 You're welcome back to the breakfast on PlusCV Africa. It's now time for Off the Press and I guess Mr. Crisland joins us now. Good morning sir, thanks for being here. Thank you very much for having a good party. All right, let's begin this morning with a daily independent newspaper. The headline reads Banks Boards Jittery as CBN moves to clamp down on insider abuse. Analysts ask APIS Bank to publish street stress tests on banks, once DMBs to improve and corporate governance disclosure. Above the headline on the daily independence, shut on site against Ibo Yute's call for another genocide and that's according to Orhanizind Ibo. NEF spokesman says Buhari should be impitched if he can't secure us. Below the headline on the daily independence, troops eliminate top bandits commanders, 48 others. FG considers 223 building component firms for social housing projects. Abdul Salami Ibo Bokhar denies link with bandits and tourists. COVID-19, FG reintroduces restriction on mass gathering. PDP demands AMHE Usman's sack over MPA's unremitted 165 billion Naira. Reps Minority Caucus asks EFCC to probe Hadiza Bala Usman. Peter will be alleged plot to link him with Southeast violence. And lastly, on the daily independence, Song Oulu gets Legations backing to tackle security challenges. All right, let's see what we can find on the nation. Newspapers this morning. The big one there says Southern Governors to take crucial decisions on insecurity. Delta to host Pali today. IG plans a synergy, rather with military. 11-man panel to probe NPA activities on that Bala Usman. Presidency confirms attempted raid on Gambari's house. 1,200 to benefit from quara interest-free loans. All right, it also says here, Diboye's son didn't die, but sleeping, says Wido. Don't understand that. Why COVID-19 restrictions are back, and that's from the Federal Government. Also on the nation this morning, Song Oulu gets full back into tackle security challenges. We can also find here. Wednesday and Thursday, of course, are holidays. That's the big ones on the nation. Newspapers this morning. On the punch newspaper, deadly COVID-19 variants. Experts warn as FG restricts gatherings, revives curfew, bans nightclubs and others. Government says worship centres shouldn't exceed 50% capacity, revives 12 midnight to 4am curfew. Learn from India's predicaments, virologist, advices Nigerians and Tamari backs federal government. Above the headline on the punch newspaper, Nigeria's fintech revenue to hit $543 million by 2022, and that's according to a report. Subsidy removal advice, wrong. Implementation, suicidal, says Nupeng. Presidency confirms attempted bogglary of Gambari's villa residence. Nigeria's economy is still fragile, despite exit in recession, Buhari's advices. Below the headline on the punch newspaper, our Mechi inaugurates panel to probe alleged NPA on rummated cash. iPob denies planned attack on Lagos. Police order probe. Cora floats 900 million naira, interest-free loans for 1,200 young entrepreneurs. Family kicks as murder suspect dies in police custody. Federal government declares Wednesday, Thursday holidays, and Nasrada predicts moon sighting. Minister leads delegation Sagana over Nigerian traders or deal. And we see pictures here, St Lagos's environmental special officers, units and tax wars at the Igomu on the bridge. And they're basically doing a three-day removal of illegal structures and vehicles there. That's the picture we're seeing there on the punch newspaper this morning. Alright, and now on the Nigerian Tribune. Security breach at Buhari's Chief of Staff, Aso Rock Residence. Presidency confirms burglars made foolish attempt. Arrested helicopter, ACF calls for full investigation, and the Salami denies any link with bandits. And also Buhari should be removed if he can't guarantee security. Baba Med, and that's a northern eldest forum, Spokesman. We're gonna be having a conversation with him this morning. COVID-19, security personnel to enforce use of face masks. It also says there, okay, all on public transport. Federal government reinstates restrictions on mass gatherings, event centers, nightclubs, and the likes. We can also find on the Tribune this morning, or your government promises to pay salaries and allowances of SAC, local government chairman, counselors. Another INEC office set ablaze. Also, gunmen abduct many in Katsina, Mosque, police rescue 30. Buhari moves to resolve Ghana-Nigeria trade conflicts, sends delegations. And also, a Mechi-Nogorets panel to probe policies and contracts done by HDISA since 2016. We can also see here NLC to ground Kaduna from May 16th over Worker's SAC. And Lagos Hold Security Summit issues 12-point resolution. That's most of the stories we're taking this morning. Mr. Chris Wando, good morning once again. Thanks for joining us. Thank you very much for having me. All right. I guess we can start from the tempted, like it's been described, or the boglary at Gambari's residence. Pretty embarrassing. What do you think? Very, very embarrassing for the Hoodlums or Amropas or whatever you call them to have found their way into Asorok. It's worrisome because Asorok is the seat of power. We are the president besides. And my first year of knowledge of Asorok is that we have about four gates into Asorok. So we are able to make their way into Asorok. And even with, apart from the gates, there are also about three or four levels of movement before you can get to the inner palace as I use it, of the villa. So the dead jump defense, which is impossible because that place is called the security appliances and all the rest of them. So that to me is it is a level of a security breach. And then to get as fast to the home of the chief of power to the president is as good as getting to the president. Because the chief of stars is the last point of command. And before they see the president, so I don't know how they were able to do it. And we had their cuts in the ads that are not true. So that's a very tough one. And that also shows that the level of insecurity in Asorok, the seat of power is not secured. Then you cannot imagine what's happened to the rest of us. So I think those in charge of security in Asorok should be questioned. Let me also bring in this. Yeah. Let me also bring in this quick angle to this. I'm just in a statement now from someone and it's asking, you know, is it important that we know if this happened with people from the outside or from insiders, because anyone who can get that level of access might have insiders that help them out. So should that be scary for the presidency? And should that also tell, you know, that there are people inside Asorok that cannot be trusted with president's security? Yes. I don't know if you know, you have the knowledge of Asorok as it's where my, I've been to Asorok several times. And also know that it's not just the seat of power that's in Asorok. There are several parameters in Asorok. I know that even EFCC used to be around there. There are some MBC, EFCC and some of those parameters were used to be in Asorok. But as I said, Asorok, there is Asorok and there is also Asorok. So there is other Asorok and the inside Asorok, because the presidential bill that you have to pass about four levels of security before you can get to the actual presidential. But within the Asorok also, I also know that some people that are not working in the presidency are living in Asorok. So I don't know, so whether it's an insiders job or people that came from outside, but we're not able to do that. We have hard access into Asorok, either as the people living there or people that came from outside. And whether they are able to enter Asorok is what is something. And that's why I said that the security actors within the villa should be regained and the investigation should be carried out thoroughly to be able to find out where this book came from. It could have been worse. I don't know what they had if they had other motives and they could have done a lot of damage in Asorok. Because what's the idea? You don't know what the person have. Suppose if the person have a propeller or if you understand what I mean, those high caliber hands and the rest of them can shoot into the villa and the rest of them. That in a sense is a serious security breach which should be investigated and should be carried out. But Gerva Sheva, just this one has dictated that treat if you are aware. He has dictated that treat, but he made that treat acknowledging that invasion. All right. Moving away from security matters to, well, still health security more specifically. On the punchline three, but there's a story here about the COVID-19 variant and the federal government, you know, imposing a curfew from 12 midnight to 4am and restricting movement, you know, banning nightclubs, you know, and other public gatherings in the country as well as, you know, cutting down the, you know, crowd to 50% of total capacity. But the thing here is that many Nigerians seem to have the impression that there's, you know, no more COVID-19 in Nigeria. You know, but with this new curfew now, it might gel to Nigeria back to reality, you know, in some ways. But do you think a curfew is enough to create that social distance to prevent the spread of COVID-19? Or do you think what Nigeria needs to prevent being in the situation where India is right now is a total lockdown? Mr. Wando, it seems to have lost you there. All right. I think we've lost sound from Chris Wando who would have to reconnect with him and continue this conversation. And good point, there's COVID only come out at night. Of course, or does it of course exist in the daytime also. I think, you know, there's maybe some way to tackle the, you know, the people going to nightclubs and having night events and things like that. But if there is already a ban on nightclubs and I don't know why there is a curfew, you know, and why there's restriction of movement to 4 a.m. There's people who've complained about flights leaving as early as 7 a.m., so people need to leave at 4 or leave early at 4 to get to the airport, you know, which I feel there's still enough time by 4 a.m. to get to the airport or whatnot. But the government will probably have to give a clearer picture of why there's a 4, a 12, a midnight to 4 a.m. curfew and what that is, you know, hoping to achieve. And there's all the other things, you know. So let's not have the conversation as, you know, the curfew is the only COVID-19 guideline that has been put in place. It's not just the curfew. There's also limiting movements. It's shut down of gyms and nightclubs and cinemas and the likes. There's also a reduced number of people in churches and the likes of 250 people. Chris, I want to welcome back. Thank you very much. So, but it's not just the curfew alone. Also the restriction. When it comes to gym, places, event centers have been shut down and the address is no more than 50. Those are part of the protocols they put in place. But for me, the most important thing is that how far have we gone with our vaccination because that seems to have totally stopped. And so many millions of Nigerians who are willing to get themselves vaccinated have now been vaccinated. The last count, without only about 3.9 or 4 million doses shared into two, that is about 2 million averagely Nigerians out of 200 million Nigerians that have been vaccinated. I got, of course, in the first job and this was in my second job in about a few weeks time for me to go for my second job. But there are so many Nigerians who are willing to have this vaccination and they don't have it. And what has the government been doing about it? What is happening in India? Don't forget that India is a serious challenge and India in the past has been able to provide us with some thousands of vaccines. And there is no place, most countries are not given out or selling vaccines now because they are also in gravity. We should see what is happening in Brazil and other parts of the world. So, Bex, let's see how it goes. The government, the authorities must have gotten their reasons, have their reason for the best. My issue of, my problem is that of social distancing, we don't observe social distancing. And a lot of people are not using their masks. In fact, people are practically discarded their masks. If you go everywhere, you go in and there, you have to have this anywhere, it's not a mask. And let's see how they are going to be able to take these and moving forward. All right, Miss, I want to do another story here. It's on the nation newspaper. It says 11-man panel to probe NPA. That's the Nigeria Port Authority activities under Balakusman. So, there's been lots of controversy regarding the story. Recall that she's first of all been suspended ever since last Thursday. And there's an APC caucus here seeking action saying there needs to be the involvement of an anti-graft agency like the EFCC. You know that 1.5 billion era was in trillion era was involved. And that there's allegation that she had reduced the amount that Dangute should pay for what he clears at the port. And they're basically saying that there's lots of irregularities with her policies, while as boss of the NPA. So, they're now calling for an investigation. Your thoughts on this, Miss, I want to. I don't think it was the APC caucus. I think it's the PDP. The PDP. Yes, it's the PDP, the minority party. But as it were, it's also within the range of allegations and an accused is deemed to be innocent until he or she must have proved committed offense. So, I think which, yes. So, for me, is still within the range of accusation. An 11-man panel has been tutors to look into that. And they've been narrated by the minister. Yes, the former or the suspended MP is also fighting back with certain information and stuff like that. I think everybody should wait for the outcome of that panel. My problem is that the way we do this set of panels at the end of it are nothing comes out of it. Don't forget the one of NDIC. I'm sure you still remember that we have practically gone to sleep with that. NDIC. Yes, yes, yes, NDIC, yes. They were practically going to sleep with that. Yes, the president also set up a forestry investigation panel to look into that. Couple with that of, you remember the drama that happened of your mic on the door or for your mic, put on your mic and painting and not painting. And at the end of it, what came out of it is like we are human drive. So there are several investigations in the past that we don't even into what we see is just the beginning. We don't get to see what happens at the end of it all. And whatever recommendations we made, we are not implemented. I hope this will be another one. The NPA is one of our cash cow. If you take away the oil, take away the IRS and that of customs revenue generation, NPA stands within the big five, six organizations that we get remittances from. So we shouldn't let this be like what it used to be. It should be a holistic investigation, devoid of any political learning and the rest of them. So make sure that whoever is copy it is able to book. All right. There's also a question I want to ask. Why do we keep going through the root of certain panels when we have the ICPC, we have the EFCC, we have forensic agencies that can do a proper audit of their funds and of their finances in the last couple of years? So why are we setting up a panel? Isn't that just wasting time? I agree to which is wasting time most often than not. Even after the panel must have submitted or you come to see that another subcommittee or panel will be set up to look into the recommendation of that panel. You know that's how we go in this country. So, but also a panel can do a job more quickly, I believe, than the graph agencies. Don't forget they have so many things on their table. They have so many things that they're investigating and that EFCC for one, I agree that EFCC has gone overboard. It's not focusing fully on the score mandate. They are engaging so many other things that personally I think is taking so much of their time where you go and pick some boys. You see that for them, where you are who boys, we go and pick hundreds and hundreds of them, procedures and the rest of them. They don't have the capacity and you just forget. Don't forget a few days ago, Inspector General Police, we drew several senior officers from EFCC. Those are part of the group that helped them in their investigation. So, they have the capacity to be able to run through all these ICPs in this. For me, it's neither here nor there. So, if there is a need to set up a panel that can equally wrap up this, for a panel, you can give a mandate and a time frame for them to finish. You can say within two weeks, within three weeks, within four weeks, and they get that wrap up. But if you're looking for graph agencies, they might continue investigation for a whole year or two and at the end of it, so that's where we stretch. But, ordinarily, that's what they're supposed to do. Even the police, don't forget that the police, it's also how they mandate. There's the fraud units within the Nigerian police that are supposed to handle issues like this. You remember the police have that mandate too and they could have been engaged. I don't know what they have been, whether they have been used or whether they have been utilized. But it's not just the ICPC, not just the EFCC. The police have that mandate and they have a special unit that investigates such. So, I believe that if you can be able to get them to be able to get this job done as quickly as possible, well, I'm going back. The panel has a mandate. We cannot give the police a time frame of two weeks to submit a report because the police would probably not be able to finish their investigation. But the panel has a mandate within which to be able to do this and that is what they do, 100% and they come up with it. Remember, if the apologists were dragging this so too long, if they had even the graft agencies, the actual graft agency or anti-graft agencies that have been set up, including the police, need a specific amount of time. They need to investigate for two months or for one month. I'm not sure how long it takes. Maybe because of their inadequacies or because that's the time that a proper investigation is required, a proper investigation will be carried out. Then how does a panel finish in two weeks and what do we hope to achieve from a panel in two weeks? If the graft agencies will take six months. I'm using two weeks as a time frame. I don't know the time frame that was given, but what I'm saying is that for the panel, that is the sole job they're going to do, 100%. If we put that time 100%. Why I'm asking is because... Obviously, you're going to get from EFCC or... Yeah, why I'm asking is because if we need to do a proper job, then, of course, these anti-graft agencies should be involved and not a panel that should be given a time frame or whatnot. Not a panel that we also trust has people that are certified and qualified to do a proper forensic investigation into a financial fraud, but we would see. It's another opportunity, I believe. Let's quickly come in there. It's just a short call. What I would rather stress about that is that, whether we can aim for some... EFCC1 is into that group panel. You understand what I'm trying to say? So, if we can embed people from EFCCC, from EFCCC, from EFCCC and other from the front unit of EFCCC, add them to the party, then they'll take a more good thing. But the members of this panel, I don't know who they are. I don't know that they are coming from my press talk. That's what it's very, very important to be thinking to their time frame on their mandate. Let's just see what happens. Okay, well, it's another opportunity for the government to show its stance with regards to corruption and fighting corruption. There has been Babacir Lawal. There has been the NDDC, like you mentioned. There's been numerous different opportunities. So, let's see how this one turns out and how it plays out. But thanks anyway for joining us this morning, Chris Wando. Thank you. Thanks for your time and for sharing your thoughts with us. Thank you very much. Do have a nice day. Absolutely. Stay with us this beautiful Tuesday morning. We, of course, have taken a short break. When we come back, we're sharing with you what happened on this day in history, the 11th of May, many years ago. We'll be back.