 Why 254. Imagine. Welcome to the Pawtog Show with me Dominikit. Another one is this nice to have you here and I have my great audience from Nibs. Can I hear some noise? Napala njuma kuna others. Oh the University of Nairobi makes some noise. Yes you make some noise then. Zasa you're not making. Alright so today we are going to be speaking. Actually my audience and the guests are one and the same and I've got at Africa Kenya I've got today in Jerry performing here on the set. It's going to be a great show so you don't want to miss this. And remember so today's conversation is about media and me. How does media affect you and what are the opportunities in media? How can media make the world better? And how can sometimes media make the world not a very good place in what are the things that we can see in media that can lie to us? So we're going to be speaking about all that. So I want you to be part of this conversation and how you're going to do that is going to social media places Y254, Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And there you'll find a post especially on Facebook and that post is going to be talking about. It's going to be sharing with you about the topic of today and I want you to comment there and I'm going to be reading your comments in a short while. So please make sure that you go to that place called Facebook if you know the place go to it and then post in there. So let's start with some music from Jerry and At Afrika Band. Jerry, Abel Yako. What's her name? Nima kumis. Nima kumis? I'm here. I'm here. You're here. Nima kumis? No. With the two gentlemen there man it's good to see you once again. What's the first one? Inchi ya kitu kidogo or Rekweina. Inchi ya kitu kidogo. Yes. Iha ya kenya tumeri. You still go up or say. Eh. Go for it. Alright. alisema hakuna chabure huwam samotumoutasiri kinyume hatashule kuingizamto to lazimauto emchoto haki kwaialpucha cehmshtaki wa nivemshtaki utadiri umeku wa usahidi to arudisha jamuhuri etu nyuma jamani ni inchi ukita kachai inchi ya kitukido mashitiza usom marikiti miyako namiezi bilapet wa toto chi ya kitukidogo ninchia watua dogo and we don't want Kenya to be a country of watua dogo amazing performance by Injeri and Atafrika Band they have been here before they have been part of the show Atafrika Band is actually in fact part of the part of the show and it's nice to have them back and she'll be performing some more pieces you know as i mentioned today we're talking about media and sometimes media and we are part of the medias why 254 sometimes media has been accused even here in Kenya of trying to push some values that are again sometimes the values of a culture like let's say homosexual activity and gay unions and whatever and pushing even abortion case and other values that people don't feel they are part of the culture of a nation and culture of a people but at the same time media can be a place where people can be educated and they can learn and you you can know about what's happening in any corner of the world by just clicking a button now the question you're asking is how has media affected you is media a positive force in the in the society today that's actually the question do you think media is positive overall is it positive overall for a culture for a society so go to our facebook page go to social media instagram twitter and facebook and post in there you're going to find a post in there and you're going to ask that question do you think media is a a force for good is it an overall positive thing for the society for a country today and we're going to be having this conversation with optimal media production optimal media youth group yes optimal media production and there is a group of youth from nibsa university college right ah yes yeah so it's universal it's university right let's go with university all right so there's a university and we are going to be having that conversation and before we start off the conversation with my first two guests from out of media youth group let me take it back to njeri and uh at africa to for another song for us what what song now all right i got you i got you even as the media to jangalia bukenya to kona disaster na tumboa meshika tama ali tuwa takama angali kijana te yange kuwa mamo yange kuwa sawa divya wa libo panga maulana deni mulizo wa taba rotu na lipa na tuka kopa zingine china tuka denga reli piya bara bara zilizo baki wa tuwa kasanya so tuji yangali tuka paba yalokuli kojana sikiyo laku fahali sikidawa tuka kuatwita tunaji bizana tuji yangali tuka paba yalokuli kojana tisi poziba ufa to tajenga guza tu sakeze tutungali vijana so i want you to help me you repeat exactly what i say all right so tuji yangali tuji yangali nga hendu mwaza sa Women nga kwa tuji yangali tuka paba yalokuli kojana Sikiyo lakufahali sikidawa Tuko kwa tweeta tumna tibizana Tu tiyangali Tuko baba ya lukuli kodana Tusi poziba ufa tuta jengakuta Tusa keze tu tumgalivi jana Thank you Sikiyo Repida statement Sikiyo Tusa haali sikidawa Aha, nai yungine? Tungale se tu Tusa keze Shoa Hei Tzili na kuwaza kikida go Welkom So I've got Alex And I've got Asunta I got that right I got Kimani at Wakgari Very good I have to be proud of who we are So there is Kimani There is Wakgari and there is Kamao So are we good? Perfect So now, optima Optima youth group right? Tell me about that Let me start with the lady Okay, I'll start first by introducing myself. I'm Masunta Wangare. Ya, my introduction was not enough. No, you need to introduce yourself again and again. Okay, I'm Masunta Wangare. I'm a journalism student at Names Technical College. And a member of the Optima Media Group that is in the house tonight. Yes. But I didn't even make some noise. Is this it? Really? Too late. But it's still fine. Okay, so I'll tell you something about Optima. Actually, Optima started as an idea. We came up with an idea. We joined as great minds of six people. We came up with an idea that was back in last year, that was December 2018. And we decided that... When you were saying it was back, I was expecting it to be like 2010, you know? So we came up with the idea back last year, 2018. And we said that 2019 we're going to make a change. We're going to make a change to the youth. And we're going to motivate other youth who are like us. So what did you... Okay, Khimani. Ya. You want to introduce yourself also? Absolutely. Ya, go for it. Go for it, then I'll ask my question. My name is Alex Khimani. And I'm a student at Names Technical College. I'm pursuing journalism and media. And I'm at my second year. Okay, excellent. My question is that... She said that to motivate young people, that's the main gist of why you founded the optimal media. Is it that you observe in young people and you say, you know what, we need to do something? Back in our school, we have studies where we go and do shows. And this thing that usually used to link in my mind that most people are not serious when it comes to doing their practicals and doing other stuff related to journalism. So we sat down and think it's good as we know we show them that it's good to do what they are supposed to do. And by starting a group, maybe they see that we are serious and we are doing what is right. So by saying that we started this group with the name of motivating the youth, actually it's to set an example to them so that they may look at us. I mean they see something good in us so that they aim and do an example. That's the best way to motivate someone. You set the pace by your own personal example and say I want to be someone like Alex, I want to be someone the way asunta is. That's the best way to motivate somebody. So what are the other challenges that you find in the settings, in the university settings and maybe in your opinion where you feel sometimes young people need some sort of motivation and that's what optimizes also feelings. Is there any other kind of motivation that you are trying to fill? We also motivate the society as a general because whatever we do in optima we are not just a production team but we go to the society and at least there are some initiatives that we do as giving back to the society. You know we are journalists and just like other reporters do you go get information but the way we do that the society is going to look and say visit the team that every youth should look up to. So you go out there and do some good works? Yeah, visit for example you go to children's home, visit them, visit the aged. Now just as you mentioned a good friend of mine said I should ask you this question and I'm going to ask the question. People feel that when you go to do charitable works and you go to do some good works for other people you should not carry a camera with you. Don't let the right hand know what the left hand is doing. There is a maxim. But then the others would say there are so many bad news in the media today. Why not share when I do something good? Kamani, what's your take? Absolutely. About carrying a camera I think it's a good thing. One, to keep a history of what you are doing. We can go to do charity work but when somebody asks us what have you been doing? We don't have a proof of what you have been doing. So one thing is when somebody go to the YouTube channel or YouTube channel then you watch all those stuff that we have posted there. You will be motivated and say these people are doing a good job. Fanya kwa jimzuri? Yeah, yeah. I have heard that by the Dominic and my take is this it's good, keep history of what you are doing so that the generation that is coming will see what you are doing and they aim to do the same. What do you think? You agree with him? Yeah, I agree with him for me. Because I think you know you are going to go convince someone that once you do this the society is going to look up to you and then you have nothing to show. You ask them, we didn't carry cameras with us. We have nothing. There is no way they are going to follow your steps but once you show them a small clip a picture they are going to say that this is true. It's happening and it's real. Now, I mean the one thing that impress me about optimizing this is the fact that even though you are a media all your media students you are very much involved in charitable works and going out and doing something good to the society the pictures that you sent me were of you doing charitable works and cooking chapatis and reaching out to the less fortunate. I mean I like those pictures. I don't know if actually we can have those pictures on the screen it would have been great to see those pictures but that for me was really beautiful. Thank you. Overall, what is the difference that you want Optima to make? What difference do you want overall? Other than okay charity is good other than motivating what is do you have like okay it's only last year 2018 when you started this but what is the long-term goal now therefore right? You're going to graduate you're going to get out of nibs so what happens when you're out? Okay actually we look that in the near future we're going to have an Optima foundation these we are by you know we are young journalists who are growing and it will reach a point where we shall all be professionals you have your money you have my money he has his money and another person has the money and so we are dreaming of having this we are going to have and establish this foundation that is going to be like you go to the field you find this person who really needs your help you know like we journalists okay the current journalist what they do you go cover a story and then you leave it at that once everyone has had a booty to leave it at that but what we want our foundation to do is that you go find someone who is going through something you cover the story you go back to the media house but you go back there again and make sure that maybe that person that old grandmother who is suffering in the village has at least gotten whatever she wanted for example you cover the story and say maybe she was seeking for justice you cover the story you left it at there so what we aim at is going back there and making sure that she got what she wanted I mean that's I like that so much because many media and journalists we just go to a place where maybe there is war report about the war when it's all big news but then what happens after that after some time you move to a new story and the old story people continue maybe suffering about something but it's never there's no support so I would say kudos to that I appreciate that I think we call that sensationalism I think in media did I get the word thank you get up man get up alright so now my question that I have asked our viewers to share do you think let's start with you Kimani that media first of all is a force for good and when I'm talking about media I'm talking about technology all of it I'm talking about the broad side I'm not just talking about TV so on TV and on your laptop and on YouTube you're going to see very many things that can teach you to be better I learnt guitar mostly by actually watching on YouTube so you can learn something but under the hand there are things that can lead you to addiction you can learn betting there there's pornography there there's a variety there's illuminati there for real so there are very huge negatives by media today now do you think that media is still something that we should be should it be something we should be scared of or is that a good thing what's your take, Kimani okay Kimani wa matagi actually that's how anyway okay so my take and my opinion is this media it has been there and is continuing to be there so for me I can say there's no way we can do without the media for example Kusinda the way communication was before this time communication was so tough in such a way my grandmother used to tell me that if you want to communicate to someone for example at Roiro now it can take a lot of days to send a poster but now it's just a two minute communication even not two minutes just in a second so there is faster communication yes there is faster communication another thing is the education for example as we are studying in colleges example my practicals most of my practicals I do them through YouTube yes I learn a lot of editing through YouTube for example these things called greenskins for those who are doing journalism you know you change the background I didn't know that but I have learned through YouTube so for me media is good education communication it has make it so efficient on the other side on the other side there is a really dark place about me absolutely if something is positive actually there is also some negatives behind so about one thing and I think I will share it as my personal experience this thing called addiction for example I was addicted to these games they are called what these certain games where you play and bet in the social media and they tell you that you know you do some betting and you will get some money and there will be time as you continue to bet to bet now someone is telling me what's the name? I don't know so I used to bet so much and I was hoping one day I remember my dad one day he gave me 10,000 and I placed 5,000 and what I was told the information that I get through a text that I wait and with time I'm going to get 5,000 so I was counting that I'll be having 15,000 15,000 but to make the matters worse I lost the 5,000 and I was still addicted to continue to play and try to try so you put the other 5,000 I put the other 5,000 because we do not school fees but this is a true story and from that point I can say this is a lot of addiction not only about betting but this is also sex sexual immorality in the media what do we do? we close down the media no no the media should not be close when you close the media there is so much so what I'll say change that with you I cannot tell you to watch pornography and whereas I know when you move out from here go and watch what I'm not seeing here so it starts from you consider the things which are right for you to watch and the things which are not sure meh, samkala kwa na kukimani call it call it for the 10,000 we go and go for a break what do you take on the same? I think the media is actually good and I think there is so much bad that has come from the media because there are some issues that you find looking at your friends at the university what are some of the negative effects? there is one thing that you find someone is not attending classes they are on social media and there is also this case maybe someone has posted something on Facebook that someone died and that person is still alive so killing someone so much like you find that your friend died you've not seen her maybe for 2 months you hear that she died but it's all lies and then you meet at habayo so you are not in my shoes that's terrible so what's your take though what's the way forward, what's your suggestion? what's your hope there's hope for the media but some sites should be censored so what you're saying is censored some media sites that's what you say would that be against media freedom? so ok not actually every site but some sites like which ones? for example let me say ok Facebook no let me say ok there are some things that once they are given to the people for example they use Facebook because I get news there for example there are certain groups you read but you find that there is a group maybe on Facebook that she has poor news absolutely fake news and so you wonder what's the need of this existence of this group ok I hear you Alex Asunta make some noise thank you so much Alex and Asunta for making time to be on the show for the first segment you've been amazing brilliant so we're going to take a short break right now I'm going to give it back to Njeri and Atafrika Kenya Band and as we go for a break remember what I mentioned to you go to a Facebook page and there is a post about the conversation that's happening right now be part of the conversation by commenting and I'm going to be reading out your comments in the next section but for now we take a break and we're going to have new guests still from Optima Media Youth Group but now Njeri and Atafrika let's go ok so guys you know this song so kijana masiku yazi di ba delika kijana atafrika media so masu kijana masiku yazi di ba delika kijana wazuri wazuri wazidi kuzaliwa na dunia na yo yazi di wazuri wazidi kuzaliwa na dunia na yo yazi di ba delika kijana let me say like this kijana masiku yazi di ba delika kijana soma soma soma kijana masiku yazi di ba delika kijana kijana soma soma soma kijana masiku yazi di ba delika kijana alright let's go and so Linus so guys we are promising to to read nice sites in the up hello we are promising to read nice sites nice websites and not to be a scam bando websites you are telling them no so just put your hand with me here put your hand with me here and be a neighbor soma dance soma dance and be a jirani soma dance so unani ambia say oh you identify number four sour sour unani jibu hivi and one and two and three so I will go like this I am two na fanya hivi na semang websites nbaya fake news mambo maya kwa news bato mambo mazuri niyo soma soma soma soma zema soma soma tendo neighbor soma soma soma tena soma soma ayafungua tena tena fake websites fake news yo yo mambo mba bato mambo zuri kwa media niyo soma soma soma soma soma wei soma soma soma soma wei soma soma soma wei let's sing the chorus I'm guiding Ishaia TV do ya billet utanga masiku ya zidiba delika kijana soma soma soma soma soma soma soma kijana masiku ya zidiba delika kijana websites nbaya bato mambo pwa unafanya niyo soma soma soma soma soma soma soma soma bad news no watu kwa na onlen west bad story unafanya niyo soma sobama second segment of the power talk show with me Dominic and we are continuing the conversation we about social media media and me so right now I'm told we need to take a short break and then we'll be back in a bit tutarudi tutarudi badaya mudam come sorry welcome back to the power talk show with me Dominic it's great to have you back we continue this conversation I have two I have two guests I've got some comments some on the screen and some here I can see so I'm going to read them out Samiwa Jogona Samiwa Jogona Una Optima Ikoju I don't know what una Ultima Ikoju big up madame Evelyn Kidanze and Mr. Rogers Meroka Ultima Patrons thank you so much Samiwa Jogona and then we have Winnie Winrose I'm Trisambogwa from Nib say hi to madame Evelyn Kidanze head of department journalism Nib she's a lady of substance and to Mr. Rogers Meroka they are apart from Ultima is going far thank you so much Winnie Winrose Lilian Muli brilliant conversation the media is a powerful tool for those who really want to transform their lives and those of others positively but against but again a beast that is feasting on our youth wow huge social media intelligence is crucial to the youth and we should take the responsibility to educate each other and create platforms that empower and create opportunities to improve ourselves and the talents we possess as far as the Nibs guys are concerned you are doing a noble work kip on it the world needs more of you thank you so much Lilian Muli then kip lagat japan jam lageng yaw yasil kip lagat japan jenlegem engineer I have no idea from Acero village Kabisa Agha watching live kama kawa nikiwa na mjadoro shams wow wakapsa beti nanda loot Winnie thank you so much kip lagat I have not understood half of your MC Kawangoi oh the show is nice and so educative MC Kawangoi kawa goi thank you very much then we've got Magda Newde I'm loving the show Optima Media group you are going far keep up the spirit big up to the great youth the show is lit Dominic Magda thank you and then we have original gangsta Lukavilo logged from 23 Ongemi Niko Ndani Niko In in wacha tu ni kumbe wo jukiweka ii so welcome back to the conversation I'm having two guests here thank you so much for those comments keep them coming I'm going to read them out as we continue with the show so go to a Facebook on that post there make your comments about what you think about the media I can see more posts coming and I'm going to be reading them out now back at you Karibunisana I introduce the other guys Niko introduce kwa rohosafi this one is just Chinya Magya I introduce them honest still then they introduce themselves here story is funny Tena go for it start thank you so much Dominic thank you for coming to the show I'm Stacey Wanjoike from Nibs Technical College I'm a member of the Optima Media Group and I'm honoured to be here thank you Dominic I'm John Nanna from Nibs Technical College a student pursuing journalism in mass communication we are very glad to be here thank you welcome let's continue the conversation asking whether media is a positive thing or a negative thing and you are students of media and I'll let you say media is a good thing but it's also a beast that is feasting on our youth I think it's to recommend is it a beast Stacey right yes Stacey go for it media is a beast and it can also be positive in some ways a good beast thank you and one of the reasons is because hold the mic closer for example media can be a beast in that it can really demoralise a youth as a young person for example you see nowadays young girls and boys they just want to look fit they want to look nice and you see instead of the media the social media, the pyramid let them engage in if you want to lose your weight go do exercise you see it's telling you go drink hubs or go drink these tea bags so that you can reduce it you can and for the guys there is this oil that you actually apply so that you can have muscles you see it's the same media it's the same media which is actually misleading if it is it is supposed to be positive tell the youth know you have to exercise to keep fit so there is a duck bag as you saw it's a beast on one side now, bus what she is saying is it the problem of the media or the individual who goes to search for those things according to my perspective the problem is that we the individuals for example in little sense they are to look for something that is useful in the media not much concentrate on the side that is not useful more so if you go to the media and you see maybe a website or maybe a post something that is not good and you have maybe more values in the likes maybe you will not be tempted to do that but it start with you as an individual maybe you have personal integrity at personal level so that maybe you control yourself but if you not control yourself you will be bringing the media unlike we bringing ourselves because I am sure sorry to cut you that it's okay those people maybe can't tell you maybe me if I go into the media I can't visit to the website there are a lot of that are not useful they will just directly go to those are useful that's good Stacey you are pursuing journalism just like your colleagues here but now the question is can I tell you look in a few years people will not be watching TV and even a majority of young people today are already on social media that's where they get their news is there a hope for TV host like me or journalists pursuing these things okay personally journalism will still be pursued you know even though people go to the social media to go and get information get news updates and all that by the end of the day they go back to citizen TV KBC TV so that they can get the real information so as much as we are mawzati okay say those are the TVs okay the rest of the media station yes this is the only TV that exists in Kenya why 254 and the rest okay as much as people want to get news updates and they want to get fast information they want to know a lot by the end of the day they will just go back and sit at their seats and watch the 7pm news because they still trust the media that what they actually watch in the media or even in KBC or Y254 and the rest you can actually get accurate information someone might argue Stacey watching this news is the older generation young people are not going to be I want to watch the 7pm news 7pm or 9pm news they are not going to watch they are not aiming for that during that time they may be trying to catch up with Game of Thrones that is their news so those people are trying to catch up the news are not really the young people what do you think the generation of right now it solo is about fun yes you are not thinking about the future we are the leaders of tomorrow of today tomorrow never comes oh baby hold the mic so you are really being misled because they think it solo is about having fun going to Instagram and posting all about yourself and you really know I know the media is trying to impact the youth by employing young people in terms and may support or what do you say John John the Baptist what I can say on that issue you have said the way people may be will turn to maybe other media than like me let me let John as you continue explaining do you think a large percentage of your close friends watch the 9pm news or they are not really interested I don't think so but you are still pursuing journalism to tell people news and they don't want to watch I can tell you nowadays we are living in a world of dynamism things are keeping on changing you can see from the mainstream media and the rights we are also opening pages in social media and the rights to try to reach out to these youths these people who are much lost in the media sorry to say so who focus their attention in the media you can see like maybe in Y254 you do post things in the social media to try to reach out so maybe our youth she have said we are focusing on fun and things then stuffs in the right so that's why we walked through social media and the rights we will not wait for the 1pm news more so like if 1pm news 1pm news and you are there maybe for something like that you tune into social media maybe the media guys have posted something so there is no essence of you waiting for 1pm news because of the way the world is changing so you still feel there is a bit of use bit of use final question because we are running out of time so there are many lies on social media especially around sex around fame around wealth around the way people dress around what is real and what is fake and so many are important even your friends tend to think that that is a life so you watch some Kim Kardashian let's say you watch some some fellow in the US and you think wow that is a life I want to be a socialite okay first of all I have to say this you know the youth are confusing between normal life and life behind the scenes for example Kim Kardashian and the rest are gaining money with what they do whatever they do whatever they sing how they expose themselves they get a lot of money and likes but what the youth are not understanding these people this is the occupation you know by the end of the day even when you sit down if you want to save to be like this person you're not helping yourself you have to differentiate that this person you're watching and you want to become like them that is not real whatever you're watching on screens is about money and it's the occupation and for you you just have to go back to your normal life and live it so what you're saying is young people need to know the difference between the fantasies that's presented on social media and what is actually real John Funga story maybe to support on that I can say much that is done behind the cameras after maybe a production is done or something like that because we have sophisticated computer program with the likes which are maybe changing things that are not normal you change something so youth should know that like posting maybe being the likes people changing background and the likes and the stuffs there is much from what you see John if you post a picture you get two likes and one of them is yours then you put a filter you put a filter you add a few touches here and there you remove what we see your three cubes you get 52 likes and yours is not that what are you going to do next time so next time you still do the same case but to our youth today be original and me I will say I am always happy if I get maybe likes 20 likes of something that is natural you be natural you but keeping prakjarizing something that is not in the real sense Pleasure what youth should know that you post the real you and the issue of peer pressure those many influence situation like I see my friends here maybe have some likes and whatever don't have to discuss everyone is unique on your way we are created differently Hallelujah you have to be different from others accept yourself and all will be well John says now we are climbing the both of you we are climbing the both of you so that's unfortunately our time has run out but you guys have been awesome and great but we are not yet finished we are actually taking a short break and when we come back we are going to have a small we are going to have a game we are going to play a small game because today we are having fun with Optima Media Group and there is also some of the audience from the University of Nairobi but today we are celebrating Optima Media Youth Group so we are going to take a short break and when we come back yes thank you so much for watching the show and before finish up we are going to play a game here called Face the Biscuit and this is what I am going to do they are going to lean back like that and I am going to put the biscuit right there and what they have to do is eat the biscuit simply they have to eat the biscuit so without touching it they will try to roll it over into the amount I will tell you when to start ladies and gentlemen first of all we wish you a very very good night thank you for being part of the show thank you to NIBs, Njeri and the band at Africa Band thank you for you viewers for watching and my guest particularly those who are on the set with me from NIBs so make some noise people thank you so much do have yourself a good night God bless you and see you next time but don't go before we finish this show ok so let's go let's go play some music let's go don't shake don't touch hands down hands down muscles where is he what is happening here what is happening let's go this one is not moving let's go 20 let's go hey hi hi Andy