreme. It's not just one or two people persons at school. Well, now you're talking hundreds of people who control it How do you do you think being bullied at a younger age has helped you? Have thicker skin to deal with things now or do you never really get used to people being bastards? Yeah, it's hard because you know, like I've always kind of Welcome to hate in a sense because To me it's easier to like laugh it off and not like go and cry about it Like obviously then the comments do affect you like even like the beginning this year Every single tiktok comment was like bulking bulking season bulking tips and I just used to make tiktoks like Bulking seasons any over, you know, like you'd have to make fun of it like even though I was never bulking I'll maybe put on a few pounds but Tiktok is absolutely roofless like right now. I get called brook less now all the time I mean, I kind of do see it so I do, you know, I get what they're coming from but You know, like like mid like clapped like everything like that and like I did think about this the other day when I was in bed I was like it doesn't make me lose sleep, but it definitely um, it's probably changed Uh, how I think about myself like I probably don't look at myself and think, you know, I like I don't think oh my god I'm really attractive because you know, I'm I'm not trying to be attractive because that's what I've been told of that makes that's like I'm not out here being like, oh, yeah, I'm like a really sexy tiktoker I'm focusing on just trying to be funny and do my job like if people call me Like made and not attractive and everything like that then, you know, it's okay because that's how I already like reflect upon myself Already years that you've probably dreamed of being in this position like in front of thousands only fans popping tiktok popping But they still get the insecurity thoughts where you don't feel good enough Yeah, of course, and I think this industry is hard because you're constantly comparing yourself to other people um, and you want to be the best and you want to be the best and This is a job that you get paid on your look So if one month you didn't do as well as the other month like it makes you question yourself like did I fall off like Am I not doing as well? Am I not good looking? Um, but yeah, it is hard and I've thought about getting so many plastic surgeries and everything done um To me my face and my body and everything like that, but then each do you realize like a You need to get to a position that you're comfortable within yourself to start because where does the line draw? Because when I started getting surgery like it was all within a year I got like a bbm my boobs done my vagina done and I could have kept on going but you know those were all things that I felt like I had to get to be like perfect in this You know sex work job that I do and like be perfect and everything like that And even now I'm like I am not perfect and I'm still getting called ugly. So what was the point? So there's no point just keeping um Like changing yourself because anyone no one's ever going to be happy with the way you look So you need to be happy within yourself. So I guess I hope there's something to get the funny done What happened there? Um, so I was really conscious when I'm on vagina and I get that it's perfectly normal And everyone has like different vaginas, but you know, you always see people like mocking like ouchies or like meaty fannies Cabal fannies everything like that and it mortified me it absolutely mortified me and I would I just like Comments and stuff like that. They're the ones that really stuck because that was always something I was really self-conscious about so I was like I I can't have this I need like a perfect porn star vagina Which doesn't even exist like tiny innings like that's not a perfect vagina But you know, even now I get men might be and I oh what I could be of me You know, like you should have kept it. So, you know, you're never going to please anyone um But you know, I'm happy with the way it looks now and I'm glad I got it But it's just You know, like I wouldn't have never have got it if I wasn't in the porn industry. What did they do? They literally just cut they put that on the outer parts to make it fatter because I got lipo there And they cut off the insides So like the labia is like in now not out Yeah, and you got when you made that decision and that was an insecurity it was in your mind or somebody commented It was like both like it was always something something that was really insecure about um, but then you know, like I think to see in comments and everything like that is, you know When someone points out an insecurity it it it does hit home more because That's something you're already conscious of whereas if people are calling you more like random Or like generalized being comments like they're easier to brush off But if you're already feeling Insecure about something and as someone points it out like even if there's the thousand lovely comments If there was that one comment that you saw that was there's something you're you know, not confident within like that sticks What's the worst thing anybody's ever says? Well, I think nothing it like, you know what like nothing sticks to mine because it's been so many years of so many things Like constantly getting called clubbed like you look like a man. You look transgender Uh, your legs are far like your jawline. You've got massive chin Like everyone who's always been so mean about my looks everything like that So I think you become like immune to it. I guess, you know, like nothing ever I've never thought oh my god in 2019 this one tweet like it's just so like immune to the hate I guess because it's something you read every day. How do you Move on from a down day because we all get them no matter how successful or how much money we have I struggle fucking Two or three times a week and you have to push yourself to keep put Kind of going on because it's no point. It's sitting sulking. Yeah No matter what you achieve or what money comes in a material materialists. It's all bullshit. Anyway, it doesn't fulfill What others missing inside is like, how do you Move on from a down day because you clearly get your head screwed on you've got a good energy about yourself Like you're not I speak to a lot of people it's an industry and you can see a lot of broken Totally fucking broken with the childhood that you've had a decent childhood You've just found an avenue to make money, but how do you then Kick on from a down day if it really gets you like comments get you and you just fucking drained with it Like I I cry so much like so much and I think that it's just like As bad as it sounds like like you think you're at rock bottom But everything normally gets bad but it's easy for me to say because I'm in the position I am like if I'm feeling crappy that day because something's not gone by or One tiktok didn't go well like there are you know other people out there that you know I think they just like empathize that the position I'm in right now And that it will get easier and like everything is only like temporary Like when I wake up in the morning like nine times out of ten like I'm feeling better It's just like having like a I like Like a mood and then it being region like Reborn the next day like into something great So um, but usually I kick steam off if I go to the gym or anything like that If I'm feeling sluggish because I have this really bad hammer habit of if I'm feeling Sad or crap I eat like it's like food. I think as far as the fat ginger kid Like food has always been my comfort and I've got like a really bad relationship with it um So I eat myself to death And then like the next morning I try and go to the gym Start the new day fresh because if anything goes wrong like crying and eating is like my first go to Yeah, is there anybody you can speak to as well when you're feeling having a down day? Yeah, I have a lot of good people around me. So I'm very lucky in that sense How do you obviously like I've said you've got your hair screwed on but when's that enough like you say 33 Maybe want to settle down but a lot of people it's in the industry Can't get out for some reason. Do you ever feel as if he's don't want to vent late 30s 40s? This needs to her own but I'd imagine the longer you do it the more tiring and draining to become trying Just pay bills that when as a cutoff point for you if you've got a target in your head Is it just I'll do it to him early 30s and then change career path. So what's your plans for it? I don't have like certain milestones that I'm thinking, you know quit by this time buy a house at this time you know have kids um like nothing like that but I still like the sex industry right now and how I'm doing it. I'm happy doing it for like the foreseeable future like um Don't get me wrong. I don't want to be doing it forever Like hopefully I can lean on my other avenues like tick tock or if boxing lifts off or anything like that um, it would be good to use other in like avenues and I guess that's why um for me I'm trying to branch out and trying to do different things So I don't just have to rely on the only fans forever because I know For me, that's not something I want to do long term. So I'm definitely trying to like diversify um What would you like to do? I have no idea I have no one goal I just want to be the best version of myself and the most successful version of myself and whatever like elbrook becomes um But what that may be I have no idea Do you feel confident enough that to kick on in your career in your life? Or does it got to be the insecurities kicking again where you need to get more work done or I struggle with views that we have millions of views a month youtube downloads And if I don't have a certain number, I think sometimes that abandonment issues kicking you don't think you're good enough Yeah, 100 it's fucking weird man. I I used to Hit 10,000 views on a youtube video and I've been buzzing Yeah, if I'm not getting past three million four million views a month like you're kind of Am I not loved anymore? Yeah, do I fall off? Yeah, there's never any It's fucking hard to explain, but there's never any I don't know. I don't know if i'm appreciating it as much because it now it's a business Now is It's just become a job that do you struggle with that if you don't have a certain amount of targets or views you think Abandonment issues kick in insecurities kick in. Yeah, I'm not loved anymore Yeah, 100% if if this sounds so bright, but if I don't reach like a hundred hundred If I don't reach one million views on the tick tock I'm like that flopped like that actually flopped it could get so it's like 500,000 and I'm like I've Like this is the end of the world and you know, I was always saying about You know me crying my eyes out at night to that it was because I didn't think that I had pulled that off And that's why I cry all the time because I just don't think I've done Good or I've done better enough and you know, you always see people around you Doing great and not that you're jealous of them But you're thinking why am I not doing that like why am I not achieving the same results as them? So it just make you go insane and I think that like success is like one big circle And it's not linear like it's up and down and you're always going to go for these patches that don't Always go straightforward and to plan That's just part of The journey But yeah, just it is hard when you put so much pressure on yourself because I want to say that I'm competitive at every single thing I do as well like as bright as it sounds. I want to be the biggest. I want to be the best I want to be the best version of myself that when you have that mindset You're kind of like setting yourself up to fail because you're never like what is the best Like who what is the end goal and especially when you don't have one? It's like what are you trying to achieve? So I am my own worst enemy a hundred percent. Yeah, it's constant pressure. You don't enjoy the journey Yeah, I get this guest get these views and then it's okay. You're buzzing for 10 seconds 20 seconds Then it's all constant on to the next. I want to be the biggest and the best I believe I am but I still levels to go to crack go to America do other things to then Take things levels, but you've got to believe it before you've got it or else You've never put it into existence that but it's just constant fucking pressure. Yeah, you enjoy the journey like Wake up and go, you know what? It's a good day or you just constantly try to create more I am so stressed out all of the time like so stressed out because I do put that pressure on myself to be Like who I envision myself to be and when I'm not getting there or like quick enough fast enough then You know, it only upsets me and makes me frustrated But I mean like sometimes I look at where I've come in this journey from like three years to like now like It's just so crazy and I think you know when I said about the dream about like being mainstream Like the amount of people got up to be like, well done Like congrats on winning that boxing match on everything So now it's not only just like oh you're that girl from tick tock that like even if My you know my earnings are not like this like my vision is going like this. So it's about, you know, it's too and fro Um, but I think I definitely need to be a lot easier on myself Like I'm so hard on myself like if something doesn't go well. I beat myself up about it. I don't think I'm good enough I think I'm ugly. I think I've fallen off don't think I'm funny enough just I Screw to nice myself so bad to the point it gets me so like low and deep that You know, like but I just managed to keep pushing on and I think you know That is my one drive like being competitive and I wanting to be the best that gets me pushing on because no like you can't No one's going to do it for you. You have to do it yourself You have spoke to anybody about that um I actually went to a therapist and like basically they spoke about like work addiction and I was like, okay like But I thought it was like the like weirdest 60 pound of my life to be told that I'm like addicted to work um But yeah, I came out of that session thinking You know like I could have told you that myself um She was like going through the five senses and stuff but obviously there was other issues in there but to be told I was addicted to work was just like You know, like have you tried putting your phone down? Like just don't want to hear it It's a major addiction and I was at sea. I went to see a fairy-poust there last month went four or five times. Yeah and I just Because I want to enjoy the fucking journey. Yeah, I don't feel as if because I'm constantly trying to level up I'm constantly trying to prove. I don't know if I'm proving myself or other people I don't know what the fuck who I'm trying to fucking prove but Spoke to my few times and it's just the same shit. I just don't feel as if He understood. Yeah Because you've got to be I wouldn't say possessed but it's an obsession Yeah, but I've got addicted personalities. I fucking change so many but this has became an addiction And I'm scared to stop because when I stop the demons kicking. Yes the voices get louder I can't have time off because I go insane if I'm not doing like I will literally end up walking around my house or my day off like going crazy like I always like Want a day off and need a day off and then I have it and I'm like I hate it You know is it is an addiction? I guess you're forgotten Yeah, exactly like I just what's that they like then for on your day off? What do you do? Absolutely, right if I was eat. I'm so addicted to food. So bad. It's either work or food But just sit and watch TV and not do my makeup or anything like that because You know, it's always makeup every day Try sorry try to look your best every day that You want to have days off and you want to you know be Slop So that's why I appreciate doing it. I must let you speak about that stuff Because all your videos are bubbly very outgoing happy smile that you ever talk about the deep stuff what people can understand and relate to a bit like Life's not all fucking rainbows and butterflies. Yeah I'm I hate speaking obviously about the hate because I don't want to show weakness. I think that For me that was the lot, you know, you're giving these people what they want like they want to see you broken They want to see you not want to get up and make tiktoks. They want to see you fail So putting that out there, you know, I like I'm worried and I'm scared that that's what Like you're giving them what they want So I've always kept that quite like separate and I just for me I don't want to feel like You know, let's feel sorry for Elbrook like she's got a few nasty comments online Like I don't want to be known as that I want to be someone that's like Positive energy and I want that to be my brand because that's how I try Keep myself away from it. Anyway, like if I was constantly like responding to hate or highlighting the hate So I think that'd make it worse Yeah, because fucking words kill people man at business people suicidal thoughts and not feeling as if you're good enough like I went to see the Elvis film and they fucking the most Successful fucking musician on the planet like everybody know who he was He'd done a live audience of 1.5 billion people watched it and he had a breakdown with his wife and says What if people forget me? Yeah, and this was the most famous man on the fucking planet Like we know we're near that level, but it just shows you there's never ending like you say It's just a big circle. You're never going to be satisfied. Always use Tyson fury's prime example as well He won all the belts had all the money had all the fame that hurt the biggest depression of his life Suicide they'll put on ten stone. Yeah, because there's never I saw something inside a human that's always fucking missing like because we there's no blueprint or manual What the fuck we should be doing in life. We're all winging it Yeah, what you're doing. I'm doing Ben's doing like we just don't it's not Is this what it's about because there's always It just doesn't feel right sometimes we'll have one moments. It feels okay But then you actually sit with your own thoughts you think what the fuck isn't I'm doing you question everything Do you ever sit and think question everything you've done as well? Yeah, sometimes I do think How could my life be different if I never did this but I'm so content and so happy with The position I am now like obviously I've made mistakes and you know, there's things in my career I wish I never did or films I never made or things like that. What problems I know you're like trying to ask me people there's There's like sex takes I've made with guys that I just think I really regret that being on the internet because Just they I don't know what they make me want to puke inside like even just thinking it right about it right now I think when I first started especially I just wanted clout. I just wanted money. I just wanted a quick payday I just was desperate to get this content out and you know Make money that um, I did these scenes and on reflection It's like I don't even sell them now. I'm that like repulsed by them Like I can't I they're done like I wish I could take it off the internet But they're there and you can't take them back So um, but I just look at that as like a life lesson that just I do that again like double don't rush into anything Um, which is what I've learned now behind six a wonderful thing We can change the past but like you say we can fucking learn from it. You've done amazing like 24 You get your head screwed on you're making a batter though. You called up to fucking fighting a boxing match sold out arena Yeah done great. But congratulations. I know AJ. She's a wee scrapper as well tough man Like two weeks notice you've got to take your hat off to the girl for taking that fight Especially with you training with world-class trainers world-class fighters like You're a tough opponent and they're beating for somebody to take up that That you got the takes curries like how did that come about was that another girl you were fighting with in a nightclub or some shit Yes, uh lungs through cut short. So um, I got DM'd by kingpin. You'll be boxing organizers to do an event and um I was like, yeah I really want to start boxing and they said do you have anyone in mind and I was speaking to my manager chris And we thought, you know astrid wet because we're so similar You know like The brand by brand is very similar. So that would be make the most sense like make this beef and everything like that So um, I DM'd her spoke about it Remember going around her house like talking about it and how we're going to create all this fake beef Everything like that and then even you know, you said about the nightclub like I went to her house before um Went to mr. My Aggies for five minutes like stood in the corner with like everyone texting being like, okay astrid's walking past now Like go past here to do a fake fight to then leave to go back to her house um But then everything changed when um, you know, we were doing in instagram live and she doxed me So she told everyone like I lived in portsmouth. My real name was crystal and I think you like people don't really understand what it means for a sex worker to have um Like a fake name like it's something that protects you against your family Like people you don't want your real name out there, you know, is someone um, that's isolated because sex work can be so dangerous um So her doing that I think uh Yeah, I think it was just fake beef that went too far because you're always going to cross the boundaries I think when you want to get one up on an argument Lines are going to be crossed um and for for me. She really really crossed the line Um, because she didn't gain anything from it. I don't think you Like what do you get out of telling the whole world? Oh, she's lying to you have real names crystal like like so many porn stars have fake names I didn't make this up because i'm trying to deceive anyone um That it was just nasty in spiteful and it didn't make her look any better And I could have right then right there been like your real name is I didn't like that's not something. Um, I would have done because um I know how it feels so um, I you know, I didn't fight fire with fires. So either she'd do that I I have no idea. You know after that we still um, I think there was still a good four weeks until she pulled out of the kingpin uh Event that we never really spoke about it the next day her manager texts me and was like, um, hey What time do you want to announce today? Ra ra ra like I don't think they even knew like the severity Of it, you know, because now I've got people on tiktok being like ha ha real names crystal and everything like that but um that night Oh Came off that live. I went straight for a walk in the words. It was like pitch black at this point Like getting dark basically and I was out for like hour and a half just walking around the words I burn enough steam crying my eyes out because for me I had built up this brand for like three years and Elbrook was my life. Like, you know, I like I'm addicted to work. This is this is my child for someone then to like give away information that I had kept so Uh, secretive and like mine for three whole years to be burst um, you know, so unexpectedly when I'm on a live and everyone could see my exact reaction Killed me like it's like having my hands pulled out of like public like I felt so exposed and so vulnerable And yeah, I just felt like Elbrook was dead to me that night and I think Why didn't you figure out what happened? She pulled out for numerous reasons. Uh, claimed I was on roids uh, lots of you know, to and fro on that sense and that the kingpin event was um unsafe because there was no headguards but There was you knew that and there was no drug testing. You knew that that was all in the contract But you know, I I I can't speak for her on why she actually pulled out only she she knows that um, but Yeah, we didn't find it. So it's you're training me. Somebody best like big johnny fisher who I love to bits Ebony bridges love to bits Uh, tubs like your coach. Yeah a lot of great names. They're like, yeah, who was it? innocent young girl like only fans Try to make something of a life Listen to anybody that wants to get in fight. It takes so much courage. I don't give a fuck who you are amateur Whether it's you're fighting like to go under those ropes and have a tear up. It's it's because you're nervous I don't give a fuck who you are that it's nerve-racking even the the biggest professional still gets nervous because you're pride's on the line Your ego's on the line like You're putting yourself totally out there because everybody wants to see you get beat even the people closest to you the fuckers like How was it making that decision and sticking to your guns and was that to just prove everybody that You could do it or what was your your method of thinking? Yeah, a hundred percent. I think I've always been a bit of a fighter anyway. I've had a sister that's like one year gap So we've had fights. I've had fights at school. I've always been like an overly aggressive person like in my clubs or scraps Um, so it's something that I was never like all boxing never It was something that really interests me and you know, I think boxing is one of those things That's so great because people will want to win if they love you or they hate you because they want to see you win Or they want to see you lose, you know, there's 50 50 um But it's something I'm really enjoying being in the gym. So I definitely want to keep at it I was at the gym today. Um, yeah, I'm in love with it. I'm in love with the discipline It's given me because it's definitely changed Um my life like a hundred percent How are you feeling on the brunt to the fight? Do you know what? I was so confident until the day of the fight. I think that's because you've got You know, you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be here Like I knew I I always thought I was gonna win but I genuinely thought I was gonna knock her out But that's just me being naive like, you know, you always think you're gonna do something But it's for two minutes like, you know, and especially with an opponent There's not is completely different to you and it's got a tactic to do that was the best possible tactic against Your moves and your offense. So, um Yeah, that day because you go away around all morning all afternoon Sit watch the other fights that it builds up and the nerves build up and when you can hear the crowd and You're doing the ring walk and you hear thousands of people screaming. Yeah, you think what about if I don't got this? Yeah The other boys that were fighting man, they seem to be going back and forth with the fucking words as well Like heavy stuff like a lot of hate. Yeah. Yeah. Did you know these two beforehand? No, um, I know them through the event and to be honest both boys actually seem like I've met Simon fully Like he's been to my house would and take dogs and everything like that. He's sound and Ed I was always a bit cautious on but I saw him on like one of the press conference days and he was on his own He was actually really nice. So, um, I do I do like Ed. I think my perception probably changed them You know, like you're like even I'm guilty of it. You prejudge people But I can only you know speak of how he treated me that day and he was like really nice and everything like that So how did you feel when you won? um I have never been so like I have I hate that fight. I can't even watch it back. It makes me cringe from within. I am so Disgusted by the performance and I didn't do better. I like I watch that back and I know I'm better than that And I think I'm so addicted to being perfect that when I watch that back and I can see that It was far from perfect. It kills me from the inside. So, you know, I had that fight on the Saturday and I Wanted to be back in on the gym on the Monday like Like working out and trying to better myself and be a better fighter because Looking back at that when people come to me that good job. You did really great I'm like that was one of the worst performances. I have ever seen like I have been so Like scathing. I think that's the right word of that performance I Water-fired. I hate it. I hate it. But you won every round, did you not? I won every round unanimously, but I didn't look like I could fight and all my Months training and everything like that. Like it didn't show And for me like I wanted people I really really wanted people because I love it so much to be like Hey, like Elbrook's a really good fighter and I just think Um, I didn't get that response with it killed me from within. So how was the response after that? Um, I mean, it's been great. It's been good. Like that bush just followers for only funds I yeah, I had a really good month that month But that wasn't the reason I did it like I always like to challenge and I always like to test um Myself So, you know boxing is one of those things that I can challenge myself because I get comfortable And I get like a plateau that I always want to exceed Um and excel and I think also having that like healthy lifestyle Um is addictive for me as well because I feel good My mental health's better because I'm training I'm eating while I'm focusing on myself Um, and when you're in camp, you're not bothered about that party on saturday because you're thinking How would you feel monday? So you're very driven and you're very focused So I think it's definitely made me become a better version of myself Yeah, I seem you're doing the training that didn't make because when you exercise like That's the natural chemicals. It's a feel-good factor. Like did you feel your life was a little easier and more content when you're going through A lot pushing yourself through extreme like sparring is fucking scary So when you do that, you feel as if you've accomplished accomplished something and the buzz lasts a little longer Like did you feel more content when you were going through training? Do the first few weeks will absolutely help because you've got to just go some random OF star from the street into the gym. I've been like boxer. I was unfair I wasn't conditioned to it So the first few weeks are going to be hard when my body's adjusting to Eating healthy exercise in the amount I did I even got like sick because I think I was just pushing my body so far to the limits that um It was just, you know, starting a wear down. Um, but after that Yeah, the the effect that exercise can have on your mental health And I think that that's why it's really changed my view and do you like not drinking being healthy You know focusing on yourself and how you treat your body and how you view life, I think Where do you go forward for the future? They're still young. Do you know what I mean? But yeah more fights coming up. Uh, hadn't america. What's the plans? Yeah, hopefully if I um in november November, but it's just finding the right opponent and everything like that. Um So I think there's a few people in mind. There's one person that I really want to fight tana Mojo, but we will see um Yeah, it's a lot easier for guys to find fights because I think guys are naturally masquerading. I'm like, you know I want to fight everyone. Uh, whereas finding a woman fighter is going to be, you know, I think it's becoming more popular though I think people are seeing the effects and the buzz it has. It's such a good feeling that Every man thinks they can fight. I don't know about women, but every man thinks they can fight Like as soon as you put them under it put a set of gloves on their asses go Yeah, you realize what you're made of like not to quit not to pull out like and you just keep going like Yeah, like for 24 and have your head screwed on and seeing the vision but being very open about your struggles as well like Like moving forward when you've got all these plans like how do you how you want to balance that? DC yourself becoming more content or do you just feel as if it'll be more pressure in the future? Because the bigger you're going to go Um, you know, it's hard until I get um to that hurdle I think the work balance I have right now is doable. I don't get me wrong Like I have to cancel plans with my friends regularly like I have to make sacrifice But I'm not to the point yet where I'm going to explode because I still can have a holiday here If I need it after camp or anything like that. Um But Is what I have to give and what I have to do to become the person I want to be So if it means working harder and doing more than absolutely I'll be up for it because to me That's just one step into being Where I've like My vision of who I want to be what about America How where do you go from there if you get in America? It's 350 million people. Yeah, there's levels Compared to the UK like if you get visions for America I have thought about moving to LA. Um, and I probably would have would have um before the boxing But now I'm very content within my gym. I love ebony Mark Johnny that I wouldn't want to be like, yeah, let's start boxing and then be like move from like like such a good camp and Team to go to America. So for me, it makes sense for me to be here right now But I can still go and work do my bits in America work with people Um collapse and everything like that whilst being here. So Whether I'll end up in America one day. We'll see but for right now, um, I can still do what I'm doing and grow whilst being Like based here. Yeah Listen for coming on a day and telling your story babe, but I appreciate it and um, but for anybody that's maybe sitting And I've got a struggle just now. What advice would you give for them? I would say stick To your guns and believe in yourself And if you want to do something do it and I think that if you have that small business You want to do pursue it because I always believe that if you even earn less money being self-employed Um, you will be more happy genuinely than working for someone else for say, I don't mean like a massive gap Then obviously not and like like a wage difference But you know if you have that opportunity for work for yourself do it because I think that's definitely made my life December also like pigeon polled For your social media links your only fans. How can people get in contact with you? Yeah, any fans is albert qk twitter is albert qk instagram is the dumbledong And my tiktoks also the dumbledong Not that all these men don't know they all these perverts don't know it's watching this any way you're like But listen ill I wish you all the best for the future No, you're gonna be percing great energy and I genuinely mean you all the best for the future, babe And you my little workaholic power