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For those on the phone, you can press star 9 to do so or state your name if you are unmuted and wait to speak until the chair has recognized you. Once the chair has recognized someone to participate, please make sure to provide your full name and address for the record. During the meeting, if necessary, in the event the public is unable to access this meeting, it will be continued to a time and place certain and I'll now hand it back over to the chair. At this point, no one has anything to add. Do I hear a motion to approve the agenda? So moved. I'll second it. All in favor of the agenda, speak your names. Ben. Steve. Martha. The agenda is approved. Before we ask for the applicant, do you have the criteria sheets? Great. Thank you. We can go to the first application for 144 Elm Street Resurrection Baptist Church applicant. Pete. Toreski. Are they online? They're online. Yes. Okay. There's a way to make them appear up there. There you go. Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay. Yes, we're here. Go ahead and describe your sign for us. Do you guys have a copy of this? Yes. Okay. So we're looking at replacing the old sign. It has basically a outline of the steeple with the name of the church. And that's what we're looking at wanting to go with. We have two size options. One was 40 by 44. The other was 40 by 36. We noticed some of the other signs in the area were smaller. So we kind of threw in a second option. What is the size of the sign that's existing now? The sign that's out there right now is 50 inches by 38. So it's much bigger than what we have here. So you're actually getting to be smaller. Yes. And we were also waiting until we actually had the sign in hand to see if we would go back with two posts or just one post and an arm. Are you anticipating the same location? Yes. If you do, if you did one post with an arm, there probably would need to be some reinforcement for the arm, depending on the weight of the sign. Yes. Yes. That's why I was waiting to get the sign on hand. That would be my option to go with one post and an arm and maybe do a corner bracket or maybe even a small cable to hold the weight of the arm. Is one post your preference? Is that what you're? I think it would look cleaner. If we can do that, I think it would look better. So you would use the same size post that's there now or would you? Yes. Use the heavier post. I would probably use the same size that's there now. Again, if you did that with a single arm, you probably would want some kind of a steel angle or brace to hold, to support the horizontal arm. Yes. I was thinking of maybe a decorative angle iron for the corner to help support it. Okay. Do you have a preference for the option one or option two? We were looking at option one. The white looked a lot better than the powder blue. It seems much more readable. Yes, it is. I noticed the sign you have now as a perimeter. Yes. Pinstripe around it, which outlines the sign very nicely. We could give you the option of adding a pinstripe around either option one or two, if you like. It just dresses it out nicely, but again, that would be your option. Yeah. And that was something we thought about. We actually held back a couple of inches on the edge of the sign, thinking that we may want to do that. Okay. Then that could be an option available to you. Does anyone have any comments, questions, suggestions? Okay. I can go down through. Do you have an actual color chip for the blue, the dark blue? No. No. It would be the colors that are right there, print it. It looks like it matches the colors, the slash underneath under option one, the slash underneath the steeple. Looks like it matches the color that's on your sign now, your existing sign, and also the front doors of the church. And the roof. And the roof. Okay. I can go down through the criteria, sheep for signs, the size, location, design, color, texture, lighting, and material of all exterior signs within the design review. Overlink district shall be compatible with the building, buildings and structures of the site and surrounding properties. That's acceptable. Sign design number seven, sign design color and typography shall respect historic precedence where appropriate and shall be the appropriate scale for existing and new buildings. That's acceptable. Sign support structure shall be compatible with the building architecture and must not be overly complex or dominant in and of themselves acceptable. And then for the two options for you, the sign support can be double post, which is existing or single post. Yes. Again, that's your option. Sign number two, option to include a parameter pinstripe, and I'll just indicate obviously a blue pinstripe. Okay. All in favor of the application with those two options, speak your name. Ben. Martha. And Steve. So the sign is approved. Oh, thank you. Well, nothing in favor. You want to indicate about signing that, right? Yeah. So Meredith has been probably the one working with you and she's out sick tonight. So usually what would happen is Meredith would take this back in the morning, scan it and send it off and have you sign it and then scan it and send it back or stop by the office and sign it to accept the decision. Okay. She's probably not going to be in again tomorrow. So I'm not sure the timing, but we'll try to get that out to you as soon as we can. And then the permit will follow shortly thereafter. Okay. That sounds wonderful. All right. Well, thank you guys so much. I appreciate you. Well, thank you for coming to the meeting remotely. And good luck with your project. Thank you. Have a good evening. Thank you. We can go to the second applicant at the evening for 89 main street owner Doug Nettie applicant, narrow gold adornment. For the new projecting side. And introduce yourself. M-I-C-H-A-E-O. Correct. Let's follow your last name. M-U-L-C-A-H-Y. And describe your sign. Well, we are here pre COVID for a sign permit that you approve with our business name. That was a vertical sign. And then everything was put on pause during shut down and such and gave us time to reexamine what we wanted with our sign. We've decided now instead to just go with a circular sign that's just our logo. As opposed to a vertical word. Both projecting to the same spot on the building. So it's a matte black metal sign that is all one piece prefabricated. And then the final detail of our logo. It seems a yellow gold color in set into the. The sign. This matches the logo that we have in gold leaf on our door. And also the ones that are up at the front of the building at 89 main street. Where La Brioche above where La Brioche was. Our main entrance is on East state street across from the center spring and the living. So it's farther down the building. This image is basically representing you're going to. Fasten it through that sign band in my green. Right. Correct. Yes. And we're going to sign band where there is. Hardware and stuff that builder from the previous. Village. There is lighting outlets there, but we decided to not use lighting. Great. I think it's a great idea to have a son. Yes, we do too. Our addresses on main street, but our main entrance being when we're on East state street creates a lot of confusion for people. And so we just want a simple logo that projects out. That is people come around the corner. They can spot down that long brick wall where our door might be approximate. Is the lighting still there? That is a current picture. The, the. Lighting boxes are still there, but we're, we don't currently have an intention of using the lighting on the main street. So we don't have an intention of using the lighting. We like the option to. Put some. Minimum spots on there. Sure. If we could include the option, I guess in the, in the sign approval, though, that would be good. We did include them in our original sign that we met here. And you guys approved those. It was a black. Small spot on each side. And just for making the project. It's easy to include as an option. You could either do like this now, or you could do like a miniature spot from that location. Right. Just shine down on. On their logo. Right. Which would light up. In case at the end of December, when it dark at three 30. Correct. Yeah. They keep your sign. Yeah. Yeah, we'll take that as an option. That's. Okay. Anybody have. Okay with that. Okay. Any other comments, questions or suggestions? Okay. I'll read down through the criteria sheet is on this one as well. Size, location, design, color, texture, lighting and material of all exterior signs within the design review. Overly district should be compatible with the building and structures of the site and surrounding properties. And the building should be compatible with the building. Where appropriate. Signing shall respect the original sign placement and sign bands and stark structures. The sign ban is acceptable. If a building has multiple tenants. So it shall be consistency and placement and size among all signs. Sign ban is where most everything was building this place. Acceptable. It is recommended that sign placement be centered over building structure. Signness, character defining materials in the building. Exceptible. Sign, design, color and typography shall respect historic. Precedence for appropriate and shall be of the appropriate scale for existing. And new buildings acceptable. Sign support structures shall be compatible with the building architecture. Must not be overly complex or dominant. And again, the option is the existing electrical basis can be used for either small, black, blue snake, lake fixtures, or miniature spot lights for signing the national. All in favor, speak your names. Ben. Martha, I'm a yes. And Steve. So three in favor. If you like, you can come up and sign the criteria sheet right below mine. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for coming back to the approval. Good luck to your project. Thanks. And looking at the minutes. We really can't do anything under December 5th, because again, we only have to two people. I'm guessing. One of these days, the three people that were there. Eric, Martha and Ben to all year together. Is anybody had a chance to look at the February 6th. Do you have any questions or suggestions? I thought you did. I think it's fine the way it is. Okay. And so I moved to the second all in favor of the February 6th minutes. Speak your names. Martha. And Steve. So February 6th is approved. And again, somebody already wrote post on that. So I'm going to leave that. No, they shouldn't have that. And for the next meeting, maybe. And does anyone have any other business? I was just going to say, I know the design review guidelines. The only update I think. Meredith was going to give was that the council did. Have the hearing on approving them and they did approve them. So they are officially the design guidelines now. If anyone wants to use them in a meeting or.