 ಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈಈ ests y nd All right so climate change  readily women 你 favour flodin was caused by heavy rainfall on climate change as well as the release of water from the Lakdodam in neighboring Cameroon. Now this flooding which affected Nigeria, Niger, Chad and the surrounding regions began in the early summer of 2022 and ended in October. So while Nigeria typically experiences seasonal flooding, this flood was the worst in the country since the 2012 flood. Now the raining season is upon us again and we have started to see the repercussions of flooding. So today we're asking how can we stop flooding in Nigeria. Now please let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to rate 1834663. You can also tweet at us at weisho afka1 or the hashtag weisho. So I don't know even know where to start this conversation from because honestly speaking first of all I am I am really tired of Nigeria. Like so Nigeria has so much but it is like for every time I see what Nigeria can be and I see what it is it just gives me mental mental mental health issues and let me both put it like that. You know because you know why I say this. I remember as a young undergraduate I think it was in 2012. So my grandfather lived in Benin right so we we made it a point of duty when whilst he was alive every year would go to Benin city every December will go spend Christmas with my grandfather. So when I was going to go to the university because we had done school all our lives in the north he insisted that never we can't school it because I was supposed to go to ABU's area. He said never we have to find a school in our like down south at least let's have a feel of our own people because we don't know anything we were northerners we just only come on holiday Christmas and we go back. So that was how he insisted we come to Benin. Every time was rainy season literally I put my hat in my mouth first of all I'm very irritated when I saw those millipede centipede and all those things. So first of all I already have a phobia when it comes to rain in Nigeria then in Benin in particular you will see houses like the the rain has gotten to the roof or maybe the window level of whatever this thing has been on for years for decades do you understand so I don't understand what what exactly is the role of government do you understand why can you not provide adequate infrastructure if you do not know how to handle the situation they are experts our kind of flood in Nigeria is not the type that is that it cannot be controlled do you understand because if you have the right infrastructure like the right planning and all of those things it can be channeled to a what's it called a whatever a river or something you can channel that water so every time I see this flood situation it thing just I cringe because I don't even know how to explain it and when we complain as citizens you expect us not to say anything we're attacking we're not attacking the government Nigeria's are not asking for too much give us light give us good roads network do you understand just give us proper infrastructure and light and we will blossom we don't need we don't need anything extra and that's why people are even clamoring that this palliative that they're talking about as regards fuel scarcity can we channel that palliative to infrastructure so that we solve all the problem once and for all don't give us any handouts so really I actually thought I was going to be calm today but honestly speaking what in the video again is it's really upsetting because these things are they are actually avoidable but let me hear your thoughts Jennifer honestly the same way you're tired is the same way I'm tired I remember when my friend used to live in Agungi and that place gets really flooded right so once it rains you really cannot leave your house and if you do it means that you would have to walk because if you use your car you would most likely stop in the middle of the road because the water was really this high and I remember we were coming back we went out when the rain started so by the time we were coming back we were using the boat by the time the boat driver saw the water he said he couldn't go anymore I guess we were worried even close to the house so we bought we had to beg the guy and beg and said we add extra money he said the extra money we want to give him is not going to fix his car if he goes into the water so I think the only reason why he was even able to enter that water that day was because he saw another car that was not as high as his yeah so he saw another car moving and he just following the path same path that the guy took and while we were doing that we found that there were some other cars in front that actually stopped and they were removing so we're actually very lucky that day because we didn't want to walk inside that water Agungi is dirty do you know what will enter your body what's the what's the name of that thing that goes with water is it itanus no no it's not even there's something that because it has happened to my sister before you have to cut the leg to to bring out the in the stuff I've had something like that I remember as a child inside the flooded water and then the next day I woke up with like soles and rashes all over my leg and my grandma then had to use some for you have traditional to actually treat it so since that time I've been very scared about about flooding and by the time we got to our house locally for my friend she stays on the second floor and not ground floor the people that were living on the ground floor I felt so bad for them because their house was basically just swimming their beds were swimming on the water it was a very it was a very sad thing it's very sad thing to see so when I started looking for when both of them looking for another apartment to move into we were actually thinking about okay we need a place that doesn't flood as much right so I mean even moving to a place that wasn't flooding as a goongi currently floods is way more expensive but we had to take that risk like you know what we would rather spend that money and move to this place than for us to move back but imagine people who actually cannot even afford it what do you think people who cannot afford I remember I think it was last year yeah was it last year or two years ago I wasn't legos at the time when it rained for like two days or it was even a day or something and because at Lagos island my friend was actually one of the cars that I had to call her are you okay she says she's not okay I'm like oh my god she said that it was so flooded that when the water actually came down and she finally took her car because they then they were advising people don't even drive the car like if you want to fix that car tell your mechanic to come there to fix it and for her she made a mistake of actually starting the car and trying to drive she was able to drive that car back home but she spent a lot of money because he knocked and then that was it so that was like extra extra extra expensive and planned expenses is like I mean it was even the same last year that we're talking about flooding in other states where people couldn't move people couldn't go anywhere and their their farmlands were flooded they couldn't harvest their crops they couldn't do anything so flooding leads to a lot of things and we've always been complaining I mean I've been hearing about bad drainage systems since I was a child and up until now it's still the same issue it's like nobody's listening let me quickly um open our phone lines right because I don't even think we need to go on this break please if you want to join the conversation call us on 0700 2500 77749 there's no need to go on it because it's a serious matter and that's the number to call remember turn off all the volume of your television tell us what the flooding situation is like in your area if you if you want to share and tell us if you think there's a solution that the government needs to hear what you feel the solution would be right and we're still discussing flooding let me come to you with it and I'll come back to you Mary with it what are your thoughts on this when you saw the video there is nothing new for starters we've been dealing like like Jennifer said we've been dealing with flooding issues um from time immemorial it's not a new thing the only difference I can say is that it continues to deteriorate it has done that year on year which is why we find ourselves where we are now and I I largely agree with everything that has been said so far but I I think that beyond the government as well we all have um we all have our responsibility the matter we have responsibilities because um we've seen so many stories of houses being built you know beyond their permissions we've seen land being appropriated that is you know in the pathway of where water should flow so that uti uti uti who hold your thought because all what you just said now is links to government but let me take paul i think for migbeta then i'll come back to you please don't  preparations owego ussia  göst Charit  satell  Revelation  nder  Woman ers  إ fantasy the natural water ways Like in Lagos here the area where I am living you discover that the natural water ways have been built upon and government gives certificate of occupancy to the owners of these buildings they inspect it before it is being built so that is the cost once you block that natural water when there is rain fall everywhere the floor dead And then when they are constructing roads, they don't construct goddess villages. If they do, they do just a very shallow one that a little thing we just cover it up. So I think it's the failure of government to execute the policies that will enhance that when there is rainfall, it will no result to this flooding and destruction of a purchase. Uti, let me come back to you. So yeah, like I said, Paul has touched on some of the things I was going to say. But the fact is, so I hear you in blaming government, I hear you that there's town planning, I hear all of these aspects and there's definitely failures there. I'm not saying there aren't failures there. But the fact is, I'll take a place like Agungi that Jennifer mentioned. These are places where you have a lot of reclaimed land, you have a lot of water on either side. I mean, the island is literally a strip of land in between two bodies of water. Let me put it that way. Water in front, water at the back. And if anywhere shouldn't have drainage problems, it is the island. But the failure of town planning as they say, people buy land, people build and nobody is looking at the impact. Is the government approving? Yes, I'm not saying that's not the government. Listen to what I'm saying. The government is approving. I'm going somewhere, right? So there is the impact. Now, the first problem is all these new areas that are being built. So for example, the island, right? Land is literally being developed in isolation. So you literally, the Agungi problem was caused by the development of a certain part of that area where waterways were blocked and, you know, waters are basically just stagnating on the road. Now, that is an existing problem, right? But let's talk about why the problem continues to proliferate. You come into an area and you are going to build. There is a level of greed that we must apportion to not just the government, but to the people. Because you come in as a developer, you want to build, you could choose to do what is right. It may cost you a bit more. It may cost you more, right? To then ensure that you put in proper drainage. I live in an estate that drainage was factored in to the body of water where the water was going to drain out. So when the surrounding area floods, my estate does not flood. Yes, there is groundwater because, again, like we said, reclaimed land. Water will come out from groundwater, will come up. But as soon as the rain falls and dry, it stops falling. The water very quickly settles. Now, that was done even in the face of government what, what, what happened. That was a developer that did that. So when we all say that every blame lays at the feet of government, I'll give another example. Another road very close to that same Agungi area. The first developer who built there did the road in front of their property with paving stones, right? Interlocking blocks as we call it. Next to the property was empty land, right? And then another property. Now that, in fact, that property came first. Let me, let me give the right trajectory. The first property was on the left-hand side of the road. They built and they did the road, let's say, from the junction up to where their property ended. Then there was empty land. The person who then built second, built on the far side of the empty land, right? So there was now empty land in the middle, right? Both of them on either side did paving stones. The one that built second built these paving stones almost close to where the first developer stopped. But there was still empty land in the middle. Two things happened. A big name brand petrol station came into that empty space and built the petrol station. Another developer built two houses next to that petrol station. Now in the course of those buildings, those two sets of people that were building, they are trucks completely wrecked. Hold on now, I'm going somewhere. Completely wrecked the paving stones on that road. So this was a perfectly smooth road where the first two developers had taken into consideration the work that they did. Completely wrecked the paving stones. Created almost like a deep gully in front of the petrol station. Now the developer that built the two houses in between the first build and the petrol station did what? Powered up the sand, raised it so high that the difference between the road he met and the road that he connected to, right? It was almost like building maybe one and a half foot speed bump in the middle of the road. Hold on now, I'm going to make the point this but I hear you. I'm trying to get you to understand that it is not enough to keep saying government government. That's what I'm saying for you. You see the problem I have, right? Everybody has a bit of madness in them. It is something that controls that madness. So if the government is not ready to stick to the laws, they have this laws, why are they not enforcing the law? owned పివిలు మానికాని నిమానిసికితాని ఆపిమాసిని హికఒలికి. కదటాయకకికికి. దానికనిసితి. విక౨౿కికికికి. గసతికాఒకి. ,పకమాయకికానిక.  otle తిబసితారంచినోిసిమారంచి పానినధారసిసీని. మంవిమాదఈత౿డికాటానࠤంచిసానిినినాచఅదా. మాటన౿హాటకనిసి. మానికానాటనిన౾సి. ǀi Ṛال, Ṛᵘċāeksgments Ṛ Ṛṝ Ṛ�ancy script షానోనిలా పారటుఽనం అల్ల్లా పాతానాన్ల్చాారంల్నిండార్క్క్ండిస్ండి గ్తాన్లానిలికూడాపానేతికంన్లు, నానిక్నాన్నిక్కమినిగా And I totally understand what Uti is saying in terms of we need to take responsibility as opposed to waiting for the government and government every time. So I've experienced flooding first hand or my mum has experienced it and within the past two or three months the landlord has raised the foundation of the house. So I mean it looks funny now because my mum is on the ground floor and it feels like you are descending to enter your house. But now that there's rain, you know, just put the cement and everything. So the water flows out and it's not coming in. So I think that's an individual taking responsibility of what we are the situation that we find ourselves in because we have to help ourselves if we keep waiting for government and government. I'm coming back to you. Don't worry. Or laugh at me, Laurie. Or laugh at me, Laurie. This matter, I don't know. You're alive. Go ahead, please. I said turn off the volume of whatever you're watching. Hello. Go ahead. How are you? Good evening. Please, you need to turn off the volume of whatever device it is that you're watching us from. So we don't get the feedback. It's difficult to hear. Okay. I don't know how to say this. Let me keep quiet. Jennifer. Let me keep quiet. Sorry, Jennifer. Before you just answer it, who are you? Yes, Uti. Who are you? The reason why I say you have to say it that way is so that we all know that. See, if we don't behave ourselves, we're all doing it ourselves. It's not enough to keep saying somebody else, somebody else, somebody else, somebody else. Do you get what I mean? Uti. If you leave us, you know say everybody get mad at their sister, their body. Everybody selfish, right? Let me tell you something. Since you say you want to be mad, I will tell you that I'm mad at. As a government, I will check you, I will check with you. That's my point. We don't, in this country, can you go in the UK now and you just drink this and throw it on the road like that? Or your dog, you wait now. There are fines. There are fines, right? You see somebody drinking in a car and you throw your pet bottle out. If somebody sends him a bill or there's a fine, you will not try it next time. When there are consequences for your action, that's my point. So I get what you are saying, right? I mean, you've seen sometimes where you've seen buildings where the fence is almost to the road, right? It's like you're taking up space where you're not supposed to take up space. And then you see that the government has actually put a mark sign there, like X, which means that you need to take this down and move it back, right? And then there are some places where you've also seen where people are trading on the road, right? So you've reduced the space. And the government has to come to enforce the laws. And yes, I get that even as citizens, we actually have to do our part because I remember when they were talking about flooding. I think it was, this is 2023, so I think it was 2021. When it showed in Surulere, there was serious flood and everything we saw was just waste. Thank you. And it was full. Let me take Ola, I think he's back from Ilaria, I believe. You're live, go ahead. Hello, Ola. Hello, good evening. Please go ahead quickly, you're live. How are you? We're good, go ahead. Armstrong? Hello. Go ahead. I'm watching your program now. This is my first time to tell you today. Thank you for calling. Thank you. Go ahead please. What I'm trying to say about the flood you're talking about. Are you here with me? We're here, we're here, we can hear you. Okay, God bless you. When you're talking about flooding Nigeria, you're always blaming government. When I was driving, coming from my office to my house, you can see what people are doing. Parking vehicles on the road, not only they don't say no. If you see what people are doing, when government are doing something, people are trying to explore everything. We are the one, who is going to face all these problems by ourselves. Thank you. We are the ones who are supposed to, this is the problem. Thank you Ola, sorry. Unfortunately we were running out of time. I want to say this, when rain falls, you see people carry their bin, right? They do it, they should do it. They carry their bin and they go and throw it in the, they believe the rainwater will take the bin away. So let me tell you something, I don't have any problem. I 100% agree with you Oti. We are the problem, we are the biggest problem when it comes to this flooding issue. But I'm saying, if we start to pay, right? If we start to pay for our actions, everybody will check themselves. You don't need anybody to tell you that if I catch you, do what is not right. Do you understand? Like there was a time you could not try certain things in this country. When you drink water and you throw it, you throw the padbots out the window. Loma from Abia State, let me hear your call quickly in one minute. Good evening. Good evening Loma. Yeah. See, I buy your idea, Ola. I buy your idea, Ola. You don't pay, don't pay. Whenever, before. When you drop anything on the ground, you pay final three thousand. This is the equipment, because we have so much in total. The writing to do, we allow people to don't know that we citizens are one of the factors behind what is happening in this. The equipment is not doing their work. When you turn on your feed and start doing the writing, people will do the writing. Thank you so much. Quickly, do we have messages? సారారోలాతీనిందల్తెబారి ప్న్మెమేసౘందార్ార్స్ maritime లాస్తీటేస్సింది విఘ preparedness�భఎత్ Mr, Storage is costs by Blockage of Drainage with products like plastic bottles, polyteen bags and etc.. Let me give you 1 minute opinions, Mr, let me give you 1 minute investment సినాసిఁపతెరో.  beginners  strate presa  saga ifa  Visa owego  Ashe that whilst I may not be able to control what anybody else can do, I can control what I can do, so in that sense, I stand on the fact that I make better decisions for myself, and I own up to my own shortcomings when I make mistakes so that even if somebody else doesn't, I cannot speak for myself, and I think that yes, if we all did that, I mean the nation would be better, forget this more, the politicians and the leaders are the 1% of the 1%, like there are 200 million Indians, how many people are in that house of senate, house of rep and all joined together, how many, so I think we can do better. so I completely agree with Utti, and I think as citizens we need to start doing better, and I mean the other day we talked about accountability, we need to start holding ourselves accountable and start doing the right thing, right? and stop waiting for governments to do some certain things, but I also urge the government to start putting fines so that when people are going against these things, then we need to find you for it, you have to pay somehow, people put in check. absolutely aunty. I think we can do better for ourselves by looking, moving towards sustainability, and the plastic has caused a lot of damage, both climate change, damage and drainage and everything, so I think we should start looking for, you know, yes, an alternative which is absolutely, the biodegradable, you know, substance, we can start to implement this, so that you know, my own government, let me beg you people, look at me very well, eyeball to eyeball, just give me the power, tell me that I have become your police on the road, we can all take responsibility, like empower citizens to be able to in report other citizens, you go see say change will happen, because it's simple, right? if I know that somebody is watching me, if I do something, I will be fine, definitely, a lot of things because this flooding that happens in Nigeria, I don't know about any other part of the world, it is human problem, it is us that is causing the flooding ourselves, so we can only do that when we start to take responsibility, like I agree with you, but I also believe that we need a tougher hand for us to be able to like, you know, do the right thing, on that note, thank you so much ladies, I'm apologizing in case I shouted too much, the matter is just about to end thank you thank you Jennifer, thank you Mary, now before we go and show you, follow us across all our social media handles that waste your Africa, you can interact with us further, drop a comment and more importantly follow all our engagements on social media, like share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow now if you missed our quote for today here it is again, we cannot prevent hurricane or earthquakes, floods or volcanic eruption but we can ensure that both people and communities are better prepared and more resilient, this is for climates where they have problem, we can control it, just act responsible as a citizen, see you guys tomorrow at 8pm so bring another great conversation to your screen